grabbed this idea from XDA forum .. thought some people here may not be voting over there.
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Ok I am seeing a few threads on people's impressions on the Prime. Some say theirs is completely fine, some say they have wifi/gps issues, some have stuttering, some have screen issues, etc. However, I feel that it is kind of hard to gauge how the Prime is doing due to certain thread titles attracting different people (IE: A thread called "GPS Issues" would attract negative impressions on the Prime while a thread called "Positive Transformer Prime Thread" would attract positive impressions).
So I thought I'd make a hopefully unbiased poll so people who want to buy the Prime (like me) won't have to read a thread full of people saying their GPS doesn't work and then go to another thread with people saying that their Prime works perfect.
Vote above please.
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When I get mine I'll vote. Should be Tuesday!
Edit - This thing is great. I have not had any of the issues reported here or at XDA.
Gps and wifi work great. No light bleed and it feels really solid.
5 stars
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So far it is amazing. We used it to play.Christmas music when our family came down Christmas Eve and i saw 3 things right off the bat that amazed me.
1. Screen is amazing
2. Sound quality is better than any.handheld device.out and thats w/o the keyboard/subwoofer
3. The battery and energy use is.great. played music.for approx 8 hrs and battery was at 93%
4. The spun aluminum case kept it cold to the touch. Not room temperature. Not cool. But cold. No overheating issues ever i imagine.
5. Graphics are almost console quality on the free ball rolling game (whatever it was called)
Oops thats more than 3 but the more i thought about it the more i came up with.
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Don't even get me started. Ordered with Tiger Direct USA on 11/22, called and was told it would ship 12/19, called on 12/19 and was told they received NO SHIPMENTS from Asus and the first shipment would be 1/15/12.
Then I read on-line customers who now have a Prime they state came from Tiger Direct. Trying hard to give them a break but I feel deceived.
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My daughter loves it but she pointed out three things I noticed but had not mentioned since I did not want to spoil her gift and also since it was from Santa and I have never seen it before.
The first is the boot time. It is extremely long. I was not going to compare to the iPad 2 but she made the statement while we waited on the bootup .."you could boot the iPad 2 a bunch of times before this boots once. I hope it gets faster." I have to agree that the boot time is horrible.
She also noticed the light bleed on the right side. Its most noticable on dark screens and will definitely be an eye catcher during dark scenes in movies. The nice long boot time does not help because you really get to look at the light bleed a long time.
Next is the interface speed. Now I had the Xoom and see the improvement in speed but I have to agree with my daughters obverstation that it still is not silky smooth like the the iPad 2.
We also experienced APP crashes and a random reboot. She did not know whatthe crash was so I acted like it was nothing and just closed it out. It happened again on another app while I had stepped away and she read the prompt and came to get me. I have not played with the iPad 2 extensively but she uses one daily and she said she has never had that happen on hers.
I think the device is ok. Don't care for the light bleed . This one has a cracking sound when held on left side near the volume buttons. I can push on the screen in the location and tell there is movement between it and the shell. Just not to sure about the device yet. I will probably return it and at least try to get one that does not have such noticable light bleed.
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I'm pretty happy with mine so far. No wifi problems or light bleed. I am not sure that my gps is working. I have only tried to connect once and couldn't, but it may have been a line of sight issue. I'll try it again soon. If there is a gps issue like others have reported hopefully it can be corrected with a firmware update. I have had a couple of reboots and I agree that the boot time seems really long. But otherwise I love it. Can't wait for some ice cream sandwich!!
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My daughter loves it but she pointed out three things I noticed but had not mentioned since I did not want to spoil her gift and also since it was from Santa and I have never seen it before.
The first is the boot time. It is extremely long. I was not going to compare to the iPad 2 but she made the statement while we waited on the bootup .."you could boot the iPad 2 a bunch of times before this boots once. I hope it gets faster." I have to agree that the boot time is horrible.
She also noticed the light bleed on the right side. Its most noticable on dark screens and will definitely be an eye catcher during dark scenes in movies. The nice long boot time does not help because you really get to look at the light bleed a long time.
Next is the interface speed. Now I had the Xoom and see the improvement in speed but I have to agree with my daughters obverstation that it still is not silky smooth like the the iPad 2.
We also experienced APP crashes and a random reboot. She did not know whatthe crash was so I acted like it was nothing and just closed it out. It happened again on another app while I had stepped away and she read the prompt and came to get me. I have not played with the iPad 2 extensively but she uses one daily and she said she has never had that happen on hers.
I think the device is ok. Don't care for the light bleed . This one has a cracking sound when held on left side near the volume buttons. I can push on the screen in the location and tell there is movement between it and the shell. Just not to sure about the device yet. I will probably return it and at least try to get one that does not have such noticable light bleed.
Hmm mine boots in under 1 minute. ICS will fix a lot.Honeycomb is full of bugs.Btw I love this thing.Had it at my families house for Christmas & everyone raved over it.How it's so thin & how beautiful the screen & graphics were.There were 2 ipads there that no one payed any attention too.
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I love this tablet. I don't have any issues other than standard HC issues, which should be fixed with the imminent ICS update. WiFi strength/range is roughly the same as my Galaxy Nexus', the only time I tested the GPS it locked instantly to my exact location in google maps, screen is beautiful. Battery life has been pretty good over all, though i wish the cord was longer. There are a few bloat apps on it, and even like 6 bloat music tracks that can't be deleted. Overall I'm very happy with it. Eagerly awaiting the keyboard dock and the ICS update. Anyone know if there's been any progress on obtaining root on it yet?
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I love this tablet. I don't have any issues other than standard HC issues, which should be fixed with the imminent ICS update. WiFi strength/range is roughly the same as my Galaxy Nexus', the only time I tested the GPS it locked instantly to my exact location in google maps, screen is beautiful. Battery life has been pretty good over all, though i wish the cord was longer. There are a few bloat apps on it, and even like 6 bloat music tracks that can't be deleted. Overall I'm very happy with it. Eagerly awaiting the keyboard dock and the ICS update. Anyone know if there's been any progress on obtaining root on it yet?
For the music tracks, did you go into File Manager and delete them through there? That's what I did and they deleted fine.
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My first tablet, I had toyed around with getting a Galaxy 10.1, but when I heard about the Prime being the first quad to come out, I figured I could hold out for the latest and greatest.
Wife and I are happy with the purchase, I've been playing with it ever since I got my hands on it. Haven't had any issues like those stated above. No light bleed, no spotty wifi, no GPS issues, no random reboots. All and all I'm a very satisfied customer.
I say it meets expectations. Fast, quick, easy to use, I love it.
But I see a few minor issues...
1. the Battery life report says nothing and only shows system apps. This is generally kernel related and it seems their kernel is not reporting data about what apps are using battery, only system apps.
2. when in the Marekt app, if you select "my apps" you see a list of all your apps. If you click one, you got to the apps permissions?? WTF? So, if you want to see the change log or reviews you have to back out, search for the app, and then you can see the apps details and update. My phone does it right, the tablet does it wrong.
1 big issue...
GPS. I cant see or lock on any satellites. Not inside, not outside. Not after reboot not after clear AGPS data. This is reported by many. I pray they fix it via an OTA update.
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GPS. I cant see or lock on any satellites. Not inside, not outside. Not after reboot not after clear AGPS data. This is reported by many. I pray they fix it via an OTA update.
L-N-L,
I wonder if you just have a bad unit? I have seen others that say theirs is working fine? Hmmmm. I haven't ever dealt with Asus support, but have you talked with them?
Don't even get me started. Ordered with Tiger Direct USA on 11/22, called and was told it would ship 12/19, called on 12/19 and was told they received NO SHIPMENTS from Asus and the first shipment would be 1/15/12.
Then I read on-line customers who now have a Prime they state came from Tiger Direct. Trying hard to give them a break but I feel deceived.
I am really enjoying my transformer prime in the two days i've had it. We ordered it 11.27.11 from Best Buy. Got a shipping notice from Best Buy on 12.19.11 and arrived on 12.27.11. Was disappointed I didn't get it for Christams, but beggers can't be chosers.
This is my first tablet and I am really impressed. Co-workers who saw me play with it after it was delivered (had it shipped to office) were impressed with it too, especially the one who just got their ipad2. For me, the Prime is the most practical. I got the 32gb model, and the keyboard dock. Also picked up a 32gb micro sd card for it. My wife just got a new dslr camera and we can use the sd card for the camera in the keyboard dock and view the images instantly. This will be great as we are going on a European vacation in the spring so we can view the pictures instantly as well as have something to entertain us for the long flight over.
I really like the solid feel and the metal case. Again, I don't have a lot of experience with tablets, but i've looked/demoed a number and it feels the best in the hand.
As for use, i've noticed it lag a couple of times, but it seems to have happened when i had something else running. I am not overly concerned at this point as i know honeycomb is not taking advantage of the the quad core.
As for the issues people have mentioned, I am a poor judge for light bleed. I wasn't having any wi-fi issues, but i did install the firmware updates this morning on the machine and have noticed improved signal strength, atleast in the office. As for the GPS, it has a note within 20 meters of exact location. At home it put me in the street outside my house and at the office it has me sitting in the parking lot. not exact, but not far off.
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I am really enjoying my transformer prime in the two days i've had it. We ordered it 11.27.11 from Best Buy. Got a shipping notice from Best Buy on 12.19.11 and arrived on 12.27.11. Was disappointed I didn't get it for Christams, but beggers can't be chosers.
This is my first tablet and I am really impressed. Co-workers who saw me play with it after it was delivered (had it shipped to office) were impressed with it too, especially the one who just got their ipad2. For me, the Prime is the most practical. I got the 32gb model, and the keyboard dock. Also picked up a 32gb micro sd card for it. My wife just got a new dslr camera and we can use the sd card for the camera in the keyboard dock and view the images instantly. This will be great as we are going on a European vacation in the spring so we can view the pictures instantly as well as have something to entertain us for the long flight over.
I really like the solid feel and the metal case. Again, I don't have a lot of experience with tablets, but i've looked/demoed a number and it feels the best in the hand.
As for use, i've noticed it lag a couple of times, but it seems to have happened when i had something else running. I am not overly concerned at this point as i know honeycomb is not taking advantage of the the quad core.
As for the issues people have mentioned, I am a poor judge for light bleed. I wasn't having any wi-fi issues, but i did install the firmware updates this morning on the machine and have noticed improved signal strength, atleast in the office. As for the GPS, it has a note within 20 meters of exact location. At home it put me in the street outside my house and at the office it has me sitting in the parking lot. not exact, but not far off.
Noticed someone posting about the short cable (i'm assuming it's the charging cable they're referring to). I have an Asus Transformer (the original one) and discovered that a standard USB extension cable (USB2 or USB3 only, not the USB1 cable) can be put in-between the AC adapter and the Asus proprietary cable in order to extend the length of the charging cable. Charges just fine. I assume that this hasn't been changed for the Transformer Prime.
Noticed someone posting about the short cable (i'm assuming it's the charging cable they're referring to). I have an Asus Transformer (the original one) and discovered that a standard USB extension cable (USB2 or USB3 only, not the USB1 cable) can be put in-between the AC adapter and the Asus proprietary cable in order to extend the length of the charging cable. Charges just fine. I assume that this hasn't been changed for the Transformer Prime.
I tried a usb extention cord, and it didn't work. Though i can't honestly remember if it's usb1 or 2. So I don't know which was the problem. The cord is pretty standard length through, I just wish it was longer.
Of those not experiencing GPS issues, how many of you are actually using the GPS?
Polls on XDA indicate that there IS an issue with the GPS on almost 2/3 of the units, so I find the big fat zero on this poll very suspicious.
I cannot say I have actually used it. I have tested accuracy. It does not get my location nearly as close as my iPhone does. My iPhone shows me in my house but not so exact as to be the correct room. Our Primes put us about 60 to 100 yards away.
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LOL thats my thread on XDA. o_O
No Gary, I'm talking about this thread, not yours. Your poll only shows about 1/4 of the units having GPS issues.
Not that I think either sample size is large enough to be representative of any reality, but it still shows me that there is a problem with the Prime's GPS, if not the scope of the problem itself.
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Of those not experiencing GPS issues, how many of you are actually using the GPS?
Polls on XDA indicate that there IS an issue with the GPS on almost 2/3 of the units, so I find the big fat zero on this poll very suspicious.
I don't use GPS very much but in my opinion, I will use my phone as the GPS unit anyways. Never did I see in reviews that this tablet was a dedicated GPS unit. Should it work? Absolutely but when the tablet doesn't have cell service and it can't use cell tower coordinates, finding your GPS coordinates on a wifi-only tablet will take longer than a cell phone. But imo, with future updates, GPS will get better
I voted early in this poll and have since discovered that the gps is worthless from a practical standpoint. I wish I could change my vote to below expectations and having gps issues.
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I voted early in this poll and have since discovered that the gps is worthless from a practical standpoint. I wish I could change my vote to below expectations and having gps issues.
as someone said above, i never really expected it to have GPS. Cant imagine when i would ever use it. accept for getting local weather maybe?
I have had mine a week. Games look awesome. Very fast scrolling etc. I spent over three hours trying to get GPS to work it was completely non responsive until I downloaded GPS essentials program. Then it at least found the satellites. Several of my favorite programs don't work correctly (Honeycomb problems?) either the graphics don't line up on screen correctly or they do random closes.
The video is a BIG disappointment. I was sure I read the prime would play some of the common video formats but so far It hasn't run any of my .avi .wmv .mpg or even my .mp4 video files! The only ones I have got working are ones I ran through a special converter program. That is really unacceptable.
The camera is great and I love its speed.
Boot up is very slow and you don't even get a cool animation to watch! No light bleed on my unit.
All in All I like the tablet and am hoping ICS will solve some of the issues
I have had mine a week. Games look awesome. Very fast scrolling etc. I spent over three hours trying to get GPS to work it was completely non responsive until I downloaded GPS essentials program. Then it at least found the satellites. Several of my favorite programs don't work correctly (Honeycomb problems?) either the graphics don't line up on screen correctly or they do random closes.
The video is a BIG disappointment. I was sure I read the prime would play some of the common video formats but so far It hasn't run any of my .avi .wmv .mpg or even my .mp4 video files! The only ones I have got working are ones I ran through a special converter program. That is really unacceptable.
The camera is great and I love its speed.
Boot up is very slow and you don't even get a cool animation to watch! No light bleed on my unit.
All in All I like the tablet and am hoping ICS will solve some of the issues
1, how do i test my gps? I opened Maps and it was fairly accurate and quick, is that it?
2, how did you get a video on there to try it?
3, i find tons of apps i had on my phone, look like crap on the tablet. But the real bummer is that there arent many "Tablet" apps yet! WTF??
I voted early in this poll and have since discovered that the gps is worthless from a practical standpoint. I wish I could change my vote to below expectations and having gps issues.
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To test GPS be sure to turn off the google location services first because Maps can use that to find your approximate location also. Actually the best way is to download an App like GPS test which will tell you how many GPS satellites it found and whether the tablet has "locked" GPS signal.
In the car I plan to tether my tablet to my cellphone and then let my wife use the nice big tablet screen to do navigation and finding restaurants and gas stations with.
So far I haven't got that working. (Firmware updates didn't help)
I have a LARGE collection of videos movies etc. I just connect the tablet to my computer and drag over the files to the Movies directory on the phone. Then they are ready to play (except that they don't!) This is a critical issue for me because we want to bring the tablet to our vegas place (which doesn't have cable) and connect it to our HD TV and watch movies that way.
BTW if you really want to be impressed by the Primes screen get the "Project M" App.
It reacts to any music you play on the device creating fantastic graphical patterns.
Be warned, it will suck your brain in and you may spend the next few hours hypnotically staring at the screen!
@rsarno
That is what happened to me also. Assuming you have turned on "Use GPS satellites" in the settings, you should be able to start up GPS test, put it outside where it can find signals easily and after a few minutes(<12) you should see satellite info popping up and the lock light turning on.
In my case, I left it outside for about 30 min. It found 2 satellites after about 10 min then those two went away and nothing happened after that. then, after I loaded the GPS essentials program (someone on a forum mentioned it loaded extra positioning software) I finally started finding satellites. Good luck,
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I received my Prime at 1:55 pm today (ordered from Best Buy on Dec. 23 evening). I am impressed so far. No damage, no screen bleed & no dead pixels. The battery is charging fast (it arrived at 23% and is at 95% already at 4:20 pm). Wifi & GPS are OK.
The only hitch is when it prompted me to log on in Gmail (the onboard app), it won't allow me. The reason is that I have a Google Authenticator, for extra security, on my account. I went to my google account and it generated a special code for me to input in my prime and it worked. The sound is phenomenal. I used my Sony in-ear megabass earphones. I will wait for 100% charge before I start loading up on apps.
A very happy camper here!
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I have a LARGE collection of videos movies etc. I just connect the tablet to my computer and drag over the files to the Movies directory on the phone. Then they are ready to play (except that they don't!) This is a critical issue for me because we want to bring the tablet to our vegas place (which doesn't have cable) and connect it to our HD TV and watch movies that way.
could be the codec of the movies. while not saved to my prime, i have 31.5gb of movies on a microSD card in the tablet right now and they all play fine. i couldn't tell you what format that i ripped them to originally, but it was a fairly small file size as i did this originally for my laptop for when i travel.
I am not able to pick up a wifi signal in a room that I am able to pick it up on my HP computer. I bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab and downloaded Wifi Signal app on both. Samsung Galaxy Tab significantly picks up better signal and more networks than Asus Transformer Prime. Going to return Prime. Not sure if I will get another one since they are so scarce or switch to Galaxy. Anyone else having this issue?
@addcohen
Thanks for the App tip, I downloaded the WIFI analyzer on the prime and a Galaxy Nexus Walked all over the house. The galaxy was slightly better than the prime but not by much. I assume that means I got one of the good tablets. I wish you could easily get another one so you could compare.
Good luck.
I have a Gray unit from Best Buy and a Champagne unit from Abt Electronics. The Gray has minor light bleed and a rattle near one of the dock connectors. Otherwise it works well. The Champagne has no issues other than wonky haptic feedback (works intermittently at best, otherwise just makes a quacking sound).
I'll probably keep the Champagne unit and just turn off haptic feedback (although it still tries to work even when turned off when adjusting items on the home page and when selecting images in the Gallery, at least). That is, unless Best Buy gets some units in-store that I can try out to see if I can get an absolutely perfect unit.
Otherwise, I love the Prime. The screen is simply outstanding--great colors, incredible viewing angles (I can watch video almost on the horizontal), and of course outstanding brightness. I can use it outside in the direct SoCal sun, which is exactly what I wanted. I did a quick video that kind of shows the difference (
) between the Prime and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and original Transformer. I'm very impressed at how much better the Prime's screen is than the GT 10.1 in particular. Oh, and if anyone can explain the sync thing on the Prime, please chime in--it's weird, but I do notice absolutely no issues whatsoever outside of this video.
Performance is stellar. Build quality is good (other than the wonky vibrator). Wifi is weaker than some of my other devices but still entirely usable everywhere I need it to be. GPS works, although I haven't tried it in my car yet. Battery life is excellent. Overall, it's a great tablet and still $100 less than the equivalent iPad 2. Once I have the dock, my original Transformer will be going on eBay.
I think that ASUS really need to clean up production and fix some component issues (even in the Gray unit where haptic feedback "works," it's so weak as to be pretty much useless). Once they get things ironed out, I think they have a winner.
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I received my 32GB champagne Prime yesterday, part of the second wave of shipments from Amazon (ordered on 11/22). Overall, I am very pleased with the build and performance of the machine, and have none of the issues some others have noted; no light bleed, no dead/stuck pixels, no FC's etc. Regarding the GPS: I turned wifi off, stepped outside in full view of the open sky, turned on "GPS Essentials" (free download in the Market), and selected "satellites" from the menu; within less than one minute, there were 12 satellites in view, and I had locked on to 6 of them. This varied as satellites came into and out of view on my screen, so my GPS seems to be working, at least from a static position. I have not tried to use it for navigation, but I was never interested in that usage in the first place; I have a Garmin for that. I hope this helps someone else in testing their Prime.
Loved the transformer but just returned it. I really wanted to use it in my car as a GPS device. My wife was excited about using it as a Navigator and Point of interest finder while I did the driving. The big screen would make the experience much easier than looking at a tiny cell phone screen. Unfortunately,
ASUS screwed up the design of the unit and the metal backing blocks the GPS signals.
When I was in Vegas last week the Prime kept insisting we were in Ohio!
I think if you are paying premium prices for a tablet, everything should work on it.
So I returned it. The good news is that ASUS will have a new unit out in 2nd quarter that will have a plastic back. This will eliminate the GPS and WI-Fi issues. I will repurchase it then.
Other problems: Every video I've tried from my collection. (movies TV shows etc) had to be converted to a special format in order to play on the Prime. My PC can play dozens of formats why can't the Prime?
Other problems: Every video I've tried from my collection. (movies TV shows etc) had to be converted to a special format in order to play on the Prime. My PC can play dozens of formats why can't the Prime?
Had that same problem before ICS, so I go MX video player, and it was perfect. After ICS, I no longer need it so far, it's been playing my .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 videos wonderfully (I make a lotta videos, so this is actually a very high priority for me).
Anyway, I'm sticking with it, I need it now, and it is performing amazingly with ICS, I cannot believe the difference! The keyboard is also such a huge plus!
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Got mine yesterday and SO wanted to love it - but it's going back. Sitting 2 feet from my wireless router it can't keep a connection. And when it does it can not seem to get to a website reliably with either the stock browser or Dolphin. I am sitting next to someone using a TAB and they get get to the same sites that my prime tells me is not available. Sigh...
I am very satisfied. I bought Prime for my foremost personal intention. They are for web browsing using apps especially for news. For watching movies, listening to my music collection, reading books, collecting songs with guitar chords, using Google maps to prepare for my travels, accessing gmail and running other specialty apps. I love Prime for its ultra-portability.
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Had that same problem before ICS, so I go MX video player, and it was perfect. After ICS, I no longer need it so far, it's been playing my .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 videos wonderfully (I make a lotta videos, so this is actually a very high priority for me).
Anyway, I'm sticking with it, I need it now, and it is performing amazingly with ICS, I cannot believe the difference! The keyboard is also such a huge plus!
Quick question: Anyone know how I could go about getting my wired xbox 360 controllers to work with mupen64plus or n64oid?
+1 for MX Video Player. I still prefer it, even after the ICS upgrade, just because the videos play with a greater clarity. Outstanding product, and just a few bucks to support the developer with the Pro version. Or you can do free with banner ads.
Also, I was playing some of my music ripped from my CD's the other night, post ICS upgrade, and using the stock music player. All of a sudden the screen just flaked out, where everything was faded with lines running through it, really hard to describe. It was just music too, not video. I closed the program and reopened, and same thing. I moved to Doubletwist and everything played fine. After Doubletwist, I was able to use the stock player again. Thankfully we have third party options which sometimes do perform better than what is included!
How satisfied are you with your Prime?
