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Old November 23rd, 2011, 05:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all,

We're considering getting my 11-year old son (and maybe 7 year old brother) an e-reader for Christmas, and I've been debating an Android based one over an ink reader for the extra stuff he can do. I was looking pretty heavily at the Kindle Fire, but now I see that B&N is mataching the price on the color so I wanted to get a feel for how they compare.

I really like the extra memory and SD slot on the Color, and I already have a Nook so am kinda of hooked to B&N. What I'm trying to get a feel for is the aps that might be available for the Color vs. the Fire (proabably mostly games, since it's for kids). Is there a good number of games available for the Color as compared to the Fire. What kind of ap store does it have? I don't think it has the Android Market, does it? I know the Fire used the Amazon Appstore (go figure)...can the Color access this as well, or how do you get apps?

I'm also wondering about the browser. How fully functional is it? I'm guessing that my son could get on Facebook, but probably not play the games (the boy loves his Backyard Monsters).

Thanks in advance for any tips!

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I would say the Kindle Fire, but I am bias. The Fire is android based and this is an android website :P.
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I guess I thought the Color was Android based as well.

Edit - From what I'm seeing, the Nook Color IS Android based. I'm trying to determine the difference between it and the Fire.
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I debated the same thing and ended up buying a refurbished Nook Color for $149.

I chose this one for the option of rooting it, and thus having access to the full Android market. I'll be doing that in another week or so.

In the meantime I've found this to be a VERY nice device. So far absolutely no regrets.
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Since it's for my son, I don't know if I'll turn it into a full fledged Android or not. What are it's capabilities out of the box?
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Not bad at all actually. If I wasn't already fired up about rooting it, I'd be completely satisfied with it.

Again mine was a refurbished one. and it was spotless.
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Where do you get apps for it? It doesn't have the Android Market, does it? And I'm sure since they compete with the Kindle it doesn't use the Amazon Appstore.
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I debated the same thing and ended up buying a refurbished Nook Color for $149.

I chose this one for the option of rooting it, and thus having access to the full Android market. I'll be doing that in another week or so.

In the meantime I've found this to be a VERY nice device. So far absolutely no regrets.
Okay, one more thing. Did you just root it, or did you replace the OS? From what I'm reading, I like the idea of being able to put the Android OS on an SD card.
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Have not rooted it yet. I plan to buy a pre-loaded card, either n2a or from rootmynookcolor.com.

For now there are a lot of apps available on the B &N site. Though I'm not buying much till I get the card.

Again, even as is, I've no complaints. It is nice. And will be even better soon ...
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I'm biased too in favor of the Kindle. I absolutely hate the look of the Nook. That eye in the corner drives me nuts. This review may help a little. Review: Kindle Fire -What's All the Fuss? | Valu-Trek.com
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It all comes down to personal preference. As for me, I was not interested in getting everything from Amazon. I wanted access to the Netflix that we already pay for. I did not want another membership for access to videos. That and a few other things led me to the nook. And i like the look just fine ...
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Have not rooted it yet. I plan to buy a pre-loaded card, either n2a or from rootmynookcolor.com.

For now there are a lot of apps available on the B &N site. Though I'm not buying much till I get the card.

Again, even as is, I've no complaints. It is nice. And will be even better soon ...
Hey guys, I just got my hands on a Kindle Fire last week and was able to give it the once over. In my opinion it is very similar to the Nook Tablet (or the Nook Color 2, if you're a Nook purist ) in spec with the exception of the additional SD card you can add to the Nooks. Both unrooted limit you to their respective stores and app repositories and as such charge a good bit for otherwise free apps.

As an e-reader it looks to be about on par with the the Nooks, although the battery life is a little less (again solely going on spec.)

Willie, I don't know what they are charging for the preconfigured SD cards, but before you go that route, i'd check into rooting yourself. Read this post on the XDA forums about Manual Nooter. I've got mine rooted with the stock B&N OS 1.3 and it for me is the best of both worlds. I get the true Nook interface plus i can access the Android Market (not just the B&N one) and put the Kindle app on it so i can buy content from Amazon, if B&N doesn't have the books i want.

I wouldn't recommend running a rom from the sd card for any length of time. It's great for recovery, updating and evaluation, but it will be a little laggy and prone to force close many apps.
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Lunatic, thanks. I will check it out!
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i wouldn't get a Fire for the same reason I wouldn't get an iphone. Locked capacity. While 8gb is a lot of data and the cloud will hold a lot of the data when you're full and shuffling around it's just so much nicer having unlimited storage with cards. They're cheap, easy to find and you can buy as many as you need or want to.

Hardware wise a $200 Nook color is a nice piece of equipment, for $50 more you get the new 'tablet' with all the hardware goodies, including twice the internal storage of the fire.
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I've seen specs compared between the Nook Tablet and the Fire and the NT wins hands down.

The NC on the other hand is not a dual core cpu and I haven't seen the specs compared. IMO, the sdcard slot makes a BIG difference if you plan on installing a custom rom since it's your life raft and keeps it from becoming bricked.

The NT does appear to have a protected boot loader tho so rom developers will have a little extra work, but they got around that on the DroidX (which I use) and there's LOTS of roms available for that.
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Okay, one more thing. Did you just root it, or did you replace the OS? From what I'm reading, I like the idea of being able to put the Android OS on an SD card.
Ok - Just received my card last night. I'm not a techie - I was specifically looking for a "plug in & play" deal to root my Nook. I bought a 16gb card through rootmynookcolor.com.

Plugged it in last night, and WOW. I have much to learn with it, but the capabilities are definitely interesting. No question at all now - I'm VERY glad I went this route. $200 total (Refurbished Nook @ $149, and $50 for the card) and I have a sweet machine to play with.

For what it's worth ...
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$50 for a $12 card with a free OS on it.... a kitten dies everytime someone buys these over-priced cards.
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That's fine. 80 he's a week @ work, 4 kids to keep up with ... Costs me about 35 for someone else to phart with it. Sorry, I just don't have the time or need the headache.

I'm good with it.

Wish I had more time. I have nothing but respect for those who like to set up their own ...
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That's fine. 80 he's a week @ work, 4 kids to keep up with ... Costs me about 35 for someone else to phart with it. Sorry, I just don't have the time or need the headache.

I'm good with it.

Wish I had more time. I have nothing but respect for those who like to set up their own ...

I can sure dig what your saying about having enough time Willie! The used Nook Color that I purchased came with a N2A card already, however I am unable to register the damn thing. Just running the N2A now from the card, which is a Sandisk 8gb class 4 card

The hell of it is, if I am not able to register this unit, Previous owner has it still registered, I will probably find the time to just install the CM7 on the internal card and be done with it.

none the less, it was a toss up between the Nook Color and the Kindle Fire.

Picked the NC due to being more mature and having better mods.
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Hmm, if it's still registered to the former user, can you buy books on their dime? If so, that might give you enough incentive to get the former owner to unregister...
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I would jump all over a new nook color if I didn't have to repartition the dam thing to the old setup, so I could enjoy all the "goodies" it is capable of. I thought about buying a card from rootmynookcolor, but I start adding up the cost and to me its just not worth it.

I think I am going to go with the Kindle Fire because before long, its going to hacked to pieces and then let the games begin.
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I would say the Kindle Fire, but I am bias. The Fire is android based and this is an android website :P.
Both are modified Android devices.
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rushmore is right both are android based. The Nook tablet is just generation 2 of the nook color.

in any case they're both great in their native forms. When full root and custom rom's show up for them, it'll be even better except for the caveat that the Fire has half the internal memory and no expansion memory slot
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Ok - Just received my card last night. I'm not a techie - I was specifically looking for a "plug in & play" deal to root my Nook. I bought a 16gb card through rootmynookcolor.com.

Plugged it in last night, and WOW. I have much to learn with it, but the capabilities are definitely interesting. No question at all now - I'm VERY glad I went this route. $200 total (Refurbished Nook @ $149, and $50 for the card) and I have a sweet machine to play with.

For what it's worth ...
I used the Cyanogen 8 gb and it significantly improved the performance of the nook. I didn't like the Nook. Going all in on a Tablet.
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There is no CM8 (HoneyComb). CM8 was skipped since no source code from Google so CM9 is now in the works (Ice Cream Sandwich).

Did you mean CM7 (Gingerbread)? Yes, works great, but ICS will be nicer.
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Both are limited in their apps availability, but out of the box, the Fire is better. I got both for Xmas, and if I didn't root my Nook, I would've kept the Fire.
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I guess I thought the Color was Android based as well.

Edit - From what I'm seeing, the Nook Color IS Android based. I'm trying to determine the difference between it and the Fire.
The difference is that the Nook Color is a better thought out and executed product. The Fire doesn't seem to have come to market with an actual finished OS. It is clunky and slow, hell even the slide lock is laggy.

I have a Nook Color that I installed CM7 via emmc so it is now purely a tablet. I can't be happier with it and my experience with it so far. Plus the first generation of the Nook Color can be had at a price lower than the Fire.
But hey I am biased I use it for both pleasure and work, it has been really great to me.
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Bought two of the NC's,both refurbs, for the wife and daughter. $119 and $129 respectively. Rooted both and CM7'd both. They both love them and now I'm jealous. I want one! These things, once rooted, are fantastic cheap tablets! Think I'd be VERY hard pressed to find something similar or better at this price range. Next best bet would be something like a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 or 8.9 but those are closer to $500. They're nice but NOT cheap by any stretch....
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Interested in a 10" for yourself? (You can always use poor eyesight as an excuse)

Check out the HP Touchpad from Amazon or fleeBay.... about $250, then install CM7.1 on it. Diversification is good.
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Fixed small storage was my main reason for not going with the fire. The NC CM7 gets me expandable storage and the amazon cloud player (only reason I even concerned the fire). The UI on the NC is nice and smooth so far. Is it as good as my jailbroken iPad 2? Of course not, but it's less than a third of the price. I actually want to get another one of these myself because I like my daughter's so much.
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I agree. I bought a 16gb card with cm7 on it for $30, and it was worth it to me to not have to root the nc myself.

Oh I also bought a refurb from ebay for $147..in perfect condition...no tax and no shipping.

So for less than $178 I now have another Android tablet.
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$50 for a $12 card with a free OS on it.... a kitten dies everytime someone buys these over-priced cards.
I have to agree. I can't see paying 40 to 80 bucks for a twenty minute job. I also wouldn't like using something that you have to boot in and out of to use.

Actually, it takes more time to read and re-read the instructions and download the zip files than it does to root the nook.

There is an alternative to replacing the OS and that is ManualNooter. You can install this and have the best of both worlds. You keep all the B&N functions and still have a full android tablet without booting back and forth.

BTW, I do run CM7 on my android phone.
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