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Old October 2nd, 2012, 03:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Alright so with some research it seems the Geniatech ATV1200 and 1600 are in production and being Distributed to all the major online sellers but it seems these are also being renamed and rebranded little by little. So far ive found about 3 or 4 others with same specs all coming soon, but the big question is when. Ive emailed two companies trying to find information on a possible date when a consumer will be able to purchase one but so far nothing. Has anyone here found any information?
Im pretty sure everyone here is wanting a dual core box with 1gb of ram to be able to play there movies/Tv well and not have to deal with lag.

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what re-branded boxes you have found
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Old October 3rd, 2012, 12:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Homix HX-1200
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and the third one is the Giayee Android IPTV BOX link: http://www.giayee.com/product/android-tv.html
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and the third one is the Giayee Android IPTV BOX link: Giayee Android IPTV BOX - RK3066 dual-core Cortex A9 1.6GHz, built-in camera and MIC, SKYPE Video call, Android 4.0

That Giayee box looks the same as this one:
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But I will wait for the actual A1200 / A1600 since I need component / composite connections.
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Yeah but the question is how long do we have to wait, i want to get a Android TV box in the next month.
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i see one being sold at $225, but it ships from Australia and the shipping cost around $81 to $90 to US
Geniatech Enjoy TV Box ATV1200 - Clearance
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i see one being sold at $225, but it ships from Australia and the shipping cost around $81 to $90 to US
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Very very nice find, too bad its stupid overpriced.
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Here it is!

NEW! Dual Core Android TV Box AMLogic-MX Cortex 9, 1GB RAM - XBMC 1080p
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the owner of ovalelephant is a really good guy,
u can trust him %110 as a seller!
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u can trust him %110 as a seller!
Yup i saw this on there and snagged one of the last preorders that ship on november 9th.
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Yup i saw this on there and snagged one of the last preorders that ship on november 9th.
great, let us know ur experience on the box when it arrives.
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great, let us know ur experience on the box when it arrives.
Ill be making a video, only problem right now is i can't find if the box from oval elephant comes with a remote prepackaged or its an extra. He has some listed as options to buy but they are out of stock, but i should have one from somewhere by the delivery date it just might not be the one from oval elephant.
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Would this box be a better option than The G-box Midnight?

G Box "Midnight" Android TV Box Full XBMC Android Internet Web Mini PC | eBay

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Would this box be a better option than The G-box Midnight?

G Box "Midnight" Android TV Box Full XBMC Android Internet Web Mini PC | eBay

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the ATV1200 is definitely better then the G-BOX.
Spec wize, the ATV1200 has a Dual-Core while the G-BOX is single-core...
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Another Dual Core STB

MINIX – NEO X5
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Alright i was planning on having a review probably up today or tomorrow, but as it turns out. Ovalelephant.com is having some troubles. It says all the orders were delayed due to weather, and he hasnt given an updated ship date yet. Also no emails are being responded to right now, they are rumors going around about the store/site owner saying things have happened to him but im not going to jump to conclusions yet. So hopefully ill get a response and be able to tell you how soon you guys can expect a review.
Since he is in NC and not too far from the coast hopefully hes okay, he might still be out of power so hopefully hes okay.

EDIT: Ovalelephant has sent out an email, pretty much saying the manufactors lied on shipping date and they now have the 25th as their shipping date.
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dual core google tv box,a good product,will be popular
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MINIX NEO X5
Looks interesting, but I don't see any prices or ordering information.
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Looks interesting, but I don't see any prices or ordering information.
Probably wont be around for a couple of months and by that time itll be a better idea just to wait for the ouya.
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Looks interesting, but I don't see any prices or ordering information.
For example:

Minix Neo x5 Android 4 0 Dual Core Bluetooth TV Player w Wi Fi 1GB RAM 16GB ROM | eBay

Qoo10-Global(New Gmarket) - Computer / Laptop - MINIX Neo X5 2x CPU ...

http://www.**********.com/item/NEO-X5-RK3066-Dual-Core-Cortex-A9-TV-Box-1GB-RAM-16GB-ROM--w--Wi-Fi---TF-Slot-XBMC-3G-Dongle-RJ45-Slot-312604.html
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152$ Quite expensive =/
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152$ Quite expensive =/
110usd on third link (g e e k b u y i n g)
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That minix neo looks really good. The first AVAILABLE product I've seen in a BOX FORM FACTOR (all others are those annoying sticks) with ETHERNET that has the dual core chip.

Question:
The ATV1200 and ATV1600 seems to indicate there is an internal slot for a mobile drive. But the description says, for both: "USB: Support 4 x external USB HOST and 1 x internal USB"

Am I correct in saying that NEITHER of these boxes support any sort of SATA connectivity?
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I'm interested in the ATV1200, but it doesn't seem to be available (yet) anywhere for a reasonable price. I came across this the other day:

streamgadgets . com (sorry, the forum won't let me post a link)

Anybody know anything about this device? I can't seem to find any reviews or even mentions of it.
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I'm interested in the ATV1200, but it doesn't seem to be available (yet) anywhere for a reasonable price. I came across this the other day:

streamgadgets . com (sorry, the forum won't let me post a link)

Anybody know anything about this device? I can't seem to find any reviews or even mentions of it.
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I'm interested in the ATV1200, but it doesn't seem to be available (yet) anywhere for a reasonable price. I came across this the other day:

streamgadgets . com (sorry, the forum won't let me post a link)

Anybody know anything about this device? I can't seem to find any reviews or even mentions of it.
I ordered mine from Ovalelephant.com, what happened was the manufactors gave him a false ship date. They have done this for all the other online shops too so you wont see it around. Currently the ship date is Nov. 25th, so we will see. Hopefully the Manufactor will have no other delays.
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Hey guys check this out... Released today...

Edit: Can't post links.

But, it's on Oval Elephant, and it's a new "Dual Core Android TV Box, AmLogic MX"...


There's also a PC Stick version, which I'm excited to see feedback for.
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Hey guys check this out... Released today...

Edit: Can't post links.

But, it's on Oval Elephant, and it's a new "Dual Core Android TV Box, AmLogic MX"...


There's also a PC Stick version, which I'm excited to see feedback for.
Very Interesting, and cheaper. I am thinking about canceling my ATV1200 for the MINIX – NEO X5.
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I ordered mine from Ovalelephant.com, what happened was the manufactors gave him a false ship date. They have done this for all the other online shops too so you wont see it around. Currently the ship date is Nov. 25th, so we will see. Hopefully the Manufactor will have no other delays.
Ordered from Oval also after 2 weeks told wont ship, offered stick type "bold bull" in dual core, initially thought this might work on other tv but no remote no additional audio out.

Guess i'll try it if That makes it here
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I ordered a MK808 off of Amazon for ~$60 shipped. Of course, it's coming from China, so I won't get it until mid-Dec/Jan. If you want it faster, it will cost ~$75.
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Ordered from Oval also after 2 weeks told wont ship, offered stick type "bold bull" in dual core, initially thought this might work on other tv but no remote no additional audio out.

Guess i'll try it if That makes it here
I requested a refund from Oval elephant as he stated i could through the mass email he sent. Its been about 1 week and no refund and no reply to any of my emails. I have sent him around 12 emails so im pretty frustrated but good news is i orded the minix neo x5 and it ARRIVED to day free shipping from ********** it only took 5 days from China.
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can you make a review with the neo x5?
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I requested a refund from Oval elephant as he stated i could through the mass email he sent. Its been about 1 week and no refund and no reply to any of my emails. I have sent him around 12 emails so im pretty frustrated but good news is i orded the minix neo x5 and it ARRIVED to day free shipping from ********** it only took 5 days from China.
Here is Oval Elephant's contact info (thanks to google cache):
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Oval Elephant
2724 Chilton Pl
Raleigh, NC
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+1919.727.6825 (OVAL)

See if that is of any help. If you live near NC, you could take a drive.

Being that they are in the US, I would suggest contacting the Better-Business-Bureau.
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couple of other sites selling atv1200,

Wholesale Dual Core Android 4.1 TV Box - 1080p, 4GB Built-in Storage, WiFi, Free shipping, $147.35-168.0/Piece | DHgate

Mygica ATV1200 Android 4.1 Dual Core Cortex A9 Geniatech google TV Box better than MK808 mini pc
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Just ordered my ATV1200 in the UK for 85.. pre-order due for dispatch around 16th Jan... just hope it lives up to expectations!

I really dont like the look of the sticks. and can only imagine that wifi is fairly poor on them.. spec wise, they tick the boxes, just hope they perform.
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Looks like the ATV1200 is more available now, and looks like some even comes with Jelly Bean.
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Just to throw this into the mix... What about a quad core stick?

Link: GK802
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Specs from the link...

Operating System: Android 4.0
Chipset: Freescale i.MX6 Quad Core Cortex-A9
Processor Frequency: 1.2 GHz
GPU: Vivante GC2000, Quad core
Memory: DDRIII 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Wi-Fi: 802.11b/g/n
Bluetooth: Bluetooth v4.0
Memory Card Type: TF Card
Max Extended Capacity: 32GB
Output Resolution: 1080P
3D: Supported
HDMI: 1.3 and 1.4
USB: USB 2.0 + Micro USB
Interfaces: 1 x USB 2.0 ports, 1 x Micro USB port, 1 x TF card slot
Android Market Download: Yes
Other Features: Supports external USB camera and microphone

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See if that is of any help. If you live near NC, you could take a drive.

Being that they are in the US, I would suggest contacting the Better-Business-Bureau.

Filed a Police report in January after a month of trying to get refund with no refund and no equipment. Posted to Amazon store about this guy, also sent mail to J1nx (OE now no longer sells there) and filed complaint with Paypal (I waited too long for Paypal dispute). Police reportFiled in NC-- Police report number is P13004658 if there is anyone else out there who had their money stolen from them by this Chandler Gray guy, and want to jump into the frey.
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