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Old May 21st, 2011, 02:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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USING DT’s A2SD WITH CM7 2.3.4 - How to install and have it working
ONE NOTE FIRST: After this DO NOT PRESS the “MOVE TO SD” button within CM7.
Most of this will seem same as usual – parts are NOT, so real thru carefully as I had to make some very small changes

1. Back up entire SD Card.
2. I erased the SD before starting, no real reasoning.
3. Boot to ClockWork Recovery

IN CWR:
a. Wipe Data/Factory Reset
b. Wipe Cache Partition
c. Goto Mounts and Storage
1. Format Boot
2. Format System
3. Format Data
4. Format Cache
5. Format SD Card
d. Back
e. Go to Advanced
1. Wipe Dalvik Cache
2. Partition SD Card
(I put 512 for apps, and 32 for Swap – Remember Swap is supported now, where we put 0 with Icarus)

OK. HERE IS THE TRICKY PART. Since you formatted the card WITH CWR, now you do not have the zips you need on it.

Pull the battery.

Remove the SD, Put into the PC, and put on:
1. CM7 (Signed zip)
2. Gapps
3. Update Kernel (For CPU back to 748 if desired)
4. DT’s A2SD-SIGNED.ZIP

Card back into the phone.

I held volume up, Answer, Power - THEN LET THE BATTERY FALL INTO PLACE.

OK, there is a bit easier way, I will put in notes in the end
BUT for now, you go right back to CWR

Flash Zips IN THIS ORDER:
1. CM7
2. GAPPS
3. KERNEL FIX
THAT’S IT FOR NOW

BOOT (Remember you still have the EXT partition (Now its an EXT3 even 4 is supported, AND you have 32 MB SWAP)

Allow it to go thru the setup putting on GAPPS, put on your favorite apps, etc. (All internal NOT ON SD)

NOW. The reason that was done first – OFTEN – IF a2sd is flashed FIRST, some of the GAPPS and your apps have trouble going to the card and leaving the symbolic link.

OK --- NOW, Reboot, make sure all is good.

BOOT TO CWR:
Pick Zip from SD, and flash DT’s a2sd.

It only takes 3 seconds or so, it WILL MOVE ALL YOUR APPS TO THE SD!!

Reboot....There you have it.

Notes:
1. EVEN the apps that were UNSUCCESSFUL installing when I put on a2sd 1st WERE successful when I did it this way, get them on there then just moved over.

2. Seems Formatting the card In CWR helps out, do that. Problem, it does remove all the zips you need. Getting them back on is a pain I know, like I said, I hold the phone upside down batter almost in, hold the buttons, then drop it in, so it is SURE to go to recovery after you have the zips on. If you know an easier way, let me know, I guess you could put it, go into bootloader and put them on, but I have little experience w/ bootloader? Oh well.

3. YOU CAN. Go up to where you “Partition the card” 1st, and wait to do that when you flash DT’s A2SD, BUT, nothing will mess with the EXT part, unless you use linux.

OK....Have fun. PLEASE Help me out if I made any mistakes. This is my first post as a “Guide”, so forgive mistakes.

Write me with ANY ISSUES.

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You will not BELIEVE how much more memory this saves than just the "MOVE TO SD" button, do NOT push that btw...

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2 Questions.

1. Does DT's A2SD automatically move the Dalvik cache to the sd card as well or are there extra steps for that?

2. Am I understanding correctly that this method will actually format the card and get rid of the original partition I still have from when I installed A2SD with Icarus? I was going to try your Linux method but haven't gotten around to it yet and I do like A2SD better than Apps2SD or whatever it's called.

OK, 3 questions. I have a spare sd card or two. I should be able to pre-format my larger card with everything I need, put in my smaller card, wipe everything and then swap to my larger card to flash CM7, gapps, ect instead of having to hook up the phone, dl and do all that battery dropping stuff, right? I dunno. Somethings wrong with this line of thinking but I'm not sure what it is. Am I missing something?

Edit: I see. I didn't read the instructions very well. I would still have to remove the card, hence having to remove the battery and drop back into place. Is it really necessary to hold power, volume and call buttons while dropping the battery in? Might it work out ok if I just put the battery in and then quickly press the three necessary buttons?
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2 Questions.

1. Does DT's A2SD automatically move the Dalvik cache to the sd card as well or are there extra steps for that?

2. Am I understanding correctly that this method will actually format the card and get rid of the original partition I still have from when I installed A2SD with Icarus? I was going to try your Linux method but haven't gotten around to it yet and I do like A2SD better than Apps2SD or whatever it's called.

OK, 3 questions. I have a spare sd card or two. I should be able to pre-format my larger card with everything I need, put in my smaller card, wipe everything and then swap to my larger card to flash CM7, gapps, ect instead of having to hook up the phone, dl and do all that battery dropping stuff, right? I dunno. Somethings wrong with this line of thinking but I'm not sure what it is. Am I missing something?

Edit: I see. I didn't read the instructions very well. I would still have to remove the card, hence having to remove the battery and drop back into place. Is it really necessary to hold power, volume and call buttons while dropping the battery in? Might it work out ok if I just put the battery in and then quickly press the three necessary buttons?
1. NO by default it stays internal. You just go to terminal and type " a2sd cachesd " (w/0 quotes) and it moves it over.

2. NO, not really, you would need to go into a linux OS to get rid of the EXT. you could "Probably keep" the icarus type partition. Remember this is for with CM7. Personally, I would start fresh, go to linux Ubuntu or something, use gparted, make 1 big fat32 partition, then format and partition within clockwork just to be safe that it's totally clean from the start

3. NO your right, I did that before, I had the zips on another SD, put it in flashed and switched, had DT a2sd on the "Final" card and used it after all was cool. I don't know I just got used to using that method, it's silly I know, but it really works, switching cards back/forth is sometimes messy as when you flash CM7 / kernal update/gapps/etc. it will put stuff on the card, so you want to keep that card as the final. Your right though, you could probably do it that way no prob. Just have the ext3 part. and swap part. on the "Final card"

YES, it is possible if you put in the battery and real fast press the buttons, I just do that so that the instant it has power, it sees the buttons pressed, but I did a couple times toss in the battery and hurry and hit the buttons.

Also, yea your right, you have to switch the cards anyway, so might as well do it that way.

OK, keep me posted, I will do what I can, mine is running like a charm for a bit now, so NO problems. When your done, just go to terminal type " a2sd check " and read thru, you'll see any problems. OR if you type a2sd help, it will tell you all the commands, including those about moving the Dalvik....

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Do you have a link to this a2sd zip download?
How is DT's a2sd different from the a2sd that is already in the CM7 05142011 for the ascend?
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How is DT's a2sd different from the a2sd that is already in the CM7 05142011 for the ascend?

IF a2sd is flashed FIRST, some of the GAPPS and your apps have trouble going to the card.
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How is DT's a2sd different from the a2sd that is already in the CM7 05142011 for the ascend?
http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta02-signed.zip


here ya go....
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1. NO by default it stays internal. You just go to terminal and type " a2sd cachesd " (w/0 quotes) and it moves it over.

2. NO, not really, you would need to go into a linux OS to get rid of the EXT. you could "Probably keep" the icarus type partition. Remember this is for with CM7. Personally, I would start fresh, go to linux Ubuntu or something, use gparted, make 1 big fat32 partition, then format and partition within clockwork just to be safe that it's totally clean from the start

3. NO your right, I did that before, I had the zips on another SD, put it in flashed and switched, had DT a2sd on the "Final" card and used it after all was cool. I don't know I just got used to using that method, it's silly I know, but it really works, switching cards back/forth is sometimes messy as when you flash CM7 / kernal update/gapps/etc. it will put stuff on the card, so you want to keep that card as the final. Your right though, you could probably do it that way no prob. Just have the ext3 part. and swap part. on the "Final card"

YES, it is possible if you put in the battery and real fast press the buttons, I just do that so that the instant it has power, it sees the buttons pressed, but I did a couple times toss in the battery and hurry and hit the buttons.

Also, yea your right, you have to switch the cards anyway, so might as well do it that way.

OK, keep me posted, I will do what I can, mine is running like a charm for a bit now, so NO problems. When your done, just go to terminal type " a2sd check " and read thru, you'll see any problems. OR if you type a2sd help, it will tell you all the commands, including those about moving the Dalvik....

GOOD LUCK...Jeff
Thank you, Jeff. It will probably be a while before I get around to it, could be weeks or it could be two or three hours from now if I can't sleep or something. I try not to second guess myself too much but sincerely, thank you for posting this information.
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What version of CW Recovery is required?
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COOL....Yea, if it's running fine, no hurry, BUT, think ahead a little, in terms of how much memory you have. I wouldn't wait till you have like 10MB then do it...lol....just go a little early to save yourself the space.

My rule of thumb for now? I had the Dalvik on the card for a long time, NO ISSUES, but I had to reinstall everyting due to another issue. SO this time, I left the Dalvik Internal.

My rule of thumb: When I drop below 100MB free, I'll move it over, that will free up darn near 100 itself (could be anywhere from 50-100 or so).

Anyway, GLAD IT HELPED.....(hit the "thanks"if you like...LOL...gotta take what you can get right?)...LOL.
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When you do decide to go for it, feel free to PM or post, whatever, if you want my email or something just PM me.

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We all really have to hand it to Dark Tremor!!

This truly a great piece of code! To have survived all the upgrades, changes, etc. and it is STILL the best of the bunch.

Tons of copycats on the market, again, still the best.

NOW, I mean the thing was written way back. Then put on Icarus, ok, great. BUT, now we are up to CM7-Gingerbread

IT STILL IS 10 Times better than the "Move to SD" Android has on their system.

So, I just had to take a second and give credit where credit is due.

Thanks DT!!!!
AWESOME PIECE OF CODE!! PROBABLY MY #1, probably alot of peoples #1. so again, thanks and best of luck in the future.....look forward to some good things...

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Ok just tossing in kudos here. I had cm7 already flashed when I installed dta2sd. All I did was format my card in cwm2158 and partition using your numbers. Rebooted and put a2sd.zip on SD.

Reboot cement and selected "install zip from sd"

After reboot I ran the same commands as for Icarus. All works perfect. Thanks jeff!
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Ok just tossing in kudos here. I had cm7 already flashed when I installed dta2sd. All I did was format my card in cwm2158 and partition using your numbers. Rebooted and put a2sd.zip on SD.

Reboot cement and selected "install zip from sd"

After reboot I ran the same commands as for Icarus. All works perfect. Thanks jeff!
Awesome, First - Thank you for "tossing the kudos". It really is amazing how well it works (Especially compared to using the 2.3.4 "Move to SD"), DT's opens up double what you get from doing it thru the ROM. AMAZING.

DT really does have a GREAT piece of code on his hands there.

I would have never guessed that it would still work up in CM7 until I started playing around with it, since I was so Memory dry.

Anyway, AWESOME, I'm stoked it worked to well for you.
Let me know:
DId you move the Dalvik yet. I had ZERO problems with that, didn't even notice a blink of speed difference. (ALso I do have that SD speed increase thing from CM6 on there, not sure if that makes a diff, it should)

OK buddy. Take care, keep me posted..
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But i don't get it; can't you already move your apps to the SD? or is it much better to do the process in your thread?
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But i don't get it; can't you already move your apps to the SD? or is it much better to do the process in your thread?
Here is the difference. With the stock move you can only move some apps but with DT's a2sd it moves all apps to the sd card, even the one that "can't be moved" and you can move you dalvik cache as well freeing up even more memory. It's the way that he wrote the code, everything thinks it's on the phone but it's really on the sd card.
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FYI, I don't see the need to hold buttons while trying to drop in the battery as well, you almost need three hands for that. I've never had an issue with inserting the battery and having the phone power on automatically, provided you wait for a good 10 seconds or so after removing it. Drop it in, hold Send+Vol Up, then press Power, should boot into Recovery as usual.
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FYI, I don't see the need to hold buttons while trying to drop in the battery as well, you almost need three hands for that. I've never had an issue with inserting the battery and having the phone power on automatically, provided you wait for a good 10 seconds or so after removing it. Drop it in, hold Send+Vol Up, then press Power, should boot into Recovery as usual.
That's good. I for some reason, the instant I put in the battery, it goes to the Huawei screen. If I hold the buttons ahead of time, it instantly see's that button thing when it get's power.

I have a few times tried to put the battery in first and hurry and press, but I had 2-3 seconds and was successful. I just wrote that, because it's a guarantee to work that's all.

LOL, three hands....I've done it so much before when "Bricked" to enable the dload folder for back to stock, I have it down pat....

But, heck yea, try and if you don't get the buttons in time, do that.

Thanks for pointing out though...
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OKay so im understanding a little but not fully;
1.How will this process work if you formated the SD memory card? Because this will delete apps, i think?
2.Also i figured out somethings on my phone by pressing the "Move to SD" button in manage applications, that it will not allow you to put it as a widget (for an example, youtube). will this app, APPs2SD do that?
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Do me a favor, I saw your PM with these exact questions, will you please post my answers for the benifit of others.

I didn't realize you had it on the thread, I just saw your PM with the exact same thing. Please put on the thread.
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Also, please, no biggie, but just ask 1 place or the other. Better on the thread so all can see.

Then if I don't see it, send a PM, saying HEY ANSWER MY THREAD QUESTION!

That will streamline things..
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"1. You do format the card during the process, within ClockWork recovery, also you create the EXT partition and a swap partition. yes, this is going to delete everyting on the card, and even though some apps may survive, when you follow the process to install CM7, you clear all user data, etc. ALL apps will need to be put back on. Titanium Backup will help out.

2. In my opinion that "Move to SD" Button is useless, ok, it does save some, but not NEAR as much as this does. PLUS, that button will NOT move system apps. The code in DT's a2sd, "Tricks" the phone into thinking all the apps are on the phone, when they are really on the card. What it puts on the phone is a symbolic link (like a shortcut in windows).

I'm not sure about ALL widgets, but I can say I use them and have never had an issue.

Remember, after this - DO NOT PRESS that move to SD button.

Also, the reason I wrote it up like I did is even if you have CM7, just do this start totally fresh, that way no glitch somewhere or something. I know it's a PIA to put stuff back on, BUT, you'll be happy in the end.

last thing, of course you can install apps anytime, But, I was saying in the write up, if you install a bunch of stuff, then you flash a2sd, it will dump all that stuff to the SD, including system apps.
EXAMPLE FOR YOU: I have mabye 30 apps. about 200mb (160+ FREE).

After you boot after installing a2sd, go to terminal, type " su " (no quotes) for super user priv. type a2sd check and look thru, you will see. Look for it to say, apps running from sd, etc.
It also tells you how to move the Dalvik partition there too: a2sd cachesd (That saves about 80MB MIN), But make sure at least class 4 card, or it could slow you down.
My rule of thumb, when my mem goes below 100, I move the Dalvik.

Hope that helped...If you liked the write up...Hit thanks....LOL (gotta take what you can get....)

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Do me a favor, I saw your PM with these exact questions, will you please post my answers for the benifit of others.

I didn't realize you had it on the thread, I just saw your PM with the exact same thing. Please put on the thread.
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Also, please, no biggie, but just ask 1 place or the other. Better on the thread so all can see.

Then if I don't see it, send a PM, saying HEY ANSWER MY THREAD QUESTION!

That will streamline things..
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okay....it seems to me that all of this really wouldn't matter or even make that much of a difference if the phones RAM is set at a specific Max. Apparently our phones have an internal SD as well as the RAM.....now I can see how your process would help if the RAM is governed by virtual memory (meaning that the phone would increase the RAM if there's more internal memory available) but however if the RAM is set the only thing I can see that would actually have anything to do with improving the phones speed and performance is the compression option in the performance settings. otherwise from my understanding all you guys are doing is freeing up certain system processes stored on the internal SD that might normally be using a certain amount of your RAM at all times......So in a sense it would be no different than killing process running in the background, except without having to kill them
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okay....it seems to me that all of this really wouldn't matter or even make that much of a difference if the phones RAM is set at a specific Max. Apparently our phones have an internal SD as well as the RAM.....now I can see how your process would help if the RAM is governed by virtual memory (meaning that the phone would increase the RAM if there's more internal memory available) but however if the RAM is set the only thing I can see that would actually have anything to do with improving the phones speed and performance is the compression option in the performance settings. otherwise from my understanding all you guys are doing is freeing up certain system processes stored on the internal SD that might normally be using a certain amount of your RAM at all times......So in a sense it would be no different than killing process running in the background, except without having to kill them
yes, and thats also a reason why this phone lags alot on 2.1 from the low space internal memory the phone came with and the other problem is the cpu/gpu!!!
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okay....it seems to me that all of this really wouldn't matter or even make that much of a difference if the phones RAM is set at a specific Max. Apparently our phones have an internal SD as well as the RAM.....now I can see how your process would help if the RAM is governed by virtual memory (meaning that the phone would increase the RAM if there's more internal memory available) but however if the RAM is set the only thing I can see that would actually have anything to do with improving the phones speed and performance is the compression option in the performance settings. otherwise from my understanding all you guys are doing is freeing up certain system processes stored on the internal SD that might normally be using a certain amount of your RAM at all times......So in a sense it would be no different than killing process running in the background, except without having to kill them
Thanks Nutmeg very true.

Also, in my thinking too. We are NOT just talking about RAM here. 1. No the phone is not using the SD at all for "Virtual RAM" of any sort. So, no worries there.

The big thing is just plain old storage space for apps. Running stock toss on 20 apps or so, you will have 20 MB of "STORAGE" space left. With DT's A2SD 1. you can SET how much of the card to allocate to app storage, I use 512MB (But you can use from 256 up to a couple gigs).

That app reserved space is made to an EXT partition (Linux) and invisible in the file manager.

Also, you can MOVE the Dalvik partition (IF your not familiar just look wikipedia, explains well), to the SD, that frees up TONS of space. (This assumes you have min. class 4 sd for speed, otherwise it potentially could slow you down). I have an 8 Gig class 4 and it's fine. It was fine Before I put the SD accelerator on, now, a little better.

As far as the RAM for operation that you are refering to (I THINK?), the Linux programming of Android is designed to release programs from memory to get the RAM it needs (Thats why DO NOT use App killers), instead of App killers, use something like "Watchdog", it watchs for apps running amuk with your cpu a poorly coded app could take the cpu for a roller coaster ride, Watchdog will kill it if it's going nuts on your cpu. App killers do what Android does on it's own.

SO, Yes what your saying..why do this if your trying to save space for RAM....NOT THE CASE totally, you can put 10x the number of apps on, AND have alot of free space, which will help out ALOT. Yes, it helps with RAM.

BTW: There are basically 4 modes of storage AFTER this procedure (3 before):

Internal ROM: That is ONLY for putting the ROM on the phone, like CM7 or stock. It's about 180, after you put on CM7 there is about 72 left.

Internal Storage: Where all the Apps go w/o a2sd and where the phone gets it's memory: about 200MB, after a reasonable amount of apps you will only have say 40-50 left max, right now I have 140 free with a decent amout of apps (BUT I didn't move the Dalvik yet, if I did, I would have about 185 or so)

SD: Whatever you have in there minus how much you allocate for a2sd

SD (a2SD): Mine is 512MB (actually 503 after SWAP space taken out))-I have 390 left. IF you use TONS AND TONS of apps, just set this for 1024...

I hope that helps clear this up a little.

Again, Android (Linux), controls whats up in memory, just leave it there, it will release it when it needs RAM space. BUT, that watchdog isn't a bad move. Make sure to make necessary adjustments if you use CM7 since it's overclocked, otherwise it may thing something is cranking on the cpu..lol...

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PS: OH I just realized you were saying maybe the phone uses the INTERNAL SD for extra RAM. I will be honest I don't know if it can use that as Virtual RAM, just as windows uses the HD for Virtual RAM. I'll look into that, but sorry I misunderstood. But, the rest stands, I think it's on point
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and also to get the most and better performance and its recommended to use a class 4 but class 10 is better, to move your delvic to sdcard, and many other apps that wants the read speed to operate at it's best!!!
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can anybody give me the link to the downloads he has requested, update kernel? on my cm7 with build 521*** and looked on the wiki but can not find it
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can anybody give me the link to the downloads he has requested, update kernel? on my cm7 with build 521*** and looked on the wiki but can not find it

As it says on the wiki, the CPU update kernel for 748 needs to be updated and not to flash it with the 0521 release. So, we need to wait for it to be updated and released.

Isaac had a screenshot on his Twitter of the CPU setting at 810 MHz !!!
I don't know if that will be possible with the new Kernel or not. Maybe just updated for 748 for the new release.

Same goes for the new GApps, he said a new one will be there shortly also.

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As it says on the wiki, the CPU update kernel for 748 needs to be updated and not to flash it with the 0521 release. So, we need to wait for it to be updated and released.

Isaac had a screenshot on his Twitter of the CPU setting at 810 MHz !!!
I don't know if that will be possible with the new Kernel or not. Maybe just updated for 748 for the new release.

Same goes for the new GApps, he said a new one will be there shortly also.

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the 810Mhz wasnt stable
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Thanks GOD....LOL (I just love saying that)....Hmmm.

Maybe you can answer what I've been trying to find out. I was running the CM7 build and flashed the kernel to go back to 748 MHz. THEN I put the new one on, looked like a lot of fixes (05212011).

In the write-up it says "Do not flash that kernel, it needs updated first", so right now I am at 710.

Also, in the write up it says there is a new release of GApps, much better....BUT for now the old one is up.

NOW: I totally know these guys work on their own time, and I would never ask, "When is this coming".

My only question is, I was told Isaac is finished supporting, and I'm not asking when, but I'm wondering IF the Kernel flash and GApps are in the pipeline to be posted??, As I really can't tell much difference, BUT, if there is a flash to jump me back up I want to use it, and can never beat a nice stable GApps.....

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Thanks GOD....LOL (I just love saying that)....Hmmm.

Maybe you can answer what I've been trying to find out. I was running the CM7 build and flashed the kernel to go back to 748 MHz. THEN I put the new one on, looked like a lot of fixes (05212011).

In the write-up it says "Do not flash that kernel, it needs updated first", so right now I am at 710.

Also, in the write up it says there is a new release of GApps, much better....BUT for now the old one is up.

NOW: I totally know these guys work on their own time, and I would never ask, "When is this coming".

My only question is, I was told Isaac is finished supporting, and I'm not asking when, but I'm wondering IF the Kernel flash and GApps are in the pipeline to be posted??, As I really can't tell much difference, BUT, if there is a flash to jump me back up I want to use it, and can never beat a nice stable GApps.....

Any idea on that?

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Well the specific gapps isaac mentioned was more or less a certain version of gmaps that worked best with CM7-Ascend. Which we all know GMaps can be quite demanding of resources which the ascend has lil of to begin with.

As of Isaacs last postings, I am the officail maintainer of CM7 until he feels like picking it back up again or I hand it off to someone else.

As my knowledge of Android and CM7 is lacking anything near what isaac has n learned atm, new builds will be limited to aesthetics, and minor fixes n additions.

i want ot keep the same AOSP feel isaac tried to stay with, so until I learn more, builds will be limited to as I learn. The Metro 2.2 update with isaac steering me in the right direction was a big eye opener, but its just a cooked rom as compared to Cm6/7 which are built from src. Basically PlayfulMod is a Icarus2 with 2.2 as a base. AS I never installed icarus, I dont know what all was done to it, tho I been told its scarey close to icarus on a 2.2 level lol.

For as kernel patches, I may be able to post a kernel patch to go with the last build src I have as I have a s-oc'd kernel for it. but still all isaac's work/research/time, not mine. Once I learn the hardware etc like isaac dose I can compile stuff myself as long as I have src code for it.

So basically if a kernel patch isnt listed for a specific build, then dont try it with another build unless u have a backup to restore or wanna risk starting over.

Isnt this fun stuff? lol
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Well the specific gapps isaac mentioned was more or less a certain version of gmaps that worked best with CM7-Ascend. Which we all know GMaps can be quite demanding of resources which the ascend has lil of to begin with.

As of Isaacs last postings, I am the officail maintainer of CM7 until he feels like picking it back up again or I hand it off to someone else.

As my knowledge of Android and CM7 is lacking anything near what isaac has n learned atm, new builds will be limited to aesthetics, and minor fixes n additions.

i want ot keep the same AOSP feel isaac tried to stay with, so until I learn more, builds will be limited to as I learn. The Metro 2.2 update with isaac steering me in the right direction was a big eye opener, but its just a cooked rom as compared to Cm6/7 which are built from src. Basically PlayfulMod is a Icarus2 with 2.2 as a base. AS I never installed icarus, I dont know what all was done to it, tho I been told its scarey close to icarus on a 2.2 level lol.

For as kernel patches, I may be able to post a kernel patch to go with the last build src I have as I have a s-oc'd kernel for it. but still all isaac's work/research/time, not mine. Once I learn the hardware etc like isaac dose I can compile stuff myself as long as I have src code for it.

So basically if a kernel patch isnt listed for a specific build, then dont try it with another build unless u have a backup to restore or wanna risk starting over.

Isnt this fun stuff? lol
Ah....Playful...I didn't realize you grabbed the reins...good for you and GOOD LUCK...Yea, I am VERY happy with this build and wouldn't care a bit if a new one didn't show for a long time.

My only issue (again not asking or pressuring "WHEN", ONLY trying to understand the pipline). I put the latest build on, but as you know cannont flash the Kernel to 748 (which I guess was only made since some phones wouldn't support it, I guess those people could have just kept it at 710, but I guess he knew they would do it anyway, hence the kernel)

SO ALL that I'm looking for is an update to that that kernel flash, to put the overclock back where it was with the last build.

Otherwise, it becomes a question: What is better:
1. The new build running at peak 710
OR
2. The older one peak at 748

I don't know the answer, I'm guessing that the newest build probably outweighs the extra 38MHz, but, I just hope you understand my point.

I really really don't want to be a PIA about it, only bringing it up, as I've given it alot of thought, and keep wondering what is going on?

That said, I know know you are "The Man".....and I do look forward to the future. I hopefully look forward to that Kernel flash, as far as the GApps, point well taken.

Thank you for taking the time to listen, and I wish you the very best of luck and hope it works out for you.

All my best. Jeff

PS: Will the Wiki still be the best place to find the most updated info (i.e. IF that kernel were done, I would see it there, ONLY LOOKING FOR A WAY TO NOT BOTHER ANYONE, that's all....LOL..)

Have a Nice remainder of the weekend and a nice week to come.
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I was wondering if the steps to get apps onto my sd card are the same as in the ultimate customization guide, for icarus. Are the steps the same for icarus and cm6, or are there specific steps for CM6? Once creating a SD card partition, will my apps automatically be moved there, and willl new apps install there from now on? Thanks for your responses
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I was wondering if the steps to get apps onto my sd card are the same as in the ultimate customization guide, for icarus. Are the steps the same for icarus and cm6, or are there specific steps for CM6? Once creating a SD card partition, will my apps automatically be moved there, and willl new apps install there from now on? Thanks for your responses
okay so in that thread ultimate customization guide go all the way to cm7 section and go to the bottom of the page, you will see instructions for A2SD for cm6 and cm7, but it doesnt really say it like,
COME HERE ITS THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR CM6 AND CM7 A2SD!!!!
its not bold or anything, follow those steps. and when you do partition your SD you have to do commands in Terminal Emulator to move all the things over.
and yes when you install a new app it goes to the SD EXT.
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okay so in that thread ultimate customization guide go all the way to cm7 section and go to the bottom of the page, you will see instructions for A2SD for cm6 and cm7, but it doesnt really say it like,
COME HERE ITS THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR CM6 AND CM7 A2SD!!!!
its not bold or anything, follow those steps. and when you do partition your SD you have to do commands in Terminal Emulator to move all the things over.
and yes when you install a new app it goes to the SD EXT.
So, when I flash a2ds, all my apps will be moved. And then all future apps will also be moved. So I really don't need to add my apps before I flash it, right? I can just flash the CM7 and gapps, boot and maybe let it settle a bit, flash the a2sd, and then go thru and add my apps?
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So, when I flash a2ds, all my apps will be moved. And then all future apps will also be moved. So I really don't need to add my apps before I flash it, right? I can just flash the CM7 and gapps, boot and maybe let it settle a bit, flash the a2sd, and then go thru and add my apps?
a2sd is already installed tho
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this method works on cm6 also, just flash dta2sd and open TE and type suthan type a2sd cachesd to move the dalvik.
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Ok, so I formatted the phone and card, partitioned the card, flashed the new CM7 and gapps, rebooted. How do I move the apps now?
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Ok, so I formatted the phone and card, partitioned the card, flashed the new CM7 and gapps, rebooted. How do I move the apps now?

if you partition your sdcard and use swap 32, your apps and dalvik is already moved once your phone booted up for the first time, just open TE and type su, than type a2sd check and hit enter, look and see if it says apps run from sd card and also look for dalvik run from sd card.
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if you partition your sdcard and use swap 32, your apps and dalvik is already moved once your phone booted up for the first time, just open TE and type su, than type a2sd check and hit enter, look and see if it says apps run from sd card and also look for dalvik run from sd card.
Oooooooh. So the only reason my apps weren't running from sd before is that I wasn't partitioned. That's the trigger that moves everything to the card.
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Oooooooh. So the only reason my apps weren't running from sd before is that I wasn't partitioned. That's the trigger that moves everything to the card.

yup, after you partition the card, the magic happens, but best thing to do is partition it before installing the rom, but you can always do it afterwards, but install cache cleaner from market and open it up once you install it and look how much free space you have, you can also use titu to view your space, and also moves apps to sd also.
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