I still dont know what to go for in terms of wired vs wireless....
Wired:
Microsoft X4 Sidewinder
Logitech G110
Wireless:
Microsoft Comfort 5000
Logitech MK520
Recommend any/ any different one's?
I would suggest going wired, i always had bad luck going wireless when gaming...
I really love the X4 Sidewinder and the G110, they are both great keyboards for the price.
For mice, i know my set up consists of a Razer Deathadder, those range for about 65 dollars wired mouse, then a Razer Black Widow Ultimate, 120 bucks wired keyboard.
Razer is alright, but to be honest 25% of the time your product will fail right when you get it, you will get a brand new one no cost, but it's just a hassle, it's razer's problem.
Not sure if you've realised, but I'm from the UK. We don't have newegg
It has occured to me that I don't really know why I want a wireless keyboard, but I do like the ergonomic styling of it.
I'll try going into Staples or somewhere , and see if I can have a go on one. Otherwise I'll order the wireless, and if I don't like it , I'll get a wired.
Seems like the biggest difference that everyone mentions is the lag. But how noticeable is this for a 'casual' to intermediate gamer? and in day to day life?
Not sure if you've realised, but I'm from the UK. We don't have newegg
It has occured to me that I don't really know why I want a wireless keyboard, but I do like the ergonomic styling of it.
I'll try going into Staples or somewhere , and see if I can have a go on one. Otherwise I'll order the wireless, and if I don't like it , I'll get a wired.
Seems like the biggest difference that everyone mentions is the lag. But how noticeable is this for a 'casual' to intermediate gamer? and in day to day life?
Trust me it is awful especially in a wireless mouse, god i had so many issues when, back in the day i started gaming with Counter Strike: Source and my reaction time was awful with a wireless mouse, like turning corners and stuff.
And even if you don't have newegg, which sucks might i add, you can still look for those devices, you have the names, and they are reliable, i would seriously look to stay away from wireless...
Well first off like i probably said at some point on this thread but cant remember, Razer products are so iffy, because they either work or they dont and you might have to spend money on getting it fixed, just shipping fees of course, but i love my razer products and they work really well for my needs.
The Razer mice, i think, are the better of their products and you really couldn't go wrong getting one!
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I use an Alienware TactX keyboard. Its a bit cumbersome because it connects to the PC by two USB connectors but the build quality is very solid and the keys are just right. I used to use a Logitech wireless keyboard but it was unreliable; I had it on the pullout shelf of my desk and I think the radio waves couldn't get through the wood!
As for the mouse I dont think it matters as much, but that's subjective. Personally I just love a mouse that feels right in my hand more than anything.
I understand the x4 is a good gaming k/B but i don't know if saving £20 for a standard k/B is better. I don't know if I'd take advantage over its extra features.
I understand the gaming mouse to have extra buttons and a switchable dpi. How useful is this is day to day life and in casual gaming?
Obviously there's the G500 but are there any good "standard" mice out?
I see the M500 but for a tenner more, I could get the G500.
Last edited by Mehta23; October 21st, 2012 at 10:11 AM.
- I don't recommend setting on anything man-machine interface: Input devices and monitors are something you deal with every use of the machine for years to come
- I swear by Logitech. Their quality has always been bar-none since the early '90's and their support is outstanding (I asked if I could buy a new G9x cord because my cat chewed through it and though I could solder it, I prefer to replace it; they sent me an entire brand new, unopened replacement mouse!)
- My experience with Razer is that they are junk. If your stuff doesn't completely plotz, it just feels cheap and wears poorly and never works properly. They are rife with poor design decisions as well. Of 11 Razer pieces, two went into the trash, seven were sold at a loss, two are pretty worn in a basement box for legacy systems which, for anal-retentive reasons, I haven't just thrown or given away (hey, I finally threw away my Atari 2600 out just last year, so I'm making progress here!)
- If you game, I don't recommend wireless (latency and reliability plus more likely to chew through a charge too quickly)
- The G400 is only 3600dpi; I prefer lowering speed and increasing resolution (newer models are 5700dpi)
- The M500 doesn't have Darkfield (can use it on any surface) and I don't know if you can program its buttons. It also doesn't have the--I don't know what they're called but the pads the mouse glides on on the G-series mice are like Hotblack Desiato's spaceship: frictionless! Serously, I think they're Teflon and they don't wear out)
- The G500 or the G9x would be my suggestion; you can program the buttons and the weights really do make a huge difference, especially if you game
- If you game, you need a gaming keyboard. The X4 looks solid and doesn't have the ghosting issues the X6 has. Personally, however, it looks ugly, uncomfortable, and I don't see a volume knob--but that's all personal taste.
- I would still recommend the G110 (G19 sans display but has USB audio...spiffy) over the X4 for all of its keys are full-size, uniform, has the volume knob w/other media controls. Additionally, if you ever get a G13, it uses the same software
- Wife and I each have Logitech G19, G13, G9x, F710, Anywhere MX and love them
Again, this is your interface to your PC and I wouldn't recommend settling; I can't see regretting spending a little more but I can see regretting not getting the components you are completely happy with.
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Right. Thanks so much for a really detailed answer!
I think, based on that, I'll go for the G500 mouse.
I see where you're coming from on the G110 but aren't the keys closer together?
Although I like the volume control and the sound card thing... But I don't know if I'd use them.
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Wanted to ask : could I plug in my phone headset into my pc and use it as a mic?
I think it kinda depends on the jack on your PC, most have some combo of line-in, mic, line-out, headphones, etc.
For phones they multi-purpose a single headphone jack to feed audio back in. I'm not sure how they do this or if computer headphone jacks are built to do this too. (Most probably aren't).
However, all headphones can be used a mics when plugged into a mic jack. A trick DJs have used for years. Only one earpiece will react as a mic. But the quality is kinda meh.
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Hey guys, I'm back and still looking for a keyboard (gonna get that G500 mouse)
It's still MS X4 vs logitech G110 for a fiver more.
I think I'm gonna go for the Logitech but i wanted to know if anyone had any more opinions...?
Looking online, it seems to be that the X4 is appreciated for being cheap and good.... But £5 isn't a lot especially considering ill be using it nearly everyday.
I know the anti ghosting covers less keys on the G110....Would that make an actual difference?
There's also the Thermaltake esports keyboard for £30.....
Help?
Last edited by Mehta23; February 14th, 2013 at 09:20 AM.
Microsoft Sidewinder X4 : £35
Thermaltake Challenger : £35 from Scan
Logitech G110 : £40
Logitech Illuminated Keyboard : £50
Steelseries G6v or summing : £50 from asda
I can get a £15 Amazon voucher (maybe multiple) so I don't know if that means as I should go for one of the more expensive ones that'll then be in my budget, or get one of the cheaper ones for even cheaper.
Honestly Stinky! -_- I liked the picture of the mouse tbf....
I don't know lf the Tt Challenger Pro is worth getting - £50, apparently laptop like keys and macro buttons.....
The standard challenger, I think, is the same sans macros
Edit: but without that scissor action/laptop stylee keys.
I think I'm gonna have to head on down to PC World and have a go on some of the keyboards. I think I'd prefer a keybaord that's easy to type on - membrane or laptop style- and just get one.
I think it's now between MS Sidewinder X4, TT Challenger Pro, and "cheap chiclet alternative"
I think the Logitech Iluminated keyboard or the cheaper X4... or the even cheaper Cheery Xt would be enough for me. Making the decision will be hard.
Until I try the X4, I'll assume that all of them have the shallow travel I'm looking for, but excluding the X4, none (Inc TT Challenger) have gaming features like anti ghosting (cherry and the Illuminated don't have macros either) - two things I don't know much about. I probably won't need macros for gaming although they might proven useful in things like Photo shop. ( the G500 mouse has 3 buttons on it... Not sure if that helps)
Last edited by Mehta23; February 16th, 2013 at 04:33 PM.
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