Let me see YOU bricked your fone and returned it?
Remind me to never sell you anything.
I would suggest you go get a copy of linux and a linux bible and spend some quality time with that before you get into rooting another fone.
Go get a linux magazine with a live copy of linux and DON'T install it. run it live it's a little slower but no system changes to your PC. less chance of you blasting your PC to infinity and beyond.
Learn the basics 1st like what chmod, vi, cat, ypcat, and man are.
USE the CLI since all you're going to have access to in adb is CLI. in linux syntax is everything. one wrong switch and your re-installing the OS. as you found out the hard way.
Please don't take this as a flame. This is meant to get you started in the right direction. That way once you get root you can acually do something constructive with it.
trust me you'll be alot more happy when you not only root your fone but acually understand what you are looking @.
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on a side note.....
anyone wanna drop a ascii fork bomb on the behold II? I'm wondering what the repercussions would be??? think it would brick it or just make you reboot?
Of course I returned the phone. It was still in the 14 day period. Any way I still dont see what I did wrong. I followed all the commands and everything to a T. Does anyone have an idea? Sorry Im not an expert.
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BTW I accidentally had the same problem as Bigch0ps (not from rooting) but I did the recovery mode that was mentioned earlier and it works fine (didn't fix the battery problem though)
Im trying to root the phone but when i go to cmd the phone SN wont come up any ideas? thanks in advance.
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I figured it out, you have to make sure you set mass storage mode off and usb debugging on, on the phone. Thank you guys the root works perfect im going to try messing with the hero rom. I will let you guys know if it works.
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See this thread for the proper USB drivers. I'm currently moving upto ubunto 9.10 and am seriously thinking about making the move back to slackware. ( it is the oldest/most reliably linux on the planet) just not the friendliest....
my next fone just may well be the SDK dev. 399.99 fone. why? Well I don't want to do anything with this fone except exploit it.
Oh I did try the ascii fork bomb both $ and #
ABSOLUTLY no effect to the fone, PC, or ADB shell. I found that rather interesting. since I use the fork bomb for a few things on other *nix systems. Seems they closed that somehow. maybe just a "kill -9" to that command. Means there won't be a buffer over flow from it (least not a standard ascii bomb) . I also found it interesting how bare bones the OS is. no vi or any other text editer. everything needs forced, pushed, or modified. after written.
A few more options might be back tracker or knoppix STD for this fone.
I'm happy with what I have, as I have root. and it allows me to do what I want/need..
thank you all for not being sheeple and being creative!! saved me weeks if not months.
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You only need to root IF you need to use an app that needs root. There arent that many. Market enabler is probably the most essential one for people who dont have the full market.
Otherwise its pretty pointless running this procedure to root right now.
alright well no luck in my post, maybe I'll post here:
So i'm trying to root my Behold 2, been following the instructions on THE UNLOCKER, and want to connect it to ADB. I have the Android SDK on my C drive, and where I get stuck is when I put in the code to find the serial it gives me "LIST OF DEVICES:" and the serial is never there.
I have downloaded the Behold 2 drivers, and it installs every one except the Samsung ADB Interface which it fails on. I use the USBDEVIEW software to uninstall and try again but everytime it's the same failure, and yes the phone is set to USB debugged, and Samsung Studio.
I'm running Windows Premium 64bit, I don't know if running a 64 bit system has anything to do with this. Any help would be great! I thought I was a tech junkie until I ran into thisSo i'm trying to root my Behold 2, been following the instructions on THE UNLOCKER, and want to connect it to ADB. I have the Android SDK on my C drive, and where I get stuck is when I put in the code to find the serial it gives me "LIST OF DEVICES:" and the serial is never there.
I have downloaded the Behold 2 drivers, and it installs every one except the Samsung ADB Interface which it fails on. I use the USBDEVIEW software to uninstall and try again but everytime it's the same failure, and yes the phone is set to USB debugged, and Samsung Studio.
I'm running Windows Premium 64bit, I don't know if running a 64 bit system has anything to do with this. Any help would be great! I thought I was a tech junkie until I ran into this
Same thing happened to me. You have to go into your phone and turn off the mass storage device, Once you do that it will load the adb driver by itself. go to cmd and it will show up. Let me know if you need anything else. I would suggest to wait on rooting the phone unit its 100%. Reason being is i rooted the phone and it worked but then a bunch of apps started crashing so i did a factory reset with unrooted the phone but it wasnt the same, i got saved because i was still within my 14 so i exchange it for a new one. Ive been reading that 2.1 will be released OTA this month.
I've experienced no problems with my fone since I went mid-root-val on it's buttocks!!!
accept the cpu is now a little over 200 bogoMIPS faster.
I might try ahome or panda now since I have the proccesor power to keep it from laging (it is just a overlay) so your running two skins not replacing one with the other.
I also expect the 1st OTA to kill the two root hacks that are out there and fix a bunch of stuff WE don't even know can be exploited.
Think about it! the behold 2 wasn't out 2 weeks and has temp and persistant root.
DROID, HTC HERO?......? NADA NOTHING!. One reason I went with the behold on the 18th. I know sumsung is lax. But they are also not fools.
The CPU auto speeds to save power. You'll see it at 528Mhz sometimes and 300 odd othertimes. There's some apps in market to control the CPU in other ways if you prefer.
Rooting won't increase the cpu speed or change its scheduling
DROID still isnt hacked, but thats because its running the latest live android OS so we cant use bugs already discovered in older kernels.
The hero (and most HTC devices) can be rooted by bypassing security using a gold card (an sdcard wit a specially generated key on it).
The behold was rooted with the same exploit that was used on other 1.5 systems from quite some time ago. The persistant root uses that same exploit, but just some trickery to make it run on every boot.
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So rooting the Behold 2 won't make it faster? because texting does not keep up with me on the Behold 2, and I was hoping rooting it would fix the issue.
Also to use the persisant root don't we need to connect the phone to ADB? A
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So rooting the Behold 2 won't make it faster? because texting does not keep up with me on the Behold 2, and I was hoping rooting it would fix the issue.
Also to use the persisant root don't we need to connect the phone to ADB? A
root is a linux term, its elevated access and makes you "almost" system admin
it doesn not speed things up, it allows you do do stuff with your phone that needs that level of access.
you do need ADB to function in order to do this, i read your other post. are you using windows 7 x64 as that could cause you issues?
In the simplest terms its like having 'administrator' access on your windows computer. You can install anything, remove anything and break anything you like. But you can't install roms or programs from other phones, just like you cant install symbian on your PC!
KAM187 great to hear that we have found a way to get persistent root! if you need any help let me know! i dont get my phone for another week and a half, but my goal is to figure out how to get sense UI on the behold 2. I mean with 320 mbs of ram, it should run quite well without a swap partition.looking forward to whats to come!
the only problem I have w/ persistent root is if you install a home alternative home app it boot loops. probably will undo persistent root if i can find how to and just run everytime I need it.
the only problem I have w/ persistent root is if you install a home alternative home app it boot loops. probably will undo persistent root if i can find how to and just run everytime I need it.
Pretty much anytime you install a program, just to be safe, run Terminal and enter the command fix_permissions. It seems to correct a lot of problems. Hope this helps.
to mygti02.. I did do a factory reset and I did the hard reset as well. Sorry I am not a know it all. After all isnt that what this forum is about? To learn and exchange info?
Last edited by bigch0ps; December 11th, 2009 at 05:34 PM.
I am a programmer with experience with Linux and Java, but I am new to the android community as this is my first phone. Let me know if I can help in any way.
I have 2 rooted G1's and won a Behold II, should be here in about 10 days. Is there a recovery image that works on it yet? Is permanent root and custom roms an option yet? I am a mod on Android Community and we don't have nearly as much information on the Behod II as you do here. Thanks in advance for your indulgence.
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The behold runs a check on boot an removes suid shells in /bin (and probably other directories. We need to hijack a suid task that runs really early on to get persistant root (see first post).
The behold also uses some secure partitions and so you cant simply use fastboot or odin to flash a custom recovery. Its also not security ulocked
The only way to put a custom rom on it would be to get the hijacked persisitant root command to kill system processes, untar onto /system what you need and then retart the processes.
Everyone be warned.. a 'hard reset' or 'factory restore' ONLY wipes /data and cache. That means any changes you make to /system will remain after a factory reset, except any that get undone on boot (like the su). On the upside it means you could probably untar a modified system onto /system and most of it would remain. On the down side if you mess up your /system you're phone is essentially bricked untill we get at least one update from samsung.
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The behold runs a check on boot an removes suid shells in /bin (and probably other directories. We need to hijack a suid task that runs really early on to get persistant root (see first post).
The behold also uses some secure partitions and so you cant simply use fastboot or odin to flash a custom recovery. Its also not security ulocked
The only way to put a custom rom on it would be to get the hijacked persisitant root command to kill system processes, untar onto /system what you need and then retart the processes.
Everyone be warned.. a 'hard reset' or 'factory restore' ONLY wipes /data and cache. That means any changes you make to /system will remain after a factory reset, except any that get undone on boot (like the su). On the upside it means you could probably untar a modified system onto /system and most of it would remain. On the down side if you mess up your /system you're phone is essentially bricked untill we get at least one update from samsung.
Thank you for myour response, I think I'll sell it and get the Nexus One on the 5th of January. It won't be long until it gets rooted. I've already looked at the system dump and seen the boot screen. Thanks again.
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This does not work for me. I gain the initial root and setup everything but the root does not stick. After a reboot su in the adb shell brings me back to $ not #.
Is this running 1.5? Wow, this is so fantastic! I have been waiting since before the phone even came out to hear this news!! BTW, I am definitely donating to the 2.x cause.
It has 115mb free ram lol. No wonder its shit fast. So jealous!
Will post a tutorial soon. Or join us on freenode #i7500
I always seem to have about 115mb of ram free when I first boot and close anything unnecessary with a task killer (like myfave which takes up like 10mb and is a service I don't have). If it stays like that after an hour though big props and I can't wait for this.
Count me more interested when there is a way to go back or restore the original image. Other then that i continue to wait for the update. Its kinda like Christmas with a mix of eagerness knowing its coming and angst not knowing how long.
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Wow , just , wow , this is great . This means that we can install vanilla 2.x when its released , because we kno that we getting 2.x but with TW , Kam I'm still interested in how they are re_signing the galaxy files , after they are re_packaged . Is It done using some kind of test_keys for the custom roms ?
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