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Old September 29th, 2010, 07:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Why the Archos 70 and 101 are the "best" deals this year

Pricing rumors from At&t and also VZW rep chatter suggests the total cost for these devices will be around $1,000 after two years of use. Also, though the price point of the sub $200 devices is compelling, you could get the 8gb 7" for $275 and the 10" for $333. In regards to the Tab and other higher end options looming, the Archos tabs

Besides an arm 8 1ghz chipset, Froyo, Flash 10, 8gb/16gb built-in, capacitive display and about one third the price of the Tab:

Other confirmed features (this list is for the 10")

Android on TV
Basically, this is what you see on your product screen, but ten times bigger. With its TV output, the ARCHOS 101 internet tablet displays every Android***8482; sceen on your wide screen TV*. You can then browse your files or the Internet from your couch. And guess how immersed in your 3D games you could be using the device as a steering-wheel! This is just staggering!

Tethering (Using your portable phone as a modem)
Want to be connected anywhere? Just plug your mobile phone equipped with 3.5 G & Bluetooth; technology, simply pair it up to your ARCHOS 101 internet tablet via Bluetooth; or even via USB cable. This will give you easy access to Internet directly on your device anytime and anywhere. There***8217;s no need to pay an extra fee when you already have a data service plan***.

Home Streaming from your PC
The ARCHOS 101 internet tablet has Samba and UPnP protocols: this means that you play your movies, videos, and photos on your ARCHOS, but these files are really located on your computer in another room. You don;t need to store everything on your ARCHOS to enjoy viewing it on your ARCHOS! Your files fly through the air over WiFi. The ARCHOS 101 internet tablet is the small and convenient portable computer that you;ve always dreamed about.

Multiple connections
With a built-in webcam (to stay in touch with your friends and family thanks to live video chat), an ultra-powerfull processor, WiFi connectivity, and multiple connections (USB Host/Slave, Micro SDHC, HDMI output, the ARCHOS 101 internet tablet has everything your PC has. It is very easy to connect an external keyboard or a mouse (ARCHOS external wireless keyboard with touch pad sold separately). For Email, you be delighted to finally have the choice between a full-sized on-screen keyboard and an external one.

HDMI video output
Via the HDMI connection (HDMI cable sold separately), enjoy the Android; interface on your TV screen. You will discover a new way to play games on TV, your device becomes your gamepad. In addition, whether you are sharing your photos and videos to a room full of people on a TV, you can show high definition images that are so crisp, an individual pixel will be impossible to see!

Easy transfer
There is a full-sized USB connector on the side of the device to let you transfer all your multimedia content. There is also a USB host connector to directly transfer your files without using a PC.

No proprietary connectors (A first for Archos)


No tablet device can touch the combination of features and price point. The full usb host feature is a huge advantage. Thumbdrives, flash reader or protable hardrives can be used.

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Pricing rumors from At&t and also VZW rep chatter suggests the total cost for these devices will be around $1,000 after two years of use. Also, though the price point of the sub $200 devices is compelling, you could get the 8gb 7" for $275 and the 10" for $333. In regards to the Tab and other higher end options looming, the Archos tabs


Tethering (Using your portable phone as a modem)
Want to be connected anywhere? Just plug your mobile phone equipped with 3.5 G & Bluetooth; technology, simply pair it up to your ARCHOS 101 internet tablet via Bluetooth; or even via USB cable. This will give you easy access to Internet directly on your device anytime and anywhere. There***8217;s no need to pay an extra fee when you already have a data service plan***.
Besides all this sounding like a commercial for ARCHOS. You still cant do ARCHOS tablet vs a Tablet that has built in cellular. Apples n Oranges. What if i require cellular on my tablet? my option is to tether right?
So now i have my $200 EVO, My $300 ARCHOS and my $70 Sprint plan x 24 = $1540. That $1000 2 years doesn't sound so bad vs $2040 by having 2 devices.
Personally i like the Archos 101 and will be getting one, but you still have to be realistic on what you can compare each tablet to.
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yes they look good and im very interested in one but so far only JR have them advertised for pre order and they do not deliver to australia
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Besides all this sounding like a commercial for ARCHOS. You still cant do ARCHOS tablet vs a Tablet that has built in cellular. Apples n Oranges. What if i require cellular on my tablet? my option is to tether right?
So now i have my $200 EVO, My $300 ARCHOS and my $70 Sprint plan x 24 = $1540. That $1000 2 years doesn't sound so bad vs $2040 by having 2 devices.
Personally i like the Archos 101 and will be getting one, but you still have to be realistic on what you can compare each tablet to.
They were taken from the Archos feature page, so kind of are a commercial.

I actually grew to hate Archos due to the Euro sound cap law that Archos adheres to. The features are facts, though. US Tab's have built-in 3G, but no phone function (euros versions do). Why pay data for two devices? My Incredible covers that and I can USB tether with it (carry my phone around anyways, so not an extra thing to carry).

Archos 101 and my Incredible are a far cheaper option than Archos 101 and Galaxy Tab from VZW. Apparently data will either be $20 or $30 a month and the actual two year contratc price depends on if $20 or $30- either way they will get their $1,000

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I wonder if Samsung and the carriers will be pressured by Archos and other competition this fall and winter and drop theri prices? Nah.
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US Tab's have built-in 3G, but no phone function (euros versions do).
Unfortunately Rushmore this might be a bit of a generalization. Most of the "U.S. tabs" that you reference are actually built in the far east At this time we know that the Samsung tab will be tied to U.S. cellular carriers. Dell's tablets are being sold through AT&T. Mostly what we know of the Motorola tab are, at this time, rumors. Nearly nothing has been heard yet regarding the Toshiba tablet. Velocity Micro will sell the Cruz tablet through it's retail network.

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Why pay data for two devices? My Incredible covers that and I can USB tether with it (carry my phone around anyways, so not an extra thing to carry).
Tethering can be hit-or-miss for some smartphones. Some carriers such as Verizon don't always support this natively. To get this to work on some Smartphones, you may need to root the phone and add third party app's. To some this might not be their "cup of tea". Then, of course, you always have the risk that if you push too much data through the phone the carrier might get suspicious and start scrutinizing your monthly usage.

I agree that tethering is very possible to do... It just may not be the optimal choice for everyone.
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Unfortunately Rushmore this might be a bit of a generalization. Most of the "U.S. tabs" that you reference are actually built in the far east At this time we know that the Samsung tab will be tied to U.S. cellular carriers. Dell's tablets are being sold through AT&T. Mostly what we know of the Motorola tab are, at this time, rumors. Nearly nothing has been heard yet regarding the Toshiba tablet. Velocity Micro will sell the Cruz tablet through it's retail network.



Tethering can be hit-or-miss for some smartphones. Some carriers such as Verizon don't always support this natively. To get this to work on some Smartphones, you may need to root the phone and add third party app's. To some this might not be their "cup of tea". Then, of course, you always have the risk that if you push too much data through the phone the carrier might get suspicious and start scrutinizing your monthly usage.

I agree that tethering is very possible to do... It just may not be the optimal choice for everyone.

I am referring to US "Tab's" (Galaxy Tabs). I went plural, since there is the 2gb carrier version and supposed to be 16gb and 32gb wifi only non-carrier versions.
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I would still want to see someone who has 'hand's on' experience (especially tethering with a Verizon Smartphone, e.g. Droid) with one before I invested, although I am very interested in the 101.
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I would still want to see someone who has 'hand's on' experience (especially tethering with a Verizon Smartphone, e.g. Droid) with one before I invested, although I am very interested in the 101.
I will hopefully be that person in the near future as I've had a pre-order in with J&R since 9/20... and I already have my ZT-180 Tablets tethered to my AdHoc tethering Moto Droids running 2.2...

I should say rushmore and I will probably race for that privelidge as we both seem to be spending equal time over watching the Archosforum also
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all I want to know is WHEN
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It's looking more and more like it will be sometime mid to late November, as there has been absolutely zero news regarding the Gen8 Archos tablets(the good ones anyway) in the past 3 weeks, all I know is that is not a good sign for an impending release.
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I will hopefully be that person in the near future as I've had a pre-order in with J&R since 9/20... and I already have my ZT-180 Tablets tethered to my AdHoc tethering Moto Droids running 2.2...

I should say rushmore and I will probably race for that privelidge as we both seem to be spending equal time over watching the Archosforum also
Ditto, but when I try to point some things out, some of the (perhaps) Archos fanboys get up in arms. I mean no harm

Unless a person needs the 3G or GPS, the Archos 7" and 10" tablets are half the price, so seem simple the simple choice.

irishpride, considering not one Archos device has been shown with 2.2 yet, I would say November seems more likely than October.
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Ditto, but when I try to point some things out, some of the (perhaps) Archos fanboys get up in arms. I mean no harm

Unless a person needs the 3G or GPS, the Archos 7" and 10" tablets are half the price, so seem simple the simple choice.

irishpride, considering not one Archos device has been shown with 2.2 yet, I would say November seems more likely than October.
It doesn't surprise me that folks over there are Archos FanBoys as it is The Archos Fan Site but boy they aren't really so friendly to newbies making comments over there... they seem to think if you have low post count you couldn't possibly know anything about Android, Archos, or anything related...

I had been fully expecting to receive the 101 with 2.1u1 loaded as all I had initially read said (upgradeable to 2.2) but since a lot of places mention 2.2 only so you might be right that they decided to wait till they were ready with 2.2 and thus a longer wait...
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I'm definitely getting the 70 with the 250GB hard drive. My current Archos is slow and has a resistive touchscreen making it a bit frustrating to use for anything other than music. The 70 has a much better processor, OS and screen. I'm pretty pumped.
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First post... pop

Thinking hard about a 70, and the teather potential is even more appealing. I have to think that after the supply catches up (and the holidays are past) that we're likely to see a price drop. At 275 I'm excited, at 215... I'll take two.
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I forgive them for all the release date/shipping BS I had to go though to get my 7o. I haven't looked back since getting mine.

Also, the 7o + Google Reader = Video Podcasting EPIC WIN!
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Thinking hard about a 70, and the teather potential is even more appealing. I have to think that after the supply catches up (and the holidays are past) that we're likely to see a price drop. At 275 I'm excited, at 215... I'll take two.

Price drop may not happen as soon as you think. The device is so hot that Tigerdirect offers it $25 above sug. retail.

Nothing on the market now or in the next 6 months will touch the Archos 70/101 features or price point.

I'm going to CES again this year. I will report back what I find.
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Any update on tethering capability for those of you who have an Archos 101 in hand? I tether my BB Torch to my laptop and it works well, would really like to do this when I get my hands on a 101 as well.
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I use Wireless tether (rooted) on my EVO and simply turn on wifi on the Archos to tether like if I was connecting to my home internet via wifi. : shrugs:
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I connect my 101 to my desire using the wifi hotspot function on the desire.
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where are you guys getting the 101? I can't find it anywhere.
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