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Old December 1st, 2011, 12:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm willing to trade (many things available) or buy a phone with a bad ESN. I'm a phone flasher btw and can flash anything to cricket or metropcs if anyone needs it.


oh and if anyone has an original iphone im VERY interested. thank you

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wanna buy an epic 4g? the esn is actually good on it but we can work on a price.

also have a hero for sale with a good esn
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I've got a thunderbolt with all the original packaging a Nice Case and 8gb SD Card. It has a cracked screen but I bought a replacement screen just never installed it. Still works fine with cracks .
$115 shipped and paypaled
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Well im looking to do a trade preferably. obviously my laptop is worth more but I really need something thatll last me now. My phone was my life. I'm interested in the epic. Shoot me a message
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after seeing that laptop i dont think i want to trade.. its too old imo

if you want the epic or hero still theyre available

also i have an evo which does have a bad esn which is completely mint..id want the same as i do for the epic..
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What is it that you have to trade ? I'd possibly be willing to do a trade
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What is it that you have to trade ? I'd possibly be willing to do a trade
I have quite a few things including an alienware laptop for trade. However that's not exactly a fair trade, decently high end 17 inch laptop for phone with a cracked screen lol. But im sure something is tradable lol.PM me
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i have an evo 4g white bad esn what is on the table to trade?
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It's got a clean ESN, but I have an older HTC Touch Pro 2. Only asking $50 + shipping (probably $6 with the flat rate box from USPS). Works great
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just to update the thread me and rebel101150 have started a trade and i have shipped my end and gave confirmation #
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just to update the thread me and rebel101150 have started a trade and i have shipped my end and gave confirmation #
have recieved anything back from rebel101150 yet? i sent him $125 for an epic4g and havent recieved the phone and have not heard from him in 2 days. a number of emails sent(and his pm box is full) wth no reply from him.
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Rebel is a scamming thief he still won't return my phones and now he is trying to scam BubZX
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And me as well. And Tre peezy hasn't heard from him since he shipped his out.
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I just filed a claim against him. Anyone with a face book account try and contact him. I found him on there but i dont have face book
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I will try to contact him on Facebook hop it gets straightened out for all of us.
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FYI, the forum threads are as good as a written contract, as well as the emails if you saved them. He failed to keep the agreement made,and what he's doing is considered larceny. I already spoke with my lawyer about taking legal action if I don't receive a tracking number from him by Friday. I've been emailing him and texting him for 4 days with no reply. He went to Phases here and had him PM me to ask what I wanted. That was the only contact I had with him,was thru PM here 2 days ago.
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He actually gave u his phone number? Im going to my bank in the morning to see if i can get charge back cuz i used my card to make the payment.
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Oh yeah man. we were texting everyday. He was constantly asking for updates - then when I finally sent him tracking info.- all of a sudden no contact via text anymore - he said he was having "service issues"...The only way I could reach him was email - then he tells the mods that all I had to do was call or text him, and he would've gladly returned my phones if I was uncomfortable with the deal. He's a smart kid,slick. Very good con man.
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Oh yeah man. we were texting everyday. He was constantly asking for updates - then when I finally sent him tracking info.- all of a sudden no contact via text anymore - he said he was having "service issues"...The only way I could reach him was email - then he tells the mods that all I had to do was call or text him, and he would've gladly returned my phones if I was uncomfortable with the deal. He's a smart kid,slick. Very good con man.
Next time that happens, go down to the PO and recall your package.
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I actually called the PO where he had me ship to, because the tracking info said they left a notice,meaning no one was there to accept package - but when I called them, they said someone picked it up. The site just wasn't updated yet, so it was too late to get it returned.I next day shipped to him, because that was our agreement. I went thru hell freeing up the phones to get them shipped for him, and now I'm stuck with this POS phone that won't even connect to 3g, so I have to use it on roaming. I said I'd suck it up for the few days in between shipping, now I'm screwed.
Can't afford to buy another phone - so he got me good. There won't be a next time - lesson learned.
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He even sent me the dec number so i could call sprint and check that the phone had a clear esn. I called and it was clear and the dec number did belong to an epic4g. This was gonna be an upgraded phone of sorts for my son for christmas. he better be laying in a hospital some where and thats why we havent recieved what all our deals were for.
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should have bought my epic
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Mind throwing me the ESN #? That was my epic 4g I sent him.
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He got me good to for a palm pre plus and a storm 2 we emailed a bunch over a couple days then when I shipped and sent the tracking he disappeared for three weeks then says he moved to Ohio and never got any emails from me mods please ban him.
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Maybe it would be a good idea to keep your phones ESN/MEID number, and just report it when this happens? (Just a thought)
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I'm truly sorry that one member appears to have caused so much trouble for others. The Classifieds section relies on goodwill and an element of trust, and it's disappointing to think that someone would abuse that for personal gain.

Right now we're still trying for achieve some sort of resolution, hence no bans or thread locks. Please keep myself or Phases informed if there are any updates.
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I dont see an iTrader system on this site. Do you have one implemented? It may be a good system for later down the road. The forums I frequently buy/sell on have the system; while it's not flawless, it has helped people buy with ease and inform others of a scammer right off the bat.

Def sorry to hear about people getting burned, it makes it much harder for legitimate sellers later down the line. Unfortunately, there is the element of trust, and there are less trustworthy people in the world than there used to be.
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I dont see an iTrader system on this site. Do you have one implemented? It may be a good system for later down the road. The forums I frequently buy/sell on have the system; while it's not flawless, it has helped people buy with ease and inform others of a scammer right off the bat.

Def sorry to hear about people getting burned, it makes it much harder for legitimate sellers later down the line. Unfortunately, there is the element of trust, and there are less trustworthy people in the world than there used to be.
I have compiled a list here http://androidforums.com/classifieds/438678-ratings-feedback.html;)
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i been doing alot of research on the net about this guy. i found him trying to do the same at XDA. i posted and warned all over there as well. i got pictures and about 3 addresses of him. i have filed a dispute with amazon payments and will be going to my bank today.

if i have to visit these addresses myself and have to track him down the word food and straw will be how he tells people how he ahs to eat. he ripped off the wrong cat.
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Maybe it would be a good idea to keep your phones ESN/MEID number, and just report it when this happens? (Just a thought)

Doesn't matter. This guy gets your device, flashes them for cricket and metro pcs. Then sells them. That's why he doesn't care if the ESN is clear or not.
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Doesn't matter. This guy gets your device, flashes them for cricket and metro pcs. Then sells them. That's why he doesn't care if the ESN is clear or not.
yep thats exactly what he does. i found him on the cricket users forums and thats exactly what he is doing.

u can find anything about anyone on the web. now i know exactly where to have the court papers sent.
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Doesn't matter. This guy gets your device, flashes them for cricket and metro pcs. Then sells them. That's why he doesn't care if the ESN is clear or not.
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yep thats exactly what he does. i found him on the cricket users forums and thats exactly what he is doing.

u can find anything about anyone on the web. now i know exactly where to have the court papers sent.

Hope you all can nail him.
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He should be nailed, one day he will get caught. It is illeagal to do that, as I know this from where i used to work at at&t
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do you guys think its possible for me to have the post office ship it back to me?
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If he has already picked up the package there is nothing they can do about it
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There has to be something we can do pursue legal action maybe small claims I really don't know
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As long as we have all contact between ourselves and him, emails, forum posts, texts...etc. Legal action is absolutely possible. That's considered a contract, and he didn't fulfill it. He knows this, and that's why he hasn't answered any of the 4 of us, because he knows he's caught. He got super defensive towards me when I called him on it, and even tried to turn it around on me, and say he was pressing charges for harassment and also filing a restraining order against me...lol. If I don't hear from him by tomorrow with a tracking # for my returned phones, Bucks county sheriffs office will be knocking on his door.
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As long as we have all contact between ourselves and him, emails, forum posts, texts...etc. Legal action is absolutely possible. That's considered a contract, and he didn't fulfill it. He knows this, and that's why he hasn't answered any of the 4 of us, because he knows he's caught. He got super defensive towards me when I called him on it, and even tried to turn it around on me, and say he was pressing charges for harassment and also filing a restraining order against me...lol. If I don't hear from him by tomorrow with a tracking # for my returned phones, Bucks county sheriffs office will be knocking on his door.
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Is that what he was gonna give you? Or is that what you sent him? Because whatever he said he had for trade was a lie. He never had the Epic Touch I was supposed to receive in trade either. It was all BS so you would send your stuff first. Its a damn shame, because this one scumbag ruined it for a lot of trusting, honest members here, and now its going to be difficult for anyone to trade, buy, or sell anything here.
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Is that what he was gonna give you? Or is that what you sent him? Because whatever he said he had for trade was a lie. He never had the Epic Touch I was supposed to receive in trade either. It was all BS so you would send your stuff first. Its a damn shame, because this one scumbag ruined it for a lot of trusting, honest members here, and now its going to be difficult for anyone to trade, buy, or sell anything here.
That's why I started my ratings/feedback thread but I don't think it gets looked at as much as it should.
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Is that what he was gonna give you? Or is that what you sent him? Because whatever he said he had for trade was a lie. He never had the Epic Touch I was supposed to receive in trade either. It was all BS so you would send your stuff first. Its a damn shame, because this one scumbag ruined it for a lot of trusting, honest members here, and now its going to be difficult for anyone to trade, buy, or sell anything here.
no that's what he was suppose to send to me
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That's why I started my ratings/feedback thread but I don't think it gets looked at as much as it should.
Agreed. I wish I saw it before I sent my phones out. I never noticed the thread until you linked me to it. Should beef up the font size and color on that sticky...lol
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Old December 15th, 2011, 05:54 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I found him on the cricket forums trying to sell the blackberry storm 2 he stole from me for $50 bucks he has to be held accountable for his actions I say mods please ban him.
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Old December 15th, 2011, 06:02 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I think he self banned himself. (What?) He's caught, and I doubt he'll come back on. There's nothing he could even attempt to say to defend himself, so I doubt he'll even try. He's done, and he knows it.
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no that's what he was suppose to send to me

He never had a xoom man. Never had a Galaxy S2, never had a laptop, the only thing he has is the stuff he stole from us and others, and flashed to a different network, and sold on another forum. Its messed you, and a very serious crime. He may think its not a big deal, that nothing's gonna happen, but the value of what's been stolen is a lot, and the courts will not take it lightly.
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Can I ask who else mailed their stuff to Perkasie,PA? Just curious - because that's where mine went...also, this is who's getting a call tomorrow if I don't get my confirmation from him, which I'm sure I won't:
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Can I ask who else mailed their stuff to Perkasie,PA? Just curious - because that's where mine went...also, this is who's getting a call tomorrow if I don't get my confirmation from him, which I'm sure I won't:
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Old December 15th, 2011, 07:50 PM   #49 (permalink)
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He hasn't been back here in 2 days, but is online at the cricket forum right now. I just looked at his postings,and there's my EVO and Epic still for sale. I know they're mine, because I sent him a dock with the epic, and he has that listed in the post.
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He hasn't been back here in 2 days, but is online at the cricket forum right now. I just looked at his postings,and there's my EVO and Epic still for sale. I know they're mine, because I sent him a dock with the epic, and he has that listed in the post.

Thats the epic he was suppose to send me lol he even said it came with a "cool little dock"

I registered there today can u post up a link to the epic for sale over there?
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