I mainly use windows as i keep trying Linux and while i really like it there are parts i am waiting to mature some more until i fully use it.
I also hate how people say there are no games for Linux, there are a huge amount of games for it.
Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop on my work and home computers, with XP Pro virtualized for what I need it for at work, and for the hell of it at home. Ubuntu's server edition on my 'server' computer.
Have you checked it out? Pretty darn mature
Does of course, as with any Linux distro, require some amount of dedication/patience though.
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Ubunutu is usually my distro of choice, but pulseaudio annoyed the crap out of me, it was in no way better for me (scrolling in firefox made music stutter and stop, although in kubuntu it didn't so it's a gnome thing).
So yes i have tried it
Fedora used to be my choice but ubuntu came out and i liked the friendlyness more, Fedora has come a long way since then though (my wireless even works flawlessly in the Fedora 10 test wooo!).
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I think this survey is a little "warped" in that, if you like android you probably passed on the iPhone for any number of reasons, and if you passed on the iPhone you probably aren't a mac fanboy and likely don't use Apple OS. Android's current nature is "geekdom" and for that we will see more linux than normal.
So while it is ok to have the survey, the outcome shouldn't be a big surprise.
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With only 10 replies, a tiny sample, the distribution of answers was not surprising was my only point. I was just reading and thinking of "typical" android users and that's why I mentioned it.
So warped meant to me, that the pool of people would likely be biased away from Apple.
As for knowing someone who uses x and y and sometimes z, sure I think we all do. Apple clearly recognized the growth of their market (iPod and iPhone) lay in working WITH other OS'es.
I admit to Windows XP. I've been using it for like 20 years and to be honest, just don't have the time/desire to relearn an entirely new operating system. The small, little things add up and it becomes frustrating to learn completely new.
I actually like Windows XP for the most part but dread Vista. I'm wondering how Windows 7 will fare. We'll see...
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I admit to Windows XP. I've been using it for like 20 years and to be honest, just don't have the time/desire to relearn an entirely new operating system. The small, little things add up and it becomes frustrating to learn completely new.
I actually like Windows XP for the most part but dread Vista. I'm wondering how Windows 7 will fare. We'll see...
Not to hijack this thread, but I used Win2K for the longest time and it was just fine, and I agree you get used to an OS. I jumped XP (skipped over it and have never used it) for vista about 1.5 years ago and have had a great experience. I suggest sticking with XP if it works, and when you finally "need" to move you do it.
How do you like server 2oo8? I've heard some good things about it...
2 saturdays ago my company upgraded to server 2008 from 2003. We use an MS Access based program written in Visual Basic with links to map point/gps. Many compatibility issues,program slowed to a crawl and wont work with Map Point 2009,our it dept has not yet figured out the fix,imagine clicking on something and waiting 10 seconds before it highlights!!
Mac OS X on my primary machines (work and home desktops), and I also have Ubuntu-UMPC installed on my Samsung Q1 Ultra Premium... and will soon have a Raon Everun Digital Note with Ubuntu on it.
i keep trying Linux and while i really like it there are parts i am waiting to mature some more until i fully use it.
I've been saying this for 8 years.
I use Windows because (a) I don't pay for software anyway (and no, I don't steal it), (b) it just works (you can't deny this anymore, generally speaking), (c) Linux still isn't quite there (still?!?), and (d) Mac OS X sucks ass.
Yep, I'm running Server 2k8 on my laptop (and a bunch of servers too :P ) and I LOVE it. It's as fast or faster than XP, but it looks and feels like Vista. Nice combination. Can't wait for Windows 7.
I've got 8.10 on my laptop and have no issues I didn't have with previous versions. I have a lenovo 3000 n100 and have never been able to get sound, the built in webcam, or the fingerprint reader to do anything yet.
Of course I haven't tried very hard because I don't care about any of that stuff. I pretty much only use that laptop for browsing, playing pokerstars, and SSHing into my MythTv boxes now and again - oh and porn, but who needs sound for that?
I am taking my wifes notebook in on Monday to have the entire LCD replaced. (its an older laptop...but some guy here locally will replace it for 25 dollars + an old 60gig HD I have laying around...so for now its cheaper than replacing the whole computer)
I put Other as my selection as I run XP at work and use OSX/Linux/XP/Vista at home. I mainly use OSX at home, but my wife and I both have Vista laptops (soon to be Windows 7) and we have an XP desktop that my son uses. I also have a laptop that I have Ubuntu running on so that I can stay up to date with the Linux world. So I can't say that I use any one more than the other!
Vista home Premium for the MCE stuff,
Current laptop runs XP Tablet edition
Fun laptop runs XP MCE
'Lab' laptop running Fedora,
2 programming Laptops on XP.
I've Found Vista to be a real problem on all but the most recent hardware. On the other hand the MCE features they really got right in this edition.
Most of my work is done in XP but I usually have a linux platform or two around. This year I have been working in Fedora. Before that is was Ubuntu, Mandrake, and even some Puppy Linux which I would really recommend to anyone with an older machine. I have it running on a P3 and it is very responsive.
Vista Premium 32 bit & 64. although my son has been telling me to try Ubuntu. I just dont know if i want to try it yet. maybe when I get another computer.
Just a thought.. but since they are already running Android on notebooks does anyone know how long before they create a full blown pc version and when they do create it do you think they will keep it open source....
Just a thought.. but since they are already running Android on notebooks does anyone know how long before they create a full blown pc version and when they do create it do you think they will keep it open source....
What notebooks is it running on? I've heard news about someone trying to make such a port, but no news about it having actually happened.
I think it would be interesting to have a 7" or 8" convertible tablet netbook (something like the Fujitsu U810 or U820) running Android, but there's some things I want to see first:
1) full support for Google Reader (it doesn't do tag editing nor keyboard shortcuts right now)
2) full support for Gmail (no filter creation/editing, the saved-search feature from desktop Gmail, ability to see the extended headers, nor the full raw message)
3) a VNC server and a VNC reader that have password support
I'm not sure if I'd want a better IM client or not ... I currently don't use my G1 for that, but I'd want something at least as friendly and usable as Pidgin.
I'd also want the netbook in question to have some form of affordable 3G capability.
But, the thing is, you don't really need "Android on a notebook/netbook". What you need is:
a) Dalvik ported to Linux
b) Dalvik ported to Windows
c) Dalvik ported to Mac
Then you can run the Android applications all you want to ... on top of your chosen OS, and all of its native apps. In that case, "an Android netbook" just resembles a Linux netbook with Dalvik ported to it.. except that you still have all of the full features and capabilities of your favorite Linux dist, and you're not limited by the subset of Linux functionality that Android gives you.
So... what I want, instead of an Android netbook or notebook, is:
Fujitsu to support Ubuntu Netbook Reminx and/or Ubuntu UMPC on the U820, and for Android to port Dalvik to run on top of it Ubuntu, Suse, and the Redhat flavor of the year, as well as Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Mac OS X.
What notebooks is it running on? I've heard news about someone trying to make such a port, but no news about it having actually happened.
I think it would be interesting to have a 7" or 8" convertible tablet netbook (something like the Fujitsu U810 or U820) running Android, but there's some things I want to see first:
1) full support for Google Reader (it doesn't do tag editing nor keyboard shortcuts right now)
2) full support for Gmail (no filter creation/editing, the saved-search feature from desktop Gmail, ability to see the extended headers, nor the full raw message)
3) a VNC server and a VNC reader that have password support
I'm not sure if I'd want a better IM client or not ... I currently don't use my G1 for that, but I'd want something at least as friendly and usable as Pidgin.
I'd also want the netbook in question to have some form of affordable 3G capability.
But, the thing is, you don't really need "Android on a notebook/netbook". What you need is:
a) Dalvik ported to Linux
b) Dalvik ported to Windows
c) Dalvik ported to Mac
Then you can run the Android applications all you want to ... on top of your chosen OS, and all of its native apps. In that case, "an Android netbook" just resembles a Linux netbook with Dalvik ported to it.. except that you still have all of the full features and capabilities of your favorite Linux dist, and you're not limited by the subset of Linux functionality that Android gives you.
So... what I want, instead of an Android netbook or notebook, is:
Fujitsu to support Ubuntu Netbook Reminx and/or Ubuntu UMPC on the U820, and for Android to port Dalvik to run on top of it Ubuntu, Suse, and the Redhat flavor of the year, as well as Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Mac OS X.
From what I have heard they are running on some compact notebooks already in China.... However, I have not seen it with my own eyes so I probably should have waited on my post. Although my friend claims to have seen it on a recent trip he made so... as soon as I have video I will post it....
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although i do have vmware running windows vista just so i can access my netgear sc101 cos netgear wont get there arse in gear and get drivers avaliable - but this will never come now!
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Too many PC's in my house for my family's own good, all three kids have their own laptop and a shared desktop, and I have my own laptop and desktop for development. Used Linux on and off for 10 years now, still use it from time to time (debian) but use Vista on my laptop as I use photoshop and visual studio 2008 a LOT for work
Not to hijack this thread, but I used Win2K for the longest time and it was just fine, and I agree you get used to an OS. I jumped XP (skipped over it and have never used it) for vista about 1.5 years ago and have had a great experience. I suggest sticking with XP if it works, and when you finally "need" to move you do it.
Not to knock you man but I went from XP to Vista on my main machine and I have regretted it since, I think if you used XP you would understand why so many Vista users are not happy.... to me it looks like a Mercedes and drives like a Kia.... And I believe I will go Ubuntu this coming weekend because I have just had it with Vista... I can't say I'll stick with it not having used it but if I don't I will not re-install Vista I will go back to XP....
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Not to knock you man but I went from XP to Vista on my main machine and I have regretted it since, I think if you used XP you would understand why so many Vista users are not happy.... to me it looks like a Mercedes and drives like a Kia.... And I believe I will go Ubuntu this coming weekend because I have just had it with Vista... I can't say I'll stick with it not having used it but if I don't I will not re-install Vista I will go back to XP....
Everyone talking is cool, no worries. I am sure you are right, from all the negative press Vista gets. I (thankfully) have had very little issue. I found Win2000 "pretty stable" and find myself rebooting Vista even less.
Everyone talking is cool, no worries. I am sure you are right, from all the negative press Vista gets. I (thankfully) have had very little issue. I found Win2000 "pretty stable" and find myself rebooting Vista even less.
Well I hope they get it right with windows 7 because I have been a Windows user for so long I can't even say.... But the fact that I am so unhappy with Vista that I am actually going to try Ubuntu 8.10 says something at least to me.... I would NEVER have even considered a Linux system had I not installed Vista...
What can i say, I got the G1 for the fancy touchscreen. I have been using windows for a long time and am comfortable in the environment. I will force myself to switch over to linux one of these days.
What operating system do you use?
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