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Old January 27th, 2013, 03:35 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Could it be that the big SSD price drop is coming to an end? I don't have any clue about that. But if it is, now would be the time to buy, before prices climb any more.

Never an easy decision. And all too often even the best-informed decision will have a person kicking themselves only days later. That's how it works!

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Old January 27th, 2013, 03:39 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Yeah. I mean, the once £125 OCZ Agility 3 is over £140.

However, other sites like Scan or Ebuyer.com have the same price as before. Only this is still higher than the Amazon ones when you include delivery

How much better would having 2 separate SSD's be?

Is this any good?


http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Mushkin+Chronos+240GB+2.5%22+SATA-III+Solid+State+Hard+Drive+?productId=49034

Samsung 840 for £125! Worth it over the £125 Mushkin or £135 SanDisk?
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If you keep dithering you'll never make the purchase - grab that Samsung while it's hot!
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But....

Looking at its specs, the read / write are a bit lower than that of the sandisk. Although of course, that might not make biggest difference to the actual speed.

Also I read an article which showed various benchmarks. It was interesting to find that the Samsung and Intel SSD's were highest, but the sandisk was the fastest at opening and booting files...

There's also this :

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We're a little cautious about the TLC-equipped 120 GB Samsung 840, but much more confident in the 250 GB version, which has so much NAND on-board that endurance across all of those cells is less of an issue. That's good news, considering we're attracted to the price per gigabyte of capacity this SSD offers (it's going for $180 right now on Newegg, a special deal).

You certainly could buy a more proven repository if you're uneasy about a TLC-based SSD. Crucial’s 256 GB m4 would be one we'd recommend to the conservative crowd. It is close to the same price, but doesn't fare as well in our benchmarks. Meanwhile, Mushkin's Enhanced Chronos is the cheapest 240 GB SandForce-based SSD, though it doesn't seem like any better of a bargain. For $165, you save a bit of cash, but give up 10 GB. That's hardly a great trade-off.
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I don't think anyone here has anything else to add now

Its like you've walked 10 miles in the desert to the nearest shop, walked to the drinks fridge and can't decide between Buxton and Evian. They're both refreshing and you'll find little difference between them.
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Yeah. You're right. Although they're both from someone's tap ;-)

I guess I just can't decide on what to do, and even though I can't really be disappointed with any choice of I just wanna get the SSD that'll service the best, for the longest, and for the cheapest.

I think I'm gonna buy that sandisk unless anyone can tell me not to.

Sorry for being so indecisive and really dragging out this thread to the point where no one can really do anything. :-P

Sorry!

Some benchmarks on toms hardware show the 840 to be almost twice as good both overall and in the 4K random tests. I think I'm finally ready.

Both the sandisk and the Samsung have 3 years warranty, but they'll last longer than that right?

Edit : checking online, both SSD's are the same price. Samsung seems to offer marginally better performance. I'm assuming it's reliable enough.

So there it is.

Thanks to everyone that helped me out in this thread. I honestly don't know where I'd be without you

Also, the prices of the Sandisk have gone to £150 on Scan.

Now I'm definitely getting that 840 Samsung.
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Ah hand was forced

If it helps, I'd probably get the Samsung too.

I just have a Dell OEM (LITEON) SSD and it made a lot of difference.
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Yeah, like with choosing my graphics card, I needed that extra push (by digitalcontroller) although that was a different story as I managed to pay 120 more than I could've and got a 670 FTW as opposed to a 560TI.

Everyone will be very happy and relieved that I,Mehta23, have finally managed to put an order for a Samsung 850 250GB SSD. It didn't take long :P

Payment didn't authorise...



Edit: As I was about to re-purchase the Samsung 840, I noticed there was a Hexus review, so I decided to read it.

Then I accidentally read the benchmarking stuff against the Sandisk extreme Although I now also realise that a difference in a benchmark wont be the same as in day to day use. I'm thinking that with these two drives, the cheapest is the one to get...

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Then we have the write performance and I'd have to say it is the total opposite, one of the worst modern day write speeds of next-gen SSDs. You may wonder how a product that's so good can also be so bad. Well, you have a really good controller that can read from bottom of the barrel flash really quickly, but at the same time, without storing user data in the DRAM buffer, can't overcome TLC's low write performance.
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Seems like the Sandisk is a lil bit better in the benchmarking writing test than the Samsung. Otherwise they are roughly similar. So I'm back at the same position as before. Still thinking about getting the 840 for £20 less than the SanDisk [£10 less than on amazon]

But I think I'm still going for that Sammy. Different reviews on different websites say slightly different things, but most show that they are roughly equal overall. I want the SSD for mostly opening up stuff( read) and gaming (write) which is said to be roughly at the same speed.


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Samsung.

based on everyone saying that the difference would make little difference

I'm really sorry for having to go back into this. Hopefully it's just a quick question : when does computer use become 'intensive'? My ssd would be a boot drive, and i use my PC nearly every day, if that helps.

Just that one or two reviews didn't recommend the 840 for intensive use and said to get the 840Pro. It's only £60 more, but I'm guessing the difference isn't worth that.

What makes it harder is that TH pretty much shows that the Samsung is better. Hexus shows the Sandisk is better overall (same read, much better writes)

I'm really sorry and im gonna stop posting now
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I want the SSD for mostly opening up stuff( read) and gaming (write) which is said to be roughly at the same speed.
Unless your games are radically different to mine, the bulk of the disk I/O ops will be reads.

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one or two reviews didn't recommend the 840 for intensive use
I'd suspect that "intensive use" means something like 24/7 operation in a database file server or similar.... a boot drive in a home PC leads a very pampered life compared to that.
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that during gaming, a lot of activity is writing...

My idea of intensive use was a lil bit less...intensive than that :P

I re-read some reviews of the drives. The first times, I stupidly mis read the benchmark data (120Gb Sandisk vs 250Gb Samsung)... With drives of the same size the performance is actually pretty much the same (sorry it took me this long

I think I'm gonna go with the SanDisk now. I don't think I'll be handling incompressible data ( main pitfall of Sandforce controllers) and [on some websites] it has a better 4K write speed so I think it's the one for me.
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The activity during gaming is a far cry from a drive being used as a database server repository. Your idea of intensive is actually quite tame to actual intensive use.

If it is going to be your OS drive, the primary use you're getting out of it is *read* - loading programs into memory. That should help make a decision. However, if you *are* going to game, know that it will quickly show its merits (and faults) when you do so - but even then, the difference between any halfway decent SSD and a mechanical drive will be pretty noticeable.
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Yeah, I noticed after the second read of the benchmarks that the difference between the drives at times, is like 1MBs. IRL that makes pretty much no difference, but on a chart- that could make a small difference seem much bigger.

DO you think I should get the Sammy then John?
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that during gaming, a lot of activity is writing...
The only file writes any of my games make are saves, and those are pretty infrequent.

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How does it perform on reads though, both sequential and random? The drive will spend much more time doing those than writing data, unless it's also used as the primary storage volume.
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I think you should get whichever you feel most comfortable with - I opted for Intel drives myself b/c of their superior customer service. I've never owned a Samsung device, but I have *many* SanDisk UFDs - so, if my choices were down to those two companies, you can bet your bottom dollar I'd opt for SanDisk just b/c of past experience.

But, in the end, its what *you* want. I'll never had a WD HD in any of my systems - and I know 3 friends who say the same about Seagate, which is what I use solely for mech drives. I may end up picking a drive b/c of my previous experiences that is slightly less spec worthy - but as you already noted, on paper and real world performance are often two completely different animals.

So, there you have it - I'd go with my past experiences and pick SanDisk. What you do is what you do.
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Think I'm gonna go for the Sandisk. Although it's from Amazon, I'm hoping I wouldn't need to bother with RMA's ( their RMA base is in the UK. by any chance, is it?)
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Not entirely sure about that at all. I think it might be a good idea to contact them directly and ask.

Yet another consideration when buying - where to buy from.
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Asked the question, waiting for a reply now. Just looked on the reviews on Amazon UK

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My main issue: Their RMA process is backwards- Wait 48 hours for RMA approval, then they send you a shipping label. Once you send them your drive they will send you a replacement drive within 7-10 business days. I have replaced drives with other companies over the years, and the process has been:
- Send the customer a replacement drive immediately
- Customer returns defective drive using the return address label included with the replacement drive package
- If the defective drive isn't returned within 30 days, the customer is charged for the replacement drive
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Good on ya. Now you're getting somewhere.

I've also been known to pay up to 1% more for a device if I get it from a reputable place that gives me no hassles for returns.

For me CS is one of the biggest deal makers / breakers when purchasing items. Any items. Even cars. Hence my love for all things Nissan, even though my current vehicle is a Mercedes.
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1% would be £1.30... Unless you meant 10.

From Scan, the Samsung is £128, the Sandisk is £147.
On Amazon the Samsung is £130, the Sandisk is £138.

Other sellers on amazon sell both drives for £150+

(Scan have a 1year Return To Base period + 3 years manufacturers warranty on top. )

But it looks like the sandisk rma procedure is good for me (no shipping charges) so as soon as I get my confirmation from Sandisk I think I'll be ready.
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lol oops, yeah, 10%.

Now that you've graduated from online shopping 101, pass on some of your expertise to your friends. You'd be surprised at just how uneducated people really are.

One more thing: If you buy from an auction house, it's usually best to buy at 10-15% *UNDER* cost at other places - after all there is almost no Return procedure at most auction houses other than that specified by the actual sellers.
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Graduated... I lol'd :-D

10% would mean max £153... So the Scan £147 price would be recommended by you? Or do you think the direct sandisk rma would be sufficient?

The only problem with spending a Lil bit more is that it brings the cost closer to some of the higher drives (840 pro)
However, that £40 saved by not getting a 840Pro would be handy for the desperately needed new mouse :-P

Oh no! Kingston Hyper X 240GB is also £140 on Amazon.

But again, there's hardly any performance difference, and i think I'd prefer the sandisk...


I've just realised that if the SSD is my boot drive... Any problem would mean my PC is unusable :-( so a quick rma would probably be very valuable actually.
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Having trouble deciding between:

1) Samsung 840 Pro: SAMSUNG MZ-7PD128BW - Newegg.com

2) OCZ Vector: OCZ Vector Series VTR1-25SAT3-128G Solid State Drive - Newegg.com

I am leaning towards the Sammy because of the rave reviews across many sites, including Tom's Hardware Award.

On a side note, I have already established that I'm going to do a fresh install of Windows on the SSD, but haven't decided what I should do with my SG Barracuda.
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Both of you might be interested in this - but you better hurry.

SAMSUNG SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD250KW 2.5" 250GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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I'm from the UK, so no Newegg here :-( I'd love a 840 Pro but spending nearly £200 is a bit much for me.

Quick question: how often do you normal have to write incompressible data?
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Truthfully, I don't need an SSD that is bigger than 128GB. I'm primarily using it as a boot drive, and maybe for applications like Adobe Dreamweaver/Photoshop. That's about it though. I might put a game like Skyrim on it.
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I have my old 80 GB and I bought a new 180 GB Cherryville - I thought I would not need a 180 GB but I'm down to 25 GB free.

Developer tools and games take up a lot of space! lol

And if it is the same price as a 128 GB Drive you're considering, why not go for the size?
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Few hours too late for that.

Very soon I'm gonna finally pull the trigger and get my ssd

Of course then the compulsion to just build a new system will rear it's head again. Lol
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Mostly because I didn't have the money at the time of that sale lol.
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Upon purchase we would recommend providing the following information in order to register your SSD for warranty purposes:

- Exact model of the device
- Serial number (Take note of all the numbers that you can find on the device)
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- Capacity of your device
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- Date of purchase (MM/DD/YYYY)
- Do you see the letter "R" or the word "Refurb/Refurbished" at the back of the device?
- SanDisk Sealed Retail Packaging when purchased? (Yes/No)

We remain at your service for any additional information or assistance.
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They didn't really answer my question...


Also, I apparently ordered the Sandisk SSD off Amazon ( I don't recall this, but it might have been late at night) and it's saying it'll despatch at the end of this month.... So I have pretty much "reserved" that SSD for the £138 price until a few days before the 28th...

Might have to cancel and either re-order from Scan, or order a different SSD.

(Another) Quick Question: If my SSD was to have a fault, would it be more likely to happen within the first 12 months of having it?

Another thing : I've just noticed that everywhere, the Sandisk is either d or out of stock? Scan says it's been overdue since January....


Edit: Sandisk replied again with the exact same email, just with the words 'send' and 'at your own expense' in bold. However, they also sent a copy of their warranty stuff, and it looks like the closest depot is in Ireland.... Which would cost between £15-25.

After a quick search online, only Crucial and Kingston have rma depots in the UK. Apprently Intel will pay for shipping to Holland. Shipping in the UK is cheap / might be free....



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Could it be that the big SSD price drop is coming to an end? I don't have any clue about that. But if it is, now would be the time to buy, before prices climb any more.

Never an easy decision. And all too often even the best-informed decision will have a person kicking themselves only days later. That's how it works!
Sandisk has increased on Amazon to 150. Kingston and Sammy increased also but by a few pence.

Prices on scan are the same as before but there's a 240GB Intel 330 for 140 ( 2 more than the SanDisk I bought)
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Looks like I'm an owner of the Samsung 840 Pro SSD now lol. Won eBay auction today.
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He'll yea! 120 or bigger?
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256GB for $225 + free expedited shipping (no tax either). Quite the steal, imo.
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Most Def! I may just go with the 840 256g for 170 (ish). I'm tired of waiting to get mine
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I've just realised that the cost of shipping to Ireland or Holland is the same....

I think I might cancel my sandisk and order the Samsung 840 again... The only thing putting me off is the difference in write speeds (around 5-10MBs) and im gonna guess that it wouldn't make much if difference. The Sammy was shown to be slightly better at Reading and is 10 cheaper and will be from scan - so I can return it to scan UK for free if i had problem.

So... Anyone agree?
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I got kinda bored waiting for my Sandisk to ship. Other forums seem to die whenever I make a thread (not this one though, that's why I ove you guys)

Guess what?

I ordered that Samsung 840!

Oh yeah.

I did.
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Guess what?

I ordered that Samsung 840!

Oh yeah.

I did.
It's about time!
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Yeah, I know. I just got tired of waiting and researching... Plus the sandisk was out of stock so it'd take ages to arrive.

I think I'd be happier with Samsung customer service, and the rma would cost the same.... As well as having the option to use scans RTB warranty:-P
I can't remember exactly but i think the Samsung just beat the Sandisk is all of the tests (smashed it in incompressibles) but the Sandisk (when it beat the Sammy) beat it by more of a margin.

Although, saying that, the actual real life difference less than 10MBs would probably be small...
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Yeah, I know. I just got tired of waiting and researching... Plus the sandisk was out of stock so it'd take ages to arrive.

I think I'd be happier with Samsung customer service, and the rma would cost the same.... As well as having the option to use scans RTB warranty:-P
I can't remember exactly but i think the Samsung just beat the Sandisk is all of the tests (smashed it in incompressibles) but the Sandisk (when it beat the Sammy) beat it by more of a margin.

Although, saying that, the actual real life difference less than 10MBs would probably be small...
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Think I'm going to microcenter today and getting mine
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Is there anything I need to do re: getting my SSD set up? I've seen a video about Intel ISR or whatever it's called when it "intelligently" loads things from HDD to SSD....

I don't know the best way to get Windows up and running... And other things like TRIM, Achi etc... And also how i should spread my data across the two drives.

But after that I might consider dual booting with some Linux :-P

Obvs I have lil idea what I'm doing :P

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I'd advise a clean installation of Windows to the SSD, assuming it's going to be the system volume. Win7 is clever enough to detect the drive type and partition it correctly, along with disabling the scheduled defrag.

TRIM is supported natively in the OS, but its effectiveness also depends on the ability of the drivers to pass the commands. The AMD chipset drivers for my mainboard still don't do this 100%, so I use the standard Win7 ACHI drivers; a healthy drive and reliable data is more imprtant than a couple of dozen benchmark points.
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I didn't do anything at all. I literally closed my HDD with ghost (had to do a sector copy cause ghost isn't Linux filesystem-aware) and just threw it on my SSD. I wouldn't recommend that with Windows though. But plug it in and install it..
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I'd advise a clean installation of Windows to the SSD, assuming it's going to be the system volume. Win7 is clever enough to detect the drive type and partition it correctly, along with disabling the scheduled defrag.

TRIM is supported natively in the OS, but its effectiveness also depends on the ability of the drivers to pass the commands. The AMD chipset drivers for my mainboard still don't do this 100%, so I use the standard Win7 ACHI drivers; a healthy drive and reliable data is more imprtant than a couple of dozen benchmark points.
Agreed, I been wanting to do a fresh install of windows for at least a year anyway. (ever since I got the enterprise version from school)

Plus its always a good thing to redo it every once and a while to get rid of junk that you don't really need.

My issue is that I know I want to dual-boot 8 and 7. I also am gonna start playing with VMware and using virtual servers (for school and for my own entertainment)

I'm seriously considering saying **** it and going for the Samsung 840 512Gb
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I was advising my friend on SSD's, telling him to get it from scan cos of the long RTB period.

For SSD's/HDD's (at least) they only have a 1 month RTB , even on the SSD I bought.

:Facepalm:

At least I didnt overpay for the Samsung, so it's not really a lose.
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My SSD arrived!

Question is, where shall i put it? I assume they don't create much heat, but i don't want it to block airflow or not get enough air.
I have a CM Storm Enforcer.

Options :

1. Put in a 3.5" bracket and put it above/below the HDD at the bottom here :

2. Remove the HDD cage and put it on top of the bit holding the HDD here :

3. Rotate HDD cage and put it on one of the slots there

4. Put it in the SSD cage on the bottom of the case (will require moving of the PSU cables somewhere, so it's probably a bad idea)

Ssd cage :

3.5" bracket :
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Question is, where shall i put it? I assume they don't create much heat, but i don't want it to block airflow or not get enough air.
I have a CM Storm Enforcer.

Options :

1. Put in a 3.5" bracket and put it above/below the HDD at the bottom here :

2. Remove the HDD cage and put it on top of the bit holding the HDD here :

3. Rotate HDD cage and put it on one of the slots there

4. Put it in the SSD cage on the bottom of the case (will require moving of the PSU cables somewhere, so it's probably a bad idea)

Ssd cage :

3.5" bracket :
I need to figure out what I'm going to do with my SSD. It doesn't come with a adjusted bracket for 2.5", but my case already has removable trays that slide in and out. I may just buy some screws and just have it mount to one side. It's not like the PC moves at all, so it's not that big of a deal imo.
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Yeah, true. My question is more 'would it be bad for the SSD to go under the HDD at the bottom of the case'...
I heard that you should leave a empty slot between each HDD, not sure if that translates to ssd' s too.

I suppose for the mean time it won't make a difference, so I'm gonna start getting windows on it now. I guess it's just the same as i did on the HDD - but can i then use software to move programs, games and stuff like My Documents over onto it?

Edit: after spending all this time getting the cabling to fit in the case, I'm now installing Windows onto the SSD - with the HDD unplugged. Once it's installed, what do I need to do? Do I need to bother reinstalling drivers etc?

Edit : windows is now installed! What's the best way to move over some of the things from the HDD, and to run things from it? I'm guessing I should use the disk I got with my SSD? Anything else?.
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Yeah, true. My question is more 'would it be bad for the SSD to go under the HDD at the bottom of the case'...
I heard that you should leave a empty slot between each HDD, not sure if that translates to ssd' s too.

I suppose for the mean time it won't make a difference, so I'm gonna start getting windows on it now. I guess it's just the same as i did on the HDD - but can i then use software to move programs, games and stuff like My Documents over onto it?

Edit: after spending all this time getting the cabling to fit in the case, I'm now installing Windows onto the SSD - with the HDD unplugged. Once it's installed, what do I need to do? Do I need to bother reinstalling drivers etc?

Edit : windows is now installed! What's the best way to move over some of the things from the HDD, and to run things from it? I'm guessing I should use the disk I got with my SSD? Anything else?.
Me thinks you'd need to re-install whatever drivers since it's a fresh install of the OS. As for the copying, use whatever cloning software you were given with the SSD.
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Wherever you can fit it and still access the cable connections. As you suggest, it produces negligable heat and will operate in any orientation.

The four HDD bays in my own chassis are occupied with platter drives, so I attached the 2.5" cradle that came with my SSD to the top of the drive cradle by drilling a couple of suitably-sized holes to take the supplied screws.

Btw, a friend has run with one stuck vertically using Velcro tape for over two years without a problem!
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I was told that I could just stick it behind the motherboard and it'd be fine too!
I was more concerned of it blocking airflow to my hdd and the rest of the pc although i don't know why.

Putting it in a 3.5" bay with the HDD wouldn't have worked with just one SATA power cable for it, the HDD and the optical drive...

This meant I had to break out the screwdriver and attach the ssd cage to the HDD bays.... And whilst I was checking everything, i realised that the sata cable wouldn't reach to the optical drive :facepalm:

So i had to use two cables and I probably would be been ok putting the drives on top of each other... But at least they've both got air... And there's room in the case (cable management was hard this time round)

TL;DR

I wasted time trying to get the SSD,HDD, and optical drive powered off one cable. Int eh end, I still had to use 2, but at least now it's a bit more roomy.


Alright, I just need to do a few more windows updates and install a few drivers...

I'm guessing the data migration disk will help, but how do i run some programmes off the HDD and others off the ssd?

I'm thinking of just putting my documents, downloads, pictures and video folders and then a few programs like steam, photo shop, chrome etc... And then one or two games (I have 195GB left already and I've downloaded nothing! I was told to always leave like 20% free as well...? ) Does that sound ok?

Would it be worth my time to try that Intel Smart Caching thingymabob...?

Edit: Running windows solely off the SSD...man - It's such a weird experience! Everything's really fast and there's no constant noise from the HDD!

Edit 2 : I was having a quick look at some "SSD Tips"... I remember some people were talking about pagefiles and stuff....whats teh best thing to do with it? Although, I might worry about this later, after I've set up everything
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