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Old December 31st, 2012, 12:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello! I am 15 and i have gotten my first car as a gift... The catch is the engine is seized. No problem I say I'll pull it out and rebuild it! So to give some background information, the enging seized and the car is a 1996 Dodge avenger and the particular engine is a DOHC 2.0 L 420A I4 (Same as a neon) and it has the stock manual 5 speed in it, the chasis, transmision, and the engine have roughly 200,000 miles on them. Also I BELIEVE the main crank bearings blew. So I have been saving for the past 6 months and I am at a grand totall of $890 with at least another $150 coming in january. I am asking you guys or help. I plan on beefing the engine up with the transmission being able to support it. I also plan to redo the suspension. Now do you fellas have any advice for parts [Or manufacturers] I would like to get a high preformance cylinders, cylinder head, exhaust manifold, intake manifold, and exhaust systems, (I know I cant afford all )I own the required tools to rebalance the engine and to check compresion as my grandfather built drag racing engines and when he died my father enhareted all of his tools.

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Already having a complete set of tools is half the battle when you're doing it yourself. My own requirements are V-8 (or greater) so I don't know anything about fixing up an I-4 car. Good luck though.
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Already having a complete set of tools is half the battle when you're doing it yourself. My own requirements are V-8 (or greater) so I don't know anything about fixing up an I-4 car. Good luck though.
Thank you! I am planing on re-balancing the engine as well as de-glazing the cylinders,
And yes, I am fortunate enough to have 3 full tool cabinets and a 100gl air compressor with a set of air wrenches/tools.

I am only experienced on V8s as well (just three) my first complete rebuild and actually my only one was when I was helping my dad fix our '68 vette, 427ci Chevrolet engine, but that happened about 8 years ago, second most experience on has been a 3.9 liter v8 of my dads ls, then the '69 Chevrolet c10 pickups small block v8 which I have had minimal experience working on (changing out belts and clearing a carb)
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And yes, I am fortunate enough to have 3 full tool cabinets and a 100gl air compressor with a set of air wrenches/tools.
Add a shop manual. And remember, Google is your friend. Good luck.
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Thank you to you as well! Shop manual, hmm good Idea haha that's one thing I would NOT have guessed haha, but I will have to dig around for it, might go over my dads chasis engineering book, probably wont need it except if I do end up messing with the suspension as im trying to get the old girl into sports... sports tires haha might be difficult with a $900 budget, but I think it will be a fun first car after I'm finished ... fun haha
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It may be obvious but....
protective gloves are a good idea.
label everythng as you dismantle it (and photograph the process as well). Makes re-assembly MUCH easier when you know what goes where and can actually find it.
For some cheap extra power, a good free-flow exhaust/Manifold system is hard to beat. I had ine on my 1973 Triumph Dolomite (1850cc very compact car) and gained 10% power and an extra 6MPG _ 36, up from 30. Just from letting the engine breathe properly.
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It may be obvious but....
protective gloves are a good idea.
label everythng as you dismantle it (and photograph the process as well). Makes re-assembly MUCH easier when you know what goes where and can actually find it.
For some cheap extra power, a good free-flow exhaust/Manifold system is hard to beat. I had ine on my 1973 Triumph Dolomite (1850cc very compact car) and gained 10% power and an extra 6MPG _ 36, up from 30. Just from letting the engine breathe properly.
I DO have a magnaflow muffler, and I always planned on putting proper exhaust in but its difficult to find a manufacturer/ dealer with proper headers/pipes that were designed to be installed on a '96 Dodge avenger. Albeit my dad is an industrial and mechanical engineer and have access to good bending equipment I am taking an engineering class as well soo it would be simple enough to MAKE one... but that doesn't guarantee a performance exhaust.
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From a fellow tuner I would have to first ask what are your intentions with the car? My advice to new drivers is save on the mods, just make the car reliable and safe and spend your money on driver's education events. You'll get WAAAAAAY more for your money in the form of knowledge and experience. Start with some teen driving schools then upgrade to HPDE (high performance drivers education). Going this route will do a lot for you by imbibing in you better car control and a good look at what the car needs. Now don't get me wrong, modifying a car is fun but you get better bang for your buck once you find the weaknesses and address them first. Good luck!
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Right on, chknhwk! HPDE should be the norm, not the exception IMO! Although HPDE wasn't really a concept when I took driver's ed., our instructors did allow the more advanced students do things like spin-outs and panic stops to get the feel for how cars behave at and beyond their limits. (This was long before electronic controls; not even ABS.) Although not a lot of my teenage peers could successfully use something like opposite lock steering, or resist the urge to panic and continue to drive the car when something exceptional happened, those of us who did had a real edge.

Good "bang for the buck" advice too! IME, mods that were the best bang for the buck in one model year can be a lot of wasted effort in other model years. That's one of the reasons why I only buy cars with plenty of aftermarket parts support, and a large enthusiast community for that exact make and model.

As an example, one model of car that was well known to respond well to swapping in full length tubular headers to replace the factory "shorty" headers was the biggest bang for the buck mod. But the same model with the new style motors went back to cast iron "log" manifolds. Thanks to the collective experience of the community, I didn't waste my time and money on headers (that were a tough install for a lot less gains than before) and spent my money on a 3.73 final drive (giving more grunt to the smaller displacement motors) and a computer tune. I never would have figured that out on my own!

If you have a speed shop with a chassis dyno nearby, that's the best way to do a computer tune (something you'll want to do on any EFI motor), and a great way to measure just how efficacious other mods really are.
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From a fellow tuner I would have to first ask what are your intentions with the car? My advice to new drivers is save on the mods, just make the car reliable and safe and spend your money on driver's education events. You'll get WAAAAAAY more for your money in the form of knowledge and experience. Start with some teen driving schools then upgrade to HPDE (high performance drivers education). Going this route will do a lot for you by imbibing in you better car control and a good look at what the car needs. Now don't get me wrong, modifying a car is fun but you get better bang for your buck once you find the weaknesses and address them first. Good luck!
Thanks, I didnt even think about that. I have decided last week that I will NOT be upgrading the engine... yet... I Have found things that NEED worked on... The roof LEAKS... NOO!!!!! Went out to take some pictures after a rain... Looked down in the back and saw a puddle... Crap... So after I fix the roof... hopefully there is no chassis damage (steel under the back floor) because if there is im screwed, I have 3 acetylene welders but dont quite know how to use them... so I have decided that I will upgrade the motor the original way (Balancing only) Up to the point where I have enough money to purchase and install the parts. But we will see. And here are the pictures of the car https://picasaweb.google.com/111707120409569360721/Avenger?authuser=0&feat=directlink
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Nice pics! It looks like you have 9/10ths of what could be a good-looking, reliable and decent performing road car that's within a reasonable budget.

Knowing what I know now, I'd find the cheapest way to get the motor running and the car on the road. If your motor's bottom end is seized, or if water in the cylinders caused hydro-lock, you might be better off dropping the entire engine/transaxle assembly and replacing the whole thing with one from a wrecked car in a junkyard. Just make sure that the yard guarantees the parts to be in working condition before you buy!

As far as the leak goes, I hope that you have a sunroof, bad side window seals or something other than the bodywork that's causing the leak. Something that a new set of seals will fix. A car of that age shouldn't have holes in the sheet metal. If it is rusted away that much, you could be better off selling the whole car for scrap, and looking for a better project car. Don't become too attached to the thing.

Don't know how to weld? Get some scrap steel and practice. Oxy-actelyne welding isn't very popular these days, now that electric arc welding (including MIG and TIG) have become affordable. But if gas welders are all you have, you might as well use them. A good first project is to build your own rear strut brace. Stuff like that can help handling, and the raw materials are cheap enough that you can toss them and start over if you make a major mistake.

Another thing you can do to get free horsepower is to do a little grinding and polishing of the intake manifold to improve air flow. You can also dress up the engine compartment with polished metal intake tubing and a K&N air filter to replace that ugly air box. You can buy intake kits with various pre-made elbow bends. All you need to do is mock it up, take measurements, cut the tubing as needed and use silicone rubber sleeves to join the plumbing. You can build your own sheet metal heat shield and brackets to separate the air inlet from the rest of the engine compartment (an ideal thing for oxy-actelyne cutting and welding). Since this costs next to nothing and makes use of the tools you have, it's good practice that doesn't keep the car out of commission for days or weeks.
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UPDATE: Got over $1000 saved up and am just waiting for the weather to warm up, looks like im going to be working on two engines this summer, 3.9 L v8 from my dads 2000 lincoln ls... and my cars 420A I4... this is gonna be a nice summer

EDIT: too bad my pap doesnt want a 2L inline four in his car xD haha I would gladly take his jaguar engine xD
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UPDATE: Got over $1000 saved up and am just waiting for the weather to warm up, looks like im going to be working on two engines this summer, 3.9 L v8 from my dads 2000 lincoln ls... and my cars 420A I4... this is gonna be a nice summer

EDIT: too bad my pap doesnt want a 2L inline four in his car xD haha I would gladly take his jaguar engine xD
I'd say save this money for your future car, in few years you are going to want something better. This one is pretty old and you are not going to pull too much out of it. I'd go for cold air intake and that's it. All the money you are going to invest in this car are going to go down the drain, people are not willing to pay much for extra modifications on the car, if you are planning to sell it in the future. Save some cash, build your credit history and get a better ride at the age of 18. Good luck.
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EDIT: too bad my pap doesnt want a 2L inline four in his car xD haha I would gladly take his jaguar engine xD
Sounds like fun getting to work on the AJ motor regardless!

I saw on TV a Ford Focus that had been completely rebuilt with a small block (pushrod) Ford motor and RWD drivetrain. Needless to say, it was a lot of work not only buliding it, but getting it licensed for the road!
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Don't waste your time. Get yourself a 2.4 from a Breeze or Stratus and beef that up. Or if you can find one cheap, get a wrecked, preferably rear end, SRT-4 and do a total swap. It's almost a complate swap, you will need a couple of fab'd parts from MPX though. Or you can do what I was gonna do to my Neon and supercharge that bitch!
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Don't underestimate the Chrysler 420A engine. I have a 1996 Eagle Talon that has the same motor and I'll take it over the 2.4 any day since the 420A has DOHC and the 2.4 is just SOHC. Given the opportunity though, I'd say throw the 420 out and get the SRT4 motor although I'm not sure if they had those in 96. As for some performance upgrades, a good set of exhaust headers and a cold air intake will help it. Don't get a short ram intake because there is too much heat under the hood. Prothane motor mounts are a good upgrade from the stock rubber mounts and at a fairly cheap price. I picked mine up for $80 for all four mounts. If you're more for enjoying the ride than performance, go for Energy Suspension. Same thing just made with softer polyurethane.
Above all else, and without it everything else is irrelevant, invest in a factory service manual. I'm not talking a Haynes or Chilton. I mean the actual factory service manual.
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2.4 is much, much better than the 2.0. SOHC or not. You'll get more high end torque out of the 2.4 and is a tougher motor. And they only had the SRT-4 2003-2005. It will work but everything from the SRT-4 is needed (trans. ALL wiring, axles, guage cluster) it all has to be swapped over.
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I am also planning on poishing and porting the intakes
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Just noticed this looking back on this thread, please for the love of all that is holy, don't break those timing covers. I broke mine when I had to replace my head gaskets and it took me a full month to find a replacement.

A good information source for the engine is 2GNT.com
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[UPDATE]

Last weekend I cleaned out the two car garage, and washed out the engine compartment of the avenger, and washed the body. I then rolled it into the garage, and did a full inspection of the inside of the car, I have comitted to saving weight. With this in mind I have decided to strip the interior. I will pull out the backseats, flooring, sound deadener, roof lining, front seats (and replace them with sparco racing seats), ect. I will take it down to the steel. I have a budget of approx. $1100 to rebuild the engine. I took off the airbox, the WHOLE exhaust, the hood of course, and am working on the wiring an is that a b**ch), I also am going to buy headers and depending on how she sounds after the rebuild I MIGHT get a magnaflow muffler and NOT catalytic converter. Will keep you guys updated and will post pictures if you would like.
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Pictures would be sweet. It'd be interesting to see how that looks stripped out. With the catalyst, I'd check local regs first concerning emissions. Here in Florida, they've stopped checking emissions so toy can get away with a catalyst delete pipe, but some other areas toy may not be able to do so.
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Pictures would be sweet. It'd be interesting to see how that looks stripped out. With the catalyst, I'd check local regs first concerning emissions. Here in Florida, they've stopped checking emissions so toy can get away with a catalyst delete pipe, but some other areas toy may not be able to do so.
Im up here in good old ohio, I have full pictures of the interior now, and I have no problem with linking all my pictures after I am finished . ALSO does anybody know of a good rear intake 420A intake manifold? I say the OBX 420A intake but they seem to have a butt load of burs and seem to be made badly any suggestions?
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By all means, post pictures of the work in progress. Should be interesting.
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[UPDATE]

Engine is out and torn down. All that is left on the block are the cylinders, crank and oil pump, all else is off. The problem turned out to be a result of an improper head gasket job, there was either an oil passage blocked or the exhaust cams were not oiled when the engine shop put them back in. The exhaust cam ran approx. 10,000 miles without oil. This resulted in the cam being welded or melted onto the head. SOOO the whole head needs replaced. This brings a total of 2 HORRIBLE engine jobs done to my families car. The first was a replacement of my fathers 2000 Lincoln LS v8, half of the bolts in the engine compartment were never put back in, so there are random pipes going everywhere. Then with my avenger, we are going to the parts store tomorrow to get a puller for the oil pump so we can tear the engine to the block. I am keeping a daily diary of what we have done that day and will upload all the pictures when I can, thank you all and I will keep you up to date.
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Yes pics please! It'dbe mildly amusing to see what's left of that cam
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The cam wasnt that bad considering, the head where they rested was much much worse,and was melted past repair, unfortunately I did not take pictures of it, just the cam. Every thing else is in relatively good shape this week I am heading out to check out a junkyard head for $130, we will see if it is worth it.
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Its a good insurance policy to have a local machine shop check it out after you get it just in case. Most junk yards will have a 30 day return policy so if your shop says it isn't any good, you can go back and pull another one.
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Nice to see that you have taken apart the Dodge engine by yourself. I take great pleasure in repairing and servicing my car as well and I have been taking information off the internet to aid me on this. You may also check out automotix. net/autorepair/diy/dodge-avenger-repair.html which has exclusive Dodge Avenger manuals and repair guides. All described with diagrams for major overhauling and rebuilding. I haven't gone that deep yet though.
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Its not really that difficult with these engines considering. It can be quite an enjoyable experience if you're not pressed for time.
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Its not really that difficult with these engines considering. It can be quite an enjoyable experience if you're not pressed for time.
Agreed, but with this engine I have to say, they made the pluming of the engine unnecessarily complicated, it blows my mind seeing how they chose to place particular parts, not a problem since I will leave a lot of it out, just a pet peve.
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What sort of modifications are you planning on for the engine?
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What sort of modifications are you planning on for the engine?
Currently? I WILL strip almost all of the interior carpeting[approx 15-20 lb.], the front and rear seats and replace the driver and passenger seats with sparco racing seats [ approx. 100-120 lbs.], floor mats [approx. 6 lbs], I am removing the A/C condenser, and compressor [approx. 40 lb.] I am going to remove sound deadening, and probably more as I get into it, I am going to grab a stainless header, and larger pipes, higher profile cams (im thinking stage 2), I am THINKING about replacing the pistons for higher compression ratio, with that in mind I might beef up the valve springs, and will go general porting, polishing, and a SOLID cleaning, I will also installing an msd ignition coil pack, with msd plug wires, then lowering the car about an inch, I am contemplating removing weight from the edge of the flywheel closest to its moment of inertia, and I know I am forgetting things, so I will keep you all updated on how this is going and progress I have made, I am heading out in about 20 minutes to take a look at that new head.

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There's a few modifications that you have listed there that I'd actually recommend against. Granted I have an eagle talon, I'd actually recommend against the stripping of the interior just for the riding comfort. It actually does good for sound deadening, unless you're using this as a track car only, it'll drive you nuts. If its just to get up and go quicker on the road and still be a daily driver, don't do it. The work on the engine will be enough.
Depending on your location, leave the AC stuff in but don't put the belt on. You may be glad you left it.
Most of your engine mods sound good but I'd go with something other than the MSD coils. I've had my car for 3 years now and I'm on my forth one. The Super Conductor wires are nice and solid but the coils keep burning out on me and I've gone over everything and it all comes down to the coils.
If you're doing your flywheel, you might as well do the clutch too, and my transmission guy here (who is also a pro racer) says there isn't much that's better than Spec and they've got the whole package. www.specclutch.com
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There's a few modifications that you have listed there that I'd actually recommend against. Granted I have an eagle talon, I'd actually recommend against the stripping of the interior just for the riding comfort. It actually does good for sound deadening, unless you're using this as a track car only, it'll drive you nuts. If its just to get up and go quicker on the road and still be a daily driver, don't do it. The work on the engine will be enough.
Depending on your location, leave the AC stuff in but don't put the belt on. You may be glad you left it.
Most of your engine mods sound good but I'd go with something other than the MSD coils. I've had my car for 3 years now and I'm on my forth one. The Super Conductor wires are nice and solid but the coils keep burning out on me and I've gone over everything and it all comes down to the coils.
If you're doing your flywheel, you might as well do the clutch too, and my transmission guy here (who is also a pro racer) says there isn't much that's better than Spec and they've got the whole package. www.specclutch.com
I appreciate your input on leaving the interior in, and ac in, I am committed, being in northern Ohio, it doesnt normally get much above 90 and I prefer windows down, as for the sound I know how loud it will be (we have a 69 c/10 chevy with absolutely no sound deadener, and I love it) I saw that there are other ignition packs called Accel, I am not sure how well they work, I am going to look them up as soon as I post this.


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The new head looks NEW!!! Old head was rust red on the inside from 150,000 miles, the new head is still bronze. The cams are good (However they will be tossed.) All the valves look great, but will still be lapped and seated. I am honestly not sure about the flywheel lightening, since I am running the 5 speed manual the clutch and clutch components weigh 4x more than the flywheel, and I am not sure if a new, lighter, performance clutch will be in my budget, I will see when I am finished with all of this how much money I have left. Until next time, keep driving.
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Not a problem. I've heard that Accel is about par with the MSD but I've only heard positive about another one called the Screamin Demon. It does something like 45kV to the plugs and I'm planning on trying it out next time I change my coils which I imagine will be pretty soon. Lol.

Also, when I was on my computer I found the service manual for the engine that is all scanned into pdf if you (or anybody reading this) are interested. Just pm me and I'll shoot it off to you. No charge. Lol
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Not a problem. I've heard that Accel is about par with the MSD but I've only heard positive about another one called the Screamin Demon. It does something like 45kV to the plugs and I'm planning on trying it out next time I change my coils which I imagine will be pretty soon. Lol.

Also, when I was on my computer I found the service manual for the engine that is all scanned into pdf if you (or anybody reading this) are interested. Just pm me and I'll shoot it off to you. No charge. Lol
Thanks for the offer, but I have a full service manual already, and if you want I will try those screamin demon coils out, and see how they work. Also, if anyone wants a pair of stock 420A cams pm me and we can negotiate a price and I can get those to you, I would rather see them go to a good cause than to a junk yard. And speaking of computer, I am planning on cracking the ECU to raise the rev limiter, and more tiny tweeks, if anyone has experience on this that would be amazing! And if you ever need to find out something about your engine, check out "dsmtuners.com" they have an amazing forum section, I havent made an account on there because they seem to just deal with the the Eclipse. BUT if you have a question about possible engine troubles, check them out they have a surprisingly large 420A community.
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I would also recommend 2GNT.com. They're more for the non turbo 420A engines. Dsmtuners generally have more of a "just boost it"/"drop it and get a 4g63" attitude but 2gnt doesn't care how you treat your car as long as you do it right.

Can't believe I didn't think of that one sooner. Lol

As for the coils, that one is entirely up to you, but if you decide to go that way, it'll be cool to get another opinion on it.

And good luck with that ECU. I've opened up 3 non turbo ECUs and they're all filled with some kind of shock/water resistance gel. Let me know if your find am easy east to get that out.
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I would also recommend 2GNT.com. They're more for the non turbo 420A engines. Dsmtuners generally have more of a "just boost it"/"drop it and get a 4g63" attitude but 2gnt doesn't care how you treat your car as long as you do it right.

Can't believe I didn't think of that one sooner. Lol

As for the coils, that one is entirely up to you, but if you decide to go that way, it'll be cool to get another opinion on it.

And good luck with that ECU. I've opened up 3 non turbo ECUs and they're all filled with some kind of shock/water resistance gel. Let me know if your find am easy east to get that out.
I Imagine as long as it is disconnected you can wash it out with water (Sounds bad I know) but rinse and clean it out then put it in some rice for a few days, just like with a phone to get any and all water out of it, from then on you might be able to do what you need.
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Actually, if you get the gel out and want to clean it, use isopropyl alcohol. I use it for cleaning motherboards and video cards. By the time I get new thermal paste on and tighten all screws down, its all long evaporated and safe to plug in.

How's everything going for the engine so far?
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Actually, if you get the gel out and want to clean it, use isopropyl alcohol. I use it for cleaning motherboards and video cards. By the time I get new thermal paste on and tighten all screws down, its all long evaporated and safe to plug in.

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Very good idea, and since I am at my moms I havent worked on the engine in about a week, I have a feeling tomorrow will be a good work day, as I said before the new head which HAD to be replaced got replaced, the crankshaft will probably need regrinded just to stay on the safe side, I have been trying to work out a deal with a guy on an Avengers forum to obtain a turbo (albeit small) but I am just not sure how I am going to be able to fit the fuel pump, turbo, innjectors, new manifold, and more stuff in a 2 grand budget, I am not totally sure what all NEEDS replaced so until I am practically finished with the car I am not sure what I am going to do about it. Also with regards to the exhaust manifold, we decided to not go SS and to instead get a good old steel header which is ceramic coated, might or might not wrap it depending on how crazy I m feeling. I am anticipating over 200lbs of weight shed from the car before I am done with it, until then keep driving.
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Very good idea, and since I am at my moms I havent worked on the engine in about a week, I have a feeling tomorrow will be a good work day, as I said before the new head which HAD to be replaced got replaced, the crankshaft will probably need regrinded just to stay on the safe side, I have been trying to work out a deal with a guy on an Avengers forum to obtain a turbo (albeit small) but I am just not sure how I am going to be able to fit the fuel pump, turbo, innjectors, new manifold, and more stuff in a 2 grand budget, I am not totally sure what all NEEDS replaced so until I am practically finished with the car I am not sure what I am going to do about it. Also with regards to the exhaust manifold, we decided to not go SS and to instead get a good old steel header which is ceramic coated, might or might not wrap it depending on how crazy I m feeling. I am anticipating over 200lbs of weight shed from the car before I am done with it, until then keep driving.
You only really need to wrap if you're really concerned about your under hood temps. I have a 4-1 header on mine that came with the car and the only reason I wrapped was because of the short ram intake (don't get one) which is sucking up 120+ air temperature. Down from 130+ before wrap.
A small turbo would be preferable on a factory non turbo engine seeing as how it doesn't have the reinforcement that is found in the turbo motors. And you get quick spool times. Lol. I'd like to see how that runs. Also, make sure you get dished pistons for that so you don't blow out your motor. I'd hate to see all that hard work blow up in your face.
If you have it in your budget, get a full cold air intake and a proper exhaust system so your car can breathe better and you'll get more performance out of the work you're putting into the engine.
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You only really need to wrap if you're really concerned about your under hood temps. I have a 4-1 header on mine that came with the car and the only reason I wrapped was because of the short ram intake (don't get one) which is sucking up 120+ air temperature. Down from 130+ before wrap.
A small turbo would be preferable on a factory non turbo engine seeing as how it doesn't have the reinforcement that is found in the turbo motors. And you get quick spool times. Lol. I'd like to see how that runs. Also, make sure you get dished pistons for that so you don't blow out your motor. I'd hate to see all that hard work blow up in your face.
If you have it in your budget, get a full cold air intake and a proper exhaust system so your car can breathe better and you'll get more performance out of the work you're putting into the engine.
Keep up the good work!
Exactly what I was doing, I have a cold air intake system planned out (Remove driver front fog light cover and rub filter down there )I have headers on the to do list and maybe a 2.75in exhaust through and out, no muffler and no cat as ohio isnt an emissions state I can do that haha I only wanted to wrap the header because the cooler that the engine bay is the cooler the air intake pipe will be, and the cooler the already cool air will be.
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Nice planning. I've been wanting to do more or less the same thing. I have the Sensei from bumper on my talon and it had multiple air inlets to it that I could use for the air intake. Don't forget to have a way for water to escape. Most cold air intakes have a bypass valve in case of accidental water ingestion, but to have a way to try to prevent that would still be important.

Glad to see you thinking all of this through though. Thumbs up in my book.
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Nice planning. I've been wanting to do more or less the same thing. I have the Sensei from bumper on my talon and it had multiple air inlets to it that I could use for the air intake. Don't forget to have a way for water to escape. Most cold air intakes have a bypass valve in case of accidental water ingestion, but to have a way to try to prevent that would still be important.

Glad to see you thinking all of this through though. Thumbs up in my book.
Thank you this isnt my first whole engine rebuild, first I was 8 rebuilding a 427 (Right) output of over 500 horse power with all aeroquip braided tubing, and a ton of modifications, I can remember them all, and an esape valve would be a good idea, wasnt going to do that ince the plumbing will go up at approx. 60 degrees and I doubt I will be pulling enough vaccum pressure to suck small amounts of water that high, might be wrong but I doubt it
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Nice. Same goes for myself. I'm 25 and I've been helping my dad with every variation of the engines for '79-'81 Pontiac Firebird/Trans-Am.

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Yes. I have been meaning to do an update post. Sit down. Grab some popcorn, this is a long one..


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Well dropped a little over half of my budget on parts. Got my new high compression pistons in. New timing belt. New timing belt tensioner. New bearings (main and rod). New camshafts. Got a hand made EGR block off kit. As far as I can remember that is the end of parts which I ordered. As for the camshafts... I meant to order Stage 2 cams right? Well I had accidentally ordered turbo cams... So I checker out CNC-Motorsports website (where I ordered them from) and the turbo cams were incorrectly labeled as "Non-Turbo" cams. So I called up CNC and they did a cross-check to ensure that I wasn't pulling their chain. But all worked out, the sent me a shipping label and all I had to do was send my turbo cams in, and they would get new stage 2 cams sent out. This was 2 weeks ago. Still haven't seen the stage 2 cams lol, but whats the rush? So I had some great experience with them. My father is an engineer at a local piping plant and has the skill to bore out my throttle body. I believe it was stock at 50mm and tapered down to 48mm it is now 58mm and tapers to 55 or so. I will get some pictures of all my parts in later today when I head over to the house. My coolant pipes on the forward of the engine were corroded BADDD. So I sandblasted them and went to paint them, they didn't turn out well, pitted horribly. So my dad and his infinite amount of wisdom made new ones! These are copper pipes with stainless brackets. Should last longer than the car. I went to sand blast the calve cover, because it is going to be a deep black cherry red. And come to find out its powder coated... So sandblasting would take forever. So we threw it in the grill. Baked it at about 700 degrees F and that baked the powder coat right off! But there were air pockets in the aluminum which turned to bubbles... So we grinded those out, filled them with JB Weld. And good as new. We are shipping out the block to get bored .020" and honed. We are also sending the crank to get reconditioned. We are also sending out the head to get milled .020". This will make out .020" overbore 9.8:1 pistons bounce up to approx. 10.1:1. Cheap power. Like I said I will get pictures thrown up.
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