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Old June 6th, 2014, 03:08 AM   #201 (permalink)
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For those folks on Boost or VM who flashed the Sprint ND8 Kit Kat tar, I have good news. I just risked sleeping on the couch to see if the NDC tar would flash over the ND8 bootloader, and not only did it flash, but it saved all of the data, just like an OTA upgrade does. She snagged it back before I was able to re-root and such, but just know, it DOES flash over it just fine, just takes awhile. Good luck!
Any performance or signal improvements?

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Any performance or signal improvements?
Wife snagged it back before I could really test, but she was running KK ND8 before, so performance, same, signal, remains to be seen. From JB MK5, better performance, definitely, and verdict is still out on signal...I've heard some say it's way better, same, even worse. YDMV
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If we Odin the restore you posted on xda over a mk5 Rom, we will lose all data?
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If we Odin the restore you posted on xda over a mk5 Rom, we will lose all data?
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Only if you plan on staying with the stock ROM. If you plan on flashing a custom, rooted ROM, there is no need to root.
Got it, so basically this is good to get the ndc bootloader and modem upgraded from mk5 in order to flash nd8 and ndc roms?
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Got it, so basically this is good to get the ndc bootloader and modem upgraded from mk5 in order to flash nd8 and ndc roms?
Yep , and even JB based roms flashed through cwm will work, you just can't flash a lower boot loader
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Got it, so basically this is good to get the ndc bootloader and modem upgraded from mk5 in order to flash nd8 and ndc roms?
It's a personal choice. Some are taking the update while others are staying away from Knox.

Personally, I flashed the Sprint nd8 image and then flashed the new Philz recovery. Afterwards I flashed Wicked-X. The ROM is so nice that I have DEcided to stick with it.

One thing I want to make you aware of if you do Decide to update. Don't start worrying about it taking a long time to flash. It took mine a good while to finish. Don't panic and unplug the phone or try and stop it or you could very easily brick your phone. Just be patient and let it do its thing.
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It's a personal choice. Some are taking the update while others are staying away from Knox.

Personally, I flashed the Sprint nd8 image and then flashed the new Philz recovery. Afterwards I flashed Wicked-X. The ROM is so nice that I have DEcided to stick with it.

One thing I want to make you aware of if you do Decide to update. Don't start worrying about it taking a long time to flash. It took mine a good while to finish. Don't panic and unplug the phone or try and stop it or you could very easily brick your phone. Just be patient and let it do its thing.
Yeah, I think that's what I'm going to do, I was just waiting for the boost modem because they seem to work better for me than sprints. Knox doesn't really bother me because I don't plan on downgrading
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Yeah, I think that's what I'm going to do, I was just waiting for the boost modem because they seem to work better for me than sprints. Knox doesn't really bother me because I don't plan on downgrading
I'm the same way...might be placebo, but it seems the Boost modems work better for me. And wetbiker7 is exactly right. Don't panic. When Odin is done, it'll actually show you how long it took. 14 min, 26 seconds for me. And when you're dealing with Odin, that's an eternity, because you just KNOW this is going to be that time that your battery dies, the dog or munchkin kid rips the phone away from the PC while you're trying to explain to your wife what you're doing to her phone and what "brick" means, etc....put it on the counter, hit start, and leave the room for about 15 minutes...for your sanity...you're welcome
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I'm the same way...might be placebo, but it seems the Boost modems work better for me. And wetbiker7 is exactly right. Don't panic. When Odin is done, it'll actually show you how long it took. 14 min, 26 seconds for me. And when you're dealing with Odin, that's an eternity, because you just KNOW this is going to be that time that your battery dies, the dog or munchkin kid rips the phone away from the PC while you're trying to explain to your wife what you're doing to her phone and what "brick" means, etc....put it on the counter, hit start, and leave the room for about 15 minutes...for your sanity...you're welcome
Thanks for mentioning the battery. I forgot.

You will want to have plenty of juice in your battery before you start the update.
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I think I'll do the odin flash for ndc tomorrow if I have time. I have nd8 all set up the way I like it so it'll be a simple restore afterwards.
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I think I'll do the odin flash for ndc tomorrow if I have time. I have nd8 all set up the way I like it so it'll be a simple restore afterwards.
If you flash NDC tar, it won't wipe your internal card or data.
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If you flash NDC tar, it won't wipe your internal card or data.
I've gotta question for ya JD. I'm thinking about just flashing the NDC modem. I'm on ND8 and want to see if there is any change in reception, good or bad. One problem. I've looked but I haven't seen a recovery flashable ND8 modem zip in case the NDC modem ended up messing with my reception and I need to flash back.

Do you know of one that I've missed? I really don't even need a recovery zip to flash the ND8 modern. I could use Odin to flash the ND8 baseband tar but I haven't seen one of those either. LOL!
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I've gotta question for ya JD. I'm thinking about just flashing the NDC modem. I'm on ND8 and want to see if there is any change in reception, good or bad. One problem. I've looked but I haven't seen a recovery flashable ND8 modem zip in case the NDC modem ended up messing with my reception and I need to flash back.

Do you know of one that I've missed? I really don't even need a recovery zip to flash the ND8 modern. I could use Odin to flash the ND8 baseband tar but I haven't seen one of those either. LOL!
There isn't one out that I know of. @CNexus put one out when ND8 first dropped but a couple of guys bricked while flashing it, so he took it down. Should be something as simple as changing out the NON-HLOS.bin file from @moonknightus's NDC modem zip. Or you can always back it up in Philz recovery. Reboot to recovery, backup and restore, custom backup to.....(I suggest sd card), backup modem, profit
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There isn't one out that I know of. @CNexus put one out when ND8 first dropped but a couple of guys bricked while flashing it, so he took it down. Should be something as simple as changing out the NON-HLOS.bin file from @moonknightus's NDC modem zip. Or you can always back it up in Philz recovery. Reboot to recovery, backup and restore, custom backup to.....(I suggest sd card), backup modem, profit
SWEET! I didn't even think about using Philz to make modem backup. Thx
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For those folks on Boost or VM who flashed the Sprint ND8 Kit Kat tar, I have good news. I just risked sleeping on the couch to see if the NDC tar would flash over the ND8 bootloader, and not only did it flash, but it saved all of the data, just like an OTA upgrade does. She snagged it back before I was able to re-root and such, but just know, it DOES flash over it just fine, just takes awhile. Good luck!
thanks for this i shouldve hunted a bit more
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Anyone seen this lately? It keeps appearing on mine... Never saw it until NDC.

Also anyone have that nd8 modem flash? I'd love to flash because I honestly think nd8 is better
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Also if I were to backup my current setup that's on NDC then Odin over the nd8 tar. Would restoring the NDC backup I just made work correctly?
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Anyone seen this lately? It keeps appearing on mine... Never saw it until NDC.

Also anyone have that nd8 modem flash? I'd love to flash because I honestly think nd8 is better
Haven't seen that. Looks like an app conflict. I have the modem in zip format. I built it and @wetbiker7 tested it for me. Just been too busy to put it in an OP. I'll get it up soon. And yes, the backup will work fine if on the other KK boot loader.
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FYI. I originally flashed the ND8 bootloader with modern. I was curious so I decided to try the NDC modem. I'm actually getting better reception with NDC. I changed the prl too and that may have helped but I did notice an immediate improvement in radio reception after flashing the NDC modem.

As for JD's ND8 recovery flashable ND8 modem, it's good to go. I flashed it over the ND8 modem I was running and it ran fine. Please note that I am running a custom kernel too. The comment below will explain why I mentioned that I'm running a custom kernel.


The Dev who posted the recovery flashable NDC modem states in his OP that a custom kernel is a must because it will not work with the stock ND8 kernel.


JD, this may be true for your ND8 modem being flashed over the NDC modem and bootloader. The only way to know for sure is to have someone with straight NDC give it a try. If they have issues with the modem then they should give it a try with a custom kernel.

Hopefully that's not the case but if it's true for the NDC modem and stock ND8 kernel not working together, it may be the same for your ND8 modem and the ND8 stock kernel.

Just a little something that I noticed while reading and wanted to mention.
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FYI. I originally flashed the ND8 bootloader with modern. I was curious so I decided to try the NDC modem. I'm actually getting better reception with NDC. I changed the prl too and that may have helped but I did notice an immediate improvement in radio reception after flashing the NDC modem.

As for JD's ND8 recovery flashable ND8 modem, it's good to go. I flashed it over the ND8 modem I was running and it ran fine. Please note that I am running a custom kernel too. The comment below will explain why I mentioned that I'm running a custom kernel.


The Dev who posted the recovery flashable NDC modem states in his OP that a custom kernel is a must because it will not work with the stock ND8 kernel.


JD, this may be true for your ND8 modem being flashed over the NDC modem and bootloader. The only way to know for sure is to have someone with straight NDC give it a try. If they have issues with the modem then they should give it a try with a custom kernel.

Hopefully that's not the case but if it's true for the NDC modem and stock ND8 kernel not working together, it may be the same for your ND8 modem and the ND8 stock kernel.

Just a little something that I noticed while reading and wanted to mention.
That is true, unfortunately
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I was just pushed the boost 4.4.2 update today. I hate that I can no longer move my files from my network drive to my sd card using es file explorer (or any other way) so I want to root my 3 month old s3 and am willing to void the warranty. Will rooting it allow access to my sd card or will I have to install a custom rom also? Will you add a rooting 4.4.2 guide for newbees? I have rooted my old Galaxy Prevail with great success but I am not comfortable with the process yet. Thanks in advance for all the help. You guys are great!
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I was just pushed the boost 4.4.2 update today. I hate that I can no longer move my files from my network drive to my sd card using es file explorer (or any other way) so I want to root my 3 month old s3 and am willing to void the warranty. Will rooting it allow access to my sd card or will I have to install a custom rom also? Will you add a rooting 4.4.2 guide for newbees? I have rooted my old Galaxy Prevail with great success but I am not comfortable with the process yet. Thanks in advance for all the help. You guys are great!
Once you are rooted there are several apps on the play store that will allow third party apps (such as es file exployer) to be able to write to the SD card. The app I used is NextApp SDFix.
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Any chance of a newbee 4.4.2 guide? Or maybe just a push in the right direction. Will the mk5 guide using the same philz recovery tar work?
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Any chance of a newbee 4.4.2 guide? Or maybe just a push in the right direction. Will the mk5 guide using the same philz recovery tar work?
1. Flash stock KK tar through Odin
2. Flash d2lte.tar philz recovery through Odin
3. Reboot to recovery
4. Select Philz settings, reroot, apply SuperSU
5. Reboot phone
6. Install latest SuperSU from play store
7. Open SuperSU, click yes to the "disable Knox" prompt.
8. Profit.
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1. Flash stock KK tar through Odin
2. Flash d2lte.tar philz recovery through Odin
3. Reboot to recovery
4. Select Philz settings, reroot, apply SuperSU
5. Reboot phone
6. Install latest SuperSU from play store
7. Open SuperSU, click yes to the "disable Knox" prompt.
8. Profit.
also. if you have the flashable SuperSU zip you could do that instead of downloading it.
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Thank you for your help. I've only rooted one previous phone and am still a little confused. Since I was just pushed KK 4.4.2 from Boost do I still have to flash the stock KK rom in step 1. Sorry, I just noticed the "Quote message" option which would have made things clearer.
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Thank you for your help. I've only rooted one previous phone and am still a little confused. Since I was just pushed KK 4.4.2 from Boost do I still have to flash the stock KK rom in step 1. Sorry, I just noticed the "Quote message" option which would have made things clearer.
No, you don't.
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No, you don't.
Do you have a link for the d2lte.tar philz recovery ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446393
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I have root! Thank you all for your help. The only trouble I had was at the end when I went to the Play Store to Download Super SU. Before I could even log in, turn off auto updates and start the SU download Samsung and the Play store started pushing updates so fast that it initally messed up my SuperSU download.
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I have rooted the stock ota 4.4 on my boost s3. De-bloated a ton of crap, wiped all cache but Titanium BU is still reporting a system ROM size of 1.57GB. Can this be correct? Has anyone else seen this?
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I have rooted the stock ota 4.4 on my boost s3. De-bloated a ton of crap, wiped all cache but Titanium BU is still reporting a system ROM size of 1.57GB. Can this be correct? Has anyone else seen this?
I'm running Wicked-X and it's 1.54GB.

These TouchWiz ROMs are big.
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I'm running Wicked-X and it's 1.54GB.

These TouchWiz ROMs are big.
Wow! I thought I was looking at about 400MB. So I'm just under the 2GB max. Thanks, I thought something must have been wrong.
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Wow! I thought I was looking at about 400MB. So I'm just under the 2GB max. Thanks, I thought something must have been wrong.
Nope. You're all good. AOSP ROMS like AOKP , CM11, etc are a lot smaller.
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My next post will be a new-be guide for rooting the KitKat OTA. I'm hopeful that JD, Wetbiker and others will check it for accuracy. I just wanted to give back a little.
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This is a new-be guide compiled by a new-be in an effort to give back to this forum, that has been so helpful to me. It is almost entirely plagiarized from works by JD, Wetbiker and the many other brains of this forum.

Warning! This beginners guide is only for the Boost Mobile variant of the Samsung Galaxy S3 Model SPH-L710 already running the stock OTA Android version 4.4.2 KitKat. You will trip the Knox flag and void your warranty using this or any other rooting method that I know of. Proceed at your own risk; I am in no way responsible for your loss of warranty or any problems you may experience during or after this rooting process. However, it worked out very nicely for me. Samsung makes a great product that you are unlikely to brick if you follow this guide.

1. To start with you will need to have, or download, the following files:

A. Make sure you have the Samsung USB drivers installed on your computer.
You may find those here:
http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=US&CttFileID=5321994&CDCt tType=SW&ModelType=N&ModelName=SPH-D710&VPath=SW/201212/20121217102504170/Samsung_USB_Driver_for_Mobile_Phones_v1.5.14.0.exe


B. Make sure you have Samsung’s Oden installed on your computer.
You may find Odin 3.07 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1168421
Unzip the downloaded file. You will use the ODIN.exe file.

The first thing you'll need to root this phone is a custom recovery. We will be using Philz Touch Recovery. It performs beautifully on this device and is packed with features.

2. Next you will need to download the custom recovery tar. (NOT the zip file)
Here's a copy of the latest Philz Touch recovery tar that I used (d2lte.tar ver6.47.7):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446393


3. Place phone in USB Debug Mode.
You will need to activate Developer Options first. The OTA 4.4.2 KitKat hides this mode. Go to Settings, About Device and tap Build Number several times. Go back one menu and Developer Options will appear below Date and Time. Check the box for USB Debugging. This YouTube video will help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcFVRDZ5Z9Q

4. Turn off your Boost Samsung Galaxy S3 and remove any case you may have on it. You will need quick access to your battery later on.

5. On your PC, launch the ODIN.exe file that you downloaded.

6. In ODIN, click the PDA section and select the d2lte Philz Recovery tar you downloaded. Uncheck Auto Reboot and F.Reset Time!! Make sure NO partition options are checked!!

7. Put the Sprint Galaxy S3 SPH-L710 in Download Mode by pressing and holding down the Home, Volume Down and the Power button together. A warning screen will come up; press the Volume Up button to enter Download Mode.

8. Connect your phone to the PC via the USB cable that came with your phone.

9. Check ODIN. A small box on the upper left should turn blue and the dialog box must display "Added!!"
**make sure you have unchecked auto-reboot and F.Reset Time**
Select "Start" and wait for it to finish. (i.e. Flash d2lte.tar in Philz Recovery)

10. After it is complete, Odin will say PASS! After you see this, disconnect the USB cable from your phone and pull the battery out of your phone.

11. Reboot to recovery. Place the battery back in. Press and hold down the Home, Volume Up and the Power buttons together. Hold all three buttons until you see the blue text that says "Booting into recovery". As soon as you see this blue text let go of all three buttons!
You are now in Philz Touch Recovery! You can navigate through the menus either by touching the desired entry to select it, or using the Volume Up and Volume Down buttons to scroll and the Power Button to select the desired entry.

12. Wipe cache and dalvik cache (good habit) using your Philz recovery.

13. Select Philz Settings. Then select Reroot option under Settings. Next select Apply SuperSU. (You will click yes to this option after you click yes to reroot). It will instruct you to go to Google Play Store and download SuperSU.

14. Reboot your phone from the Top Menu in Philz Recovery.
(Note: After I rebooted my phone both the Play Store and Samsung started pushing updates to me at a rapid pace. If this happens to you just wait it out and then download SuperSU)

15. Download/Install the latest SuperSU from the Play Store

16. Open SuperSU from your phone’s App Drawer, click yes to the "Disable Knox" prompt.

17. You now have Root Access!

18. Profit!!


INFO:
1. To get my SD card access back I installed SDFix by NextApp. It worked like a charm.
2. I don’t use it much, but I have a WiFi hotspot working. I installed the paid app WiFi Tether Router by Fabio Grasso. Be sure to go to his website and configure the app for our carrier per his instructions. This is the only app I could get to work.
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There have been several requests for this type of newbe guide lately. I don't think many are finding it here. Is there a way to make it more visable? It may not be that useful but if others think it would be helpful to new members just let me know how to do it. Thanks in advance!
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