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Old September 5th, 2011, 09:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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CAUTION you are responsible for anthing you do to your own phone!!! These apps have been removed by multiple people to test.

Root your phone with Superone Click.

Then get Titanium Back-up from the Market after you root and use it to remove these apps:

(*) If you want to be more cautious than I, do not remove the ones wth and asterisk before the name. Some need a replacement app before you can remove, as noted. Some are ones I removed, and I cannot find a problems removal caused.

The rest are only needed if you want them. The system could not care less if you remove them. You DO need to have your GMail account set up on the phone if you want to use any Google service: Googles backup, sync, Market, etc.

Adventure Training (Part of GzGear)
Backup Assistant (Verizon backup, redundant to Googles backup)
Bing (Search engine, loaded Google instead)
Books (I refuse to read a book on this little screen)
Calendar (I use Touchdown for Exchange support, my Cal/mail/tasks work via that program)
Calendar Storage (Only needed if you keep calendar)
Calendar Sync Adapter (Only needed if you keep calendar)
Car mode 1.0 (Don't have a car dock, the dock mode looks worthless)
Car Mode 1.0 (make that "double" worthless)
City ID (It's a pay service, tells you where a call is originating from)
Clock Widget 2.2.1 (the clock on the notification bar works for me)
Cloud 1.0 (screensaver or wallpaper)
com.nec.android.ncmc.gzgear.shortcut 1.0 (GzGear)
*com.nec.android.ncmc.hiddenmenu.feature 1.0 (?)
*com.nec.android.ncmc.hiddenmenu.program 1.0 (?)
*com.nec.android.ncmc.modch 1.0 (?)
*com.nec.android.ncmc.permission.accesstodevstapi 2.2.1 (?)
*com.nec.android.ncmc.phone.nvwrapper 1.0 (?)
Compass 1.0 (I prefer to use an app called GPS-Status)
Deep Sea (screensaver/wallpaper)
*DRM Protected Content Storage 2.2.1 (Digital rights management)
Earth Compass 1.0 (See Compass, above)
Email (installed K9 Email from Market)
GzGear 1.0 (No need for any of it)
Gmail (added my GMail account to normal email app, don't need 2 email apps)
Growing Tree 1.0 (screensaver or wallpaper)
Guided tours (I think I can figure out how to use a phone)
*Home 2.2.1 (running Go Launcher EX instead) Do not delete without a replacement running!
Honeycomb pattern (screensaver or wallpaper)
*InnopathAvtiveCare (you will not get updates without this)
Live Wallpaper Picker 2.2.1 (no explanation req'd)
Memo 2.2.1 (dumb little voice-memo tool)
Mirage 1.0 (screensaver or wallpaper)
Mobile IM 3.0.4.3 (I think this is Verizons own IM program, how many do we need?)
Moonrise Moonset (I am not nocturnal, fangs are minimal)
My Verizon Mobile (Never worked right, supposed to be app that gives you acct/useage info)
NFL Mobile (wtf do I want football info for?)
Pedometer (I don't need a phone to tall me how far I have walked)
Pico TTS
*PVMtpServiceStart 1.0 (?)
*PVWmdrmServiceStart 1.0 (more drm)
Rainy Day Popup (tells you to bring an umbrella if reports predict rain......to protect phone? LOL)
*Setup wizard 1.0 (help you set up accounts, not really needed)
*Setup wizard 1.3 (not sure why there are two)
Shockwave 1.0 (screensaver/wallpaper)
Shootingstar 1.0 (screensaver/wallpaper)
*Sim Toolkit 2.2.1 (?)
Skype Mobile (internet video calling)
Slacker (an internet radio-like app)
Social Beat (I don't know but I thought that was normally a solo activity)
Sound Recorder 2.2.1 (no need)
Star Gazer (GzGear, crappy star-finder app, I thought Google-Sky was better, have neither loaded)
Sun / Moon (GzGear, Sun/moon set app)
Sunrise/sunset (GzGear, sun rise/set app)
Sync Service (Verizon sysnc service, when I do sync, prefer to just use the Google stuff)
Thermometer (GzGear crap, Why?, phones thermometers are not very accurate)
Tides 1.0 (GzGear, Yes, there are two different apps)
Tides 1.0
Trip Memory (GzGear crap)
VCast Apps (why?)
VCast Music (why?)
VCast Tones (why?)
VCast Videos (why?)
Virtual Trek 1.0 (GzGear to let you run/trek against an opponent, I guess)
Voice Control VSuite (voice command program, not impressed)
VoiceMemo 1.0 (voice memo app)
Voicemail 1.0 (I didnt want to pay for VVM, and this app just slows you down if you want to use regular VM)
VPN Client (I don't use Virtual Private Networking)
VPN services (I don't use VPN)
VZ Navigator (I prefer Google Maps)
VZW Package Installer 1.0 (I assume this is for getting apps from Verizon store)
VZW SMS Filter Service 1.2 (No idea)
Walking counter 1.0 (GzGear, Another pedometer?)
Waterproof 1.0 (wallpaper/screensaver)
Weather 1.0 (standalone weather widget, not part of the news/weather widget)
Wiper App 2.2.1 (used to wipe phone via InnopathActivecare, Touchdown already has this)

You can also delete XT9 keyboard, IF you load another keyboard app.

You can also uninstall all the live wallpapers...If someone still has them on the phone and list them I can insert them into the list alphabetically so that people new to rooting can just go down the list and remove in succession.

Thanks to Rafael for most of the help. And to anybody else who has provided input/feedback. If you have any other apps your have removed please let us know and I will add them to the bottom of the list so we can all see the updated list. Or if you have any tips please let us know. Thanks
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Tip #1: Install GO Launcher Ex from the market and set it as default. It will get rid of that annoying snap-out menu and allow you to set the magnifying glass button to Google Search (you must download Google Search and Voice Search by Google from the Market)

Tip #2: Make a quick voicmail button. First make a contact named voicemail and enter the number as *86,,1234 (that is star 86 comma comma and then YOUR four number voicemail passcode.) This will call voicemail and enter your passcode for you. Next find an empty spot on your Home Screen and long hold, click on Shortcut, click on Direct Dial, then scroll down and select your voicemail contact.
Apps you may want to try:

Free Gingerbread Keyboard (It will allow you to use voice input anywhere the keyboard is available)

K-9 Mail (it is based off the stock email only better, MAKE SURE wifi is off when you get it from Market don't know why but you may have issues if you have wifi on)

Accuweather (was more accurate in my testing than any of the others I have tried)

My Tracks (It's from google and lets you make custom maps to use in Google Maps, kind of like dropping pins on an Iphone)
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Tip #1: Install GO Launcher Ex from the market and set it as default. It will get rid of that annoying snap-out menu and allow you to set the magnifying glass button to Google Search (you must download Google Search and Voice Search by Google from the Market)
How well does GO Launcher EX work on the Commando? I'm trying to decide between the Commando and Incredible 2...
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Works great on Commando!
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yup work great on the commando. and with this phone you dont have to worry about a thing, which is why I got it. I would have already had to replace it twice and I've only had it a little over a month. I fell off a rock into the ocean with it in my pocket and a different day i set in on my car hood and forgot about it during a pretty hefty rain and didn't miss a beat. I've also dropped it on the beach into the sand. no other phone would have made it!! but your most likely gonna want to root it to get off all the verizon bloatware and it will be as fast as you need it to be. thats easy though and there is a sub forum for that. good luck and I would get the commando if you do anything outside or think you might accidently spill a drink on it
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You can add Weather 1.0 to the list.
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yup work great on the commando. and with this phone you dont have to worry about a thing, which is why I got it. I would have already had to replace it twice and I've only had it a little over a month. I fell off a rock into the ocean with it in my pocket and a different day i set in on my car hood and forgot about it during a pretty hefty rain and didn't miss a beat. I've also dropped it on the beach into the sand. no other phone would have made it!! but your most likely gonna want to root it to get off all the verizon bloatware and it will be as fast as you need it to be. thats easy though and there is a sub forum for that. good luck and I would get the commando if you do anything outside or think you might accidently spill a drink on it
My buddy and I got our phones on the same rainy day. He got his started up, and threw it into his rainy yard haha. I still baby mine. haha
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You can add Weather 1.0 to the list.
I forgot that one too.
I use the weather/news widget, but it is not dependent on the weather app. Weather is now gone on my phone.
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I have a few questions about these apps...



TTS Service 2.2.1 this is needed for GPS correct?
Account and Snc settings / Sync Service …What do these apps do?
Some have deleted Backup Assistant. It is posted in other forums that this is one app you should not remove. I froze it and had all my bookmarks deleted… I guess I could import a .csv file.


Document Viewer is installed in my Commando.. is it replaceable by another document app?
Playlists Media Storage… replaceable? I Imagine its for media music etc?
Wallpaper/Settings Settings 2.2.1 can this be deleted?
Vzw SMS Filter Service 1.2 Does this affect SMS/texts?
Pico TTS 1.0 What does this app affect?


Thanks for any and all help!
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I deleted the following without problems...

XT9 Text Input... (must have another keyboard installed to phone)
Search...
Browser... Replaced with Opera mini...(really fast) Dolphin is good too (much larger file though)
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I recently deleted the following, no problems so far.

com.nec.android.ncmc.gzgear.shortcut 1.0
com.nec.android.ncmc.hiddenmenu.feature 1.0
com.nec.android.ncmc.hiddenmenu.program 1.0
com.nec.android.ncmc.modch 1.0
com.nec.android.ncmc.permission.accesstodevstapi 2.2.1

I will let everyoe know if any problem occur.
Will post a full list of my removed apps this evening.
It is extensive.

Anyone have info on "Sim Toolkit 2.2.1"?
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Here is my list of removed apps. I can't say if anyone else has tried all of them.

(*) If you want to be more cautious than I, do not remove the ones wth and asterisk before the name. Some need a replacement app before you can remove, as noted. Some are ones I removed, and I cannot find a problems removal caused.

The rest are only needed if you want them. The system could not care less if you remove them. You DO need to have your GMail account set up on the phone if you want to use any Google service: Googles backup, sync, Market, etc.

411 Search 1.0.9 (cannot figure out what it does, but no problems removing) added 9-17-2011
Adventure Training (Part of GzGear)
Backup Assistant (Verizon backup, redundant to Googles backup)
Bing (Search engine, loaded Google instead)
Books (I refuse to read a book on this little screen)
Calendar (I use Touchdown for Exchange support, my Cal/mail/tasks work via that program)
Calendar Storage (Only needed if you keep calendar)
Calendar Sync Adapter (Only needed if you keep calendar)
Car mode 1.0 (Don't have a car dock, the dock mode looks worthless)
Car Mode 1.0 (make that "double" worthless)
City ID (It's a pay service, tells you where a call is originating from)
Clock Widget 2.2.1 (the clock on the notification bar works for me)
Cloud 1.0 (screensaver or wallpaper)
com.nec.android.ncmc.gzgear.shortcut 1.0 (GzGear)
*com.nec.android.ncmc.hiddenmenu.feature 1.0 (?)
*com.nec.android.ncmc.hiddenmenu.program 1.0 (?)
*com.nec.android.ncmc.modch 1.0 (?)
*com.nec.android.ncmc.NcmcNVForEri 1.0 (?) Added 9-17-2011
*com.nec.android.ncmc.permission.accesstodevstapi 2.2.1 (?)
*com.nec.android.ncmc.phone.nvwrapper 1.0 (?)
Compass 1.0 (I prefer to use an app called GPS-Status)
Deep Sea (screensaver/wallpaper)
*DRM Protected Content Storage 2.2.1 (Digital rights management)
Earth Compass 1.0 (See Compass, above)
Email (installed K9 Email from Market)
GzGear 1.0 (No need for any of it)
Gmail (added my GMail account to normal email app, don't need 2 email apps)
Growing Tree 1.0 (screensaver or wallpaper)
Guided tours (I think I can figure out how to use a phone)
*Home 2.2.1 (running Go Launcher EX instead) Do not delete without a replacement running!
Honeycomb pattern (screensaver or wallpaper)
*InnopathAvtiveCare (you will not get updates without this)
Live Wallpaper Picker 2.2.1 (no explanation req'd)
Memo 2.2.1 (dumb little voice-memo tool)
Mirage 1.0 (screensaver or wallpaper)
Mobile IM 3.0.4.3 (I think this is Verizons own IM program, how many do we need?)
Moonrise Moonset (I am not nocturnal, fangs are minimal)
My Verizon Mobile (Never worked right, supposed to be app that gives you acct/useage info)
NFL Mobile (wtf do I want football info for?)
Pedometer (I don't need a phone to tall me how far I have walked)
Pico TTS 1.0 (Text to Speech app, keep it if you like it) added 9-17-2011
*PVMtpServiceStart 1.0 (?)
*PVWmdrmServiceStart 1.0 (more drm)
Rainy Day Popup (tells you to bring an umbrella if reports predict rain......to protect phone? LOL)
*Setup wizard 1.0 (help you set up accounts, not really needed)
*Setup wizard 1.3 (not sure why there are two)
Shockwave 1.0 (screensaver/wallpaper)
Shootingstar 1.0 (screensaver/wallpaper)
*Sim Toolkit 2.2.1 (?)
Skype Mobile (internet video calling)
Slacker (an internet radio-like app)
Social Beat (I don't know but I thought that was normally a solo activity)
Sound Recorder 2.2.1 (no need)
Star Gazer (GzGear, crappy star-finder app, I thought Google-Sky was better, have neither loaded)
Sun / Moon (GzGear, Sun/moon set app)
Sunrise/sunset (GzGear, sun rise/set app)
Sync Service (Verizon sysnc service, when I do sync, prefer to just use the Google stuff)
Thermometer (GzGear crap, Why?, phones thermometers are not very accurate)
Tides 1.0 (GzGear, Yes, there are two different apps)
Tides 1.0
Trip Memory (GzGear crap)
TTS Service 2.2.1 (Text to Speech service, keep if you like) added 9-17-2011
VCast Apps (why?)
VCast Music (why?)
VCast Tones (why?)
VCast Videos (why?)
Virtual Trek 1.0 (GzGear to let you run/trek against an opponent, I guess)
Voice Control VSuite (voice command program, not impressed)
VoiceMemo 1.0 (voice memo app)
Voicemail 1.0 (I didnt want to pay for VVM, and this app just slows you down if you want to use regular VM)
VPN Client (I don't use Virtual Private Networking)
VPN services (I don't use VPN)
VZ Navigator (I prefer Google Maps)
VZW Package Installer 1.0 (I assume this is for getting apps from Verizon store)
VZW SMS Filter Service 1.2 (No idea)
Walking counter 1.0 (GzGear, Another pedometer?)
Waterproof 1.0 (wallpaper/screensaver)
Weather 1.0 (standalone weather widget, not part of the news/weather widget)
Wiper App 2.2.1 (used to wipe phone via InnopathActivecare, Touchdown already has this)

You can also delete XT9 keyboard, IF you load another keyboard app. I have not yet found one I like.

I count 79 apps that can be removed safely, so far. "No, this phone doesn't have any bloatware!?!"
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So...now that I have my Commando and am waiting for it to port numbers so I can root, which out of this multitude of apps do I actually want to remove? It would be helpful if someone wrote up a listing of apps (like above) along with what they do and how safe they are to remove. THIS would be immensely useful to beginners such as myself.
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There might not be any custom ROMs devolped for this phone, but this essentially is reverse engineering one right on the phone.
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So...now that I have my Commando and am waiting for it to port numbers so I can root, which out of this multitude of apps do I actually want to remove? It would be helpful if someone wrote up a listing of apps (like above) along with what they do and how safe they are to remove. THIS would be immensely useful to beginners such as myself.
Will work on notations for each app this evening.
As you use the phone more, the purpose of many of these will become apparent.
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There might not be any custom ROMs devolped for this phone, but this essentially is reverse engineering one right on the phone.
Yeah.....and it's mostly your fault.
You got me started with your Rooting posts.

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I have a few questions about these apps...



TTS Service 2.2.1 this is needed for GPS correct?
Account and Snc settings / Sync Service …What do these apps do?
Some have deleted Backup Assistant. It is posted in other forums that this is one app you should not remove. I froze it and had all my bookmarks deleted… I guess I could import a .csv file.


Document Viewer is installed in my Commando.. is it replaceable by another document app?
Playlists Media Storage… replaceable? I Imagine its for media music etc?
Wallpaper/Settings Settings 2.2.1 can this be deleted?
Vzw SMS Filter Service 1.2 Does this affect SMS/texts?
Pico TTS 1.0 What does this app affect?


Thanks for any and all help!
I removed backup assistant over 2 weeks ago, no problems here. Google already has backup programs on this device....how many do we need?
If you are using Verizon for alot of stuff....it may be worth keeping.

Verizon is trying to build additional business around media, Visual voice mail, and other crap like that. I do not wish to be a part of it. While the cell/daa services work well for me, I could do without all of the other stuff.

TTS stands for Text-To-Speech. You decide if you need them.
Removing will not cause operational problems.

Don't delete account and sync settings.
Sync Service is a separate sync for Verizon. This device already syncs with Google, do you need to sync something with Verizon? I don't, deleted.

You can delete the doc viewer, and use a new one if you want to.

Playlists....up to you. I do play some music and left it in.

Wallpaper? Kept it but deleted Live Wallpaper.

VZW SMS? not sure, but this is my second Android phone....and the last one had none of this Verizon proprietary stuff that duplicated the Google stuff. Deleted.

PicoTTS is another Text-To-Speech program. Forget what it works with. I left it. At least it is standard Android fare.
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So...now that I have my Commando and am waiting for it to port numbers so I can root, which out of this multitude of apps do I actually want to remove? It would be helpful if someone wrote up a listing of apps (like above) along with what they do and how safe they are to remove. THIS would be immensely useful to beginners such as myself.
I edited my list above, adding comments and notes.
I have removed 75 stock apps so far without problems.

I have removed a few that caused problems....left them off the list.
There is plenty of stuff you can remove without wondering which you cannot.
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Rafael,

I have removed everything on your list as well as the TTSservice2.1.1. Again, you have reversed engineered a custom ROM because other than some kernal tweeks a custom ROM removes all the unneeded, unwanted apks that don't need to be on the phone, and adds stuff the the dev likes or wants.

Kernal tweeks - have you looked at the V6 Supercharger scripts? I am running it. I can't really tell if it has made a difference, but it hasn't caused any problems so I am going to go with it for the time being.

This is good stuff & I like my phone even more than I did from the begining.
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Cool. I will let you know if I decide to remove anything else, or reload anything... and the reason.

I have not yet used the TTS stuff on this phone, but I did use it a bit on my Droid1. Figured I would leave it for now.

I have heard of V6 Supercharger. I don't understand how to run it or what it improves. Was waiting to hear if there was a benefit.
Question: Does it alter our ability to put the phone phone back to original; as we currently can using titanium?

I did a little programming many years ago, long before Object Oriented Programming became popular. I know enough about computers to understand how removing apps with services that are constantly running can improve performance. The rest of the programs I removed were becuase I see no need in having them, or I removed them just to see if I could; for fun.

I agree. I think my phone is much improved over the original; though I must say that the smallest tweaks: the replacement of Bing, and the replacement of the Home app with Go Launcher EX; were the largest improvements.

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Casio could have scored a much bigger hit with this thing than they have.
I assume they got paid by Microsoft to Bing it up, and concessions from Verizon to bloat it up. The Launcher, Email app, and keyboard suck....emphasis on the Launcher. Loading it up with the bloatware that is available on for free the Market makes no sense to me at all. I assume they get a percentage of service-charges on the Paid apps they loaded up. I wish they had fixed all of this and charged more rather than burdening us with this stuff.
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I've really messed mine up now - tried to install the Android DSP like what is on Cyanogenmod. Installed the app & changed the audioflinger file in the lib folder. Big mistake, now I'm stuck in a boot loop & even adb can't break it. I'll work on it for a few days and probably end up getting another one, but it will be another Commando - I really do like them.
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Damn you guys have been busy!! I'll have to give it a go removing the ones starting with com.whatevers lol. Sorry to hear about your phone rj, at least it sounds like you have the funds to replace it. Hope you figure out a fix though.

I got really busy working a lot and really late, but should I copy paste Rafael's List to an edit on the first post or just let the lazies do some reading? I think I'll move it to the top but just put a line in saying "New Bloat List Thanks to Rafael."

I have had Pico TTS removed for well over a week and can find nothing it hurts. I think it has to do with some sort of online picture viewer called Pico. I don't use it so I don't need it. Google Navigation will not work without the regular TTS app though, lol found that one out. Some weren't on my original list that I had uninstalled already too because I didn't back them up. oops

By the way has anyone got the boot logo to go away yet??
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Not trying to take your credit just making it easier for more people to view list quickly. oh and had to throw pico in that list too. we dont need it
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No....I have no problem with anything you want to do with the list.
I don't see it as trying to take credit. It becomes public knowledge as soon as we post it.
We all post our results so others can benefit, or learn from our mistakes.

I liked your idea of starting this thread, and hope you don't mind me adding to it.
Do you think it would be better if we isolate our individual experiences in separate threads? I will be happy to post separately if you think people will get more out of it.
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I've really messed mine up now - tried to install the Android DSP like what is on Cyanogenmod. Installed the app & changed the audioflinger file in the lib folder. Big mistake, now I'm stuck in a boot loop & even adb can't break it. I'll work on it for a few days and probably end up getting another one, but it will be another Commando - I really do like them.

That sucks.

What is this DSP?

Both Oregon2 and myself have removed apps that put our phones into endless error loops, but we manged to get them back to normal with some fiddling. It is no fun trying to race a force-close screen so you can make a correction.

Try removing the battery? It can't hurt.
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Problem report:

I got 4 text messages last night from someone trying to rip me off.
The message reads "To stop these messages simply reply to this one (charge may apply)"

....Like I would even consider replying.

Makes me wonder if the VZW-sms-filter-service app I removed may have filtered this for me? Who knows.
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No I don't think we need separate threads. I think it is best if most, if not all info are found quickly and easily. I think that if more people see the list they will try use and maybe then improve upon it.

Actually once I get a little more time I will probably go through and cut and paste more tips that you and others have given in other threads to my second post on this thread. lol kinda like the one stop shopping store idea. Who knows maybe someone who has even more knowledge than all of us together sees it and says hey they've done a lot to those phones maybe I should get one and help out. Could be a side project for someone that does work on more mainstream phones. Or for in cases like RJglenn, they could program a combination of hard buttons to press to make it manually reset, so that we can all load it on to our phones before going any deeper into changing things. Can't hurt to hope and I may be totally mistaken that any of this is even possible but that would be very cool if it happened.

Wishful thinking anybody??
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I have had Pico TTS removed for well over a week and can find nothing it hurts.
I don't know what it works, but I was playing with my settings to see what each menu does and when Pico TTS is frozen and I go to settings/voice input & Output/Text to Speech, I get an error message " process.com.android.settings has stopped unexpectedly" .

I unfroze Pico and it worked. Refroze to guarantee that it was causing the error, and it was.
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That sucks.

What is this DSP?

Both Oregon2 and myself have removed apps that put our phones into endless error loops, but we manged to get them back to normal with some fiddling. It is no fun trying to race a force-close screen so you can make a correction.

Try removing the battery? It can't hurt.

It is the android digital signal processor that is used on the cyanogenmod ROM. It really improves music playback quality. Its packaged & installed as an update.zip, which is useless on these phones. When it installs it installs the app & a different libaudioflinger.so file. I had read that you can sideload the app and then rename the default libaudioflinger.so file and put the libaudioflinger.so file from the package into /system/lib folder.

So I did, and when I rebooted there I was, stuck in a bootloop. The one little file broke it. Not a real big problem for most android phones, just go into recovery and fix it. Not so with this phone. Recovery is useless because although you can adb to it, once there nothing works. None of the recovery menu items can be accessed.

ADB works for the brief moment between when the os starts and it figures out its broken and reboots. I thought I might be able to fix it with adb, but unfortunately I was not able to write, delete, or rename any of the system files. I would always get: Permission Denied.

I could pull the file, I could veiw the directory, but I couldn't push or remove.

So I bought a new one and have started over. I will not, though, be messing with the system files. No recovery = certain death...
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Expensive lesson!
Thanks for the detailed info.

You gonna dissect the bricked phone?
I would certainly save it for parts.
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Nope, I'm going to eBay it. I'm sure somebody who knows a lot more about this stuff than me and has access to the factory tools will buy it and restore it.
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I hope you can get a fair price!
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I have now removed a total of 79 apps.
It might be easier to list the apps we are keeping.

See list above.
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Tip #2: Make a quick voicmail button. First make a contact named voicemail and enter the number as *86,,1234 (that is star 86 comma comma and then YOUR four number voicemail passcode.) This will call voicemail and enter your passcode for you. Next find an empty spot on your Home Screen and long hold, click on Shortcut, click on Direct Dial, then scroll down and select your voicemail contact.
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This did not work for me. I double checked, then triple checked that I entered everything correctly. Only difference was I put it in my little swipe menu, and not the home screen.
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No one claimed it worked in the snap-out menu, though I suspect it should.
Many of us have changed to a different launcher so we no longer have the snap-out menu.

I suggest you try it as directed. If that works, and it does not work in the snap-out menu; then you know what went wrong.

To be clear, the VM contact you create should contain *86, the number you call to get voicemail, one or two P's for pause, and your pin. Thanks to callmecolt for correcting me; I was using commas for puases. Comma's do not work.)
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No one claimed it worked in the snap-out menu, though I suspect it should.
Many of us have changed to a different launcher so we no longer have the snap-out menu.

I suggest you try it as directed. If that works, and it does not work in the snap-out menu; then you know what went wrong.

To be clear, the VM contact you create should contain *86, the number you call to get voicemail, one or two commas for pause, and your pin.
I tried it on the home screen as well. At first, I had it as *86,,1111 (1111 not being my real PIN, but just using that as example.) Next I put my phone number after 86, still no luck. Tried putting # after the PIN, no luck.

Went back to the original input, but instead of the ,, I added a PP (Pause on the dialer) and it now works. The changes worked as well in the slide out menu, but you have to erase the old icon, and put the new contact in with the updated info.

I will be good at this phone stuff in no time!
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I am the one wrong on this!
You are correct on the "P" pause characters.
While I set mine up with "P"'s, my old Droid used commas for pause characters.
I have messed with so many things on this phone, I fortgot about it.

My apology is tendered.

Thanks for finding the problem!
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We are all here to work together and find out how to make our phones a little better. Glad that I finally was able to contribute a little something.
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Big thanks to you guys for this list. My commando is so much faster now. I didn't remove everything on the list but I'd say atleast 50 or 60 of them and my commando is so much faster now.
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Shock wave 1.0
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How exactly do you set the magnifying glass button to Google Search? I have both Google Search and Voice Search installed. I just installed GO Launcher Ex and when I hit the magnifying glass, nothing happens. When I press it and hold, voice search comes up and it uses google.
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Did you try a reboot?
Make sure that GoLauncherEX is running when it boots.
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Yes. I powered down and then back up. I have the launcher set as default.
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Not sure what happened but now the magnifying glass is working.
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After uninstalling the Voice Control VSuite my message read out widget stopped working. Probably not a big deal to most of us, but this app is pretty convenient at work.
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After uninstalling the Voice Control VSuite my message read out widget stopped working. Probably not a big deal to most of us, but this app is pretty convenient at work.
I just noticed this myself last night. I didn't really use the widget, but was fooling around with what was on my phone.
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You can also delete XT9 keyboard, IF you load another keyboard app. I have not yet found one I like.
I tried like 10 different keyboard apps and the one I like best is SwiftKey X. Its a pay app but you can download a free trial to check it out. After you use it for a while it gets really good at predicting what you are trying to type
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