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Old August 25th, 2010, 10:37 PM   #351 (permalink)
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if thats the case i am probably going to have to find an different phone, samsung is up to their old tricks of poor support with thier phones
Can't come to a decision until the fix is released and applied to my device.

As it stands right now, with wireless networks disabled, I'm able to obtain a lock while walking in two minutes outdoors. Google Maps got my position dead on in less than 30 seconds. Under three minutes for a Google Maps lock isn't bad for a mobile phone and I know there are devices out there which perform better.

And on top of that I have an external bluetooth GPS receiver and the app to use that on the Captivate was 4 dollars, so I'm not 100% upset at the device for it's lack of GPS performance. Yes it could be better but that's what hardware revision 2.0 is for

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Can't come to a decision until the fix is released and applied to my device.

As it stands right now, with wireless networks disabled, I'm able to obtain a lock while walking in two minutes outdoors. Google Maps got my position dead on in less than 30 seconds. Under three minutes for a Google Maps lock isn't bad for a mobile phone and I know there are devices out there which perform better.

And on top of that I have an external bluetooth GPS receiver and the app to use that on the Captivate was 4 dollars, so I'm not 100% upset at the device for it's lack of GPS performance. Yes it could be better but that's what hardware revision 2.0 is for
Well the GPS alone isn't what i am worried about, it just seems like samsung isn't really supporting the phone. Its a known issue on multiple versions of the Galaxy s phones. If the only fix samsung is going to offer is to use wireless networks , then I am going to be a bit hesitant in repurchasing the phone since samsung sounds like they are more worried about the next tablet or phone that they are selling ?
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Then I would expect us as consumers to take this matter into the courts and demand an answer from Samsung. A post on a twitter account saying Fix Soon is in no way acceptable after spending $200-300 or more for the unlocked device AND/OR having the two year agreement with your wireless provider.
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I bought my first Captivate new from ATT store a few weeks ago. GPS worked great then stopped working. Tried many of the above settings, to no avail.

Finally returned/exchanged for new handset today to rule out isolated hardware issue. New one worked great out of the box, then got flaky by the time I left work.

I started wondering if any of my apps I downloaded had bogarted control of the GPS somehow so I did a hard restart (factory reset). Seemed to work again but lots of intermittent issues still.

Not sure what this adds to the discussion other than another datapoint. I am willing to wait days or even several weeks IF a patch will eventually fix the problem.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 11:28 PM   #355 (permalink)
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I bought my first Captivate new from ATT store a few weeks ago. GPS worked great then stopped working. Tried many of the above settings, to no avail.

Finally returned/exchanged for new handset today to rule out isolated hardware issue. New one worked great out of the box, then got flaky by the time I left work.

I started wondering if any of my apps I downloaded had bogarted control of the GPS somehow so I did a hard restart (factory reset). Seemed to work again but lots of intermittent issues still.

Not sure what this adds to the discussion other than another datapoint. I am willing to wait days or even several weeks IF a patch will eventually fix the problem.

The GPS will work flawlessly right out of the box, but then it will start to flake out as time goes by. I tried on two different captivates :-(
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Can someone with a new phone that is experiencing poor GPS performance try this:

In settings under Location and Security, uncheck Use wireless networks and leave GPS satellites checked.

From the phone, dial *#*#1472365#*#* to enter LbsTestMode.

Application settings: In order from the top to the bottom of the list:
Tracking, S/W Test, Standalone, Hot Start, On, On, 50, On, Off.

SUPL/CP Settings:
Custom Config, www.spirent.lcs.com, 7275, ON, SUPL.

What I do is enter LbsTestMode, delete GPS data and hit Get Position Test. That'll usually grab a lock in 2-3 minutes. I'll wait until the accuracy is less than 15 meters. Press back until you are at the home screen, enter Google Maps and try to Get position.

Following that procedure, does the GPS seem better or more predictable?
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Old August 26th, 2010, 12:59 AM   #357 (permalink)
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What do you all think of this? According to Engadget, Samsung told them:

"We have tested and validated both Network Assisted (indoor) and Autonomous (outdoor) GPS on the Epic 4G.
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Here is a recent video review of the Epic 4G and even though it locks on very fast, it's still totally inaccurate. The blue dot spans 2 streets at times!

Our "fix" better be *much* more accurate than what they have on the Epic 4G.

YouTube - Samsung Epic 4G for Sprint - GPS Test (vs. Captivate)
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if I remember that article samsung told them to turn on wireless networks to get gps to work. That in my book isn't an fix
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I went to an AT&T store last night and asked about the fix for the GPS problem. They said that they didn't know there was a problem.

I'm thinking class action lawsuit.
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I"m not going to jump to that conclusion until the official release of the fix comes out. Who knows if these debug releases are even intended for the GPS fix. The dates on them is quite a bit before they announced they are fixing it.
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I"m not going to jump to that conclusion until the official release of the fix comes out. Who knows if these debug releases are even intended for the GPS fix. The dates on them is quite a bit before they announced they are fixing it.
I am going to give samsung benefit of the doubt on this one, i really like this phone, but i also want to be assured that samsung will actually support the phone. I will patiently play the wait and see game its only an month more i hope that we will have to wait to see gps fix.
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Our "fix" better be *much* more accurate than what they have on the Epic 4G.

YouTube - Samsung Epic 4G for Sprint - GPS Test (vs. Captivate)
That was pathetic. At least its not just an ATT issue....
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That was pathetic. At least its not just an ATT issue....
its an issue on all galaxy s phones. I think samsung has just told everybody to use wireless networks thats why theres that big circle still i believe, dont quote me on that tho .
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Can someone with a new phone that is experiencing poor GPS performance try this:

In settings under Location and Security, uncheck Use wireless networks and leave GPS satellites checked.

From the phone, dial *#*#1472365#*#* to enter LbsTestMode.

Application settings: In order from the top to the bottom of the list:
Tracking, S/W Test, Standalone, Hot Start, On, On, 50, On, Off.

SUPL/CP Settings:
Custom Config, www.spirent.lcs.com, 7275, ON, SUPL.

What I do is enter LbsTestMode, delete GPS data and hit Get Position Test. That'll usually grab a lock in 2-3 minutes. I'll wait until the accuracy is less than 15 meters. Press back until you are at the home screen, enter Google Maps and try to Get position.

Following that procedure, does the GPS seem better or more predictable?
Why would you continue to mislead people by posting this?

Do you understand what you are suggesting?
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Old August 26th, 2010, 10:05 PM   #365 (permalink)
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Do I have a problem if I'm getting it within 30 meters?
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Do I have a problem if I'm getting it within 30 meters?
30 meters isn't great. That's over 90 feet. Good GPS on a phone will typically get 3 meters (9 feet) or less. I routinely see 10-30 meters myself, but it jumps all over the place and can jump from 10 to 100 meters and back again in a matter of seconds.
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So wait i don't understand i run the google maps and it always fails and can never find me and also i was on the phone with them at and t helping to set up my voicemail etc.. I was told i don't have due to the fact i have to pay for at and t navigator?
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So wait i don't understand i run the google maps and it always fails and can never find me and also i was on the phone with them at and t helping to set up my voicemail etc.. I was told i don't have due to the fact i have to pay for at and t navigator?
Att wont give support for google map from what i hear , they are trying to be sneaky and make you pay for their att nav program.
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Yeah i figured BULLCRAP!!! Now this really annoys the crap out of me but there will be a hack for that eventually anyway.
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you guys worry me. i just got my first smart phone, a sony x10 which in my particular case, was a complete lemon. nothing the forum guys (and gals) gave as advice could help my piece of crap phone.
So i luckily have been offered by the new company i just signed up with, for the sony, to either.
a. get out of my contract (which is 36 mths) completely.
b. get another sony x10...uh..no!!!!
c. they are getting the captivate exactly one mth from now and if i wait it out with my lemon..that force closes nonstop...i can exchange for the samsung.
but...and i say but..one of the biggest issues with my sony crashing all the time...was gps and google maps crashing. So i was left stranded in a new city i moved to and do not know my way round.

It sounds like most like this phone for function..but if i have to leave one buggy phone...for another with a huge gps problem..i am replacing one bad apple (pardon the pun) with another.

any advice? (this captivate is due on rogers here in canada september 22 for orders and fulfillment by mth end approx)
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A potential fix has been spotted in the wild: (rom)i9000xfjm6 - xda-developers
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Awesome news!
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Anyone going to give it a shot?
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Default Settings: Use Wireless Networks 'ON'

I first tried the "Easy Fix" for T-Mobile's Samsung Vibrant GPS Issues" because several Captivate users had success with that fix. I didn't see improvement.

So, I tried this fix and was frustrated because my problem worsened. Then I remembered that I had turned off <settings:location and security:use wireless networks>, as suggested in the other instructions and did not turn it back on after rebooting. Once I did this it worked beautifully. (Thank you!)

I am posting this as a reminder to those who have tried this fix and are seeing no improvement or a worsened situation.
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I'm one of the lucky ones whos GPS worked the first week, then would not lock on at all thereafter. I did some diggin' on the XDA forum and the following settings work really well for me in my location( Palmdale, CA ):
Application Settings/Operation Mode/MS Based
Application Settings/Operation Mode/SkyHook/ON (VERY IMPORTANT)
SUPL/CP Settings/Server FQDN Type/Custom Config
SUPL/CP Settings/Server/supl.google.com
SUPL/CP Settings/Server Port/7276
SUPL/CP Settings/SUPL Secure Socket/Off
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I'm one of the lucky ones whos GPS worked the first week, then would not lock on at all thereafter. I did some diggin' on the XDA forum and the following settings work really well for me in my location( Palmdale, CA ):
Application Settings/Operation Mode/MS Based
Application Settings/Operation Mode/SkyHook/ON (VERY IMPORTANT)
SUPL/CP Settings/Server FQDN Type/Custom Config
SUPL/CP Settings/Server/supl.google.com
SUPL/CP Settings/Server Port/7276
SUPL/CP Settings/SUPL Secure Socket/Off
Is this with Use Wireless networks enabled?
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Nope, leave wireless networks unchecked. Im getting g a GPS lock within 8 seconds.
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Sept 1, 2010....wonder when we will get the update
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Then I would expect us as consumers to take this matter into the courts and demand an answer from Samsung. A post on a twitter account saying Fix Soon is in no way acceptable after spending $200-300 or more for the unlocked device AND/OR having the two year agreement with your wireless provider.

Court? Sorry to sound so harsh but... what a joke!
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After trying these "fixes" I can at least get a lock although as you can see - it isn't too precise. According to this tracking, I was running through my neighbor's yards and hopping fences...
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Court? Sorry to sound so harsh but... what a joke!
Right spend money for something and get very little in the way of support. Might work for you but not me.

Please explain why I should settle for a Samsung Galaxy S device on AT&T which experiences sub-par GPS performance.
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My money is on that we'll be having GPS issues 2 yrs from now on the galaxy phones. Samsung will do what Samsung has a proven history of doing...and that is fix the problems in Galaxy S 2 phones.
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Application Settings
Session Type: Tracking
Test Mode: S/W Test
Operation Mode: MS Based
Start Mode: Hot Start
GPS Plus: ON
Dynamic Accuracy: ON
Accuracy: 100
Use Skyhook: ON
Use PC Tool: OFF

SUPL/CP Settings
Server FQDN Type: AUTO Config
SUPL Secure Socket: ON
AGPS Mode: SUPL

Post 319, thank you, THANK YOU!!! I now have a secure lock with in 1 foot of my location, even closer. I followed directions and also have skyhook on. I do NOT have my "use wireless networks" checked. Seems to hinder the lock. I was ready to take my second Captivate back today. Have tried everything. Hope it lasts.
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Why do people keep posting nonsense about the GPS update not going to happen or will happen sometime in the distant future. They have come out and said it will be in september, if it isn't I don't think they would make a statement like that. There are numerous letter responses that users have posted from AT&T and Samsung about the update coming soon. The only thing that these type of comments are doing is scaring off potential users. God forbid the update being a month or 2 late, I rather have a bug-less fix then something rushed out because people are so impatient...
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FWIW, I am on my second Captivate, during my 30 day evaluation window.

My first one, i tried all of the above settings, and even left 3G geolocation on to prime the ephermeris for the local almanac.

Didn't matter, no lock.

The new one, I get lock on 7-8 satellites from a pool of 9-10. Accuracy is 16.4 feet. This is persistent through a hard boot, and without wireless networks enabled.

Now, I have heard some say that GPS worked perfectly when their Captivate was new, and then it got progressively worse.

Just throwing out my data points. As long as the GPS functions work and my WiFi functions (though it is still 1/2 of an ipod touch, but still better than the earlier model), I am happy.

Now, my Captivate seems the equal of the EVO 4G I had, plus it is much more pocket-friendly and portable.
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pocket friendly indeed lol, glad its working. Post back next week and let us know if its still working for you
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I been using the supl.google.com server which is also the default on the galaxy s i9000 rom. I get locks in 30 seconds now. Where the spirent server was producing locks in two or three minutes. I restored the stock captivate rom JF6 on Tuesday this week. So far still good and use wireless networks is not enabled.
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For what its worth...
I have been lurking around trying to glean as much as possible on this GPS deal. I had screwed with my settings as mentioned early in this post, but had intermittent luck.
Just today, I sat down and made sure I had everything perfectly as described...(my "operation mode" was not set to "MS based"). I now get a lock within 10 - 20 seconds.
Google maps got my location perfectly within 30 seconds.
I will monitor my Captivate randomly and keep you posted on any drastic changes or SNAFUs.
I will say this...I've only had WinMo phones by HTC in the past. This Captivate is light years ahead as far as I'm concerned.

All the best!

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I have been lurking around trying to glean as much as possible on this GPS deal. I had screwed with my settings as mentioned early in this post, but had intermittent luck.
Just today, I sat down and made sure I had everything perfectly as described...(my "operation mode" was not set to "MS based"). I now get a lock within 10 - 20 seconds.
Google maps got my location perfectly within 30 seconds.
I will monitor my Captivate randomly and keep you posted on any drastic changes or SNAFUs.
I will say this...I've only had WinMo phones by HTC in the past. This Captivate is light years ahead as far as I'm concerned.

All the best!

RH
****UPDATE*****
I tried again this AM...wouldn't lock in Google Maps, but locked when using the *#*#147... So, I uninstalled Maps, went to Market and reloaded Maps. Now I get my location in under 60 seconds.

Just FYI

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Old September 12th, 2010, 11:26 AM   #391 (permalink)
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Application Settings
Session Type: Tracking
Test Mode: S/W Test
Operation Mode: MS Based
Start Mode: Hot Start
GPS Plus: ON
Dynamic Accuracy: ON
Accuracy: 100
Use Skyhook: ON
Use PC Tool: OFF

SUPL/CP Settings
Server FQDN Type: AUTO Config
SUPL Secure Socket: ON
AGPS Mode: SUPL

Post 319, thank you, THANK YOU!!! I now have a secure lock with in 1 foot of my location, even closer. I followed directions and also have skyhook on. I do NOT have my "use wireless networks" checked. Seems to hinder the lock. I was ready to take my second Captivate back today. Have tried everything. Hope it lasts.
I just tried this also and i have lock within 15 seconds inside my house. I will test it while driving today.
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Old September 24th, 2010, 10:56 AM   #392 (permalink)
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Those of you who cannot get the OTA update to install, here is a flash-able version of it that is flashed through Clockwork:

I897UCJH7 - OTA System, Kernel, Modem - Clockwork Flashable - Rooted - xda-developers

It has also been posted on the OP
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 11:59 PM   #393 (permalink)
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I had loads of GPS issues today, I had upgraded over the air with the AT&T fix that apparently does little to fix GPS problems. What the fix does do however is disable that LibTestModeMenu that you can access to change GPS settings.

Luckily something that does the same thing is in the Market. LbsTestModeLaunch - Android app on AppBrain

I used the quick fix here and it seems to help a lot, I can get a lock pretty fast now, but I'll be testing this in the future.
Quick fix for GPS issues on your new Samsung Galaxy S series phone | Android Central


Ok so just quickly here's what I did to get a quick GPS fix

#0. Get the over-the-air At&t update if you haven't already, go to Settings>Software Update, Check for update
#1. Download GPS Status and GPS Test -- both good GPS testing programs
#2 Download LbsTestModeLaunch by Tomatox in the Market
#3 Open LibTestModeLaunch, ... Under “SUPL/CP Settings” Change the SERVER & PORT
to supl.google.com and port 7276. Don't forget to write down your old settings before you change them.
#4. Click «Delete GPS Data»
#5 Go to clear area outside, and do «Get Position Test»... you should be able to get an accuracy of <15 meters.
#6 Do some testing with either GPS Status or GPS Test apps, hopefully you can get a lock fast now.
#7 For still more testing, Open menu > settings > Location & Security. Unheck the box next to "Use Wireless Networks", and try to locate on Google Maps using only GPS. Don't forget to turn this back on, because it definitely helps... but for testing you'll want to turn it off.
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Oh one more thing to add, I think I linked to a different article... this one has step #1 which I think is important to try again after you apply step #2 --- GPS Fix for Samsung Galaxy S and other Android Phones | Social Media Marketing & New Media Agency in India - Media Redefined / Blog
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I performed a software update on my phone last night Android 2.1 Update1. Now the *#*#1472365#*#* no longer works for me to get into the GPS settings. Any ideas?
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This worked.....thanks.
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I don't remember if I typed anything in. Whatever I did fixed it. This was a month or so ago. But it involved resetting or clearing something in an app called GPS status. Wish I could remember.

But there are enough things to try in here so don't try just one thing and give up.
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