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Hmmm
open /etc folder with admin privileges if you can
search for [COLOR="Red"]resolve.conf[/COLOR]
add/copy this at the beginning
Code:
# google nameservers
nameserver 8.8.8.8
nameserver 8.8.4.4
Repeat
Code:
#apt-get update
#apt-get upgrade
OK, I opened the resolv.config file (should I have done that in terminal? I didn't, it opened w/ gedit if that matters) now do I replace that's there with what u wrote, or add it? What I have is
# Generated by NetworkManager
Nameserver 68.94.156.1
Nameserver 68.94.157.1
OK, that's one i haven't tried yet. I'll give it a go
Edit: Nope same results.
Oddly, the weird freezing up doesn't happen until I start firefox. Also only occasionally get the mouse error. This is too weird. Once I get it fixed, if ever, I really want to know what the heck is did wrong
Edit:. Just saw your edit, I'll have it up as soon as I can. I don't know if I should have or not, but I did the upgrade after the update even tho the things were missing :/ I don't know why, it doesn't even seem like a good idea but I guess sometimes my hands move faster than my brain :/
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I don't think it wouldn't matter if you opened it with vi, nano or gedit as long as you kept the file the same.
When did you first notice these issues? What were you doing? Did you ever get around to doing what karandpr said a few posts back (removing all the lists from that dir? and apt-get update apt-get upgrade?)
@9to5cynic
some of the sources are void . 404 error means the file doesnt exist .Natty sources are pretty screwed up( and I thought Narwhals were cool ).
One of the reasons LTS builds are recommended .
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I don't think it wouldn't matter if you opened it with vi, nano or gedit as long as you kept the file the same.
When did you first notice these issues? What were you doing? Did you ever get around to doing what karandpr said a few posts back (removing all the lists from that dir? and apt-get update apt-get upgrade?)
The last thing I did was... I think I was just futzing about in firefox...installed and removed a theme I think? I honestly don't remember 100%. I shut down, went and took a shower, started up and all hell broke loose.
No, I haven't done that yet because my terminal is still busy with the upgrade...actually it just finished as I was typing this. I'll do it now
I didn't know what was the best way to install stuff I found commands, websites, software manager-it's hard to know what to get from where. Example, software manager only had thunderbird 3.something, where as I google and found out how to get 9. Do I have so stick to only what's available thru software manager?
And what do I do now? My update manager still comes up with a big old error when I open it because files are missing. Is there a repository that actually works right?
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OK, I'm guessing each rm is supposed to start a new line?
Is it supposed to ask me: rm:remove write-protected regular file (name of file I don't want to type)?
Nevermind, it says cannot remove : permission denied
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Wow, karandpr and 9to5cynic, glad you're available to help. But seriously, it's absurd that a new Mint user should need to be editing config files and executing command line programs to recover a package manager database. Defeats the whole point of a distribution designed for newbies!
If this gets too hairy, suggest you just install over it again. The nice thing about a live DVD distribution is that you can totally hose it and all you need to do is reboot and you're golden again. It's a good way to debug risky operations that would be hard to back out of with a full install.
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Its a lot of chaos out there in case of natty and Katya
One reason is mint used getdeb as source which is void .Others are ppa related
@BlueBiker
Yes its very strange and sad
@sadie
If nothing works then you have no option then upgrading your OS
It wont change your settings or anything .
A.)Change the /etc/apt/sources.list to
Code:
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ lisa main upstream import backport
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ oneiric partner
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ oneiric free non-free
B.)
Code:
apt-get update
C.)
Code:
apt-get dist-upgrade
D.)
Code:
apt-get upgrade
E.) reboot .
You will have LinuxMint 12 running
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Wow, karandpr and 9to5cynic, glad you're available to help. But seriously, it's absurd that a new Mint user should need to be editing config files and executing command line programs to recover a package manager database. Defeats the whole point of a distribution designed for newbies!
If this gets too hairy, suggest you just install over it again. The nice thing about a live DVD distribution is that you can totally hose it and all you need to do is reboot and you're golden again. It's a good way to debug risky operations that would be hard to back out of with a full install.
I know, I love having that cd! Makes things a little less OMG the sky is falling! when things mess up.
On the other hand tho, as much as a pita I'm probably being to these nice folks helping me, I'd rather do all this stuff and learn what it's all about. Makes it easier to figure out how it all works and helps me fix my own problems (or not make them!) in the future
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@9to5
Its a lot of chaos out there in case of natty and Katya
One reason is mint used getdeb as source which is void .Others are ppa related
@BlueBiker
Yes its very strange and sad
@sadie
If nothing works then you have no option then upgrading your OS
It wont change your settings or anything .
A.)Change the sources.list to
Code:
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ lisa main upstream import backport
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ oneiric partner
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ oneiric free non-free
B.)
Code:
apt-get update
C.)
Code:
apt-get dist-upgrade
D.)
Code:
apt-get upgrade
E.) reboot .
You will have LinuxMint 12 running
Holy crap, it's that easy to update to 12?! And not lose anything? Hmmm
Actually, other than the update manager not working, everything else seems better...nothings freezing up on me, etc.
What would you recommend? Is 12 pretty stable?
Also, I don't really get anything when I put in
ls /etc/apt/sources.list
like us told me to, it just puts
/etc/apt/sources.list
on the next line. Normal?
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what about "cat /etc/apt/soruces.list", I'm not entirely aware of that file (or apt in general) but if it's a file cat will list the contents of that file what list would try to list contents of a directory. I'd check on my computer but I just shut that one down ...
@Biker - It is pretty strange. I remember using LM for quite a while because everything just worked. MP3, video, dvds, samba shares, I don't think there was a single thing I had to change...it's too bad really.
Like I said before I liked Linux Mint 10 since it blowed the wind out of windows .SO much that I never updated to 11 totally (before my monitor failed )
If Natty/Katya's sources (ubuntu 11.04) are going to be a problem then you are better off upgrading .
There is nothing to lose in upgrading anyway .You can always revert back
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^^
@Sadie
Yes .It's THAT EASY
Like I said before I liked Linux Mint 10 since it blowed the wind out of windows .SO much that I never updated to 11 totally (before my monitor failed )
If Natty/Katya's sources (ubuntu 11.04) are going to be a problem then you are better off upgrading .
There is nothing to lose in upgrading anyway .You can always revert back
well then..yeah, i just might. Everything I came across about updating was all "we don't recommend updating from terminal, do it from a live CD" so good to know I can do it that way after all. I think thats what I'll do.
2 questions: So, did I cause my own problems here, by intalling stuff the wrong way, or was it bound to be an issue no matter what I did?
If it wasn't something I did, then why did it just decide to go all kerflooey all of a sudden without provocation?
I feel I need to know these things to avoid future mishaps...
OK, wait a sec. HOW do I change my sources.list ?
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I'm wondering that too.. I have used the software center (or whatever they are calling it) for quite a while and it never gave any errors like that. Once, a program didn't install right and left apt running constantly, had to kill it and run something (which I've forgotten) to resolve that (fix broken packages or something).
Though, installing via .deb files is pretty easy by itself (though, I don't think it resolves dependency issues). Not to mention, half the fun of the software stores is the browsing
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I'm wondering that too.. I have used the software center (or whatever they are calling it) for quite a while and it never gave any errors like that. Once, a program didn't install right and left apt running constantly, had to kill it and run something (which I've forgotten) to resolve that (fix broken packages or something).
Though, installing via .deb files is pretty easy by itself (though, I don't think it resolves dependency issues). Not to mention, half the fun of the software stores is the browsing
im guessing its cuz i didnt find what i wanted in the software manager and sorta googled ways to get what I wanted (mainly thunderbird 9, lighting that was compatible with that, as well as the google calendar plugin that lets you have read/write access to google calendar thru thunderbird/ightining <oooh i so JUST got that! thunder, lighting...it all makes since now! yes,im an idiot, its been a long day>) Maybe it was stupid, but when its in an faq on the mint forum, it seems safe, they dont tell you 'hey this might break stuff!' which is something i guess i should just assume. I see stuff and its all shiny and neat and go to the software manager and its not there...and i guess im just spoiled? bah, i should just be happy with having a working computer again and not worry about all the extras.
and i apologize for my lack of grammar and formatting and rambling. my proper grammatical skills go out the window at midnight, or in the event or impending OS failure, whichever comes first
EDIT: I am also a little confused on removing stuff. I thought I read in the Mint handbooky PDF thing that if you uninstall somthing, it automatically knows all the stuff it needs to take, and removes everything completely, but I think thats not right....I still have the keepass keyring password prompt when i log in, even tho i removed keepass, and I still had a Calibre folder after I uninstalled calibre....i think i wasnt uninstalling things right...what is the correct/best way, so that all the dependencies are in order and whatnot? Im gonna say right clicking and choosing Uninstall is not the correct/best way
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what the narwhal is going on here?!
I changed my sources to the ones in the above post, and did the get-apt update, and I still get:
........Err http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources
404 Not Found
Err http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main i386 Packages
404 Not Found...........
i say ditch the narwhals for the ocelots . Narwhals are a problem it seems . Koalas and lynx were not I guess .
Narwhals narwhals eels narwhals
If nothing works ,I will write you an upgrade script when I go near a computer or when I can think straight or less sleepy
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i say ditch the narwhals for the ocelots . Narwhals are a problem it seems . Koalas and lynx were not I guess .
Narwhals narwhals eels narwhals
But I did! I changed the sources.list just like you said, cut and paste, and that's what I got! It's still looking for narwhals, apparently! Think it will come out OK?
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It should look for oneric not narwhals .
Something funny is going on .
I will write the bash script for mint 12 lisa+cinnamon.
soon when I am less sane
OK sound good. Thank you. Will it matter that I sorta said screw it and went on with the update anyways? I just figured if most things got fixed without those unfound things in 11,then 12 would be OK too.
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Hoo boy, that didn't go well at all!
Lots of errors & warning there at the end. Nothing happens when I click shut down. Ctrl+alt+del won't work, says couldn't execute command.
I'm afraid to shut it down for fear it won't boot back up. Just gonna close it up and let it sleep tonight. Will reinstall off the disc tomorrow sometime if need be. Gonna go to bed now, I'm tired and tomorrow is my mom's birthday so I gotta get a few hours of sleep in.
Also lost wifi
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Lol. It's ok, not your fault! Luckily I haven't had it working long enough to put much on it, so it'd not a big deal to reinstall from the cd & wipe every thing out. Kinda sucks, but not that bad.
I think what I'll do is get a blank dvd while I'm out today, and just make a live DVD to update to 12. My data is going to be wiped out anyways, so why not.
EDIT: OK cool, i just reinstalled from the DVD and kept my data. awesome. but now that ive seen 12, i want it, so im gonna make me a live cd to install from. Also, I got a USB mouse today
Since I got a 5 pack of dvd-r's i might just make some live cd's of other distro's too, just to check em out.
Im thinking Ubuntu and PinGuy OS, assuming they both have the live cd option.
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I'm looking at kubuntu actually-I'm curious to see what this KDE desktop deal is all about.
Mint 12 downloaded & burned
PinGuy OS downloading now
So many choices! It's fun
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A tip so you don't go through a boat load of cds (like I did) - use a usb drive. You can download UNetbootin or another tool. This will burn the install to a usb device and it will install (if your BIOS support usb as boot device).
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Too bad about all this linux mint non-sense, hope it hasn't put a bad taste in your mouth (mint joke, sorry). Everytime I've used it, it has been very nice, sorry it seemed like a flop this time around.
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A tip so you don't go through a boat load of cds (like I did) - use a usb drive. You can download UNetbootin or another tool. This will burn the install to a usb device and it will install (if your BIOS support usb as boot device).
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Too bad about all this linux mint non-sense, hope it hasn't put a bad taste in your mouth (mint joke, sorry). Everytime I've used it, it has been very nice, sorry it seemed like a flop this time around.
Yeah, one of these days I'll get a usb drive...money's tight right now in fact I probably shouldn't have bought those dvds today...but yeah a usb would be cheaper in the long run.
Honestly, it's probably not mints fault, I probably screwed something up lol. Although even with then new install it just did with the dvd, my brand new left mouse button still doesn't want to work right, and some other issues, so I'm not all that sure anymore...I'm hoping it all resolves with one of the other distro's I'm trying. If not I'll try completely wiping out everything with a new install and see if that helps.
Basically, everything was fine right off the bat, I just couldn't let it be, lol
@JohnGalt
Xubuntu and Kubuntu have been approved for LTS in 12.04 .
@sadie
You can also try Ubuntu Ultimate if you can bear the heavy colors.
You can also try peppermint OS
Kubuntu is a good KDE distro out there .Its been a while since Linux Mint released an KDE version (The guys are pretty busy )
Or OpenSuse,Mandriva or Fedora .
I get one Tux DVD randomly per month but my monitor woes a(and now HDD) have kept me away from all the cool distro hopping
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Thanks, I'll keep all those in mind
I got tired of waiting for PinGuy OS to download, so I'm checking out the live chat of mint 12...still having issues with mouse clicks, despite brand new mouse even on the lives cd-keyboard commands weren't working either...switched back to 11 and the mouse actually worked! Correctly even! Trying the live cd one more time riiiight now...
EDIT: and we have successsssssssssss! right and left mouse clickage going on here! wooo!
*ahem* yes indeed. So, i think i will go ahead and install this bad boy right here, at least for now. Which brings me to the question:
should I just have the installation process go ahead and wipe out everything, format all the partitions, or can I leave /home alone? I don't want to carry over any of the vile badness that screwed everything up, but I don't exactly know how to avoid doing that cuz, well, im a noob and I don't know where stuff is/goes/etc.
I really don't want to get rid of everything, namely some music i downloaded and my firefox bookmarks that took me a day to get set up, but if I have to in order to get things all clean and pretty and working, I will.
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Ya know, not 5 minutes after I typed that, I brushed my touchpad by accident, and my left click stopped working I'm guessing it's will be ok if i avoid the touchpad. Imma put some cardboard over it or something, you know, idiot proof it
Going to do the install now, will leave /home alone.
I'm assuming that it will automatically install to / if it's available? I'm pretty sure it doesn't ask, you just make the partitions and say go
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@karandpr, that's great about the new DMs for LTS Did you guys here that the desktop LTS versions are now supported for 5 years (at least 12.04 will be ), just like server !!
@JohnGalt
Xubuntu and Kubuntu have been approved for LTS in 12.04 .
@sadie
You can also try Ubuntu Ultimate if you can bear the heavy colors.
You can also try peppermint OS
Kubuntu is a good KDE distro out there .Its been a while since Linux Mint released an KDE version (The guys are pretty busy )
Or OpenSuse,Mandriva or Fedora .
I get one Tux DVD randomly per month but my monitor woes a(and now HDD) have kept me away from all the cool distro hopping
Oh, yeah, I saw that lol. I'm pretty stoked about it too.
I'm actually going to try to convert my older folks into using *nix and see how they like it - first is Mom, b/c she never does anything that requires Windows - it's all web based for her.
Dad is not gonna be as easy as he has 2 different laptops from work, both of which have Windows on them, so....but he does not have a 'personal' machine right now.
Me, well, the biggest thing holding me back in hte past was gaming - but now that I have ample space I can easily throw a simple 7200 rpm HD in as a spare and install *nix to them. Which reminds me - is there a really easy way to put multiple versions of *nix on a single drive, sharing a /home directory? I had explored this in the past, and that usually led to having separate drives for each / and /boot and a dedicated drive for /home - but with the size of HDs these days, it should be relatively easy, unless there is still a requirement for /boot to be a non-extended partition....
Oops! Sorry, Sadie, for hijacking your thread - I'll shut up now and make a new post lol.
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Ya know, not 5 minutes after I typed that, I brushed my touchpad by accident, and my left click stopped working I'm guessing it's will be ok if i avoid the touchpad. Imma put some cardboard over it or something, you know, idiot proof it
Going to do the install now, will leave /home alone.
I'm assuming that it will automatically install to / if it's available? I'm pretty sure it doesn't ask, you just make the partitions and say go
I was going to suggest that it was the trackpad an lack of native drivers for it....at least now you know!
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@karandpr, that's great about the new DMs for LTS Did you guys here that the desktop LTS versions are now supported for 5 years (at least 12.04 will be ), just like server !!
Yup, which is why they also yanked out any Java in the installation discs.
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Dropbox?
anyone have any idea why I cannot for the life of me get dropbox to work? tried installing from the software manager and the .deb from the website (no, not at the same time!) neither way works. It installs ok, but when i click on dropbox in the menu, it says it has to download something, does, then....nothing. No little dropbox icon in the panel tray area place,no sync option for my dropbox folder (which was left over from my previous install of 11 where dropbox worked just fine) nothing.
Also, just tried to use the dictionary that came already installed, and I get: Unable to create the data directory '/home/sadie/.mate2/mate-dictionary': No such file or directory
all of the 1-3 updates that were available thru update manager I installed, if that makes any difference.