Go Back   Android Forums > Android Community > The Lounge > Computers & IT

Get excited for the Samsung Galaxy S5! Find everything you need and discuss it in our Galaxy S5 Forum!

test: Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old January 24th, 2012, 04:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
New Member
Thread Author (OP)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Information regarding security.

Hey guys,

Sorry for a really wierd post, however i'd like to understand a little bit about the whole gaining access to a device. Recently i've received a couple of phone-calls it's apparent my telephone number was stolen from a friends contacts list (BlackBerry device).

I am the proud owner of a HTC Sensation XL, however, I am curious to how my number was discovered, and how safe my device would be? Not only this but since my email accounts are stored on my device, including e-mails/invoices with addresses on and such, i'd just like to ensure that my e-mails cannot/haven't been copied (theres a very legitimate reason for my concerns).

I was hoping this community could share some light on "phone-hacking" if you like, and how easy it is, perhaps any security measures I could potentially take to increase security into the device :S

Thanks.

RawrDinosaur is offline  
Reply With Quote
sponsored links
Old January 24th, 2012, 11:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

I can't really ascertain what you are asking and what blackberry is to do with anything.

You can't hack a smartphone using a phone number. Not for a direct attack. I suppose there is a possibility that something malicious could be sent embedded in mms but I don't see how....

Email is different. If they have your email address the could send something but you would have to explicitly allow it so basically you cat be attacked by anything you do not allow to install and grant permissions to.
SUroot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old January 25th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
New Member
Thread Author (OP)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

OK the phone has been hacked, it appear the SIM has been hacked into.


I called my friend, who said he saw my name/number on the screen but it went off before he answered it. At that point someone answered the call, and it was the nutjob who i've already blocked from my phone because some how he got my number from this exact phone hacking incident.


1. Do i need a new handset (also i have a HTC Sensation XL) The BB is the curve.

2. I will be getting a new sim card; as if my friend.

3. Could/Does anyone have any advice for this situation.


Thanks,
RawrDinosaur is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old January 25th, 2012, 10:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
A.Nonymous's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 7,061
 
Device(s): Motorola Razr M, Galaxy Tab 10.1 I/O edition
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 66
Thanked 970 Times in 704 Posts
Default

The only way they'd realistically be able to hack your SIM would be to physically have access to the phone. Has anyone had an opportunity to physically have access to your phone for an extended period of time?
A.Nonymous is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old January 25th, 2012, 10:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
9to5cynic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: /home/
Posts: 4,858
 
Device(s): Galaxy S3 (Verizon) Evo 4G - retired/rooted
Carrier: Verizon

Thanks: 3,066
Thanked 1,762 Times in 1,189 Posts
Send a message via AIM to 9to5cynic
Default

Yeah, almost sounds like they may have swapped out the SIM cards... which doesn't sound like much fun... :/
9to5cynic is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2012, 03:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
New Member
Thread Author (OP)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Thanks guys for your help, at the moment I'm on the assumption that it's virtually impossible to hack into someones' SIM without physical access to it (Please correct me if i'm wrong).

I apologise for what might be seen as stupidity, but i'm just slightly concerned. I know the person responsible is located in Chichester. I know this by entering their area code into the BT Directory, this is because the very first encounter of this person I was called by a land line which was not witheld.

I think it's probably best if I explain the whole scenario a briefly as possible, whilst keeping the facts intact. I've been receiving nuisance phone calls from this person every now and then for roughly 5 days. I've had two voicemails both 3 minutes long each. He's clearly not going to **** off.

I have been informed by a couple other friends, they too have received phone-calls from this person.

I eventually blocked the telephone number from my phone using specific software. However I called my friend yesterday night, the phone rang over for about 30-40 seconds before being answered by this weird person. The call lasted 30 seconds until I learnt who was on the end of my intended call I hung up (He then tried t ore-call my phone which cancelled the call).

During this time, my friend told me his phone rang and he saw my name/number on his phone but before he could answer it went off. He also told me he was unable to return my call, and even send SMS messages. This was around the time the person still had access to my friends phone.

Could anyone help me understand if a SIM or SmartPhone can be exploited? Specifically the BB Curve and my Android (HTC Sensation XL).

Thanks
RawrDinosaur is offline  
Last edited by RawrDinosaur; January 26th, 2012 at 04:32 AM.
Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2012, 04:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
Member
 
linuxrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northamptonshire, UK
Posts: 130
 
Device(s): SGS2
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 62
Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts
Default

Just a thought, but which provider are you with? (I assume UK as you mention BT and Chichester...)

The reason I ask is because if it's O2, there has been a breach recently. I'm with O2 my self but have as yet to see anything untoward going on.
linuxrich is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2012, 04:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

Basically it appears to me that some or all of the SIMs have been spoofed. How, I do not know.

I recommend all effected should get a New SIM card AND a new PHONE number.
SUroot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2012, 05:11 AM   #9 (permalink)
New Member
Thread Author (OP)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

mm I see.. It is also the UK.

Assuming I collect a new SIM/Number. I'm just concerned my phone is going to be monitored by this strange person, I also just want to be sure that my contacts aren't on the receiving end of one of his conversations.

Thanks for your help/guidance it's much appreciated.
RawrDinosaur is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2012, 05:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

He can't be monitoring your actual device if it is phone numbers he had obtained. Perhaps he spoofed the numbers.

If you don't want to do this on your contract without knowing it wont work, use a free PAYG SIM for a few days and see if the calls stop. DO NOT call your friends OR LET THEM CALL YOU as he is receiving those calls and you calling them will give him your new number.

If after a few days, nothing has happened, you all need to get new SIMS and Numbers at the SAME TIME and none of you should contact each other on those new numbers until you ALL HAVE THEM!..

Sorry for the caps, just emphasising
SUroot is offline  
Reply With Quote
sponsored links
Old January 26th, 2012, 05:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
New Member
Thread Author (OP)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I agree that's why i'm here now, because the only way for this to work is for us all to have a new SIMS and numbers.

One final thing that has just crossed my mind, on my HTC I have an "o2 Sim" app, containing a button "Get Settings". I have no idea what this option does, but it's failed twice and advised i call o2 Customer Services.
RawrDinosaur is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2012, 05:44 AM   #12 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

I wouldnt expect it to be relevant.
SUroot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2012, 05:52 AM   #13 (permalink)
New Member
Thread Author (OP)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Didn't think do, but I think it's better to be safer than sorry. Thanks for your help!

(p.s. I too am a big Linux/Ubuntu fan by the way).
RawrDinosaur is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2012, 06:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

I'm a convert, as I needed it to compile android source code. But now I use it for day to day too.
SUroot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2012, 06:27 AM   #15 (permalink)
New Member
Thread Author (OP)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I just install the ubuntu (11.10) -- gnome-shell irssi chromium-browser vim and nerd_table and thats me all set-up and ready.

But; again thanks to everyone for your advice and input.
RawrDinosaur is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Go Back   Android Forums > Android Community > The Lounge > Computers & IT
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:20 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.