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Old August 18th, 2011, 10:05 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I've been sending twitter complaints - please join me.

http://twitter.com/#!/htc

An hour ago they had the audacity to brag that they'd accomplished something for us.

And - how does one intend to install su without recovery?

OK - you could attempt the su install via the Market.

Doomstang, you might give that a shot.
I installed Superuser from the market and it gave an error and said it placed a .zip on my SD card that needs to be installed via recovery.

I also sent a tweet letting HTC know their process has gotten me nowhere.

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Right now the implied benefit is that anyone who has taken the update - AlphaRevX no longer works - they changed the bootloader.

And, I suppose for some, a root from the manufacturer is philosophically attractive.

Otherwise, unlocked is unlocked, s-off is s-off, superuser access is root - those things will get you anywhere, regardless of how achieved.

so unlocking the s-off thru the mfg means you are rooted? I'm confused.
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If that were true...shouldn't there be a way for me to get superuser permissions right now? I need a working recovery to get to that point though so for the moment...I/we can't even get that far.
If it were true...it wouldn't be the end of the world for me anyway because all I realllllly want is Wireless Tether.
Oh wow, I was just skimming the post, didn't know about superuser permissions & recovery. So what was the point of unlocking the bootloader? To delete some bloat?
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unlocked + s-off + installation of a recovery package (Clockwork Mod or TWRP) + installation of superuser permissions = a fully rooted Evo 3D with nand access

And with this phone, you have to get nand (rom) access before getting recovery and you need recovery to install superuser permissions. Superuser permissions = root.

And all HTC has provided is a way to get to the first part - unlocked - and as of this post, there's no going further.

HTC needs to give more.
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Oh wow, I was just skimming the post, didn't know about superuser permissions & recovery. So what was the point of unlocking the bootloader? To delete some bloat?
Other than changing the bootloader message, it seems to do nothing.

People were removing bloat this morning before this even hit.
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Other than changing the bootloader message, it seems to do nothing.

People were removing bloat this morning before this even hit.
Not true, it does do something else: It voids some or all of your warranty because you have elevated access!

However, I do hope they fix this issue, soon. I couldn't find anything in the Sensation forums about them having this problem. Maybe I'll try XDA's Sensation forum, next. Seems all the active posters in this forum used revolutionary.
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My phone auto updated somehow to HBOOT 1.50.. Now im screwed.. Thanks HTC..
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OK - one guy said he was able to install a specific version of Clockwork Mod using the fastboot method ->

xda-developers - View Single Post - HTC Unlock Is now working

If that works, the su zip is next, and then you have root access.

Not sure: it may only accept signed roms...

But that's a step in the right direction.

Once you got recovery on a Nexus - even with s-on - the doors opened wide.
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He finally posted it: Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites!

Flashed that and it worked...installed Superuser and restarting phone now

Edit: wellll I still get the $ sign in that terminal and I'm pretty sure I don't have superuser permissions yet. hmmmmm
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He finally posted it: Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites!

Flashed that and it worked...installed Superuser and restarting phone now

Edit: wellll I still get the $ sign in that terminal and I'm pretty sure I don't have superuser permissions yet. hmmmmm
Is Super User in your app tray? If so, download something that requires root, but is quick and easy to use. Like Adfree or ES File Explorer and set it as Root Explorer in the settings menu.
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Couldn't get wireless tether to work...booted back into recovery and am doing a Backup now. Once that's done i'll try again.

Oh and FYI to anyone wondering, the working recovery is Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4
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When installing superuser I get the error:
E:Can't open /sdcard/su-2.3.1-bin-signed.zip (bad)
Installation aborted.

Waiting for a reboot so I can put a different SU .zip on the sd card and try again.

Edit:
Ok...found a "su-2.3.6.3-efgh-fixed-unsigned.zip" and that one seemed to install without error. Restarting now to see if it works.
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Well I think I've finally gotten somewhere...Wireless Tether was just successfully granted Superuser permissions.
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Well I think I've finally gotten somewhere...Wireless Tether was just successfully granted Superuser permissions.
Yay!! I've been following your progress and am glad to see this!!
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Please use the one found in the revoluntionary.io wiki and see if that gets you there -

http://goo-inside.me/superuser/su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip

Don't sweat wireless tether - go to that as your last step - we have whole threads on getting what version of that to work in what way.

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OK - sounds like you're about there - inside Terminal, if you see a $ prompt, just type in:

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and that should give you a superuser request followed by a # prompt.
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If I was able to use "su-2.3.6.3-efgh-fixed-unsigned.zip" is there any benefit for me to switch to the "su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip" that you posted?
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Couldn't get wireless tether to work...booted back into recovery and am doing a Backup now. Once that's done i'll try again.

Oh and FYI to anyone wondering, the working recovery is Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4
You will probably find that your phone won't charge while off with that version.

We can try more later - loving the progress!!!!
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If I was able to use "su-2.3.6.3-efgh-fixed-unsigned.zip" is there any benefit for me to switch to the "su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip" that you posted?
If it's not broken, don't fix it - can always advance things later if needed.
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SU worked in the terminal emulator so I guess I'm good to go. Thanks for all the help guys.

I guess you can change the thread title again. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see if anyone else gets hung up on a step that I may be able to help with.
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Would be so kind as to recount how you got su to install?

And in your app drawer, you should now see Superuser.

Open that, go to Settings (tab on upper right) - uncheck Notifications and please say what version number is listed towards the bottom there.

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Im still scared! LMAO!
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Would be so kind as to recount how you got su to install?

And in your app drawer, you should now see Superuser.

Open that, go to Settings (tab on upper right) - uncheck Notifications and please say what version number is listed towards the bottom there.

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Superuser v2.3.6.3 - Database version 5
Su binary v2.3.2-efgh

When I first downloaded superuser from the market it said it placed a file on my SD card that I needed to install through recovery. That one had failed when I tried to install it so I just searched around google after noticing that there should be a newer version available. I found a thread on XDA (through google) where somebody had problems getting SU to work so someone else gave a download to "su-2.3.6.3-efgh-fixed-unsigned.zip" and said to try that. I put it on my SD card, booted into recovery, went to install a .zip, searched on SD card, found it, and it went through the process and said it was successful. I then restarted my phone and it worked
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so.. Do the HTC fix then install CWM through recovery? then SU? or can I have superuser already on my phone? This has gotten really complicated for me.. LOL!!!
But you do have S-Off correct?

Thank You Doomstang for all that you did..
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Haha no problem chris.
I still have S-On
First you do the HTC fix, then you install the CWM recovery (this IS the recovery). I chose to push it through fastboot but I think it would work simply placing it on the SD card named as PG86IMG.ZIP and then pressing Fastboot through the HBoot screen...it should then search, find it, and install.
Once you have the recovery correctly installed, you choose that option through HBoot screen and it will go to a new screen (or simply restart the phone if the recovery install failed).
After you have access to recovery you can install superuser (which I had the .zip of it placed on my sd card). You just have to search through the menus in Recovery to find something about install a .zip from SD card and then highlight the correct file.

Once I got a working recovery, I have to admit that the entire process wasn't that bad.
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Doomstang - MANY THANKS!!!

OK - now - can you install CWM 4.0.1.5 -- or do you even want to try?

4.0.1.4 has charging issues when the phone is off.
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OK - now - can you install CWM 4.0.1.5 -- or do you even want to try?

4.0.1.4 has charging issues when the phone is off.
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I guess I could give it a try....where's it at? What if I go into ROM manager and tell it to install CWM from there, think that will be ok?
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OK - now - can you install CWM 4.0.1.5 -- or do you even want to try?

4.0.1.4 has charging issues when the phone is off.
If you can't install 4.0.1.5, Doom, you may be able to charge while off if you shut down with "Fastboot" enabled in the power section, so long as you don't yank the battery. Not the best solution, but it will let you do a battery calibration.
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I guess I could give it a try....where's it at? What if I go into ROM manager and tell it to install CWM from there, think that will be ok?
That's how I installed mine - frankly, that day I was just tired of going in and out of hboot.
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I clicked update recovery in ROM Manager and it said 4.0.1.5 successfully installed after I granted it SU permissions. Had it reboot into recovery from ROM manager and the phone just restarted...so I manually went to recovery via HBoot and it fails to load and restarts the phone. I guess I'll push that 4.0.1.4 back to it now.

Safely back to 4.0.1.4 now~
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I tweeted the Clockwork Mod dev on this so he can be aware of the issue.
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This whole thing has me worried, though. Will the NANDroid backups work right? HTC just needs to let us set S-OFF and be done with it.
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I guess I don't fully understand what S-OFF achieves since I've been able to do everything I want (root access) and assume I could flash a new rom right now if I wanted. In CWM recovery I did a backup and it saved 1.42 gb of data to a folder on my SD card (that's also now saved on my computer's external HD). Am I wrong to believe I did a NANDroid backup?
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Doomstang,

If you can flash a new rom then im in since thats all i really wanna be able to do .. LOL! If not then I may just wait to see whats next from revolutionary since my phone updated to hboot 1.50.

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I guess I don't fully understand what S-OFF achieves since I've been able to do everything I want (root access) and assume I could flash a new rom right now if I wanted. In CWM recovery I did a backup and it saved 1.42 gb of data to a folder on my SD card (that's also now saved on my computer's external HD). Am I wrong to believe I did a NANDroid backup?
You indeed did a nandroid backup - but can you restore?

Seems things are sensitive to signatures on stuff. So - maybe roms will install - not sure myself...
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This video has someone going from the updated 2.3.4 EVO 3d. He never got S-off
But was able to flashed cwm, Su, even a new ROM. So I thought s-off was an unlocked bootloader.
What does s-off do then?

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How to Root Evo 3D on Win/Mac/Linux! [NEW][HTC METHOD] - YouTube
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I guess since its friday night and Im 2 beers in im not flashing anything tonight.. LOL!!!!

** Note ** Never - Ever Flash a Rom while intoxicated.. ask My 1st PSP about that one.. LOL!!!!
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I guess since its friday night and Im 2 beers in im not flashing anything tonight.. LOL!!!!

** Note ** Never - Ever Flash a Rom while intoxicated.. ask My 1st PSP about that one.. LOL!!!!
lmao, your probably right I was guna to but read tyour post but im 3 in now hmmm
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I clicked update recovery in ROM Manager and it said 4.0.1.5 successfully installed after I granted it SU permissions. Had it reboot into recovery from ROM manager and the phone just restarted...so I manually went to recovery via HBoot and it fails to load and restarts the phone. I guess I'll push that 4.0.1.4 back to it now.

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Did you try flashing CWM 4.0.1.5 through Fastboot? ROM manager may not be able to flash it because you're still S-ON.

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You indeed did a nandroid backup - but can you restore?

Seems things are sensitive to signatures on stuff. So - maybe roms will install - not sure myself...
This was my concern. Restoring the NAND may not take.
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Did you try flashing CWM 4.0.1.5 through Fastboot? ROM manager may not be able to flash it because you're still S-ON.
Yep...and I got the exact same result.

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This was my concern. Restoring the NAND may not take.
Interesting....I have not yet tried a restore. Glad to know that this may be giving me a false sense of security. At least I've got a Titanium Backup.
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Yep...and I got the exact same result.
That sucks. Stupid S-ON...
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ive did the htc unlock then flashed cwm and then did a stock backup afterwards have flashed 3 roms none of wich allow tethering to work using mullers wifi tether app the stable one on market nor any betas on his google code page need i try rooting stock and see if that works and also when in the roms 4g and regular wifi along with the sprint hotspot do not work

EDIT3 ....... cwm 4.0.1.4 using su2.3.6.3 flash package and using mullins wifi tether 3beta 3 works like a charm on hboot 1.50 and htc unlock with s-on


EDIT.... im on hboot 1.50 and i dont rememebr wich cwm i flashed but i flashed supra and bloody beast both were pre rooted with bb 1.19 get adrynaline and upto date su binarys and whitelist app im gonna try finding a kernel with hotspot support built in ill come back with progress report in a few....... s-on still
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Anyone else have success with this?
Sounds like we have a confirmed solution
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I had a stock Evo and did the latest firmware update to 2.3.4. I then proceded to the htcdev website and I can confirm that this works.

I just followed this youtube vid. Works well. How to Root Evo 3D on Win/Mac/Linux! [NEW][HTC METHOD] - YouTube

It does wipe your phone! It doesn't give S-Off but whatever!

Flashed the Unlock_code.bin that htcdev.com emailed me
Flashed cwm 4.0.1.4
Backed up my stuff
Flashed SU
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Cool.

Can you flash a 2.3.3 rom? if so can you flash modified kernel?
can you flash a different radio?
Can you you flash 2.3.3 ruu or bootloader?

Just wondering how 'unlocked' this bootloader really is.
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"To prevent unauthorized access to your data, unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data from your device including applications, text messages and personalized settings."

Does this mean if I do this i'll lose all of my data? Anyway to back it up?
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Cool.

Can you flash a 2.3.3 rom? if so can you flash modified kernel?
can you flash a different radio?
Can you you flash 2.3.3 ruu or bootloader?

Just wondering how 'unlocked' this bootloader really is.
Haven't had to do any of those yet, but I don't see why they wouldn't. Once you have CWM installed, I've never had problems flashing anything. I can also make backups and all the other stuff that comes with CWM. All I've done really is make a backup and flash SU.zip I just wanted infrastructure

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"To prevent unauthorized access to your data, unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data from your device including applications, text messages and personalized settings."

Does this mean if I do this i'll lose all of my data? Anyway to back it up?
You will lose your data. You can backup which programs you have installed by using AppListBackup (on the market) and SMS Backup (on the market) AppList won't save your game saves. So you're basically starting anew. Once you're rooted you can use titanium backup to save your game states.
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Anyone able to get wifi with custom roms? Or know of any kernels that work with 2.3.4 for wifi?? I couldn't but its time for bed haha looking forward to updates in the mornin!
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Cool.

Can you flash a 2.3.3 rom? if so can you flash modified kernel?
can you flash a different radio?
Can you you flash 2.3.3 ruu or bootloader?

Just wondering how 'unlocked' this bootloader really is.
In theory, if you were able to flash the old 1.30 bootloader through RUU, you could then S-OFF with revolutionary. Or am I off base?
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In theory, if you were able to flash the old 1.30 bootloader through RUU, you could then S-OFF with revolutionary. Or am I off base?
Thats interesting.. I would love to know that too.. This may be something to think about... Maybe? I wish I would have used the s-off tool when I had the chance..>.<
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Thats interesting.. I would love to know that too.. This may be something to think about... Maybe? I wish I would have used the s-off tool when I had the chance..>.<
[RUU] RUU_Shooter_Sprint_WWE_1-11-651-2_radio_radio_0-97-00-0518_nv_spcs_1-15_release - xda-developers

There's the RUU file. All you should need to do is rename it to "PG86IMG.zip" and stick it in the root of your SD card then reboot into bootloader (vol down + power from off state).
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