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Old November 3rd, 2012, 01:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i have a straight talk Huawei Ascend Y and i cant seem to find anything on rooting it can someone please help it has 2.3.6
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I could use some help with this too... the other one doesn't work. Since I'm new and can't post links, it's the thread on here called "Step by Step Rooting Instructions: for Huawei Ascend". Nothing there works at all.

From all the searching, it seems that any non-StraightTalk Ascend can be rooted via some really complicated flashing method that we StraightTalk users can't do because we don't have quick flash reboot something or other...

Lame. There's SO much crap that I need to do that I can't that my phone SHOULD be able to do. I'm already out of space (almost) and I've hardly installed anything! I can't even install a clean up program because I am not rooted and can't get rooted.

I'm getting sick of the tech industry and devs creating stuff that essentially does nothing unless you hack it yourself, then trying to prevent you from hacking it so you pay tons of money for... nothing.

Also I would appreciate anyone NOT suggesting to get a "better" phone because I can't. First, I can't switch carriers and this is the only phone I can afford on StraightTalk so... don't even bother with that non-helpful crap.
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Yea I tryed that to
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it seems like a good phone i really just use it for the unlimited internet i have another cell i use for everything else but it would still be nice to get it rooted.
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I could use some help with this too... the other one doesn't work. Since I'm new and can't post links, it's the thread on here called "Step by Step Rooting Instructions: for Huawei Ascend". Nothing there works at all.

From all the searching, it seems that any non-StraightTalk Ascend can be rooted via some really complicated flashing method that we StraightTalk users can't do because we don't have quick flash reboot something or other...

Lame. There's SO much crap that I need to do that I can't that my phone SHOULD be able to do. I'm already out of space (almost) and I've hardly installed anything! I can't even install a clean up program because I am not rooted and can't get rooted.

I'm getting sick of the tech industry and devs creating stuff that essentially does nothing unless you hack it yourself, then trying to prevent you from hacking it so you pay tons of money for... nothing.

Also I would appreciate anyone NOT suggesting to get a "better" phone because I can't. First, I can't switch carriers and this is the only phone I can afford on StraightTalk so... don't even bother with that non-helpful crap.
Hey I have 2 of the same phone and have a 16gb micro SD card in it
I agree it is a good phone just a pain in the ass to find
the right rooting tools
If I find it ill send it to you but I agree we ain't rich
So unless everyone wants to buy us new phones
They can kiss our asses cuz even this phone is over
$100 so best of luck I even tried gingerbreak and it wants to but won't give
but there has to be something out there I have u torrent and all m stuff
Is on SD cards nothings in my phone space wise and I still
can't download any apps
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Hey I have 2 of the same phone and have a 16gb micro SD card in it
I agree it is a good phone just a pain in the ass to find
the right rooting tools
If I find it ill send it to you but I agree we ain't rich
So unless everyone wants to buy us new phones
They can kiss our asses cuz even this phone is over
$100 so best of luck I even tried gingerbreak and it wants to but won't give
but there has to be something out there I have u torrent and all m stuff
Is on SD cards nothings in my phone space wise and I still
can't download any apps
It's both the phone its the opperating program
Its almost as bad as the ios for iPhone sometimes
Cuz jailbreaking the iPhone 4u can't shut the phone off
Or it kills the jailbreak so all programs suck especially
For our phones I feel your pain
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I have been searching for three weeks and have tried just about everything. All rooting methods want you to root by installing a custom rom, which requires a custom recovery like clockwork mod, which cant be installed without rooting first. ITS A DAMN CONUNDRUM!! I chose this phone because i needed verizon service without $110 a month but i am not poor by any means. So here it is , I'm offerring to pay a bounty for all of us. I WILL PAY $100 TO ANYONE WHO CAN GIVE ME A WORKING ROOT METHOD FOR THIS PHONE, AND SHOW ME VIDEO EVIDENCE OF IT RUNNING SUPERUSER PERMISSIONS.
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This phone (H866C) is apparently vulnerable to the exploit I used in Poot [ Optimus Elite root with an apk ]. There is a little bit of work to be done to make it actually work on this model, but I have good reason to believe it can be done.

If you want to mail me your phone, it shouldnt take more than a couple hours to get rooted. Then you can send me the $100, and everybody is happy.
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Thankd for the quick reply. I was surprised you found this thread. I tried your poot last week. Got error 87, and if i tried again without reboot i got error 22. It would be excellent if you could make this work for us, but i cant send my phone, its a work line. Is there anyway you could buy one, then return it?
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I tried the poot exploit on my phone last night, no dice. It gives an error and says the phone needs to be reset. Doesn't root the phone. Also tried superoneclick as well, no root there either.

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Just tried z4root as well, doesn't work either.
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See, this is what frustrates me so much about the issue.

I understand it is a cheaper phone. Mine came with a 4 gig MicroSD card. I haven't even come close to using half a gig of this SD card and even if I rand out, I have much larger MicroSD cards.

Now, why would you make a phone to run with the Android OS as the ability to download apps and everything else but not give it enough internal memory to basically do anything other than the bare minimum that any non-smart phone can do because there's not enough internal memory to even install apps to the SD card.

If it were possible to root this phone, half the issues I have could be resolved easily, such as the removal off all this bulky and unnecessary standard crap that you can't remove, like Google Talk and Google Messenger, Google Play Books, Google ____ (I see a pattern here, I really hate to have to start hating Google :\), Voice Dialer, Local and any other thing that you may not ever even need or would ever use which also can't be moved to the SD memory...

It also is a bit bothersome that I have SO much SD memory going to waste because part of it can't be partitioned off to use as RAM (since the phone basically has NONE).

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I saw this http://theunlockr.com/2012/07/31/how-to-root-the-huawei-ascend-ii-running-android-2-3-6/ and got excited because the Hauwei Ascend II looks identical to the Ascend Y H886 that I have, but then I started reading. In order to do this one, you have to be able to boot in fastboot mode, which the Ascend Y H886 doesn't have. :\
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Why does everyone say you can't use the SD card to run apps? It definitely is possible to run apps from the card - of course they get lost if you power off the phone.
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Why does everyone say you can't use the SD card to run apps? It definitely is possible to run apps from the card - of course they get lost if you power off the phone.
No, you're not understanding.

All my apps that can be on the SD card, are.

Some apps though, the bloatware that came with the phone, absolutely cannot be transferred to the SD card.

Furthermore, even if you set it up to install directly to the SD card, just to install/download the app, you have to have enough internal memory to do this.

Even then, apps on and running from the SD card still use internal memory.

Currently these are the apps running that I have and the amount of internal memory used...
In use:
Settings 8.0 mb
Google Services (not transferable) 6.6 MB
Thumb Keyboard (on SD card) 7.9 MB

NEVER used or not currently in use:
Yahoo! Messenger (stored on SD card) 4.1 MB
My Calendar (not transferable to SD card), 1.9 MB
Huawei Media (not transferable) 4.7 MB
Google Maps (not transferable) 5.5 MB
Google Maps (yes, another one, why I don't know) 5.9 MB

RAM/Internal Memory - 95 MB used, 40 MB free.

This is after running "Fast Reboot" and clearing the cache. Anything larger than 40 MB download or install size (regardless of how big the app is after installation) cannot be used/downloaded/installed regardless of how much space is on the SD card or if it is installed directly to the SD card. This is the MOST Internal memory I ever have free at any one given time.
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From what I can tell the fastboot mode on the H866C is the opposite of the Ascend II - hold the volume UP key while holding the power button at startup. The Huawei Ascend logo will appear and the unit with vibrate - continue to hold for another 15 sec or so. Just keep it pressed until the splash screen with the little android dude hopping out of the box appears. It then switches to another graphic of our little green friend and the caution symbol (exclamation mark inside of a triangle) and the android system recovery dialog appears. Is this the same as fastboot? somehow I think not, but there are options to apply update from SD card. Granted being an uber-noob to android I might simply be stating the obvious.
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From more searching, I found this today but I'm not sure if it works:
Huawei Ascend y200 (u8655) Root

I downloaded all that it said and haven't made it far through the process because this part makes NO sense:
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RUN THE INSTALL adb EXE FILE

when u have run the install adb exe , plug in ur phone to computer & a new drive will appear in my computer. install the adb program files choosing either win 7 or XP (2 choices)
Prior to running this file, which is not called "install adb" it's just "adb", I already did have a new drive appear when connecting my phone. If I had USB debugging off, I got the phone internal memory "drive" and the SD drive both under the same device (Android Adapter).

If I had USB debugging off, I didn't have these two but a different one called "Mobile Partner" under the same device (Android Adapter). So first, I don't know if that's the "new" drive that it's talking about or if it's supposed to be a different one.

Next it says to "install the adb program files choosing either win 7 or xp". What adb program files? There aren't any in the zip downloaded to the phone and the only other program in the computer download is "fastboot.exe". I tried installing that too but... the whole time I never got to choose anything anywhere, so I've not gone any further.

EDIT:
I found the original thread that the poster on that forum got this from, it's a German site, I'm translating it now since I actually can speak German and already the dude has the instructions way confusing.
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So here's the instructions on how to do this.

Part I - Initial Set-up for Rooting Process
1. On your phone, go to Settings > Applications > Development. Enable "USB debugging".

2. Plug the USB cable into the phone and connect it to the computer. Open up "My Computer" and you should see a new CD drive called "Mobile Partner".

3. Double click this new drive and go to CD Drive: Mobile Partner > drivers > adb_driver. There should be a file in here, mine says "Handset WinDriver.exe", run this file. It installs the driver to your computer. When finished, it should say "Android Composite ADB Interface" has been installed or whatever.

4. On the phone, open Settings > Applications and un-check or disable "Quick PowerOn".

5. Download Root_Y200_v5.2_int.zip to your computer and download Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip to the root of the SD card directory of your phone. Go ahead and extract the zip file downloaded to the computer and open up this folder to have it ready.

6. Now eject the Android device on your computer and unplug it from the USB cable. Turn the phone off by holding the power button until a menu comes up and select "Power Off". Once the phone is off, remove the battery. At this point, you may want to also remove the SD card and copy/backup manually everything that's on it to your computer.
Part II - CWM (ClockworkMod) Installation
This part I can't get to work no matter what I do, I've tried flashing several versions and nothing works. It's necessary in order to install the SuperUser from the boot menu.

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Have any luck?
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So far all these posts are useless. Without fastboot and without the ability to put a custom recovery on this phone the only way to root it is going to be if someone can create an update file that is rooted that has the Hauwei signature that the phone will allow it to install.
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So far all these posts are useless. Without fastboot and without the ability to put a custom recovery on this phone the only way to root it is going to be if someone can create an update file that is rooted that has the Hauwei signature that the phone will allow it to install.
Exactly.

Absolutely NOTHING will flash in, not even any current .bat file or exe to be run from the computer that has fastboot with a signature for any of the closest models.

I tried everything for all the closest models and it's not happening, period and I have 0 programming skills nor would I even know how to go about faking, much less getting, the signature that it will accept.

It's like they do this shit just to annoy us...
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Default Just need to put H866c in Diag mode

Hey, I just need to put my straight talk H866C in Daig mode and Ive tried a few different things but what works on other models does not work on this model or the end options are not there to click.. PLEASE HELP! All I want to do is put the phone in Diag mode for CDMA workshop.
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Thankd for the quick reply. I was surprised you found this thread. I tried your poot last week. Got error 87, and if i tried again without reboot i got error 22. It would be excellent if you could make this work for us, but i cant send my phone, its a work line. Is there anyway you could buy one, then return it?
No, but you can buy one and mail it to me and then return it.
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So... where would we go to ask somebody to try and figure out how to root this phone specifically...

As in like, the people who originally make the rooting processes/tools? I can't even find a single one that will take requests. :\

I also have no idea how to even begin trying to figure out how to root a different phone and I can't afford to purchase another one to give to somebody to try and figure out and nobody around here knows about that crap.
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So anybody have any luck yet?
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So... where would we go to ask somebody to try and figure out how to root this phone specifically...
What are you expecting? I'm telling you that if you put one of these phones in my hand, I will have it rooted in under an hour. You already have somebody that says they will fork out $100 which would cover the price of the phone. Even in the case that I can't get it done, you'd still be able to take the thing back to the store and get your money back.

Are you are expecting somebody to magically know how to root a phone without ever having access to it?
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What are you expecting? I'm telling you that if you put one of these phones in my hand, I will have it rooted in under an hour. You already have somebody that says they will fork out $100 which would cover the price of the phone. Even in the case that I can't get it done, you'd still be able to take the thing back to the store and get your money back.

Are you are expecting somebody to magically know how to root a phone without ever having access to it?
No, and never did I even say that.

Yet there are those who figure it out without access that have done it to several phones and make generalised tools. I know there are general principles behind it but don't know what they are.

I also can't afford to buy another one, or ship it to whoever.

TONS of people from all over have been asking about this phone and not one single person that knows how to root phones has had somebody near them want it rooted? I don't think so, this phone isn't THAT new.

Any time you see the root method/process for the m865... one of the FIRST things asked: "will this work on the H866C?" since they're almost identical. And the answer is always no, it doesn't.

I mean that's the whole reason I got such a shitty phone - it's all I could afford, and I had to go overdraft for it, I only get $475 per month.
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Ok, so more searching into this has produced something interesting. While looking up any possible way to further identify similar model phones in hopes of piecing together a root method for the H866C, I found my way to the fcc.gov site where a search of the FCCID number QISM866 (found under the battery of the H866C) turned up something interesting (click HERE to perform your own search for QISM866 as I was unable to link directly to the search results) apparently the H866C and the M866 have the same exact FCCID! Those more versed in such please correct me, but I assume that means they are basically the same phone.

Now I have to ask - is the root process dependant on the software or the hardware? Or both? Does the root process depend on what phone is being rooted or the carrier specfic software or a combination of these?
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Ok, so more searching into this has produced something interesting. While looking up any possible way to further identify similar model phones in hopes of piecing together a root method for the H866C, I found my way to the fcc.gov site where a search of the FCCID number QISM866 (found under the battery of the H866C) turned up something interesting (click HERE to perform your own search for QISM866 as I was unable to link directly to the search results) apparently the H866C and the M866 have the same exact FCCID! Those more versed in such please correct me, but I assume that means they are basically the same phone.

Now I have to ask - is the root process dependant on the software or the hardware? Or both? Does the root process depend on what phone is being rooted or the carrier specfic software or a combination of these?
Proof of my prior statement.

I can quickly give you more information on the phone...

From "About Phone":
Model: H866C
Android version: 2.3.6
Baseband version: 109808
Kernel version: 2.6.38.3-perf android@localhost #1
From inside the battery area:
Tracfone Wireless, INC.
Model: Huawei H866C
FCC ID: QISM866
Date: 15-09-2012
Part No.: GPHUH866CB
It is sold in the store as "Huawei Ascend Y100".
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well im not really sure what it proves, but its stands to reason that if the root process is hardware specific, then the end may be in sight (and there was much rejoycing). However if its more software or carrier dependent or a combination of things, then I understand giantpune's point of needing the device in hand. If you stop and think that the phone i basicaly a handheld computer running a linux distro, then it could take all sorts of sortware - but weather it will still work as a phone with your carrier may be a different animal all together. - im kinda guessing on all this, so am I on the right track in my assumptions? anyone?
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well im not really sure what it proves, but its stands to reason that if the root process is hardware specific, then the end may be in sight (and there was much rejoycing). However if its more software or carrier dependent or a combination of things, then I understand giantpune's point of needing the device in hand. If you stop and think that the phone i basicaly a handheld computer running a linux distro, then it could take all sorts of sortware - but weather it will still work as a phone with your carrier may be a different animal all together. - im kinda guessing on all this, so am I on the right track in my assumptions? anyone?
I would think rooting would have to do more with specifically how the operating system is set up, which would be done in relation to hardware.

I have the Android SDK/Eclipse, I can try and see if it will let me see into the system itself...

It won't let me run a system trace on my phone. I can't obtain the UI hierarchy because the phone doesn't have a high enough API (level 16 required). I can use the file explorer and it does show permissions, I'm pulling the files now... I dunno if it'll block my ability to pull from the system folders, but at the very least I can see what the permissions are and the structure...

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I was able to pull all the files I think. 86.4 MB total in size, but I don't know what of these files would even be relevant...
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 10:33 AM   #30 (permalink)
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So, would that work at all, having all that information PLUS all the files from the phone? Could somebody be able to build a root just with that?

I mean it may as well be as good as having the phone and if you have the FREE Android SKD/Eclipse, you can emulate the phone exactly...
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have you guys tried the rooting method for the ascend Q?
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Old November 24th, 2012, 01:31 PM   #32 (permalink)
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have you guys tried the rooting method for the ascend Q?
There is no root method (at least that I can find) for the Ascend Q (M660), which isn't even CLOSE to the same thing as the Ascend Y100 (H866)...

What do people normally need to develop a rooting method for these phones, because, as I said before, I pulled ALL the system files from my phone using the Android SDK...
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anyone found anything on rooting this phone? h866c? its trash without root! any advice pklease!!!!
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I have been watching this thread hoping someone would find a way to root this phone but it looks like it may not happen for a while.
Anyway why does the poot method not work on this phone it works on the ascend 2 from straight talk which was also impossible to root because of the same signature error.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 12:17 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I have been watching this thread hoping someone would find a way to root this phone but it looks like it may not happen for a while.
Anyway why does the poot method not work on this phone it works on the ascend 2 from straight talk which was also impossible to root because of the same signature error.
Because it's a different signature I would imagine. I've not heard of this method but I found it and will test now...

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Tested, doesn't work. Poot, after finally updating and installing everything, gives a "fatal error" and closes, won't even give the button to "poot" the phone.
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Not sure what is happening on your phone, but Poot doesn't give a fatal error on my h866c. It gives error code 87 and fails to root the phone, but it never crashes.
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Not sure what is happening on your phone, but Poot doesn't give a fatal error on my h866c. It gives error code 87 and fails to root the phone, but it never crashes.
Either way, it doesn't work.

Also, I do have all the system files pulled from the phone still.... does anyone know if this is enough to build a root method from?
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The Guy you were arguing with earlier (GiantPune) wrote the poot one click root method. I'm almost positive he's the only person to reply so far that has a clue as far as the answers you are looking for. Too bad you chased him off!
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Old November 30th, 2012, 01:35 AM   #39 (permalink)
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The Guy you were arguing with earlier (GiantPune) wrote the poot one click root method. I'm almost positive he's the only person to reply so far that has a clue as far as the answers you are looking for. Too bad you chased him off!
I wasn't arguing and if he ran off, that's his deal.

You don't go in acting pretentious as if everyone is supposed to know exactly what the process is for something so esoteric. That's like a surgeon getting pissed that you don't know some minor detail of their job.

I'm sure he's not the only person who knows how to root phones.
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Certainly he's not the only one, but he was the one who got the earlier Huwaei m865 rooted,which had been quite difficult for many others.... I'd have to agree that he was probably our best hope.
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Certainly he's not the only one, but he was the one who got the earlier Huwaei m865 rooted,which had been quite difficult for many others.... I'd have to agree that he was probably our best hope.
I doubt that.

First, I doubt I "ran that guy off" or whatever.

Second, I don't think anyone is really paying much attention to this topic except those who have this particular phone because I've asked two or three times now whether or not simply having all the system files from the phone would be enough to make a root and anyone who at least knows something about rooting beyond how to use a guide to root your phone or why you should root would have been able to answer that question and nobody has.

Third, there are TONS of people doing this stuff on a bunch of different forums.

Fourth, if nothing is happening, I'm going to find out exactly what rooting is (as in the fine details) and figure it out myself (though that may take a while).

The reason that the m865 took so long to get a root method for is because, relative to other Android phones, hardly anyone uses it.
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Be that as it may, giantpune is active on this particular forum, and here we are... On this forum... Anyhow, you certainly live up to your name, as I believe you have quite well cursed this thread.
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Be that as it may, giantpune is active on this particular forum, and here we are... On this forum... Anyhow, you certainly live up to your name, as I believe you have quite well cursed this thread.
has anyone gotten closer to a working root
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i have tried everything,im trashing the project in favor of samsung devices,much simpler
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Not sure what is happening on your phone, but Poot doesn't give a fatal error on my h866c. It gives error code 87 and fails to root the phone, but it never crashes.
Did you install superuser and reboot the phone? I got an error message on my Mercury but it was still rooted. You have to get superuser from Google play for it to work.
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If you guys are handy with adb and Linux, this is supposed to work for any Android phone.

Article : How to Root Any Android Device Manually
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Tried (Article : How to Root Any Android Device Manually) yet? anyone..
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tried it up to the part that requires linux, downloaded ubuntu and got completely lost.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 01:10 PM   #49 (permalink)
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great link there bud. as soon as i get a live run distro ill work on rooting the h866c! Im versed in linux and pretty sure i can get the h866c rooted. hit me up for any questions

it is not a lengthly process however i need to get back to missouri to get the live run booted. anyone willing to pay for postage i can help them out with this root.
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I've tried to root via linux and when in recovery mode on the phone it does not allow to move them files into system because there is no download mode. Anyone else have any ideas?
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