dglowen23

thanks but i got the keyboard working... i didnt get any work done on the behold 2 yet cuz i was working on my G1 so i have sumthing to fall back on if i brick the bh. but im probably going to be selling this fone in about a month and switching to sprint for the Evo... cant wait for that but ill continue to work on this until then if any of you have ideas let me no

derrickps3

well all hope for this rom went down the drain. anyone still working on it tho??

suyash1

cant we ask Google for the drivers we need?

2FR35H

If it was that easy I am sure it would have already been done.

The files we need are within touchwiz of which the source and drivers hasn't been fully released.

We would have to get it from samsung and obviously they aren't gonna do it.

Ohgami

Not for the Proprietary Drivers. That is the problem.

psz

There's always the old-fashioned method:

Create drivers from scratch ;->


(Yes, it is possible. No, it's NOT going to happen)

2FR35H

How do we go about creating drivers?

suyash1

if creating things from scratch then why not get 2.2 rather then 2.1

BH_MAN

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psz

You'd need to A: Know programming, B: Know Android coding, and C: Have a complete technical schematics of the phone.


A and B are easy (Take a couple of years, but very common).

C isn't bloody likely. The only other option is Reverse Engineering, and that's just as unlikely due to Samsung's security measures.



Oh, right... Then there's the minor thing of actually getting it to all work right.

On the *EXTREME* off chance that someone could sucessfully decompile the 1.x drivers, it would be SLIGHTLY more possible to re-code them to work with 2.x. From the sounds of it, though, that's probably as difficult as obtaining the tech schema/reverse engineering.

aequitas3

if only we actually could derive the drivers from what we do have....but as you said psz, it'll be a complete pain in the a$$ and more than likely probably not happen....

2FR35H

Well being a student majoring in programming I know quite a few people already proficient in programming with java and C++ and as well as hackers. Sounds like a lot of work but most definitely could be done but time frame would be more of the issue I see.

psz

Knowing how to code is one thing.

Knowing how to write code to make UNDOCUMENTED HARDWARE work is something else entirely.

Especially nowadays... Everyone has gotten used to using a pre-exisiting interface (Java, .Net, OpenGL, XDA, etc)


Actually writing FOR THE HARDWARE DIRECTLY is an almost lost art at this point.

bearsfan85

what about using something like astro and pulling files off the phone that way? also is there anyway we could just spoof the phone into thinking its running 2.1 so we could atleast run apps that require 2.x.

psz

That would be like trying to fool Windows 3.1 into thinking it's Windows 7.

Even if you do manage to change the version numbers EVERYWHERE, you'll still be missing all the files, libraries, and whatnot required to actually run those apps.

bearsfan85

ah, didnt really think that one through

derrickps3

well this is the end of this thread

no 2.1 for bh2.........woe is me

derrickps3

well this is the end of this thread

no 2.1 for bh2.........woe is me

josh375

So is this ever coming out or are we abandoning it?

aequitas3

not trying to be rude, but as of now, this is practically almost abandoned. as stated a few times here and over at androidspin, no bh2 2.1 drivers/rfs/everything needed to make this function correctly on this phone, no 2.1 rom development.

AsianSensation

I wonder what recent turn of events has suddenly given everyone so much faith in a 2.1 ROM. Is it because of the leaked 2.1 for the Galaxy Spica? Eugene, please give us some news update on what you're thinking/planning.

aequitas3

better off asking on androidspin. he hasn't posted all day but i did read a tweet on twitter that someone helping bh_man/eugene373 is actually getting ready to release an alpha 2.1 on the bh2.

grennis

Yeah the most recent info is here:

BH_MAN / Eugene373 (Eugene_373) on Twitter

BH_MAN

Help? Who is Helping? Would Love Some!! All my Rom's have been 100& Me with Fixes I've found here and there from others to make things better.. but help?

behold_this

Any update on your alpha release? Still workin through the kinks?

BH_MAN

Still working on it, best part is it's not in Emulation mode and Running okay.. Still working on the Sound atm.. Wifi Turns on but wont connect & BT I broke.. None of these are at the top of the List.. Not, until Sound is working 100% that is..

aequitas3

sorry....i must've misread the tweet, but i did notice it was @you, so i figured someone was helping...

sorry

grennis

If calls and 3G work, I say release it... I'm running 2.2 on my G1 with sound, wifi, GPS, BT, all broken, and is still my everyday ROM

microhaxo

Hold your guns here, let him release when he feels it's ready. No point in having 105 people saying "BLUETOOTH AND WIFI DONT WORK!"

wscottstephensjr

this alpha news saved my bh2 from craigslist... thanks bhman!

derrickps3

i hope all goes well, i jumped ship to blackberry.


so bh_man are you still getting mytouch slide even if you get 2.1 working on behold 2?

i hope it works so samsung can be made out of a fool

Fishfan

I'm not going anywhere! Checking the forums a number a times every day for updates

BH_MAN

Don't stop From Selling it... 2.1 will never work 100% correctly.. I'm doing this out of spite... Once I get it Fast enough & smooth enough, I'm Going to post a Youutube Video & Ask why Samsung thinks it not able to Run 2.1 / 2.2 ? Fact of the matter is it will never been an everyday Rom to use, still Missing Much need parts..

This is more of, Hey Samsung.. Stop lying to everyone type of deal at this Point..

derrickps3

i agree with bh_man...........i sold my behold 2 on craigslist, it wasn't worth keeping this device anymore because it seems like it was made for nothing. i do thank bh_man for making a custom 1.6 rom for it which made it better, but that fact of not having 2.1/2 while other devices will have makes you feel outdated, and i don't like being outdated.

i would go ahead and continue to sell the behold 2 if i were you as bh_man said 2.1 will not fully work on behold 2.

and yeah i hope he does get it running so he can show samsung via youtube that 2.1 CAN run on the behold 2. they will be so shamed when thousands of views and comments towards it would be like, lol everyone cursing samsung ahahahaha and i will be amongst those who are. SCREW SAMSUNG!!!!.................but i will continue to use their digital cameras lol :P

ericjwill

The issue ultimately lies with their featurephone skin touchwiz. If this phone were like the Moment we would be set for a long time.

Hats off to BH_MAN for sticking it to the... man? Your work has turned from awesome to awesome-er in short order. We're Sammy's customers first, revenue streams second.

I agree on the selling deal. Although even at $215 & unlocked I am having 0 hits on mine from Craigslist in both NYC and Central NJ . Probably will give it as a hand-me-down to my mother.

behold_this

What the hell does this have to do with 2.1 on the behold? Just wondering.

bearsfan85

That works, explains why I was getting some weird things with dates and such, didnt see it when I first made the thread

But back to the main point, Hows the Dev Going

BH_MAN

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bearsfan85

This is starting to seem like the LHC, i have a feeling if 2.1 is every ported there will be a rip in the time space continuum and we will get engulfed in a black hole

jtothada

im so desperate to get 2.1 i think im ah try this Sameer Prabhakar - Mad Ramblings: Samsung I5700 (Galaxy SPICA) Android 2.1 Flashing Guide (Updated)

bearsfan85

I guess let us know how it goes.

Would it work if we used the partition from the r12

BH_MAN

Enjoy your New Paper weight

bearsfan85

I thought people were using it as a paper weight now...

is there any chance that a port would work with that, granted some dev would be needed, but would it be worth the effort?

jtothada

no offense but tmo ah ship me another for free in 2 days so what do i have to lose, maybe i can complain and get a mytouch slide for freesince i been with them for 6yrs

BH_MAN

well you can get it to boot, but your will still be in the same place you are now... no driver's

supermod23

well if this is true then samsux is right. or do you think samsux could make it work 100%.

mikenick42

I think much-needed parts in this context means drivers from Samsung. The only way they'd be unable to do it themselves is if there's some kind of weird licensing issue which is possible, but I think it's unlikely. Samsung just wants to focus on developing and selling new phones because there's no money in software updates for stuff you've already sold.

=KLRS=ZERO

thats the problem they have the drivers and we dont

fallenturtle

In response to Samsung claiming that the Behold II can't run 2.x, are there any phones of equal stats or less powerful that are able to run 2.x?

grennis

Sure. I have 2.2 running on my G1 right now.