Yup; I updated my sticky. Great news. And they confirmed something I never was completely sure about. If the ENG bootloader is leaked (and it was for the E3D), then all you need is an exploit that gives you a temp root shell, and then from there, you can flash the ENG bootloader and overwrite the original one.
So, we're actually in a really good position here with a full Evo 3D root. We may not need to wait for HTC after all. This phone looks to be rooted just like the Evo 4G (not the unrEVOked method).
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Yup; I updated my sticky. Great news. And they confirmed something I never was completely sure about. If the ENG bootloader is leaked (and it was for the E3D), then all you need is an exploit that gives you a temp root shell, and then from there, you can flash the ENG bootloader and overwrite the original one.
So, we're actually in a really good position here with a full Evo 3D root. We may not need to wait for HTC after all. This phone looks to be rooted just like the Evo 4G (not the unrEVOked method).
Exactly, ive been watching over there and it has been a hassle, but if and i say if, we may be golden
Bah, I took the OTA, though. Hopefully the OTA hasn't fixed the instability that they found and the possible root exploit works.
From what I read, HTC has no knowledge of this hole, and therefore the OTA likely didn't close it. There's always a chance that it was accidentally closed, but odds of that are small.
So basically, the devs are keeping this hole a secret until the root exploit is developed.
Again, due to the instability of the hole, a root exploit might not be possible. But we can hope for the best.
P.S. for a while, I saw your username as jeROFLd, but I could never come up with any words that could stand for je and d.
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1. OTA updates: The reason not to accept an OTA now is for the next stage, getting s-off. Now that HTC is aware that we have a very likely exploit to their latest generation of devices, they may push an OTA that makes getting s-off.harder.
2. Sensation: I'm pretty sure it will work on the sensation, although it may need a few minor tweaks.
3. Secrecy: The reason we're not releasing the details of the exploit yet is to prevent a forced or even optional OTA from closing the hole before we can use it for root. Without root, we can't do much to prevent OTAs.
4. Timeline: Let's be fair. It does take time to go from a hole in the kernel to root. We're working blind here. Because we have no source tree in hand, and no root, we are punching holes in the kernel in the dark. We have some tools to help, but it's still a challenge. I wouldn't expect anything released before the weekend.
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heck yea.. same here.. so is there an OTA that is out? i havent updated since the first one came out..
edit.. just checked.. there is no updates.. in htc software..
No, but people are speculating that once HTC learns of a possible root exploit, they may push out an OTA that might make unlocking the bootloader harder. At this point, we have to assume that despite what HTC promised, their current position with the E3D is that it remain locked until THEY are ready to unlock it, whenever that might be.
So, if you've already accepted the last OTA which brought the bootloader to 1.40, you can go back if you wish. I'll stay with 1.40 for now and only go back if it's necessary to apply a root exploit. Knowing that I CAN go back with the RUU is good enough for me.
But don't accept any more OTA updates, even if it promises to allow your E3D to grant you 3 wishes, even if one of those wishes is for an iPhone.
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I suspect we'll see in tandem: root, s-off, install stock rooted rom - and somewhere in that mix - applying CWM or Amon Ra recovery or the like.
Show of hands - who wants to go down this path without recover? Not me.
DonB - so... that's a no-click on the credit link and more Courier? Not trying to be a font Nazi, but it's just a little hard to read on the mobile browser for me....
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It took me 11 months to root my 4G and flash a ROM and I'm so mad I didn't do it sooner. This last week with the 3D has been a rough one, especially trying to get all of my stars back on Angy Birds
im not a rooter.. im just part of the sheep and keep things stock. however this is pretty exciting news.. especially when it went from nothing this weekend to root imminent! yeah good job..
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I will not root without recovery option, and yes you can, LOL How is that now, lol
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I suspect we'll see in tandem: root, s-off, install stock rooted rom - and somewhere in that mix - applying CWM or Amon Ra recovery or the like.
Show of hands - who wants to go down this path without recover? Not me.
DonB - so... that's a no-click on the credit link and more Courier? Not trying to be a font Nazi, but it's just a little hard to read on the mobile browser for me....
If I intend on rooting this and using (for now) the stock rooted ROM, what does a recovery do, how do I get it/use it, and why is it good to have? I want to make this phone my own, and I'm going to be asking many questions along the way until I get it.
If I intend on rooting this and using (for now) the stock rooted ROM, what does a recovery do, how do I get it/use it, and why is it good to have? I want to make this phone my own, and I'm going to be asking many questions along the way until I get it.
It's your fallback position to a working rom in case you bork something while rooting.
Also, the name of the component that allows you make full image backups, aka, nandroids.
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question is if someone will port/create a recovery in time for the root exploit or not.
And something tells me you're going to have to live with Sense for a while longer post-root
I would expect 2-4 weeks until we even get a cm port with all the work with drivers and such to be done. Remember the evo was rooted well before its official release so it had a head start. But the folks over at cm are pretty diligent
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Alright, so it's just having a backup. Backup=Recovery. Note taken.
Also, I thought scientific progress went "Boink?"
recovery= gui that has permissions to read and or write to all aspects of the phone. you do backups through recovery and you flash roms in recovery as well as a host of other things
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Yes you need to root to be able to flash recovery, but I will not root unless I am sure we can flash a recovery, I want to make sure even if I stay stock, that I can back up, I will worry about flashing afterwards.
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This is AWESOME News....
DonB...No Root without recovery??....You have to Root to Flash recovery....right?
Sense3.0 its been a WONDERFUL week - YOU'RE F*&%IN FIRED.
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Right but assume if you update to this rom via bootloader then it updates your rom with a rooted version?
no, you need an eng or unlocked bootloader to flash a recovery to flash a rom. this rom will not be signed with htc's encryption key so it will fail if you try to flash it as a pg86img.zip. you can try but it will fail.
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Yes, until root details are given and Clockwork can be installed, flashing any ROM that isn't signed by HTC will fail.
They also have only uploaded the Deodexed version. I don't know how things work in HTC land, but in Motorola land, we typically woud have to flash the base ROM then flash the deodexed version over it.
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Yes, until root details are given and Clockwork can be installed, flashing any ROM that isn't signed by HTC will fail.
They also have only uploaded the Deodexed version. I don't know how things work in HTC land, but in Motorola land, we typically woud have to flash the base ROM then flash the deodexed version over it.
the rom itself it deodoxed, its all you need to flash
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Sweet, I like simplicity. Flashing Moto ROMs got to be a checklist. Flash these 3 zips, reboot, wipe the device, reboot into CWM, flash the deodexer...
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so is there an OTA that is out? i havent updated since the first one came out..
