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Old December 20th, 2011, 11:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've got my heart set on this card. It's not actually a real 560, though. nVidia did something sneaky.

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Roundup (EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI)

It's basically a toned down 580. Can't shake a stick at it. It does Dx11, 3D Vision, has 2 Dual-Link DVI plus an HDMI, and has a monster double-fan chip cooler. Oh, and did I mention this is a limited run GPU?

Thing is...should I keep my (newer) GTS250 for PhysX and sell both of my GTX260s, or keep one of the GTX260s (I'd keep the SSC version, which is labeled as a regular 260, got it via step-up from eVGA, but the BIOS has been flashed (from factory) to SSC speeds)....

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Going big would be the 580 dual GPU card, but I ain't got that kind of money lol....

Unless you know of someone willing to give me 5 grand?

Seriously, though, I like this limited run card - my only concern is that if they could not pass the tests to be a true 580, and then also didn't quite make it at the 570 level, how are the cores disabled, by programmable BIOS or by physical destruction of connections / cores?

If it is just software, and some enterprising fellow / gal figures it out, then - hell, yes, I'll take a 580 for $300

And if it is destruction of connections, but the cores are intact, well, I'm a whiz with a soldering iron!
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Going big would be the 580 dual GPU card, but I ain't got that kind of money lol....

Unless you know of someone willing to give me 5 grand?

Seriously, though, I like this limited run card - my only concern is that if they could not pass the tests to be a true 580, and then also didn't quite make it at the 570 level, how are the cores disabled, by programmable BIOS or by physical destruction of connections / cores?

If it is just software, and some enterprising fellow / gal figures it out, then - hell, yes, I'll take a 580 for $300

And if it is destruction of connections, but the cores are intact, well, I'm a whiz with a soldering iron!
I was actually asking myself the same question. If you do end up purchasing this GPU, let me know what the deal is. Maybe I'll pick one up myself.
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I'm researching this info everywhere I can but no one seems to know (or want to say) how the disabled cores come into play.

This is almost definitely going to be my Christmas present to myself this year....
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Are you going SLI with the new card(s)?

I'm trying to imagine how big your case must be....

It always shocks me how big graphics cards have become. when I first got the 260s, I was like... "is that a hero sandwich?" OK, not really, but ya know...
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No, it will be a single 560 and a single 250 / 260 dedicated to PhysX....

Hence the reduction in power consumption
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Old December 26th, 2011, 03:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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How do you plan to heat you room like that though?!?!
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Playing Arkham City on full everything, of course!
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Yea, this thing is going to be a gigantic space heater when you're done.

Should be good with running the 250 for physx, then the 560.
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It consumes less power than my current dual 260s in SLI, so....not so much of a space heater :P
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OK, it just arrived via UPS. Time to take the computer down and slap this bad boy in.

See ya on the flip side.
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O.M.G.

Batman Arkham Asylum looks better than it did before. SkyRim - I'm breaking the bank with constant 60+ FPS on everything maxed out, using the advanced button on the configurator app.

but the biggest change was, believe it or not, in Need For Speed: Shift 2 Unleashed.

I can now race with absolutely no pauses, on full maxed out settings, and consistently hit 55+ FPS.

Oh, and my Processor is now my bottleneck in my WEI

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O.M.G.

Batman Arkham Asylum looks better than it did before. SkyRim - I'm breaking the bank with constant 60+ FPS on everything maxed out, using the advanced button on the configurator app.

but the biggest change was, believe it or not, in Need For Speed: Shift 2 Unleashed.

I can now race with absolutely no pauses, on full maxed out settings, and consistently hit 55+ FPS.

Oh, and my Processor is now my bottleneck in my WEI

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It's a beast of a card. Now to start modding
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O.M.G.

Batman Arkham Asylum looks better than it did before. SkyRim - I'm breaking the bank with constant 60+ FPS on everything maxed out, using the advanced button on the configurator app.

but the biggest change was, believe it or not, in Need For Speed: Shift 2 Unleashed.

I can now race with absolutely no pauses, on full maxed out settings, and consistently hit 55+ FPS.

Oh, and my Processor is now my bottleneck in my WEI

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what cpu do you have?

I only have an original or "real" gtx560ti, but I get between 60-70fps on unleashed. all maxed settings @1920x1080.
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I think he mentioned that he has a last gen i7
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what cpu do you have?

I only have an original or "real" gtx560ti, but I get between 60-70fps on unleashed. all maxed settings @1920x1080.
Core i7 965 EE on eVGA X58 Classified 3 pushing 12 GB of Mushkin Enhanced Redline 12 GB : 3 x 4 GB Memory - DIMM 240-pin - 1600 MHz ( PC3-12800 )

Running @ 1680 * 1050 since that is all the monitors I have can handle (safely lol).

I haven't actually measured the frame rate yet, but I plan to soon. I'm going by the smoothness of the video, and at anything below 45 it started looking choppy on my 260ss.

I haven't truly benched this out yet, but I plan to do so this weekend, if things allow for it. Usually, though, I'm too busy racing....

Oh, and the game is not installed to my SSD - may remedy that soon since it may make all the difference in the world (doubt it, but....)
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Haha. Of course, enabling V-sync will limit the framerate as well....

During cinematics I saw as much as 300_ FPS, and just before starting a race it spikes above 400. However, during racing (as little as I can pay attention) it's hitting 80+.

I suppose that now I need to get fraps to accurately measure framerate, huh?
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even better than I thought.

shift2u 2012-01-05 14-30-48-74 minmaxavg.txt

Averaging 90.

Of course, I need to buy fraps to get longer than a 2 second deal lol....but still.
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even better than I thought.

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Averaging 90.

Of course, I need to buy fraps to get longer than a 2 second deal lol....but still.
nice numbers, sounds right now.

I'm actually getting the following:


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Something ain't right about the way Fraps is running though - it runs for like a half second and stops, and yet my log says it ran for 397 seconds? Doubt it.

I plan to test a bit more soon enough....
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Old(ish) thread but...

What do ya think about the re-released version?

Newegg.com - EVGA 012-P3-2078-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) Classified Ultra 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Specs seem nice to me, but not sure.

My mobo:
EVGA E758-A1 3-Way SLI (x16/x16/x8) LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

Newegg.com - EVGA E758-A1 3-Way SLI (x16/x16/x8) LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard


I'm looking to replace my 2x GTX260 soonish but I'd like to future proof a bit. They've been with me since 1/2009. I'd love to go down to a single card too, but not sure if I can given I have a 3 monitor setup atm (for working, not gaming).
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I would recommend the:
Newegg.com - EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

I got one on sale on Amazon a while back and it was a Arkham City SE. I think I paid like $410 for it if I'm not mistaken, which is a hefty decrease in original price. It's probably a bit out of your price range, but if you want to use two of those GTX 560 Ti 448 cores - that would be pretty bad ass too.
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As an aside, when did EVGA start doing all these evil mail-in rebates?

Honestly that's the one thing that could cause my fanboyism over them to end.
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Honestly that's the one thing that could cause my fanboyism over them to end.
As long as I could possibly remember they have been doing the evil MIR's. When's the last time you bought a EVGA card? lol.
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2009 >.> I dont remember seeing MIRs oh well lol
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eVGA does MIRs all the time. I opted for the card I started the tread with b/c it was the classified version, and it has dual fans - keeps the GPU a helluva lot cooler than a single.

I think I'm having an issue though - the new ME3 is not using DX11, IIRC - might it be b/c I'm using a 260 for PhysX, which is not Dx11 ready?
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Ya my 260s don't do DX11, but they seem to run ME3 without a problem. I think all the settings are on high, but lemme check.

(1920x1200) 2x GTX260s

yeah, in game settings all high, but there are only 2 settings lol
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Just like in Skyrim, I think there are hidden settings in .ini files that you can tweak for making things better.

I just figured that it would opt for Dx11 over 9 on my system, so I'm am going to do some digging around and see.
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Ah yeah. Well My RAM arrived so I'll be messing with that some. Really I think my biggest bottleneck is my HD. =\ I was getting 7.5-7.9 on most windows experience scores except my HD which was still stuck at good ol 5.9


SSDs are so expensive though.


Nuy yhis card still seems nice. Maybe I will look at the 580s and 590s over the new few months though. I think the next thing I am putting money towards is definitely going to be an SSD.
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If you opt for a SATA II SSD, you'll get a majority of the performance without taking a major hit to the wallet. I've got the IBM X25-M Gen2 80 GB SSD, connected (for no reason other than that is the way I set it up) to my SATA III connector. It provides no real obvious benefit that way, since the drive is a SATA II only, but even when I have it on a regular SATA II port my HD WEI is the exact same - 7.7.

In contrast, even with the 560 TI, my WEI graphics scores are only 7.1. I wonder if that is because I'm using the 260 for PhysX...but WEI only looks at the primary video card, which is the 560....
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OK, lol, correction. Apparently I had not run the WEI Assessment after buying this card.

New WEI - much more acceptable, except the processor - Seriously? Only a 7.6 from the behemoth 965 in this system?

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