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Old September 13th, 2012, 06:02 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Just don't know if the extras I get with the V are with that 15 quid.

It has wifi, more i/o ports and extra 'stuff '

I was told thermaltake is 'low quality' on TSF.
Thermaltake makes some of the best PC products, including PSU's and cases. Whomever you have been speaking to is clearly misinformed or is sharing personal biased opinion.

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Thermaltake makes some of the best PC products, including PSU's and cases. Whomever you have been speaking to is clearly misinformed or is sharing personal biased opinion.
I agree, I've had nothing but pleasure with Thermaltake.
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haha your computer is a hell of a lot better than mine xD

Severely lacking funds :P currently I've got an old Dell (hate dell) with Windows XP Pro SP3, Intel Celeron CPU 1.80GHz, 1.2GB RAM, basic graphics controller and only like, 130GB Harddrive lol
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Yep, I bought a thermaltake PSU based off recommendations - no complaints.
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If I was willing to splurge a bit on a case, I would've ended up buying the TT Level 10 GT in all white. I just couldn't justify nearly $300 on a case (after taxes).
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If I was willing to splurge a bit on a case, I would've ended up buying the TT Level 10 GT in all white. I just couldn't justify nearly $300 on a case (after taxes).
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I was thinking of the Corsair TX750...Is that better than the thermaltake.
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I was thinking of the Corsair TX750...Is that better than the thermaltake.
Corsair seems to be the head honcho in the PSU world. I have the HX750, but it's modular. Modular just = better for aesthetics. I would recommend the HX or AX models.
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Aesthetics? Locked inside a big box?

The Hx and Ax are at least 10 pounds more.... Why do you recommend them over the tx?

10 doesn't sound like much, but that could go towards a new disk drive or case etc...
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Corsair seems to be the head honcho in the PSU world. I have the HX750, but it's modular. Modular just = better for aesthetics. I would recommend the HX or AX models.
Oh no, it's much, MUCH better for air flow. Especially for those of us who like to push our systems without water cooling.
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Well... You made it sound better.

By pushing my system, I would mabye consider ocing in the future so....

Thermaltake Smart Series 750w 80plus Power Supply Unit
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0079RFCX2/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00305I3ZQ/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?tag=pcp0f-21

These any good? I was told thermaltake were low quality by Tyree on tech support forum (TSF)

Edit : found out what modular is. Sounds pretty good. Any disadvantages?

Found this semi modular Corsair CP-9020003-UK Enthusiast Series TX750M 750 Watt Power Supply
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005DGEOJO/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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And then which motherboard should I get?
Asus P8Z77 V
Or
Asus P8Z77 V LX.

Like, the latter is 40 quid cheaper, but would i be missing out on any features?
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And then which motherboard should I get?
Asus P8Z77 V
Or
Asus P8Z77 V LX.

Like, the latter is 40 quid cheaper, but would i be missing out on any features?
No SLI support, and IIRC, less USB ports.
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I don't think I'd be looking into sli..

Usb - I just need my mouse, keyboard, printer, and a few others so 5/6...

I had ordered the V.... Should I swap it for a V LX?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006654&IsNodeI d=1&Description=Asus%20P8Z77&bop=And&CompareItemLi st=%2D1%7C13%2D131%2D820%5E13%2D131%2D820%2DTS%2C1 3%2D131%2D824%5E13%2D131%2D824%2DTS&nm%5Fmc=AFC%2D C8Junction&cm%5Fmmc=AFC%2DC8Junction%2D%5F%2Dna%2D %5F%2Dna%2D%5F%2Dna&AID=10446076&PID=3917268&SID=s kim21873X801113X4fc2972eb600e7d9a4db906f59b941b9

gonna need to decide soon before it ships




And is a modular psu worth the extra money?
Corsair non modular TX750
XFX P1-750B- UKB9 750W modular
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Mehta, I tried to answer your PM, but your PM box is full. Please empty it so I can answer you.
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Anyone recommend mice, keyboards or speakers?
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One of the Logitech combos would be legit. Perhaps, MK550 combo.
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Would a wired gaming mouse be overkill? I. E would that combo be good for all tasks and gaming? Or should I get an extra mouse for gaming?
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I think the combination I mentioned was wireless, but it's entirely up to you. You could do whatever you want. Some folk prefer wired. However, my setup at home requires wireless.
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The 550 is way out of my budget (£100 on amazon)

Was thinking of the mk220 or the Microsoft 800.....
Something around £10-20
And then possibly a Logitech M6900 mouse... Which is around 15..
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MSI GTX 660 Ti vs EVGA?

Both roughly the same price, but evga has a 3-10 year warranty which includes over clicking I think.....

Quick before they're out of stock!
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I'm a HUGE fan of EVGA, and have never been a fan of MSI from personal experience reasons.

However, everyone I know seems to have good experiences with MSI. If it were me, I would go EVGA all the way, but I don't think you'll be disappointed with either of them.
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but I don't think you'll be disappointed with either of them.
+1

I would vote MSI just because I only have experience with that manufacturer, but I'm not really sure of the differences between the two cards.

I know MSI are overclock friendly too, considering the advertised their own overclocking software on the 570 box, although I'm not sure on the specifics of the warranty that came with mine.
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*sigh*


I dont know anymore. I dont know if I'm gonna have time to play lots of games to make it worth spending the extra money on a better card...

So far, I've gone back to :

GTX 660Ti vs 570 vs 660Ti.

660 would be the Asus (£180) , 570 would be the MSI (£240 ) , and then the 660Ti's: EVGA vs MSI vs Zotac which are around £220-260


I just don't know anymore.


Games I would - if I could - would be Portal, Batman : Arkham City , GTA 4, Just Cause 2 , Left 4 Dead, Trine etc.......

So I dont know if the 560 is better for me.... Only because I've been told by some people that £220-250 is WAY too much .

I mean, I understand that all of my games are old , and they would work with a 560Ti , but would it be good ? Like without freezing etc.... and I woul dlike to play with high quality graphics.

Help?



EDIT: The 660Ti's come with Borderlands 2 worth £30 .... so effectively , they're £190-£220

[...compared with the £210 and £270 560/570 ( if you add the cost of BL2 ) but I probably would get it otherwise ]


EDIT 2 : I would be using the PC for working ( schoolwork) browsing , video editing ( AVCHD ) and light gaming..... Dunno if that makes a difference.


Also,

I'm only thinking of getting the expensive cards for -

A- Playing what I have on higher settings
B- Increased performance
C- Future Proofing
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Well I broke down and bought the Cooler Master hyper 212+, I was doing prime results and it was getting pretty hot in there. I've also ordered 2 megaflow 200mm case fans to help with the push/pull. I'm not looking forward to tearing everything out, but oh well!
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With my build, Using the Tt Level 10 GT case, I made sure to install a fan on the bottom of the case drawing air into the case from underneath, and I replaced the top exhaust fan with the radiator from my Corsair H100 CPU water cooler. End result, I have good airflow from front to back and bottom to top, keeping it a lot cooler inside than I would have thought.

I also opted to jump on the eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core (dual fans), and the door has a huge 230mm fan blowing in that I've directed at the video cards.

Keeping flow paths clear is just as important as having the intake and exhaust fans positioned correctly. Cleaning dust filters (if equipped) will be key as well to keeping temps down.
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ASUS P2Z77-V Motherboard

Intel Ivy Bridge i5 3570K - Standard clock. For now.

EVGA GTX GeForce 570 HD GPU

WD Caviar Black 1 TB

(Couldn't justify the extra cost for SSD.)

Corsair Vengence DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB

Thermaltak 850W Power Supply (Modular!!)

LG Something or another bluray RW

And not really part of the "build" per say, but hands down the best set of $30 speakers I've ever purchased.

Cyber Acoustics 2.1 Computer Speakers.

So far it benchmarks really good, and at stock fans and heatsync (yeah i know, heresy) the temperatures are really good under load. I plan on adding about 4-5 more case fans and eventually replace the heatsync with a better aftermarket when/if I decide to push the processor past stock clock.

I also found out the hard way that another 570 HD won't fit in my case, so if/when I decide to go SLI I'll have to upgrade the case and remount EVERYTHING. /facepalm

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I've just realised that my CM Storm Enforcer case only comes with two fans , and the other two are optional.

Question is, am I likely to be needing those fans from day 1? Or should I be ok for a while , and I'll pick some up later , or should I just leave it ?
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Eh, this case already has 4-5 HDD bays.. I don't need more. I have a NAS.
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So I've managed to come across £250 recently, and I was wondering if I should bother returning items etc to get better parts e.g.

1. MSI 660Ti (£250) ---> 670 (~£320) [ Thinking of that wider bus )
2. i5 3750K ( £165) --- i7 3770K (~£250)

and / or

3. >22" , >1080P monitor ....

I can't sli with two GPU's with my current mobo so getting an extra 660 is out of the question...

4. I COULD get some more ram , but I don't know if >8GB is too much ... Too much

5. Mabye I'll get a aftermarker cpu cooler and( apparently not needed for standard clock ) some extra fans etc

6. I could get a SSD... Too expensive

7. I could get a nice/gaming keyboard/mouse

8. Better speakers

OR

I could buy a pretty standard monitor (£110) , Windows (£70) and keep the rest/treat my parents( who are investing some money into this)...

Suggestions?
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At all ?

So you're saying I should just get a standard-ish monitor , keyboard/mouse and save the rest ?


What about getting a modular psu ? like a ax750W?

No 670 either?
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Just read this saying MSI are secretly overvolting their cards for better performance , and something about shorter life and strain on the PWM...

SOme people saying its good becuase they have a 3 year warranty , I only gert a 2 year , and I want it to last as long as possible...

Thinking I might swap my MSI 660Ti for a Asus/Gigabyte 670?
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I don't know if I'm being stupid, but how do i connect my hard drive up?
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Old April 8th, 2013, 02:24 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Just reread through this thread. God I was such a noob back then :-P
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I know how you feel about the case. I ordered a motherboard that is not SLI compatible, only Crossfire compatible. And I have a NVidia graphics card. So I'm either going to have to sell my NVidia card and buy 2 AMD cards, or replace the whole motherboard taking everything out and putting it back in. I think I'll just go the easy route. It will save me money too because I won't need a new motherboard. At least not for a while.

When do I know I need a new motherboard? For an upgrade?
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Yeah, my motherboard is only CF compatible, but the PCI slots are x8/16., and I have a nvidia card too :P
I think, if I ever feel the need to SLI, I'll just try and sell my current mobo, and buy another. Looking back, I guess I should've spent the extra £20 or so for the better motherboard ( I chose my motherboard when I was on a strict budget, but then the budget evaporated with the purchase of my GPU and monitor )

I guess you'd need a new motherboard when new components you want wont be compatible - i.e. new CPU socket type, DDR4 RAM, etc.
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I know how you feel about the case. I ordered a motherboard that is not SLI compatible, only Crossfire compatible. And I have a NVidia graphics card. So I'm either going to have to sell my NVidia card and buy 2 AMD cards, or replace the whole motherboard taking everything out and putting it back in. I think I'll just go the easy route. It will save me money too because I won't need a new motherboard. At least not for a while.

When do I know I need a new motherboard? For an upgrade?
That depends on a few things. Mostly compatibility of parts of which you are looking to upgrade. CPU socket types tend to be the major reason behind mobo upgrades.
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