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Old February 1st, 2012, 07:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone tried it? Will I be able to re-root if I update?

Casio G'zOne Commando Receiving Update C771M100 With Free Push-To-Talk And Various Bugs Fixes

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Latest security patches is normally code for closing exploits...

(so most likely not, because the current way of rooting is a closed exploit)
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On top of that, my small fleet tried the PTT from Verizon on our Casio Boulders when we switched from Nextel Service. Verizon PTT is pretty poor in audio quality, and it has long delays between "push" and the audible que to "talk".....and it varies from instant to more than a few seconds.
We dumped PTT service within a month of switching. I am not surprised they are now offering it for free.......it's not worth a monthly charge.

Besides.....if you enable it you lose the tactile key to PTT. I use mine to activate mapping while driving.

Another issue I would have with updating.....
2.1.1 was much faster and less glitchy than the current 2.3.3.
I would imagine this latest update will only make things slower.

I hope to return to 2.1.1 someday......if it happens before I replace my Commando in 15 months or so. 2.1.1 would keep me using it for longer than planned.
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Oh man, really ?

I really would like to have PTT for work. There is no way I can exchange my phone, I have the GNM recovery installed. Did anyone figure out how to do away with it?
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Do you think they will care what you have installed? Mine was only rooted, but they never questioned it when I got a replacement. I bet they just cleaned it and zapped a new OS. I would not be surprised if it now belongs to a user on this board.......it was in excellent shape, physically.

Maybe PTT has improved, or lost enough users to free-up bandwidth?
We got rid of it a few years ago.......it may have been improved.

I felt too stupid to take on the recovery. Can't help you there.
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Can anyone tell me why when i go to Innopath Activecare and check for new update it tells me that there is no update????

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Probably because verizon isn't pushing it yet.
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Probably because verizon isn't pushing it yet.
When do you think it will get pushed??
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When do you think it will get pushed??
Sometime between now and 2016.... I honestly have no clue, and think i'll cause more problems than it's worth...
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i thought this update was going to allow me to zoom when i'm using the highest resolution.... i read this wrong.... so the only thing they're really adding is a push to talk app that utilizes the side button. isn't there already push to talk apps on the market???

and what is GMS Gingerbread R8? What would be different?
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isn't there already push to talk apps on the market???
There are a slew of PTT apps on the market. None of them will let you PTT with any of the other VZW phones that have PTT, like the Ravine, Bolder, Brigade, Motorola's or the Blackberry's. I would imagine as Nextel starts getting shut down VZW will be getting a fair portion of the +/-5 million people still using Nextel for a wide area PTT solution.
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Now that my phone is rooted and using GO EX, will the update return my phone to the pre-rooted version or will it just not work?
Now that I have my phone working and looking the way I like it, I really dont care about the push to talk. I loaded Tikl and it does the same thing.

Any info would be great before I accept the "update".

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My experience with the last update (November) was that it wouldn't run rooted. When I tried unrooting it with superoneclick, then doing a factory reset, it still wouldn't run. It would download, then the progress bar would get to about 25% and the phone would reboot. Then there was an error message. At that point I said to hell with it and re-ran superoneclick and cleaned house of all the vzw garage again.

I restored Innovpath last night, it downloaded the 080 build (the November one not the new 100 build) and did the same thing. That's why I was asking rjglenn what he was doing that I wasn't when his unrooted with a factory reset. I still don't understand it, but the phone runs well and I'm happy with it like it is. Paxchristos is probably right that the "security fixes" in the new build will eliminate the possibility of re-rooting, so I'm just going to leave it alone...unless ICS happens to push to the Commando. YMMV.

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My experience with the last update (November) was that it wouldn't run rooted. When I tried unrooting it with superoneclick, then doing a factory reset, it still wouldn't run. It would download, then the progress bar would get to about 25% and the phone would reboot. Then there was an error message. At that point I said to hell with it and re-ran superoneclick and cleaned house of all the vzw garage again.

I restored Innovpath last night, it downloaded the 080 build (the November one not the new 100 build) and did the same thing. That's why I was asking rjglenn what he was doing that I wasn't when his unrooted with a factory reset. I still don't understand it, but the phone runs well and I'm happy with it like it is. Paxchristos is probably right that the "security fixes" in the new build will eliminate the possibility of re-rooting, so I'm just going to leave it alone...unless ICS happens to push to the Commando. YMMV.

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I have read that you could not root the version 2.3.3, but after I loaded the latest version of superoneclick it rooted the phone fine and I now have superuser access. The latest version of superoneclick had the zergrush with it and that apparently is what is needed to root the 2.3.3.
I'm just worried that if I do accept the latest update it will ruin all the time it took me to get it where it should be for now.
I guess that since its rooted, I do not have to automatically accept the download?? This way I can wait for superoneclick to get whatever programming is needed to root the updated version.
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I have read that you could not root the version 2.3.3, but after I loaded the latest version of superoneclick it rooted the phone fine and I now have superuser access. The latest version of superoneclick had the zergrush with it and that apparently is what is needed to root the 2.3.3.
I'm just worried that if I do accept the latest update it will ruin all the time it took me to get it where it should be for now.
I guess that since its rooted, I do not have to automatically accept the download?? This way I can wait for superoneclick to get whatever programming is needed to root the updated version.
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That's because SuperOneClick is being constantly updated with every new exploit they can find. It took about 3 weeks (looking back over a thread from xda) (also, a relatively short period, it took me 6 weeks (from when I got my phone (Xperia Play) until root was available, longer if i had gotten it soon :P) from the update until root was re-achieved. If you disable (freeze) Inno-path, then yes, you won't have ever have to worry about getting updates again...
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If you disable (freeze) Inno-path, then yes, you won't have ever have to worry about getting updates again...
So that is the trick! Just freeze Inno path and wait for Superoneclick to have the ability to root, then unfreeze, update and run SOC.
Awesome!
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i thought this update was going to allow me to zoom when i'm using the highest resolution.... i read this wrong.... so the only thing they're really adding is a push to talk app that utilizes the side button. isn't there already push to talk apps on the market???

and what is GMS Gingerbread R8? What would be different?
Just use camera zoom fx to zoom at high resolutions (up to 6x) and a much better camera.
https://market.android.com/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&feature=search_result# ?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsInNsaWRlLmNhbWVyYVpvb20iXQ..
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Just use camera fx zoom to zoom at high resolutions (up to 6x) and a much better camera.
https://market.android.com/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&feature=search_result# ?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsInNsaWRlLmNhbWVyYVpvb20iXQ..
You know any zoom on a cellphone camera is just digital zoom, right, which just means it crops and blows up pixels, right? (normally at much lesser quality)
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Pax speaks the truth. I read about a lens built into a rubber band somewhere though that could help... Btw where it's 090 the release notes for this(100) say return led functionality. Mine still works after 080 so maybe this isn't actually ready for release yet and they goofed the press release.
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I have a unique situation and need to side load the update. Anyone able to help me get access to the update file? Thanks in advance
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I have a unique situation and need to side load the update. Anyone able to help me get access to the update file? Thanks in advance
As of right now, no. (update M080 is the latest, and it's not too big)
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You know any zoom on a cellphone camera is just digital zoom, right, which just means it crops and blows up pixels, right? (normally at much lesser quality)
I realize this!
No cell phone has optical zoom.
I know he could just use the stock camera at high resolution and crop it and he'll get the same results, but that's not what he asked.
But thanks for pointing out the obvious.
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...No cell phone has optical zoom...
No not true, the Casio Exilim phone had a 5.1mp camera with 3x optical zoom.

Now back on topic, anyone start receiving the update yet?
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A little while ago when I was on the VZW site to pay our bill I noticed this.
“Push To Talk
Select any of the following features:

Unlimited Push to Talk

Push to Talk on your BlackBerry and use it like a walkie talkie. Get instant 2-way connection with one person or a whole crew of up to 50 people.”

This option was in the “change features” section for my commando.
The odd part was for the other 3 PTT capable phones we have on our account the PTT option was not available.
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No not true, the Casio Exilim phone had a 5.1mp camera with 3x optical zoom.

Now back on topic, anyone start receiving the update yet?
That's pretty cool, but certainly not the norm.
I stand corrected.
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just tried the update on mine says there is no new ones available yet ??? any ideas ???
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Just updated mine today.
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Just updated mine today.

Let us know how it works for you.
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Just updated mine today.
and if you can re-root it with the update.

I have Innopath frozen so I do not get it automatically
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Can someone post up their installed-recovery.sh file? It will be in the /system/etc folder. I want to do an experiement.
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rjglenn, here is my stock recovery if it helps.
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Yup the download is available now. I downloaded it and installed it. I did un-freeze my bloatware just incase. I did not un-root. It unrooted me, I will try to re-root tomorrow. There is a new video app and music app as well as the Push To Talk app. I don't have anyone to try the PTT app with so I can't tell you how the quality is, but there is a tutorial video you can view.
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Just curious... If I freeze Innopath, do I still get updates for apps and such from the market? Or does that totally kill being able to get any updates at all?
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Just curious... If I freeze Innopath, do I still get updates for apps and such from the market? Or does that totally kill being able to get any updates at all?

Yes you will still get normal app updates

As far as the update goes VZW can keep it IMO. We all know they aren't going to remove any bloat so adding anything is just going to slow my phone more and decrease battery life. No thanks!
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M100 cannot be rooted.
I tried it last night on my wife's phone, and zergRush gets "Hellions with blue flames"

That means the hole for zergRush is patched.
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M100 cannot be rooted.
I tried it last night on my wife's phone, and zergRush gets "Hellions with blue flames"

That means the hole for zergRush is patched.
That is the main reason to wait until superoneclick finds the way in!
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Does anyone know why we got a new music app with this update? It's much larger than the other music app which they also left on the phone. Also, why does it have to run in the background all the time?
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Does anyone know why we got a new music app with this update? It's much larger than the other music app which they also left on the phone. Also, why does it have to run in the background all the time?
if it's googles's music player, that might be because they wanted you to have it (because, of course, big red knows better than you :-P )
On the other hand, it might be big red's music player, "encouraging" you to buy music from them... (I'll look at my wife's phone tonight and fix my post)
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if it's googles's music player, that might be because they wanted you to have it (because, of course, big red knows better than you :-P )
On the other hand, it might be big red's music player, "encouraging" you to buy music from them... (I'll look at my wife's phone tonight and fix my post)
Yep, I thinkit is google music player, because when you do a search to find an artist it does a Google search. Great! Now we have two and I don't really play music from the phone.

Also, now my internal memory has jumped up to over 260mb with nothing on the phone (all on the SD card)

Can't reroot either. I knew I shouldn't have updated.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 04:18 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Any positives?
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Verizon pushed out an update :-P
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i downloaded mine. no difference yet for me except the colors on the screen seem a little more vivid( probably just my eyes). I'm wanting to know if anyone had got the PTT to work yet i couldn't figure it out .
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After update my memory is at 237MB used internal storage and idles about 178MB used ram, battery seems about the same (after 2 days running) I don't like the new music player interface, I can't stand stuff that changes color randomly without me asking it too, the "3G" indicator at the top of the screen seems larger I might be crazy but it seems... I have no major improvements to note, I still have the one bug that drives me crazy, unknown compatability issue for HSP BT profile.
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yeah the 3g icon is bigger
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Still looking for the install-recovery.sh script file from M070. I am wanting to go back to a stock recovery.
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For sure Goggle music because now it wants to update it along with the new videos and verizon video. Not happy my internal memory is filling up with this junk and more ram is being used. We need a new root. ugh!
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how do you flash the dump-recovery.img?
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Sir, I've been asking that for months. But no one has given me the step by step lol
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Not happy that I have lost root. Luckily I had left a few things frozen, they have not unfrozen after the update. So missing my root now though. PTT was not worth losing root.
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Did the new google music overwrite the old Music app, or do they exist side-by-side now?
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