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Old April 6th, 2013, 06:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Can you activate a sprint iPhone 4s on boost mobile?

As we all know, boost mobile is sprint's little sibling and have the coverage, but not much of the same phones. So is it possible to activate a sprint iPhone 4s on boost mobile??

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This is actually a question I'd be interested in getting an answer to as well. I don't believe so, but if it is at all possible, then more power to me LOL.
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I have not looked into this in maybe a year, but at that time you could only activate phones that had esn's in there database, and that database excluded sprint smart phones, but did have some of sprints non smart phones such as the sprint branded incognito and htc touch pro 2 but even those were getting hard to get activated and none of sprints phones could be used to start an account.
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I have not looked into this in maybe a year, but at that time you could only activate phones that had esn's in there database, and that database excluded sprint smart phones, but did have some of sprints non smart phones such as the sprint branded incognito and htc touch pro 2 but even those were getting hard to get activated and none of sprints phones could be used to start an account.
So like maybe? and I heard about that too so maybe its not possible? And isn't there like a way to get a bad esn or something?
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So like maybe? and I heard about that too so maybe its not possible? And isn't there like a way to get a bad esn or something?
You could go to boost website sign in and try updating handset with the esn you have from the iphone, if that dont work try calling them see if they can manually add it.

However I doubt either of those will work.

I dont know if you can use the iphone on boost using the cloned donor phone method Never had an iphone to try it with.
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You could go to boost website sign in and try updating handset with the esn you have from the iphone, if that dont work try calling them see if they can manually add it.

However I doubt either of those will work.

I dont know if you can use the iphone on boost using the cloned donor phone method Never had an iphone to try it with.
Well where can I find it on the iPhone? And what's the cloned donor phone method?
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I do not know where the esn can be found on the iphone, if it has a removable battery its usually under the battery on a sticker.

in android you can find it under about phone in settings, but I have never even held an iphone in my hands so im lost as to where in software you would find it.

This link will tell you basics on the donor phone method will it work with iphone, dont know, it will (with some alternative work) work for any sprint android that I know of.

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I do not know where the esn can be found on the iphone, if it has a removable battery its usually under the battery on a sticker.

in android you can find it under about phone in settings, but I have never even held an iphone in my hands so im lost as to where in software you would find it.

This link will tell you basics on the donor phone method will it work with iphone, dont know, it will (with some alternative work) work for any sprint android that I know of.

Evo 4G to Boost Mobile Guide/Evo 3D
Damn sounds complicated and well it sounds like theres a risk in it, and can I use the esn in my android phone?
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Damn sounds complicated and well it sounds like theres a risk in it, and can I use the esn in my android phone?
which android phone do you have on boost now?

You can use the android esn but if you cant get the nv items from the phone it wont connect to the 3g data.

As for wimax or lte you would have to have both phones compatible and get even more info from the donor phones.

Do you live close to jacksonville fl by any chance? I bought the full version of cdma ws and if you lived close I would try to get the iphone on boost for you I would like experience working with one.
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which android phone do you have on boost now?

You can use the android esn but if you cant get the nv items from the phone it wont connect to the 3g data.

As for wimax or lte you would have to have both phones compatible and get even more info from the donor phones.

Do you live close to jacksonville fl by any chance? I bought the full version of cdma ws and if you lived close I would try to get the iphone on boost for you I would like experience working with one.
I have the LG Marquee and what are NV items? And well the iPhone 4s supports 4g but the LG Marquee doesn't support 4g. And well I live in the west coast so no I don't live close to there.
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NV items that is the partition that the phone number and network encryption passwords are stored.

If you want voice you only need the esn number, but if you want data the phone needs to sign in with its id and password to access the network.

That is a bit of an over simplification but it should help give you the idea.
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NV items that is the partition that the phone number and network encryption passwords are stored.

If you want voice you only need the esn number, but if you want data the phone needs to sign in with its id and password to access the network.

That is a bit of an over simplification but it should help give you the idea.
Hhmm so to get the NV items, I just need to activate the iPhone successfully with the esn and then sign into the network with the I phone's I'd and password?
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Hhmm so to get the NV items, I just need to activate the iPhone successfully with the esn and then sign into the network with the I phone's I'd and password?
If boost will add the iphone esn to there system the system will do everything for you, it would be like using a boost mobile phone.

But if you can not get them to add the esn to there system then IF you can sucessfully change the meid/esn on the iphone to your marquee's esn and IF
You can sucessfully pull the marquee's HA and AAA password and put them into the iphone then the iphone will work on boost mobile, boost will think your still connected with the marquee.

To pull the HA and AAA passwords from the marquee and to put them on the iphone you would need programs such as QPST and QXDM and CDMA WORKSHOP that is provided on those 2 phones, the marquee, and iphone the information can be accessed, some phones that information just cant be accessed except by the manufacturer.
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If boost will add the iphone esn to there system the system will do everything for you, it would be like using a boost mobile phone.

But if you can not get them to add the esn to there system then IF you can sucessfully change the meid/esn on the iphone to your marquee's esn and IF
You can sucessfully pull the marquee's HA and AAA password and put them into the iphone then the iphone will work on boost mobile, boost will think your still connected with the marquee.

To pull the HA and AAA passwords from the marquee and to put them on the iphone you would need programs such as QPST and QXDM and CDMA WORKSHOP that is provided on those 2 phones, the marquee, and iphone the information can be accessed, some phones that information just cant be accessed except by the manufacturer.
Damn man so much work. And what if I just jailbreak and unlock it?
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It is a sprint phone right?

That is CDMA technology, the unlocked ones your thinking of are GSM technology they use sim cards that have the information instead of having it on the phone. With those you can unlock the phone so it can be used by other GSM providers. Then you just put a different carriers sim card in and you can use the new carrier. In many ways that seems like the better approach.
Too bad its not possible with CDMA.
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I highly doubt if the Sprint iPhones will ever work on Boost. Never heard of it. There was some talk about it on hofo but after giving birth to a site that did it for you on a per device basis the hoopla quickly died down. Service was very unreliable and the only ones that really worked consistently were the metro and cricket ones... but they already allowed you to bring your own phone so what was the point you ask? Guess that's why the hoopla died down swiftly.

Plus soon after cricket announced their own iphone devices and there was another nail in the coffin. There's not much news around about this or even the possibility of it. I'd like to be proved otherwise. There as a huge market in flashing if we can get the iphone on boost. All the iphone fanboys will pay dearly for this solution.
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It is a sprint phone right?

That is CDMA technology, the unlocked ones your thinking of are GSM technology they use sim cards that have the information instead of having it on the phone. With those you can unlock the phone so it can be used by other GSM providers. Then you just put a different carriers sim card in and you can use the new carrier. In many ways that seems like the better approach.
Too bad its not possible with CDMA.
Well yea the sprint iphones also have a sim card, so it is possible to unlock it and what not and wow


so is there like a 50/50 chance then to try activating it with boost?


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I highly doubt if the Sprint iPhones will ever work on Boost. Never heard of it. There was some talk about it on hofo but after giving birth to a site that did it for you on a per device basis the hoopla quickly died down. Service was very unreliable and the only ones that really worked consistently were the metro and cricket ones... but they already allowed you to bring your own phone so what was the point you ask? Guess that's why the hoopla died down swiftly.

Plus soon after cricket announced their own iphone devices and there was another nail in the coffin. There's not much news around about this or even the possibility of it. I'd like to be proved otherwise. There as a huge market in flashing if we can get the iphone on boost. All the iphone fanboys will pay dearly for this solution.
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Sprint iphones have a sim slot. Doesn't mean they have a gsm antenna in the device. Why make two different molds? Just make one and the sim slot on one is just for show.
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Sprint iphones have a sim slot. Doesn't mean they have a gsm antenna in the device. Why make two different molds? Just make one and the sim slot on one is just for show.
Soo what.... it can't be unlocked or even be activated with boost mobile?
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Soo what.... it can't be unlocked or even be activated with boost mobile?
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Bingo.
Wow thanks for crushing my dreams -.- well then I guess I gotta face the truth
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Well I could have let you go on until you lost money.

If you're an iPhone lover and like month to month, no contract, what about T-Mobile? If you have a GSM iPhone, they may work with you under the new deals they offer.

If you have the Sprint iPhone, you may be able to trade it for one you need.
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Well I could have let you go on until you lost money.

If you're an iPhone lover and like month to month, no contract, what about T-Mobile? If you have a GSM iPhone, they may work with you under the new deals they offer.

If you have the Sprint iPhone, you may be able to trade it for one you need.
Im not an iphone lover i like androids way better but, well here is the thing, I found it and well I'm getting tired of my LG marquee so might as well get an upgrade so I wanted to ask the boost forum community and well I found some pretty useful answers and well I prefer to stay with boost cuz of shrinking payments so yea
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Im not an iphone lover i like androids way better but, well here is the thing, I found it and well I'm getting tired of my LG marquee so might as well get an upgrade so I wanted to ask the boost forum community and well I found some pretty useful answers and well I prefer to stay with boost cuz of shrinking payments so yea
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Yep, after all you snooze you lose
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@Optimus: That won't work since Boost doesn't have a BYOD program. The only method I know of to get a non-Boost phone on their network is by flashing and I've not heard of any iPhones being flashed to Boost. I see tons of Evos though.

@Kolosus: GSM radios work on both Sprint and Virgin iPhone 4S models. Problem is that the SIM is carrier locked which doesn't really make much sense at all since neither support LTE nor do they operate off GSM. It is a silly idea to put a SIM slot on a locked non-LTE CDMA phone, but that's exactly what Sprint did.

@Early: I would personally go for Virgin's iPhone simply because it's $35 for unlimited data with throttling kicking in after 2.5GB as opposed to T-Mobile's $50/month plan throttling you after 500MB.
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I did not think boost would add the esn. I too have never heard of iphones flashed to boost.
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101 questions?! Can we get the quick and dirty?
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Here's the quick and dirty -

The methods there are illegal. Note the dates on the thread, that's from nearly 3 years ago.

They discuss borrowing and cloning ESNs. Not ok.

There isn't an easy way.

Getting CDMA phones to work on other networks requires changing some identification numbers that don't change with a rom or operating system update - think of these numbers like the VIN number on a car.

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Well I heard of only a couple people being able to do it but they had to use software like CDMA workshop to change the prls and what not and so if I wanted to use the esn from my LG Marquee with the iPhone would that be considered illegal?
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Well I heard of only a couple people being able to do it but they had to use software like CDMA workshop to change the prls and what not and so if I wanted to use the esn from my LG Marquee with the iPhone would that be considered illegal?

VERY VERY grey area, I believe the the way the law is written you can not have more then one phone with the same esn, nor could you sell a phone with a modified esn.
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VERY VERY grey area, I believe the the way the law is written you can not have more then one phone with the same esn, nor could you sell a phone with a modified esn.
Why is that?
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Cell phone cloning used to be where you could intercept other peoples phone calls/make calls using someone else s minutes it was deemed illegal and so it still has that bad image.
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Wow I never thought of it that way hmm so its illegal in the US?
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Old April 10th, 2013, 10:15 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Why is that?
Read my post above.

It's for the exact same reason that two cars cannot share a VIN number.

The airwaves are a public resource under Federal jurisdiction.

You don't get on the air without proper registration and proper licensing.

Id values, like your ESN, are part of that.

Some of this is very black and white, not gray. The laws actually discuss ESNs apart from the latest DCMA ruling.

Good news - this thread is heading for a lock, I've done my best to clarify.
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Read my post above.

It's for the exact same reason that two cars cannot share a VIN number.

The airwaves are a public resource under Federal jurisdiction.

You don't get on the air without proper registration and proper licensing.

Id values, like your ESN, are part of that.


Some of this is very black and white, not gray. The laws actually discuss ESNs apart from the latest DCMA ruling.

Good news - this thread is heading for a lock, I've done my best to clarify.
I agree with you, I do however think that all cell phones should be like the gsm phones as long as your phone is unlocked, your phone is paid for in other words, you should be able to take it over to any other carrier that uses the same technology.
So for phones with sim card pop out the sim and in with the new, sim cards range in price from free to $15 and so should cdma esn transfers to a new carrier.
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Well I heard of only a couple people being able to do it but they had to use software like CDMA workshop to change the prls and what not and so if I wanted to use the esn from my LG Marquee with the iPhone would that be considered illegal?
As you didn't purchase the iPhone and have no idea of its present ESN status, yes.

Illegal.

If you screw up and the phone's been reported, and you're caught, maybe tomorrow when you go to sell it, you could face prosecution for trafficking in stolen goods.

There are legal ways to transfer an ESN.

We won't be discussing it for your found iPhone.

Please don't call that unfair of me.

Most people would think that it's honest to get a phone to its rightful owner. Easily done by taking it to the carrier.

You are owed nothing here on this, certainly not help to profit at the expense of someone who lost their phone.

Think of my ruling this way:

You snooze, you lose.
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