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Old January 9th, 2012, 03:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well this is certainly interesting. They've unveiled another TF except this time it's going to have a plastic window to boost reception and of course the much higher-res display. Since I couldn't order the Prime, I think I'll hold out for this one. What about you guys?

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My wife just got her prime last week and she's extremely happy with it, and I'm happy with it as well. The higher res screen would be nice, but I'm wouldn't want to wait until Q2 to get it. Plus the added price isn't too appealing either. Maybe if it comes down in price I'll pick one up.
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I could care less about the gps, how is your wifi reception? My prime just shipped, not sure if I should keep it or not. If wifi is good, I will be happy with it.

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My wife just got her prime last week and she's extremely happy with it, and I'm happy with it as well. The higher res screen would be nice, but I'm wouldn't want to wait until Q2 to get it. Plus the added price isn't too appealing either. Maybe if it comes down in price I'll pick one up.
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My wifi seems to work well enough everywhere I tried it, but I didn't compare it to anything. The GPS is a big problem though. I posted another thread about how one might use their cell phone as an external bluetooth GPS.

The resolution is already very nice, but more is better I guess, but not worth the wait and another $100.00.
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I could care less about the gps, how is your wifi reception? My prime just shipped, not sure if I should keep it or not. If wifi is good, I will be happy with it.
Wifi has been pretty solid. Of course, I've got one of those Linksys 802.11g routers that has insane range, but even at coffee shops and at work the wifi is solid and dependable. Now that I think about it, I'll try to snag it from my wife tonight and install the Wifi Analyzer and get some hard numbers for you to compare with.
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Wifi has been pretty solid. Of course, I've got one of those Linksys 802.11g routers that has insane range, but even at coffee shops and at work the wifi is solid and dependable. Now that I think about it, I'll try to snag it from my wife tonight and install the Wifi Analyzer and get some hard numbers for you to compare with.
Ran a very unscientific test and found that my Galaxy Nexus consistently got about 5-7 dBm better reception than the Transformer Prime. Not bad, but not great. Overall it was very close but the Galaxy Nexus definitely got better reception in the same exact place.
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I'd just like to say that Wifi has improved IMMENSELY with the ICS update if anyone is interested. I have 0 problems with Wifi, and to be honest, I'm not having much trouble with GPS either. The only annoying thing is first establishing a connection after you reboot. Other than that, it hasn't been great, but not unusable. Definitely not worth an extra $100 folks.
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The window is speculative, no one knows for sure just exactly how they are going to correct the issue caused by the all metal backing of the TP. For all we know they may attach something to the back and make the whole back end the antenna. Nah.....that would make things worse.
Any way, we will have to wait till pictures of the new Prime come out or until it hits the shelves.
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I don't think the extra 100 bucks is just for the GPS issue at all. It's for the major upgraded high definition beautiful screen which I'm going to hold out for.
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From the what I have read the upgrade to the TF700T screen was done to make it comparable to the I Pad 3 that is due out in the next few months.
No one knows what the specs are on the IP3 as yet.
As for other Android tablets I don't think there is anything that matches the TF700T.
Comparisons would be near apples to oranges.
What would be nice is if there was a sight that could to the side by side tablet comparisons like PhoneArenas side by side phone comparisons.
And seriously... I With the news of all the new low cost 9.7 and 10.1 inch tablets this year. With specs looking better than average with each new one. I Companies like Motorola, Samsung etc are going to have to do a few things.
Either lower their prices to sell what they have or up the anti on newer tablets to stay competitive with the TF700T specs and price.
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The window is speculative, no one knows for sure just exactly how they are going to correct the issue caused by the all metal backing of the TP. For all we know they may attach something to the back and make the whole back end the antenna. Nah.....that would make things worse.
Any way, we will have to wait till pictures of the new Prime come out or until it hits the shelves.
Uh...it's not really speculative.
ASUS Eee Pad MeMO ME171, ME370T and high-end Transformer Prime TF700T revealed -- Engadget
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we've been informed that this new Prime will come with a new back panel design (pictured after the break) that should enhance WiFi, BT and GPS performance.
And there have been pictures since the announcement...
ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF700T hands-on - Engadget Galleries
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Where is the window? These pictures prove my statement. The fix could have been a window, and I saw a post or article where someone said that that might be what they were going to do to better the signal to the antennas, but it was speculation. In these pictures there are no windows.
Looking at the TFP here

we see the original back.
Here the TF700F appears without the Asus name on the metal unibody but on the plastic strip? the antennas are probably at the top near the camera, replacing the material there opens the unit back up to the outside and better signals.



They cut about 3/4 if an inch off the top of the unibody and replaces it with plastic or another material that will not impair the signal. While this does the job it is not a window.
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Oh, you were thinking a transparent window? The plastic strip is the "window" that allows signals to pass through it...unlike the all-metal back. A "window" for signals does not have to be transparent.
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Not thinking transparent. The word window put to mind for me something that is rectangular in shape.
That is more a bar or strip used to open up the unibody, If you wish to call it a window, guhead.
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That's a strip if I ever saw one.
Any word yet on possible accessory's
Hard case for keyboard and and screen with foam.
Something that can be opened up and have device in lid section with keyboard in bottom, connected by USB cable. Weather tight of course.
Now that I would buy.

I'm really intrested in this device. Assumlng it gets a hard plastic top shell.
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Great pictures and links. I just got my prime and so far so good. What struck me here is that if they are potentially only modifying the back plate to improve the product, could they not offer that to prime users? I would understand it if they had to re-engineer the 'guts' but if the change is as cosmetic as it appears, bring it on!

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From what I have read on other forums, Asus has started shipping new TFP 201s with a new unibody. This does not help those that already have a TFP or a for those who purchase the units that were shipped before the change. I have also read that if you want your unit fixed.. You can call in to Asus and file a warranty claim, you will have to ship your tablet to them and they will fix it.
Again, I this is only what I have read. If you have a current model you will have to call them to be sure.
Also the new back shown in the picture. Is for the up coming TF700F and it has much more in store than just a new unibody.
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Will the 201 have a functional GPS now?
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My wife just got her prime last week and she's extremely happy with it, and I'm happy with it as well. The higher res screen would be nice, but I'm wouldn't want to wait until Q2 to get it. Plus the added price isn't too appealing either. Maybe if it comes down in price I'll pick one up.
I agree. Now rather than 6months time please!
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From what I have read on other forums, Asus has started shipping new TFP 201s with a new unibody. This does not help those that already have a TFP or a for those who purchase the units that were shipped before the change. I have also read that if you want your unit fixed.. You can call in to Asus and file a warranty claim, you will have to ship your tablet to them and they will fix it.
Again, I this is only what I have read. If you have a current model you will have to call them to be sure.
Also the new back shown in the picture. Is for the up coming TF700F and it has much more in store than just a new unibody.
I haven't seen this story. From reading ASUS statements I don't believe this to be the case. Cheers C
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Not saying I'm right or the comments on the other forum are correct. However I believe they are doing this since they have a fix for the TF201 if you make a warranty claim and ship your tablet to them.
Since they have a fix which would have to be a modified unibody of some kind, and it only makes sense that they would use that same thing on the current production line for the 201s, correcting the problem and eliminating future warranty claims, saving them big bucks down the immediate road.
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Merged thread as it was more of a comparison between the TF201 and the TF700T
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My week old prime is working almost perfectly. WIFI is just as good as my laptop and phones, GPS, while not as good as my phone, (sees less satellites and takes longer to lock) works well enough that I can use Navigon in my car with no problems. My dolphin browser does crash occasionally but after a week of testing and using that is really the only think I noticed. No other issues....Knock on wood...

I find that 700 back ugly compares to the 201 and personally I dont really want higher resolution on a 10" screen. Especially since most of the android apps are up stretched for tablets.

If the 700 gets glowing reviews and seems like it blows the 201 away then I might just sell the 201 for a slight loss and get the 700.... we will see...
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You can call in to Asus and file a warranty claim, you will have to ship your tablet to them and they will fix it
The problem I have is what is the "fix" that they will do? I can totally see a company taking the unit in, adding a firmware update or maybe going so far as to replace the wireless radios, testing it to ensure it transmits then sending it back with the EXACT SAME PROBLEM (wifi range sucks) calling it "fixed".

I say this because this is a design flaw, not an anomally in production that produced defective units within the line.

I called ASUS support when I first got my prime, they told me "send it in, we'll fix it" but couldn't say at all what they would do to fix it. If they said "we would replace the back panel with one with a plastic strip on top" I would have sent it in for the repair and been perfectly happy with it. It's because they couldn't tell me what the repair would be combined with it likely taking longer than I had in a return window to get it done that caused me to return all THREE that I had (all of which couldn't get a wifi signal to save it's ass).

When the problem is a design flaw, it's very evident and being talked about on all the forums, you'd figure if their "fix" was to replace the back panel with one with a plastic strip over the antennas then they would tell their support people to tell people that so they would know it would REALLY be fixed. What's so damn tough about that?

If anyone did send it in for that "fix" and got it back with a new back panel with a plastic strip please let us know, I would gladly get it again and send it in rather than wait for the TF700 and pay an extra $100.
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I guess the consensus is to now wait for the 700T vs buying 201 now?

I had planned on buying the original, but after months of thinking/waiting decided WTH, get the Prime. Upon delving into the Prime reviews, the WIFI issues have almost scared me off. If the 700 is the one to get, I figure I can wait a little longer.

Though after finally deciding, and actually ready to buy, now waiting possible another 3 months is frustrating...
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I guess the consensus is to now wait for the 700T vs buying 201 now?

I had planned on buying the original, but after months of thinking/waiting decided WTH, get the Prime. Upon delving into the Prime reviews, the WIFI issues have almost scared me off. If the 700 is the one to get, I figure I can wait a little longer.

Though after finally deciding, and actually ready to buy, now waiting possible another 3 months is frustrating...
I decided not to wait and ordered the 201. Most people don't seem to have an issue with wifi, so I'll roll the dice.
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I just received and returned a 201 this week. Will hold off and wait for the Infinity.

The unit I received through Amazon after a three-week wait had major light bleed along three sides, and lost wifi connection one room away from the router, where my EVO 3D still pulls between 5 and 7 mbps.
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I just received and returned a 201 this week. Will hold off and wait for the Infinity.

The unit I received through Amazon after a three-week wait had major light bleed along three sides, and lost wifi connection one room away from the router, where my EVO 3D still pulls between 5 and 7 mbps.
Read to many posts likes this one, guess I'll get the new iPad
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People don't come on forums to post about how they got something and everything works fine. So, what you see is heavily skewed towards the negative.

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IMO patience is a virtue. I've made it through the past 3 months seamlessly patiently waiting for the Infinity and I see no reason why I can't make it another 3. You wont see me selling my soul to overpriced apple crap.
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I ordered two TFP's yesterday, one for me and the other a BD gift for a friend. I was going to hold mine back and wait for the 700 but I've been reading articles on the "New iPad" and the dilemma on the magazine/book resolution and file sizes. The fonts in the on line magazines are stretched out causing them too distort and forcing the providers too come up with two screen resolutions for each. I also am not a fan of the new 700 back....it looks like a step back in style! I will stay with the current model....for this year
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That's kind of an open ended question, isn't it? Maybe you could elaborate? Curiosity has got the better of me.
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Do we have anything to look forward to or should I dust off my slate and chisel?

Or do I just get something a little more advanced like the Toshiba Excite?
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I'm going to hang in there. Although if someone comes up with a 10-11 inch laptop with WiFi, 4G LTE, video chat and the ability to make voice calls, I would be all over it.
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Can anyone confirm that the T700 will also be available in a 3G/4G version?
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It really is getting annoying waiting for this. Surely Asus must be planning on an announcement soon?
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Hey guys Im Making a video about the IPAD 3 and its biggest competitor the Transformer Pad Infinity 700, So i put together a list about each device and what it does better then the other. I don't want any Fanyboy comments lets keep this about the facts (if i have missed something out plz let me know)
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Transformer Pad Infinity 700 (Wifi)

Thinner
Lighter
Bigger screen
Super IPS (higher brightness and less sunlight reflection
Gorilla Glass 2 (thinner, less reflection, more responsive)
microSD, up to 32 GB
Wi-Fi Direct,
8 MP
LED flash
Stereo speakers
Secondary Camera, 2 MP
Faster CPU (Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A9)
GPS
Adobe Flash
Official mobile dock (increases Battery Life, USB Ports)
Plug and play (connect USB peripherals such as game controllers, external hard drives, digital cameras)
Better notification system
True Multitasking
Heavy Customization
Better Google Integration (Google Search, Gmail, GoogleMusic, Crome ect)
Dedicated Back & Multi task buttons
HDMI port
More Free Apps

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face detection
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The Inifinity's camera should be the one with the higher resolution...unless ASUS downgrades it from the 8MP that the Prime has.
I wouldn't say that the iPad is cheaper until ASUS announces pricing for the Infinity.
I'm not sure that "more apps" is correct. It may be correct that there are more apps designed specifically for the iPad, but on Android, many of the apps have both phone and tablet designs in one app. So I think the numbers are misleading. Also, Android has far more FREE apps.

Also, a coworker brought in his iPad...I was thoroughly unimpressed. I didn't see what was so great about the screen. It was much heavier than the Prime and it was just boring. Woo-hoo...a screen full of icons.
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The Inifinity's camera should be the one with the higher resolution...unless ASUS downgrades it from the 8MP that the Prime has.
I wouldn't say that the iPad is cheaper until ASUS announces pricing for the Infinity.
I'm not sure that "more apps" is correct. It may be correct that there are more apps designed specifically for the iPad, but on Android, many of the apps have both phone and tablet designs in one app. So I think the numbers are misleading. Also, Android has far more FREE apps.

Also, a coworker brought in his iPad...I was thoroughly unimpressed. I didn't see what was so great about the screen. It was much heavier than the Prime and it was just boring. Woo-hoo...a screen full of icons.

finally an Transformer fan so far were ever iv posted this iv been attacked by ipad fans, but honestly id say this is the fairest comparison you'll ever see of the 2
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I'm all for comparisons between the 2 but I believe this should probable be in the infinity thread.


But anyway, its nice to see a comparison list that's nice and concise but can I offer up a couple of suggestions.

As has been mentioned, Ipad being cheaper should probably wait until we know the official Infinity price.
MicroHDMI port, not HDMI port on the ASUS.
May want to clarify what a Back-illuminated sensor is on the ipad (I know i wasn't sure when i first read it).

Also maybe edit the layout so its not just a wedge of text. I suggest bullet points, maybe underlining the Headers for the products. Only saying this as I actually missed some of the points on my first scan through and was about to post a few things you had missed, but hadn't.

Anything that can help people make up their mind has to be a good thing.
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Benchmarks (by actual owners): Just released Acer A700 vs. just released (in Switzerland) Asus Infinity


Acer A700


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Pictures of the Infinity screen compared to Samsung F2380m, Motorola Razr, Motorola Xoom
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If you didn't follow the Google IO keynote presentation today, you missed the introduction of the Nexus 7, the anticipated pure-android tablet made by ASUS. Priced at $199, it's set to directly compete with the hot-selling Kindle Fire, which is as far from an Android device it can be while technically still being an Android. But with the Nexus 7, your media can come from Amazon's app store OR all the new offerings being pushed by google via their Play store.

I'm seeing a lot of people pre-ordering the Nexus 7, and I wonder what everyone here is planning to do...

Personally, I prefer the larger screen size and the higher pixel density of the Transformer Infinity. And since ASUS is awesome about not bloating Android with a manufacturer overlay, it means that we'll get a pretty vanilla experience as well as fast updates. Jelly Bean would be right around the corner. So I'd have no problem forking over an extra $300 for the Infinity, except....

Nexus Q. This thing looks very awesome, and it's $300. So I could spend $500 and get a Transformer Infinity, or I could spend $500 and get a Nexus 7 and the Nexus Q.

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To me, there's no comparison and I like everything Google does BUT
I'm just waiting for Amazon to offer pre-sales on the Infinity.
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I prefer the larger 10" Tablet size and if money was no object I would choose the Transformer Infinity. If I was on a budget then I would definitely go for the Nexus 7. They're both nice looking devices IMHO

For me, I am kind of thinking I could either get a Transformer Infinity and share it with my Wife or for the same price I could buy two Nexus 7 and we could each have our own =)

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I've been waiting for the Infinity, but I pre-ordered the Nexus yesterday.

7" is fine for me for reading and email, etc, and I'm looking forward to Jelly Bean and getting Google OS updates a helluva lot faster than my T-mo Galaxy S2.

For games and movies I want something even bigger than 10". Whoever comes out with a quality 14" tablet will get my money next.
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I've been looking around and can't find an answer - does anyone know if this thing will have full OTG support? so you can plug in a usb stick etc ?

Given the dock has a full size USB port I presume the answer is yes?
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I prefer the larger 10" Tablet size and if money was no object I would choose the Transformer Infinity. If I was on a budget then I would definitely go for the Nexus 7. They're both nice looking devices IMHO

For me, I am kind of thinking I could either get a Transformer Infinity and share it with my Wife or for the same price I could buy two Nexus 7 and we could each have our own =)

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This is exactly where I'm at.

I'm debating between this and ordering the Nexus 7.

Problem is I don't want just a media consumption device, but my wife does.
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32 GB gray available from several on-line retailers.
However, Amazon is quoting 1-2 months.
I'm waiting for the Champagne.
In the meantime, I bought the 300T for my daughter (college student) in blue for her birthday.
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I want something now, everywhere I see they are all sold out of the blue. 2 month wait, I don't want to wait. Is the TF300 still a good option if I needed one sonner than later? Or should I just wait and see when more gets in stock?
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