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Old August 30th, 2012, 05:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Custom build a PC vs Buy a Laptop.

I currently have a HP G70
( Intel core 2 duo, 2 GHz, 3GB ram, 140GB HD, 9th G NVIDIA graphics etc)
I also have a old PC ( custom build, AMD 1.6Ghz single core, 1GB ram, etc)

Thinking of either getting a new laptop or building my own pc.

Will be using it for school work, basic tasks, and games.

Thinking i7/ i5 if i have to, 8GB RAM, 1TB Hard drive, good graphics card, whatever good PSU, a decent motherboard and a decent case.

My budget would lapse between 3-800. Think I could get something for that?

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Old August 31st, 2012, 06:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If its gaming, I wouldn't go with a laptop. To be honest, I wouldn't use a PC for gaming anyway due to all the stupid GFX requirements, but its much easier to match these requirements using a desktop than a laptop.
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Old August 31st, 2012, 08:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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^ what he said. It also depends on the amount of money you are willing to spend.
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Old August 31st, 2012, 08:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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As I said before , budget is 3-800...


I currently use my laptop to game , and it works fairly well... games such as GTA, Bastion, Star Wars KOTOR.. etc

So not really graphic intensive , but I'd still like a good rig.

I made a basic list of items I'd need, and using a i5 , the cost touches 800, so I may have to wait for the i7 to become a little bit cheaper.. or use a i5.

But , as I mentioned in IOWA's thread, I've seen and read about a few items, and made a list...so if you could have a look?

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As I said before , budget is 3-800...


I currently use my laptop to game , and it works fairly well... games such as GTA, Bastion, Star Wars KOTOR.. etc

So not really graphic intensive , but I'd still like a good rig.

I made a basic list of items I'd need, and using a i5 , the cost touches 800, so I may have to wait for the i7 to become a little bit cheaper.. or use a i5.
i5-2500K is a great CPU. You really can't beat it for that price, either.
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Now conversations turned to a laptop being cheaper (somehow) and practical.

And I can't really say I need a good one for games :-!
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I got myself a top notch HP8200 i7 with vPro for £400, so if you spend a little more on a good graphics card (Games) and a 2TB drive then you will get a very nice system way below your £800, not unless you splash out an a couple of 24" monitors and a medium spec general purpose video card like an Nvidia NVSxxx of some sort.

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I've been a Mac user since 2007, but recently got a new job where I'm required to used Windows. I was wanting a laptop with nice specs, that I could not only do work on, but play games, (WoW, Tribes, etc.) so I decided on the Samsung Series 3. I paid $450ish at Walmart for it, for the price I got a quad-core AMD A6 1.6ghz processor, 4gb of ram (which I upgraded to 8gb for $20), a 15 inch display, surprisingly great graphics due to the AMD A6. For the price, I don't feel like I could have gotten a better machine. I'm very content with it.
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First off, don't listen to all these people that say NOT to use a laptop for gaming. I have been using an Asus G53 for over a year and it runs max settings perfectly fine. Never overheats, 1080p, plenty of processing power. When I am done, I can carry it with me in a backpack, unlike a desktop. The only cord I need to have attached to it is the power cord (beyond a good 1.5 hours of battery).

With the way technology is heading, desktops will become a thing of the past for most users. Laptops will be replacing them in most situations, with tablets also taking a large chunk out of the desktop community. People want smaller, lighter, faster...that is the road we are headed down.

Many "gamers" think bigger is better and actually wind up spending too much, or making their system "overkill" vs. what they really need. Future proofing? No such thing. What is top dog today will play 2nd fiddle to what is available 2 years down the road.

To answer your question, you can get this from HP for $800:

DV6T 7000 series Quadcore i7-3610QM (2.3GHz + TB, 6MB L2 cache)
NVidia GT 650M 1GB DDR5 (some say get 2GB but nothing really needs that much video card memory for gaming)
8GB DDR3 RAM
750GB 7200rpm HD
15.6" 1080p screen
Blu-ray player
Backlit keyboard
Beats Audio

Use a coupon code (all over the internet) and actually call them for an even bigger discount after the code is applied. They will work with you.
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I think we need to start at the beginning. What do you want your new computer to do that your current computer can't? Also will you be keeping the old notebook or trying to sell it?


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I currently have a HP G70
( Intel core 2 duo, 2 GHz, 3GB ram, 140GB HD, 9th G NVIDIA graphics etc)
I also have a old PC ( custom build, AMD 1.6Ghz single core, 1GB ram, etc)

Thinking of either getting a new laptop or building my own pc.

Will be using it for school work, basic tasks, and games.

Thinking i7/ i5 if i have to, 8GB RAM, 1TB Hard drive, good graphics card, whatever good PSU, a decent motherboard and a decent case.

My budget would lapse between 3-800. Think I could get something for that?
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Old September 21st, 2012, 08:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I just want to be able to do all common tasks without lag or stuttering. Word, browsing, editing movies and games
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A good question to ask yourself is will you be wanting to carry the computer with you. If you don't need a portable computer, definitely build or buy a desktop. I've got 2, nice Dell laptops but love my HP quad core desktop and would much rather use it if given a choice.

It all boils down to whether or not you need the computer to be portable. If not, definitely go with a desktop. You can build a decent one for $800. Just shop around.
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I currently have a HP G70
( Intel core 2 duo, 2 GHz, 3GB ram, 140GB HD, 9th G NVIDIA graphics etc)
I also have a old PC ( custom build, AMD 1.6Ghz single core, 1GB ram, etc)

Thinking of either getting a new laptop or building my own pc.

Will be using it for school work, basic tasks, and games.

Thinking i7/ i5 if i have to, 8GB RAM, 1TB Hard drive, good graphics card, whatever good PSU, a decent motherboard and a decent case.

My budget would lapse between 3-800. Think I could get something for that?

If you can squeeze an SSD in there I would do that you will see more performance gain that way, the prices on them have came down you can get an OCZ 90gb for $60 at some places or a 128gb for $90. Also you could go with a micro atx board and a mid tower case save that way also. A GPU for those games would only cost around $100.
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First off, don't listen to all these people that say NOT to use a laptop for gaming. I have been using an Asus G53 for over a year and it runs max settings perfectly fine. Never overheats, 1080p, plenty of processing power. When I am done, I can carry it with me in a backpack, unlike a desktop. The only cord I need to have attached to it is the power cord (beyond a good 1.5 hours of battery).

With the way technology is heading, desktops will become a thing of the past for most users. Laptops will be replacing them in most situations, with tablets also taking a large chunk out of the desktop community. People want smaller, lighter, faster...that is the road we are headed down.

Many "gamers" think bigger is better and actually wind up spending too much, or making their system "overkill" vs. what they really need. Future proofing? No such thing. What is top dog today will play 2nd fiddle to what is available 2 years down the road.

To answer your question, you can get this from HP for $800:

DV6T 7000 series Quadcore i7-3610QM (2.3GHz + TB, 6MB L2 cache)
NVidia GT 650M 1GB DDR5 (some say get 2GB but nothing really needs that much video card memory for gaming)
8GB DDR3 RAM
750GB 7200rpm HD
15.6" 1080p screen
Blu-ray player
Backlit keyboard
Beats Audio

Use a coupon code (all over the internet) and actually call them for an even bigger discount after the code is applied. They will work with you.
I'm sorry, but I must disagree with you. While gaming on a laptop is certainly a possibility, and many people do it.

Why do I disagree? Heat. It all depends on the type of games you're playing and what graphic settings you're running them on. But if you plan on running anything even remotely high end, a laptop is going to get you into trouble. On load with ultra settings my setup doesn't pass 50 degrees Celsius, which is pretty good.

You say your laptop never overheats, but how closely do you monitor the temperatures? Heat lowers parts longevity, and in the long run performance. Now, if you have tons of disposable cash and you want to upgrade laptops every other year and don't expect ultra graphics on bleeding edge games, then a gaming laptop may be fine.

Also, all modern chips have automatic slowdown/under clocking when they get too warm. This can cause unstable systems and huge performance drains during gameplay. Something I don't have to worry about with a desktop system thanks to proper ventilation.

The fact is, the computer I just built, without doing *any* upgrades, will play anything that comes out for the 5 years or so. And if I must, I can throw another GPU in for relatively cheap (most likely under $200) and keep up just fine.

It all depends on your expectations, and if you're on a limited budget you by a FAR long shot get more bang for your buck with a desktop computer vs a laptop.

Besides, being able to play on a 23" screen is much funner than a 15.6" screen.

Or in the case of skyrim/bf3, I can play it on my 60" 1080p over HDMI with an xbox controller, truly a beautiful thing. Try that on your laptop on ultra. (While running two other monitors on top of that)
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Unless you want portability, a laptop is pointless. A quality gaming laptop will cost more than a DIY desktop and have inferior performance.

Visit Diablo III and Guild Wars 2 forums and see all the people with laptops who can't play because either the laptop's power is inadequate or cooling is inadequate.

- i5-2500K CPU is awesome...run it at 4.2GHz at stock voltages; i7's HT isn't worth it and Ivy Bridge doesn't OC as well as Sandy
- Mushkin DDR3 2133 RAM (8GB)
- I swear by Gigabyte Ultra Durable boards
- SSDs have come down in price and work great with the Z68 chipset (SRT caching); if you have the cash, go for it; if not, don't worry about it
- WD FAEX HDDs are solid and fast; I don't recommend any other WD drives (blue, green, red)
- Don't skimp on the PSU; get a reputable one that'll deliver the proper wattage
- Spend the rest on the video card, 550 or 650Ti is a good value
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