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Old December 17th, 2010, 08:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a windows computer (win7 home ). I am fond of having linux since I am an avid open source user All of my work terimanls use linux and i want to convert my win pc to linux. I am just wondering what are the positives/ negitive aspects of converting from win/linux . i am confortable with both but i want to know what are some of the drawbacks to using linux at home if any ( also if there is not alot how to multi-boot so i can have both

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With Windows 7 it is easier than ever to multi-boot - I highly suggest, though, that you get another physical HD to instal *nix on and go that route. Another alternative would be to use a VM software, like VirtualBox or VMWare Server.

if you're familiar with both, and want access to both simultaneously, VM would be the way to go. if you don't care about being able ot access both simultaneously then dual booting would be the way to go.

These days you can do just about everything in *nix that you can in Windows (with the exception of playing certain games). Since you're already comfortable with both OSs, I'll spare you the side by side comparisons.

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ok thanks now it is a laptop could i get a ext HDD and set it up so i can boot from usb for linux . I Have herd of vm ware but i had trouble using it
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That can be done, but you're better off not trying it. How large is the drive?
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I went with Ubuntu and have been using it for over a year. I never went back because you can get all the software free and there are many alternatives of windows software. It runs better with less crashes as well. The boot is faster and I just love everything about it.
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I've run Fedora, Ubunutu, Xubuntu (I prefer XFCE over Gnome / KDE) and Gentoo - Gentoo was my fav b/c it really allowed me to delve into the nitty-gritty aspects of it, forcing me to learn about hings like CFLAGs and such. I always compiled my own kernels, and I had boots in as fast as 25 seconds before.

I've stuck with Windows partially b/c it's easier to support when I actually use it and partially because I love to game, and there are simply some games I cannot avoid playing, and I must have Windows for that.

I still play with *nix in VMs all the time, but not to any great extent - I have too much on my plate as it is being in a master's degree program and simultaneously obtaining my second Baccalaureate degree....plus being here, testing apps on my phone and on my computers, and testing ROMs, learning my way through F#, learning my way around the App Inventor (which I really haven't started yet, other than some light reading in the App Dev forums)....

I even like Mac OS, believe it or not - but my first choice is Windows, followed by *nix. If I could just take MacOS and install it on anything I wanted, I'd like it so much better....
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I would just dual boot, that way if something ever came up that required you to use Windows, you have it. I dual boot, but I just about never use Ubuntu. I like it and all, but Window's 7 is a really good OS.
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Well I use Ubuntu (Ultimate Edition) for the last six years for the most part exclusively. I do have XP dual booted on 1 of my PCs for flashing roms its just easier, but thats it. I tried dual booting six years ago and over wrote my boot sector, didnt have an xp disc so I installed Ubuntu and never looked back. It is not the linux of old in fact I find advantages over windows simply starting with not being worried about viruses. Stability is incredible on better supported distros such as Ubuntu, Linux Mint or if you like a challenge the very beautiful Sabayon linux. One of the best perks is being able to use Compiz Fusion who most will claim is eye candy, once installed the amount of user possibilty is endless from one click entire theme customization to working on 4 desktops through the use of the 3d destop that is unsurpassed by anything windows has ever put out. I have to laugh every time my wife says how cool the windows shake animation is on her laptop running windows7, that is elementary at best. When I show friends my desktop, I usually have four or five guys asking me to come over and set them up. Having ANY knowledge of linux puts you in a good spot for a smooth transition. I will never turn back at this point.
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To dual boot is simple, plus you are on the right track by already having windows installed. All you have to do is create another partition, the size is up to you (if you are going to use it as a full functional OS, I would suggest 30 GB or more, if you are just using it to play around (I have a 10GB partition with Ubantu BackTrak 4 on it to play around) To create your partition, just hit "windows key + r" type in compmgmt.msc, and go to "disk managament" under "storage" then shrink your C:/ drive volume (right click "shrink volume). Then you will have unpartitioned space. Then start up linux, aim it at unpartitioned space, and there you have dual boot. Since you installed linux last (which is what you wanted anyways) you will use the linux boot loader... Hope it goes well.

p.s. I would stay away from virtual machines unless you have a good CPU and a lot of RAM, running an OS within an OS is a struggle for many computers. And you don't want Linux using resources already being used by windows, it can get sloppy.
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Hmm... i would recommend puppy linux if you need something light and easy to start with. It is run (usually) from a USB stick which yes it can be slow due to USB 2.0 speeds but for starting out it's great! You can run it from almost any machine in it's RAM that is capable of running it because it is so light! Also good idea if you don't want to partition and format your hard drive buddy! Just run from USB stick the whole thing!

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If you want serious eye candy then go for Mint Linux 9 (do not go for 10 because it is not long term support) it is based on Ubuntu Lucid Lynx (10.04):

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If you want an all rounder which is a bit of a user friendly then try Ubuntu dude it's made by a South African (Mark Shuttleworth):

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That can be done, but you're better off not trying it. How large is the drive?
900 Gb inturnal seagate but i like the ext drive that I want is 1.5 Tb for 70 dollars (cheap)
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this is 1 advantage to linux all done with relatively no programming knowledege, this is basic install through the software channel or Synaptic.

Its AWESOME

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What I did (the third time round ) - edited to help you:
I downloaded Ubuntu 10.10 iso and burned it to a DVD-R

I booted from CD (F12 in the BIOS) and entered "Try Ubuntu"

I used GParted (topbar:system>administrative) to shrink my Windows 7 partition by 30GB

I then made an Extended partition, and made a 5GB Swap Partition and 10GB & 15GB EXT3 partitions

I then clicked on install Ubuntu (although I would advise you to leave the CD and boot up W7 to check its OK)

In that I went into Custom partitioning/installation (sth like that) and clicked on the 5GB Swap and maked for Swap, clicked on the 10GB EXT3 and used for "/" and clicked on 15GB EXT3 and used for "/Home"

There is a thing at the bottom for bootloader installation - want to keep W7 as your main? Then make sure GRUB (the bootloader) is installed on the 10GB EXT3

When you reboot you wont see any change - Windows should boot as usual

In Windows, google and install "EasyBCD"

Use that to add GRUB to the Windows bootloader
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What I did (the third time round ) - edited to help you:
I downloaded Ubuntu 10.10 iso and burned it to a DVD-R

I booted from CD (F12 in the BIOS) and entered "Try Ubuntu"

I used GParted (topbar:system>administrative) to shrink my Windows 7 partition by 30GB

I then made an Extended partition, and made a 5GB Swap Partition and 10GB & 15GB EXT3 partitions

I then clicked on install Ubuntu (although I would advise you to leave the CD and boot up W7 to check its OK)

In that I went into Custom partitioning/installation (sth like that) and clicked on the 5GB Swap and maked for Swap, clicked on the 10GB EXT3 and used for "/" and clicked on 15GB EXT3 and used for "/Home"

There is a thing at the bottom for bootloader installation - want to keep W7 as your main? Then make sure GRUB (the bootloader) is installed on the 10GB EXT3

When you reboot you wont see any change - Windows should boot as usual

In Windows, google and install "EasyBCD"

Use that to add GRUB to the Windows bootloader
Does Gparted do OK with Windows 7. The first time I tried to dual boot I used gparted and it killed the bootsector with XP. I do not know if the bootsector is on that end of the drive with windows 7. I just start fresh now
-wipe whole disk and use Gparted to make the partitons
-format the first partition as NTFS ( as ubuntu will play nice with windows bootloader)
- Install windows
-the seconfd partion does not need to be formatted as you can just select the "use largest continous free space" during the ubuntu installation

I have to get a new desktop for playing as I am not allowed to mess with our new laptop, and all our old pcs are just outside the window for running win7.
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Does Gparted do OK with Windows 7. The first time I tried to dual boot I used gparted and it killed the bootsector with XP. I do not know if the bootsector is on that end of the drive with windows 7. I just start fresh now
Windows 7/Vista *should* install the Windows bootloader on a 100-200mb Pimary partition (so you can have W7 on a logical partition, or XP if you are dual/triple booting)
If it isnt, create a recovery disc just in case so you can re-install the bootloader in the extremely unlike chanvce that it gets knackered
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-format the first partition as NTFS ( as ubuntu will play nice with windows bootloader)
- Install windows
-the seconfd partion does not need to be formatted as you can just select the "use largest continous free space" during the ubuntu installation
The easy way out but - it takes waaaay longer and you will have to reregister Windows (limit?)
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Dont worry about not being alowed, I have made massive mistakes and still got everything working again with no data loss
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Make the switch, I dual booted years ago and got to the point where I never boot into windows anymore, its just not worth the hassle (to run windows). If you need windows reinstall it under virtualbox, I have an old technet trial of XP I use for those rare occasions.
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Thanks all i will try everything that you guys posted. I have all of the recovery disks and if i run into any problems i will come back to all of you for advice

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I will tell you one thing right now - DON'T DUAL BOOT WITH XP it's pure garbage.

Windows 7, while being a bit of a resource hog, is much smoother, faster, and more stable than Vista ever was - it is to Vista what XP was to ME - and I abhor XP now as much as I liked it back in the day.

@Mike - since your system already came with it you're golden. Ninty's write up is a thing of beauty - follow it like a bible. If I had had the time to do one I would have - but I haven't been here since Friday, for a variety of reasons....

@Tyler - yeah like ninty said, it should install the bootloader on a separate 100_ MB partition - the only time I have not seen it do o is in upgrades, and in particular on systems that were upgraded from XP to Vista, then Upgraded from Vista to 7. Also, I have see where you can have GRUB / LILO / {insert your favorite bootloader here} as your default bootloader as opposed to the Windows 7 bootloader, but you'll really appreciate how far 7 has come when you see the bootloader for the first time. The clincher - being able to make a Virtual HD of my system and use the bootloader to load it at any time that i want to, for things like testing / etc.

It's a far cry from XP - there simply is no comparison between the 2 OSs. It's like trying to compare RHEL 4 with Qnix (remember that floppy 'beast'?). It really is that different of an animal.
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yes i have herd of win7 being a resorce hog, Thats is why i want linux since it is a low resorce enviroment and i can learn more of the nitty-gritty programing aspects of linux
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I am, simply because I have two NFTS partitions, one for general use (W7's) and one for Symbain modding (sorry ) PDKs, SDKs and also Backup (as I have no external HDD) so its a handy backup OS which uses 1% of my HDD
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I must agree, but I have a ligering foundness for XP too
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Mine is actually on my W7 partition (Dev/SDA1)
I could make Dev/SDA3 as it (EasyBCD, a thing of pure magic, would donate if I had a card) but whats the point

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Yeah I do that too
I use the W7 BL as my primary, with GRUB2 (Linux) and Chameleon (OSX) chainloaded off it
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yes i have herd of win7 being a resorce hog, Thats is why i want linux since it is a low resorce enviroment and i can learn more of the nitty-gritty programing aspects of linux
I dont find W7 as heavy as Vista (from my limited experience of the former) and its definitely more efficient on laptops
I think the main issue is RAM usage
The most RAM I have managed so far is 2.5GB out of 4GB (incl shared graphics) but I dont do gaming (and couldnt really)
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Comparatively speaking, though, modern *ix distributions are getting pretty resource hoggy as well.

Back in '02 or so, I grabbed Fedora Core 2 (or was it three) to take a look at the hullabaloo about Fedora - having come from environments like Novell NetWare and 'DTs' running Qnix off of a floppy, I was curious to see how well Fedora stacked up against XP on my machine that I had just finished building specifically for XP (I opted for dual 20 GB 7200 rpm HDs, splitting OS from data / programs, and building a custom XP install disc that automagically created everything correctly on the separate drives) - an I was so not impressed. I saved a whole 15 seconds on boot time between my optimized XP boot and Fedora.

Until I learned about kernels, and such. I plopped in a pre-compiled Con Kalivas (remember him? A Nurse by day...) kernel, and things started moving much faster. I then learned my way through compiling a kernel manually - IOW, pre-building modules that I needed for my machine, rather than having some sort of HAL poll my machine for every piece of hardware known to man and making me wait for a boot - and got that ...sucker down from ~1.5 minutes to 33 seconds flat.

That's 33 seconds total from pushing hte power on button to being at a login screen - and that included 8 seconds of BIOS and warmup for my Adaptec 29160N SCSI card also.

Default booting in mass-distributed distros today do still edge Windows and MacOS, but not by much. You want raw speed, look at Gentoo - steep learning curve, but totally worth it i the end.

I can still to this day compile a kernel for my system - I know what hardware I have, why make the system poll for hardware that I know is not installed? Why compile apps using basic i386 optimizations when I have a Core2Quad supporting SSE4 and everything i686? Why run apps compiled for KDE compatibility when I don't us KDE? (If I go with an Ubuntu-based distro, it's always Xubuntu - and in Gentoo I also install XFCE)....

Up above, when I said don't dual boot with XP, I meant don't dual boot *nix with XP - Although I am nostalgic about XP as well, and in its purest form it definitely is light on resources, it's also so wide open to drive by infections that until you install about 4 different apps, you're not really close to being secure. Unless, of course, you run as LUA as opposed to admin - then you're a helluva lot safer.

I've managed to push my RAM up - b/c part of that is because I push my machine hard, and part is because I like multi-tasking...lol. I have 4 GB installed running W7 x64 Ultimate (Thank you, TechNet!) an I have had over 3.25 used - but that was b/c I was testing a website in 5 different browsers, 2 of which had numerous tabs open in addition to the website in question, along with the usual suspects of apps I always have running. The big difference? W7 didn't care - it kept right on chugging along.

I may start working on a Gentoo build again, sine I plan on retiring this beast in favor of my Core i7 965 EE CPU (as soon as I can find it a decent home), but I am also toying with playing with WHS Vail, or putting OpenNAS on it and making it NAS, or even putting just regular old Gentoo and making it a NAS that way....

That, of course, is contingent on the time I have - and it looks like I won't have any, so....anyone want to sell me a really good x58 based mobo and 6 GB of really good RAM on the cheap? Poor college student and all....lol
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If your worried about a linux partion on your hd, why not try puppy linux on a flash disk? I recommend all new users to linux to try puppy before moving onto ubuntu or other *nix distros.
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I just read this thread the other day and it made me miss my old laptop with Ubuntu on it. I'm proud to say that last night I installed Ubuntu on my new laptop on a 30 GB partition. Depending on how long I go without feeling the need to boot Windows this may just become a linux only machine.
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i am thinking of going the vm route . i want to experiment with looking at the disk mangment part before i go and dual boot and wipe my hd
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As I said there is ABSOLUTELY NO NEED to do that
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I highly recommend that you dual boot. You can learn linux at your own pace and spend as much time in whatever OS you choose. I think that approach is better for new "recruits" rather than the trial-by-fire/sink or swim approach.

That being said, I dual boot Windows 7 Ubuntu on both my laptop and desktop. I spend most of my time in Ubuntu on the laptop, and Windows on the desktop. The ONLY reason I have not migrated to Ubuntu only on the laptop is because Windows is so darn power efficient. With my TimelineX, I get 8+ hours in Windows but at the best, 5.5 to 6 hours in Ubuntu. Powertop is a great utility but its not as good as the built in power saving measures of Windows.

Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Mint are all fantastic distros.
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Yep I dual boot, I hardly use Windows except to game because I don't really care how Wine works, but since Windows dominates so bad you just have to use it again at some point.

In a nutshell Do really important work on Ubuntu and goof off on Windows. Also try Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Long Term Support) because I used the updated 10.10 and its a nasty bug in it that when you boot your comp it says Fatal error...have not checked to see if they fixed that bug yet but they where working on it
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You can run Linux with your Windows virtually in case of the rare instances you need to get back to it. I used VirtualBox.

This is how you getrid of Windows and keep it on the side in case of emergencies.....

Step 0) Uninstall any proprietary drivers for hardware (read the full steps)
Step 1) Boot into CloneZilla.
Step 2) Clone/Ghost your existing Windows setup/os/drive using CloneZilla to a FAT formatted usb drive. This will clone your machine.
You may clone to a remote Server with CloneZilla. This is what I do. I simply clone to a remote backup server.

Step 3) Format your drive or use another one.
Step 4) Install Linux
Step 5) Download VirtualBox.
Step 6) Make a Windows Guest OS with a virtual drive equivalent to your old setup.
Step 7) Boot CloneZilla inside the VirtualBox Guest OS. You will plug in your USB backup drive in the guest OS
Step 8) Restore your backup from Step2) to your Guest OS and Guest Virtual Hard Disk.
Step 9) Restart your VirtualBox and startup your Guest OS. This should be a copy of what you had before.

This way, you can run Linux full time and boot into VirtualBox to run your old Windows Apps and retrieve your old files,etc...

Now, this is not guaranteed to be perfect. You may have BSOD and have to repair your Guest OS due to hardware difference between your old setup and your new "Virtualized" backup clone of your new guest OS.
That is why I have Step 0. Remove all drivers. You may need to run Windows Repair from your original install CDs and maybe a few safe-mode reboots.

We had to unload a few old Windows Servers this way and now we have them all virtualized on newer, faster Linux host servers.
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Honestly, I think everyone here is missing a very important step, especially for someone who is not sure of the decision.

1-boot linux via usb to try
2-using dd or the like, make an image of your disk

Now, continue with partitioning and whatnot. If you ever want to go back to this point, you have a myHardDisk.image to go back to.

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EDIT: I misread. The person above me got the whole cloning step.
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Linux Mint 10 is the slickest Linux distro I've ever tried, I highly recommend it. Just make a CD and boot with it, try it out and see if you like it. Much easier than mucking about with your existing partitions.
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this is 1 advantage to linux all done with relatively no programming knowledege, this is basic install through the software channel or Synaptic.

Its AWESOME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfRpmqKRbs
I watched the video and thats bad ass. I allways heard people talk about linux and I wanted to try it. Is this something anybody can try or do I need to be a computer whiz? I'm not too sharp on the partitioning thing but I do have a spare hhd I could put it on. Is most windows programs compatable (Sound card,Graffix card,etc)? Lastly why isn't linux prone to viruses?

Edit: I have a AMD Athlon 64 processor 3000+. Do I have to use the 64 bit or will the 32 bit work with that processor?
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I watched the video and thats bad ass. I allways heard people talk about linux and I wanted to try it. Is this something anybody can try or do I need to be a computer whiz? I'm not too sharp on the partitioning thing but I do have a spare hhd I could put it on. Is most windows programs compatable (Sound card,Graffix card,etc)? Lastly why isn't linux prone to viruses?[
less than 10% desktop market share = few viruses
Ubuntu actually supported more of my hardware than the 4 times larger Windows 7 did, so it should be fine for most of your stuff
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Cool, I'm going to download it and give it a whirl. Thanks
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install it on your spare HDD and boot form it by holding down F12/F10
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The Compiz (desktop effects) are really easy to use. Just install ccsm (go to the Ubunut software center and type in ccsm). Then launch it, and it is fairly straightforward from there. It is very customizable, so you will be confused what all the tiny options may do, but just play around and you will get it. When I first installed it, I wasted a good day or two playing with every setting (especially ones where I did not know what they did). I eventually settled on a much less flashy setup than the guy in the video (I dislike too many animations), but it still looks much better than Windows could ever get.

Also, I encourage you to learn to make use of the multiple desktops on Linux (IIRC OSX also uses 4). I have 4 now, and they increase productivity a lot if you use them correctly.

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EDIT: If you knew that already, ignore me. I misread and thought that you were new to Linux, not just to Linux as a main OS.
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Also, I encourage you to learn to make use of the multiple desktops on Linux (IIRC OSX also uses 4). I have 4 now, and they increase productivity a lot if you use them correctly.
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You can go up to 16 (x the number of monitors you have) virtual desktops on OSX. You can do the same with linux/X11. Anything beyond 6-8 is just showing off. I've seen 48 (16X 3 monitors) virtual desktops on a mac once. Again, eye candy.
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I am new to linux. I have dual monitors. I'm not sure if I'm doing this right. I downloaded Ubuntu 10.10 amd64 desktop verson to my downloads. I don't have an iso image. It's a zip file so I opened it with winzip but there's nothing to extract all the files appear to be open already. So in winzip I burned it to the cd. I have a spare 40gig hhd and I'm in the process of wiping it before I tried installing with the cd.
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I am new to linux. I have dual monitors. I'm not sure if I'm doing this right. I downloaded Ubuntu 10.10 amd64 desktop verson to my downloads. I don't have an iso image. It's a zip file so I opened it with winzip but there's nothing to extract all the files appear to be open already. So in winzip I burned it to the cd. I have a spare 40gig hhd and I'm in the process of wiping it before I tried installing with the cd.

I recommend that you re-download the .iso and burn it directly to cd. Natively, windows can look inside a .iso but there is no point in doing that. Just burn it and restart. It is a boot cd.
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I have the zip file downloaded to the computer and I was hopeing to move these files to cd rather than download again. All I have is mobile broadband and its limited to 5gb so I teathered my phone and it took over an hour to download this file. I have the files extracted to a folder I named Linux. Now I have 14 folders in that folder. I just think I'm doing something wrong. Now if I was plumbing a building we'ed be on a level playing field.

Edit: Dummie me. I was trying to unzip the file and burning it to the cd. I downloaded Infra Recorder and burned the file to cd. Now I get to learn the Linux system.
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Ooops I have a problem. It's says I have bad sectors on the hdd (it is a old hdd) I put it on and I'm going to have a failure. So that beening said how can I save the 208mb's of security updates I installed so I can install them on the new hdd when I reinstall linux.
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