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External and internal pics + user manual up at fcc site.

No specs on phone but looks like there will be wireless charging and extended battery options.

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Nice find. Dual cameras and wireless charging both ook interesting. Let's hope Verizon doesn't screw it up with bloatware and making it so difficult to root.

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Download fails every time.
I think it is the crappy browser on my Asus Transformer Prime.
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Nice, it all worked for me. Now the question is when? A few things online state April 2013. But when officially? Hopefully soon!
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glad to see they kept the drop-in charging contacts. I doubt you can have both the extended battery (2920ah!) and wireless charging. That is twice the current of the C771 battery. I hate charging plugs. Drop-in and extended sound like a good combo for my use. Wish they could do the extended coover with wireless charging!

Funny that the pics show and describe an atmospheric pressure sensor, but the manual does not mention it.
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Looked through the manual and it does not show the phone as having 4G service. Can that be?

Looking at the icon list in the manual it only shows 3G. Can't be! Must have 4G or its a no-go for me!
Why leave it out?
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I guess you missed page 8 of the manual?
It shows a picture of the back of the phone....and the "4G-LTE" logo.

Niether Verizon nor Casio are stupid enough to introduce this as a 3G device.
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I guess you missed page 8 of the manual?
It shows a picture of the back of the phone....and the "4G-LTE" logo.

Niether Verizon nor Casio are stupid enough to introduce this as a 3G device.
I agree and after zooming in see the 4G logo.

However, if you look at page 30, it shows all the icons used on the phone and there is not a 4G icon listed. 3G is top on the list. Maybe not the final printing?

They wouldn't be that dumb, but they could be!
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You are correct....I should have said "I hope they are not that dumb".
I think you are correct on the final printing too.......someone missed that in the current manual. Verizon really wants to move users to LTE.
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External and internal pics + user manual up at fcc site.

No specs on phone but looks like there will be wireless charging and extended battery options.

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout =500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=240582&fcc_i d=%27TYK-JDS9507%27
it looks like a lot of the same parts form the commando. great cause i have spare parts from other old casio phone sacrifices!
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Screw Casio......I will wait a few months and get this:
http://www.thinkdigit.com/Mobiles-PDAs/Rugged-Samsung-Galaxy-S4-Active-to-hit_14440.html

A rugged phone with specs that match the best non rugged phones!
Root friendly too!
Glad Samsung is doing this with the S4!
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Just so happens that I went into a Verizon company store and asked a manager if they knew of the new Casio phone. His reply was that its coming soon, but they have not received any training or info on the new unit yet. He also stated that when the phone is released, they are given one DAY of training which takes place about a week before the release. He has received nothing. . . . yet.
He also said that the 6/6/13 date is not going to happen since they tend to get the stands, placards, accessories, etc, prior to the release date.
He thinks mid July.
This was the first Verizon person I've talked to that actually knows about the phone. I'm not due for an upgrade til August, so I have a little time.
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I hope the casio is worth it....for those who are waiting.

I just replaced mine with a Galaxy S4 and put it in an Otterbox Defender case.

This device is blindingly fast and powerful. "Blindingly" is an understatement at best.
It consistently scores 25000 on Antutu and in the 12000's on Quadrant.......only 10 to 12 times the scores of the average casio. Lol
In actual use.......it really seems 10 times as fast as the casio. The speed is jawdropping.
GPS lock is faster than any device i have ever seen. It has barometer, thermometer, and humidity sensors built in. Wifi is excellent. Screen is beyond amazing with full hd resolution. Touch screen has a glove mode for winter use. Exchange support works flawlessly......and the new calendar app includes support for tasks.

I am quite pleased with all the features and have no regrets.
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Touch screen has a glove mode for winter use.
That would be a very useful feature even here in summer, when I ride my motorcycle or long driving trips where I use my driving gloves.
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I like the idea of the S4 active. An otterbox is not the answer for me. To bulky/nasty looking.
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Based on my experience with the Commando, Casio is one of the best with support on their phones. I've never had an issue with a software update. Just my commando suffered from a lack of ram and room for apps. I still have one for a backup.
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Finally official! June 27th, $99 on 2-year.

Casio G'zOne Commando 4G LTE lands on Verizon with faster data, more letters
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Finally arrives, and it is so OLD. Gee, do I wait and hope for that the Active comes to Verizon (and soon, my commando is dying quickly), or jump on this and have a phone that is "5 years old" 2 years from now, when I can get an upgrade???
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Finally arrives, and it is so OLD. Gee, do I wait and hope for that the Active comes to Verizon (and soon, my commando is dying quickly), or jump on this and have a phone that is "5 years old" 2 years from now, when I can get an upgrade???
There is always an S4 when the Otterbox Armor comes out for it.
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There is always an S4 when the Otterbox Armor comes out for it.
do a cannon ball in your friends pool with any other android phone and let me know how it works after After I asked my friend to get it ( I can't dive down12 feet) it worked fine. needed a new battery later, though :P
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Let's see:
4G... that's nice, but hardly a selling feature.
Better camera. But 8Mp is somewhat quaint compared to some of the phones with 10+ out there. At least this time we get a front camera... I've taken so many blind selfies...
The display is a big disappointment. It's the same resolution as the current Commando.
Android is only updated to ICS? Really? This phone has been out in Japan for a year already, and they haven't managed to get aboard the Jelly Bean express?
1.5 dual-core... a bit lacking in the world of 2.0G quad-cores. Still, a nice jump up from the dumpy 800Mhz we currently have.
1GB of ram. Again, not horrible, but it would have been nice to get a bit more now that other phones are creeping past it. 16GB card (GOD, please let it be a card... Verizon has pulled that crap before... I still have things on my old Type-S that I can't get off because they yanked the card for the US version...) can be upgraded. I hope. Still, pretty wimpy even for stock.

Other things not mentioned: Battery life. The FCC stat leak imply that it has an anemic 1800mAh battery. In a world where the RAZR with a quarter of the thickness and better performance can get a 3300, why can't we? Especially for a phone being marketed as going out into the woods for hours.

I'll probably end up getting one. But I had hoped that Verizon might sneak in a few upgrades for the US market. Boo on them!
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do a cannon ball in your friends pool with any other android phone and let me know how it works after After I asked my friend to get it ( I can't dive down12 feet) it worked fine. needed a new battery later, though :P
Considering the Armor exceeds the Commando standards I imagine it'll be fine.
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Other things not mentioned: Battery life. The FCC stat leak imply that it has an anemic 1800mAh battery. In a world where the RAZR with a quarter of the thickness and better performance can get a 3300, why can't we? Especially for a phone being marketed as going out into the woods for hours.
I don't care much about the other specs but the battery size/life is what kills it for me. Very disappointed.
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well if you bought a second battery, 1800+1800=3600, you just have to switch it out. At least the batteries in these phones are replaceable
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well if you bought a second battery, 1800+1800=3600, you just have to switch it out.
Good point. But while switching out batteries in the field is not that big of a deal, I think remembering and going through the hassle of recharging each battery to 100% each evening would grow tiresome quickly.

I just discovered that a 2920 mah will be available separately which should solve the capacity issue. Just hope they don't charge a fortune for it...
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I wonder if my old charging cradle will work?
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There are accessories such as:

2920 mAh battery
Wireless charging cover
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Considering the Armor exceeds the Commando standards I imagine it'll be fine.
oh my bad did not know how different and rugged the s4 active is vs. s4, and with an otterbox case. it won't have all the outdoor features like the commando or commando 2, but lets think of it as Samsung "getting their feet wet" in the world of outdoor rugged smartphones.
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But while switching out batteries in the field is not that big of a deal, I think remembering and going through the hassle of recharging each battery to 100% each evening would grow tiresome quickly.
That is true as well, especially when you have 7 batteries and only 3 phones to charge them with. It can get tiresome. But still, the point remains.
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I bought the Commando 4G on Thursday evening. I had gotten a Moto Razr Maxx HD back in October, but about a month ago it did not survive an encounter with a hardwood floor. I went back to my old Commando and suffered a month of weak processor and 3G. These are my initial impressions.

- I like the overall size better than the Moto. The corners are rounded, it’s slightly smaller and feels better in my hand and against my ear. It’s easier to use one-handed than the Moto. The screen is more sensitive than the old Commando.
- The screen is plenty big and has more life-like colors than the Moto's cartoonish over-colored Super AMOLED screen. I have a 10 inch tablet and a 50 inch TV. Big screens aren't the be all end all.
- The processor and RAM are the same as the Moto, and are nice and fast. In my view, there are processors with more cores and phones approaching the size of tablets with more RAM, but I wonder how often that will come into use. My son has a Galaxy S4 and I don’t find it was faster and it was almost big enough to require a trailer hitch to bring it with you.
- The old Commando’s charging cradle does not fit this phone. The contacts are on the opposite side and it's just a tad too long to fit.
- The 1800 mAh battery is underwhelming after one day’s use. I ordered the 2920 battery this morning, along with a cradle and both have shipped.
- FM radio the old Commando and Moto don’t have.
- ICS instead of JB. This is probably the weakest point. There’s always hope for an upgrade and go Wiki the difference between the two. Mainly it’s Google Now, that I turned off on the Moto because it was creepy having the damn thing follow me around.
- Global Ready like the Moto.
- Internal storage is 16 gb and about 10 is available to the user.
- The wall charger of the old Commando puts out the same amount of juice as the new wall charger. Both are micro USB so can be interchanged.
- If I had bought another Moto outright it would have been $649 plus tax. That comes out to right at $700 in Houston. This was $479. Add the battery and the cradle and tax, and it totals about $580.

The only thing I find dismaying so far is the compass seems to point exactly opposite. At my house I know which way North is….the compass shows South. Calibration didn’t help. I guess I need to “RTFM”, but have to download it because the “FM” doesn’t come in the box.

If anyone has specific questions, ask.

Update: I turned on GPS and it got it's first fix. After that I turned the GPS back off and noticed that the compass had found its sense of direction. I wouldn't have thought one had anything to do with the other.

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I bought the Commando 4G on Thursday evening. I had gotten a Moto Razr Maxx HD back in October, but about a month ago it did not survive an encounter with a hardwood floor. I went back to my old Commando and suffered a month of weak processor and 3G. These are my initial impressions.

- I like the overall size better than the Moto. The corners are rounded, it’s slightly smaller and feels better in my hand and against my ear. It’s easier to use one-handed than the Moto. The screen is more sensitive than the old Commando.
- The screen is plenty big and has more life-like colors than the Moto's cartoonish over-colored Super AMOLED screen. I have a 10 inch tablet and a 50 inch TV. Big screens aren't the be all end all.
- The processor and RAM are the same as the Moto, and are nice and fast. In my view, there are processors with more cores and phones approaching the size of tablets with more RAM, but I wonder how often that will come into use. My son has a Galaxy S4 and I don’t find it was faster and it was almost big enough to require a trailer hitch to bring it with you.
- The old Commando’s charging cradle does not fit this phone. The contacts are on the opposite side and it's just a tad too long to fit.
- The 1800 mAh battery is underwhelming after one day’s use. I ordered the 2920 battery this morning, along with a cradle and both have shipped.
- FM radio the old Commando and Moto don’t have.
- ICS instead of JB. This is probably the weakest point. There’s always hope for an upgrade and go Wiki the difference between the two. Mainly it’s Google Now, that I turned off on the Moto because it was creepy having the damn thing follow me around.
- Global Ready like the Moto.
- Internal storage is 16 gb and about 10 is available to the user.
- The wall charger of the old Commando puts out the same amount of juice as the new wall charger. Both are micro USB so can be interchanged.
- If I had bought another Moto outright it would have been $649 plus tax. That comes out to right at $700 in Houston. This was $479. Add the battery and the cradle and tax, and it totals about $580.

The only thing I find dismaying so far is the compass seems to point exactly opposite. At my house I know which way North is….the compass shows South. Calibration didn’t help. I guess I need to “RTFM”, but have to download it because the “FM” doesn’t come in the box.

If anyone has specific questions, ask.

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Plan on selling your old Moto?
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No, I hadn't planned on selling it. It's inoperable.
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I have the new Commando, upgraded from an original Commando. I love it. I'm not a big online user by phone, but the speed seems lightyears ahead. I watched a movie, surf the net and email much faster, the screen is bigger and seems brighter. The FM radio is pretty cool, but you have to use earphones because the phone uses the earphone wiring for an antenna.

I have the extended battery. It comes with a rubberized humpback cover that locks into the case to accommodate the larger battery. YES, it DOES work with the drop in cradle (the new one, the previous model Commando cradle does not work with the new model).

So far, I really love it, the improvements for me are tangible and having an extended battery option was the deal maker for me.
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The only thing I find dismaying so far is the compass seems to point exactly opposite. At my house I know which way North is….the compass shows South. Calibration didn’t help. I guess I need to “RTFM”, but have to download it because the “FM” doesn’t come in the box.

If anyone has specific questions, ask.

Update: I turned on GPS and it got it's first fix. After that I turned the GPS back off and noticed that the compass had found its sense of direction. I wouldn't have thought one had anything to do with the other.

David
Don't forget to go through the electronic compass calibration procedure. You hold the phone like a lightsaber and move it in a "figure 8" motion. Part of the setup IIRC.
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Anyone figure out how to silence the camera shutter? I am using CAMERA ZOOM FX and it was able to silence the shutter on my Commando One using it. On the Commando 2, after trying Camera Zoom FX has a popup advising that some phones won't allow the silenced shutter option.

I understand some people felt a silent shutter led to pictures taken w/o people's knowledge, sometimes for creepy purposes, but taking pics of sleeping babies or animals, etc. is hard with an audible "click."
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