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I just installed it; it looks promising. I played around with the US map, tried out a few of the tests (oh dear...my geography is much rustier than I thought, but I knew all the state capitals!). I didn't see any errors, but I dislike how a state, once selected as an answer, isn't dimmed out or something to show you've already correctly selected it.


Yes, definitely a bug report. However, its Help | About info says to file bugs at bugs.kde.org, so that's where I'd do it; here's their page there.
I'll try bug report later, when I got more time. Now I'm wondering if it is a bug or mistake, or it could be that the devs have taken the "republican" view that Northern Ireland is part of Ireland (Republic of Ireland), i.e. it's political and part of "The Troubles".
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles

In Gnome under the region and language settings I've seen Taiwan listed as "Taiwan Province of China" rather than "Taiwan Republic of China". Province of China is what the Beijing government says, because it's of the opinion that Taiwan is part of mainland PRC and not a separate country.

Think the United Nations, certainly the CIA World Factbook and the Taiwan government refers to it as Republic of China, and not part of mainland PRC at all. Taiwan ROC. KGeography refers to it as a separate country.
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It's clearly from OLPC, the center icon is a dead giveaway, but I don't know more than that.

The turtle at the bottom suggests something with Logo to me, and the palette says paint. So, I'll guess some Logo / turtle / paint sort of thing on a OLPC.
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It's clearly from OLPC, the center icon is a dead giveaway, but I don't know more than that.

The turtle at the bottom suggests something with Logo to me, and the palette says paint. So, I'll guess some Logo / turtle / paint sort of thing on a OLPC.
Yup it's OLPC. The Sugar interface. I was looking at the status of it recently and thinking about it. The $100 laptop turned out to be a $200 laptop in the end. And now these days we've got the $50 Chinese Android tablet and smart-phone, that's become very popular in emerging markets where the "XO" laptop was originally intended.
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I do not know that 'TMO' is but i can help with disabling sys alerts about new updates.
T Mobile is phone carrier. They have the most awful web site, people have been complaining about it for years. Now they are dorking with a beta version of an upgrade.

Why I am not sure - I was using Ubuntu. I use private browsing, Adblock, and NoScript. I toss everything on closing the browser. I do forget to enable certain scripts on sites, but every time I turn around there are more damn scripts. I've had sites tell me to use a "normal" computer.

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Nailed down my freeze issue, which would only happen when watching YouTube videos for so long (over two hours). now this never happened in ChromeOS but i figured out its cause:

My Chromebook is overheating, temps were skyrocketing to 160*F

CPU was maxed out at 100% and load average was up to 2.50 in top.

Why is this? close down the tab with YouTube and temps immediately decline to a more acceptable level (100 or less *F) and the fan shuts down. when viewing videos it's red hot and the fan is running full hilt. the cooling system isn't THAT badly designed is it? the computer has plenty of RAM, and this is YouTube and Adobe Flash. that shouldn't demand that much!

When temps approach ~145*F+ YouTube videos occasionally freeze while audio continues playing, then suddenly re-syncs and plays, and this process repeats until it gets past 160*F and then the entire system hard locks. have to hold down power and reboot. now if i hold my computer in mid-air with the palm of many hand as if my laptop is a serving tray, it seems to run cool enough, but this shouldn't happen.

While performance is pretty good regardless, it's still a bit of an issue. seen in this screencap the temps are still quite high and load is a bit high when all i have is AF open in Chrome, and Rhythmbox going. i've not seen figures in top like that since the old VectorLinux box (which was a PIII 650MHz with a paltry 640MB of RAM)

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T Mobile is phone carrier. They have the most awful web site, people have been complaining about it for years. Now they are dorking with a beta version of an upgrade.

Why I am not sure - I was using Ubuntu. I use private browsing, Adblock, and NoScript. I toss everything on closing the browser. I do forget to enable certain scripts on sites, but every time I turn around there are more damn scripts. I've had sites tell me to use a "normal" computer.

Does any repository have a plain jane browser that you can just turn off javascript and images? I'm not sure about the new ones. Opera is using new coding (REL?) and some of the browsers in software had the same system.

I think I have FX 14. I still want the ESR version.
Pretty sure chrome can
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Well, it looks like I have at least partial connection with the school wifi...
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Nailed down my freeze issue, which would only happen when watching YouTube videos for so long (over two hours). now this never happened in ChromeOS but i figured out its cause:

My Chromebook is overheating, temps were skyrocketing to 160*F

CPU was maxed out at 100% and load average was up to 2.50 in top.

Why is this? close down the tab with YouTube and temps immediately decline to a more acceptable level (100 or less *F) and the fan shuts down. when viewing videos it's red hot and the fan is running full hilt. the cooling system isn't THAT badly designed is it? the computer has plenty of RAM, and this is YouTube and Adobe Flash. that shouldn't demand that much!

When temps approach ~145*F+ YouTube videos occasionally freeze while audio continues playing, then suddenly re-syncs and plays, and this process repeats until it gets past 160*F and then the entire system hard locks. have to hold down power and reboot. now if i hold my computer in mid-air with the palm of many hand as if my laptop is a serving tray, it seems to run cool enough, but this shouldn't happen.

While performance is pretty good regardless, it's still a bit of an issue. seen in this screencap the temps are still quite high and load is a bit high when all i have is AF open in Chrome, and Rhythmbox going. i've not seen figures in top like that since the old VectorLinux box (which was a PIII 650MHz with a paltry 640MB of RAM)


It's Flash I think, for some reason it seems to be horribly inefficient in certain situations. If I'm watching Youtube or Youku videos on my Macbook, the cooling fans quickly spin-up to full-speed from idling. sounds just like jet engines. And the activity monitor is showing 95%-100% CPU occupancy with a Core 2 Duo CPU. Yet on my Linux machine, Flash video doesn't seem to cause it any undue heating or stress at all, and that's just a lowly Atom dual core at 2GHz.

Although on yours, why would Flash in Ubuntu stress the computer out, and not Flash in Chrome OS? They're both Flash for Linux, should be the same. Why is it overheating at all just from running software, especially on a new laptop? That could be poor design, "THAT badly designed is it?" and Chrome OS is not working it particularly hard.
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It's Flash I think, for some reason it seems to be horribly inefficient in certain situations. If I'm watching Youtube or Youku videos on my Macbook, the cooling fans quickly spin-up to full-speed from idling. sounds just like jet engines. And the activity monitor is showing 95%-100% CPU occupancy with a Core 2 Duo CPU. Yet on my Linux machine, Flash video doesn't seem to cause it any undue heating or stress at all, and that's just a lowly Atom dual core at 2GHz.

Although on yours, why would Flash in Ubuntu stress the computer out, and not Flash in Chrome OS? They're both Flash for Linux, should be the same. Why is it overheating at all just from running software, especially on a new laptop? That could be poor design, "THAT badly designed is it?" and Chrome OS is not working it particularly hard.
I've heard some Linux gpu driver implementations fail to provide hardware-accelerated flash support, causing a fallback to software. It is known to happen on Ubuntu.
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So, at this point, what happens--or doesn't happen? Has the school been of any help at all?
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Nailed down my freeze issue, which would only happen when watching YouTube videos for so long (over two hours). now this never happened in ChromeOS but i figured out its cause:

My Chromebook is overheating, temps were skyrocketing to 160*F

CPU was maxed out at 100% and load average was up to 2.50 in top.
Nick, guess what? I've been running YouTube videos nonstop for a couple hours on my Chromebook, in Chrome (since I believe that's what you're using) instead of my real browser, SeaMonkey, and I'm not having the issues you are. Yes, CPU use and temperature do increase, but the computer in general shows no degradation whatsoever, and nothing freezes or anything like that.

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About as helpful as Microsoft...
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Moody, are you having your laptop in your lap or on a table? on a table it never gets hot enough. in my lap after a few hours you notice it glitching then hard freeze. i used a widget to monitor the temps and top in a terminal window and there is either a huge memory leak somewhere or Flash is just bombarding the hardware that much. i let it go until it started to freeze but caught it just before the hard lock and discovered the temps were over 160*F and the remaining memory was 65 MEGAbytes. Chrome was the culprit, using 100% CPU and the most memory. closed the YouTube tab and it immediately calmed down, temps dropped to a more favorable 100-110*F and memory jumped back to 256MB free, and Chrome went from using all the CPU to using only 5.6%

on my Mac, it hardly gets hot no matter if i'm gaming or watching video online. unlike the rest of my laptops, the Mac never makes my lap red hot. (one reason i prefer tablets is because a red hot laptop is very uncomfortable) I do not think the MacBook Pro has a fan. there is no vent, and it never makes any sound unless the SuperDrive is active.

I do not think ChromeOS uses Flash for Youtube, any more than the Android app would. same reason Netflix doesn't require Silverlight in ChromeOS.
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Moody, are you having your laptop in your lap or on a table?
Almost never in my lap, and when I do it's on a lap-tray-thingy my husband bought me when I was in college. I taped four bottle caps onto its hard surface, so my laptops sit up away from the surface for better air flow. But most of the time--like right now as I type this out on my patio--they're on a table.
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i tend to use my laptop on my lap as i'm lying back on the couch when watching YouTube or just browsing. for some reason, YouTube refuses to work on my SmartTV, TiVo, or Xbox anymore, they keep stalling or rebuffering. the Chromebook is the ONLY system that can buffer and play perfectly well even in HD mode.
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I have my laptop hooked up more like a desktop. I plug the HDMI cable into a 24 inch TV and use it as a dual monitor. I also Have External Harddrives hooked to it as well as a fan. When portable I use my phone or my tablet.
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On many laptops the air inlet vents are on the bottom. Which is not a problem when using the laptop on a hard surface like a table or laptop tray. But placing it directly on your lap, which is obviously a soft surface, that could be blocking the vents and restricting the air flow. Which would certainly cause high temps and probably overheating. Placing a laptop on something like a cushion would be a definite no no.

MacBooks actually have the air vents in the hinge at the back, rather than on the bottom. Which seems to me to be more sensible and a better design.

Where are the air inlets and outlets located on a Chromebook? If they're on the bottom, it could certainly cause overheating when using it on a soft surface like your lap. In the absence of a laptop tray or anything else that would ensure the vents are not obstructed.

AFAIK any laptop should never run at something like 160F, no matter what it's doing. That's abnormal and could certainly cause problems. What can cause those temps is obstructed or inadequate cooling. Some high performance gaming rigs might run hot, but Chromebooks shouldn't.
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I know there's a setting in Flash to use hardware acceleration or not. I've got it enabled. On my Macbook I have noticed that Flash does seem to have high CPU usage when playing online video. I've read about others finding the same thing as well, it's like the Mac OS X version of Flash might not be very efficient. I've got an older white Macbook, which is Core 2 Duo with Intel graphics, running Snow Leopard.

My Linux machine is a recent Lenovo S110(only available in China I believe), which is actually a low power Atom dual core with Intel graphics. But Flash video on this is just fine, and seems to run quite efficiently. The Lenovo is my go to travel laptop that I use for work as well, really because it's so compact and lightweight.
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I've had countless laptops, and all of them on my lap. the Chromebook is the first to overheat. and what gets me is that 1) this didn't happen in ChromeOS, in fact, i do not recall the fan running much at all in it. 2) it's not like i'm playing Portal 2 or Battlefield 3, so it's not like i'm doing much to cause it to get hot in the first place, and 3) this is YouTube. should be peanuts for the dual-core Celeron in the thing.

It has to be an incompatibility somewhere. since it never happened in ChromeOS, there is something in Linux doing it. or something in Ubuntu or whatever. something either causing a memory leak, a runaway rogue app, something. it was far worse in Unity, but still does it in KDE. i am still betting it has something to do with the SSD, since the only thing that differs between mine and Moody's is that her's has an actual hard disk. i've had experience with Linux running off of flash memory, and it's not pretty. i do know when Linux has issues writing to disk, you won't notice it until it either freezes or lags. it won't outright crash like Windows does, it just keeps going until it's so corrupt that it's unrecoverable. disk write issues often manifest themselves as overtaxing CPU usage, or slow performance. overheating would be a symptom of the this much larger problem. perhaps it's best for this little computer to just get ChromeOS back until they get Linux nailed properly on it. it's just not stable in this form.
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I've had countless laptops, and all of them on my lap. the Chromebook is the first to overheat. and what gets me is that 1) this didn't happen in ChromeOS, in fact, i do not recall the fan running much at all in it. 2) it's not like i'm playing Portal 2 or Battlefield 3, so it's not like i'm doing much to cause it to get hot in the first place, and 3) this is YouTube. should be peanuts for the dual-core Celeron in the thing.

It has to be an incompatibility somewhere. since it never happened in ChromeOS, there is something in Linux doing it. or something in Ubuntu or whatever. something either causing a memory leak, a runaway rogue app, something. it was far worse in Unity, but still does it in KDE. i am still betting it has something to do with the SSD, since the only thing that differs between mine and Moody's is that her's has an actual hard disk. i've had experience with Linux running off of flash memory, and it's not pretty. i do know when Linux has issues writing to disk, you won't notice it until it either freezes or lags. it won't outright crash like Windows does, it just keeps going until it's so corrupt that it's unrecoverable. disk write issues often manifest themselves as overtaxing CPU usage, or slow performance. overheating would be a symptom of the this much larger problem.
AFAICT maxing out the CPU, GPU, or whatever shouldn't actually cause any computer to overheat. That's if the cooling is designed properly, working correctly and is not obstructed.



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perhaps it's best for this little computer to just get ChromeOS back until they get Linux nailed properly on it. it's just not stable in this form.
Yeh "this little computer" LOL They might have designed it just for Chrome OS. Which under normal circumstances may not maximise or overtax the CPU or GPU. So could have problems when something does overtax it, and its little cooling system can't deal with it. Although Moody doesn't seem to have any problem apparently. What CPU and GPU are actually in a Chromebook? I assume there's no huge Nvidias or ATI Radeons or anything like that...basic Intel or something?

I'm running Linux Mint on my little computer, and there's no problems at all. It runs nice and cool, and has great battery life. Although my little computer original came with Windows 7( pirated..welcome to China.. ), and so was probably designed to handle maxed out usage, i.e. it has adequate cooling provision. When it does play streamed Flash video, it's something like only 40-50% CPU usage, using the Chrome browser with Flash 11.9.
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i am still betting it has something to do with the SSD, since the only thing that differs between mine and Moody's is that her's has an actual hard disk.
If that is the explanation, I'm really glad I stuck with my requirement to have a hard drive.

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It sucks that your experience is so wildly different from mine. As I've said, my Chromebook--running Kubuntu 13.04--couldn't be more reliable and stable. Simply no problems like you're having with yours.

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Although Moody doesn't seem to have any problem apparently.
That's correct. It just cranks away without issues. I love it. And the longer I have it, the more I LOVE its portability. So, yeah, it's all good.
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I am not blaming Linux, i'm blaming my Chromebook. the only distro i found compatible with or how-to's for is ChrUbuntu 12.04, not sure how you got Kubuntu 13.04 instead, i had to tack on KDE and delete Unity to get that. i personally would prefer a non Ubuntu-variant myself, other Linuxes never had any problems. Vector remains my favorite. i'd try one of them if 1) it had a CD drive, i read online that it won't boot from the card reader and 2) there was not a BIOS issue reading init.rd images, which is apparently unsupported and the chrUbuntu gets around it somehow by loading after the ChromeOS kernel.

I do not know if there is a slot for a hard disk. if there is, i know where i can get one, then perhaps my luck would change? i do know that for some reason Linux refuses to be stable on solid state memory, this includes booting off of SD Cards. does anyone know if the RAM can be upgraded on Chromebooks?
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not sure how you got Kubuntu 13.04 instead, i had to tack on KDE and delete Unity to get that.
I used Synaptic.

Nick, what does lsb_release -a report? Here's mine from the Chromebook:

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$ lsb_release -a
LSB Version:    core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch:cxx-3.0-ia32:cxx-3.0-noarch:cxx-3.1-ia32:cxx-3.1-noarch:cxx-3.2-ia32:cxx-3.2-noarch:cxx-4.0-ia32:cxx-4.0-noarch:desktop-3.1-ia32:desktop-3.1-noarch:desktop-3.2-ia32:desktop-3.2-noarch:desktop-4.0-ia32:desktop-4.0-noarch:graphics-2.0-ia32:graphics-2.0-noarch:graphics-3.0-ia32:graphics-3.0-noarch:graphics-3.1-ia32:graphics-3.1-noarch:graphics-3.2-ia32:graphics-3.2-noarch:graphics-4.0-ia32:graphics-4.0-noarch:printing-3.2-ia32:printing-3.2-noarch:printing-4.0-ia32:printing-4.0-noarch:qt4-3.1-ia32:qt4-3.1-noarch
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# lshw
chrubuntu
    description: Desktop Computer
    product: Parrot ()
    vendor: GOOGLE
    version: 1.0
    serial: 123456789
    width: 32 bits
    capabilities: smbios-2.7 dmi-2.7
    configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       physical id: 0
     *-firmware
          description: BIOS
          vendor: coreboot
          physical id: 0
          version: Google_Parrot.2685.37.0
          date: 09/10/2012
          size: 1MiB
          capabilities: pci pcmcia upgrade bootselect acpi
     *-cpu:0 DISABLED
          description: CPU [empty]
          product: Pentium Pro
          vendor: GenuineIntel
          physical id: 3
          version: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 847 @ 1.10GHz
          configuration: cores=16
     *-memory
          description: System memory
          physical id: 1
          size: 3987MiB
     *-cpu:1
          product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 847 @ 1.10GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 2
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: 6.10.7
          serial: 0002-06A7-0000-0000-0000-0000
          size: 800MHz
          capacity: 800MHz
          width: 64 bits
          capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx rdtscp x86-64 constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer xsave lahf_lm arat epb xsaveopt pln pts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid cpufreq
          configuration: id=0
        *-logicalcpu:0
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.1
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:1
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.2
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:2
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.3
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:3
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.4
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:4
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.5
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:5
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.6
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:6
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.7
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:7
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.8
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:8
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.9
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:9
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.a
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:10
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.b
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:11
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.c
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:12
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.d
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:13
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.e
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:14
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.f
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:15
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.10
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
     *-pci
          description: Host bridge
          product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller
          vendor: Intel Corporation
          physical id: 100
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
          version: 09
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          configuration: driver=agpgart-intel
          resources: irq:0
        *-display
             description: VGA compatible controller
             product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
             version: 09
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
             configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
             resources: irq:42 memory:e0000000-e03fffff memory:d0000000-dfffffff ioport:1000(size=64)
        *-usb:0
             description: USB controller
             product: 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1a
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.0
             version: 04
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:21 memory:e0705800-e0705bff
        *-multimedia
             description: Audio device
             product: 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1b
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
             version: 04
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
             resources: irq:44 memory:e0700000-e0703fff
        *-pci:0
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             product: 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1c
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.0
             version: c4
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:40 memory:e0400000-e04fffff
           *-network
                description: Wireless interface
                product: AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter
                vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
                logical name: wlan0
                version: 01
                serial: b8:76:3f:71:08:15
                width: 64 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical wireless
                configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath9k driverversion=3.4.0 firmware=N/A ip=192.168.1.108 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn
                resources: irq:17 memory:e0400000-e047ffff memory:e0480000-e048ffff
        *-pci:1
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1c.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.1
             version: c4
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:41 memory:e0600000-e06fffff ioport:e0500000(size=1048576)
           *-network
                description: Ethernet interface
                product: NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
                vendor: Broadcom Corporation
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
                logical name: eth0
                version: 10
                serial: 20:89:84:81:c0:ab
                capacity: 1Gbit/s
                width: 64 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm msi msix pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
                configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=tg3 driverversion=3.123 firmware=sb latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair
                resources: irq:18 memory:e0500000-e050ffff memory:e0510000-e051ffff memory:e0600000-e06007ff
           *-generic
                description: SD Host controller
                product: NetXtreme BCM57765 Memory Card Reader
                vendor: Broadcom Corporation
                physical id: 0.1
                bus info: pci@0000:02:00.1
                version: 10
                width: 64 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
                configuration: driver=sdhci-pci latency=0
                resources: irq:19 memory:e0520000-e052ffff
        *-usb:1
             description: USB controller
             product: 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
             version: 04
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:19 memory:e0705c00-e0705fff
        *-isa
             description: ISA bridge
             product: 7 Series Chipset Family LPC Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
             version: 04
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=nm10_gpio latency=0
             resources: irq:0
        *-storage
             description: SATA controller
             product: 7 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.2
             version: 04
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: storage msi pm ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
             resources: irq:43 ioport:1060(size=8) ioport:1070(size=4) ioport:1068(size=8) ioport:1074(size=4) ioport:1040(size=32) memory:e0705000-e07057ff
        *-serial
             description: SMBus
             product: 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
             version: 04
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             configuration: driver=i801_smbus latency=0
             resources: irq:23 memory:e0706000-e07060ff ioport:400(size=32)
        *-generic UNCLAIMED
             description: Signal processing controller
             product: 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family Thermal Management Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.6
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.6
             version: 04
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm cap_list
             configuration: latency=0
             resources: memory:e0704000-e0704fff
Perhaps if we all brainstorm a bit we can figure out why you and I are having such diametrically opposed experiences on our Chromebooks.
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(sigh) Why, oh why do they have to make things difficult?

There is only one file manager that does a decent job of bulk renaming, and that is Thunar.

I am having a hell of a time finding a way to install Thunar in Mint.

I managed to convert one .wma file to .mp3 (yay!), but I have to convert the files one at a time? That's not only silly, its almost criminal...
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I managed to convert one .wma file to .mp3
So which is it?! Do you want to rename a bunch of files or convert a bunch of files?

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Um...this is Linux, not window$! Linux is the one with the powerful suite of built-in tools that lets the user do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING at a prompt. (Can't speak too much for its GUI tools, as I don't use them for batch processing.) Let us know what you're wanting to do and then we'll figure it out, okay?
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Meh. I am complaining. I do that, sometimes.

I want to mass-rename some files; last time I did it with Thunar, but it isn't in three repositories I currently have set, nor does synaptic seem to have it.

My next step is to try to install xfce, since Thunar seems to be its default file manager.

Additionally, and only marginally related (since I am trying to get some offer in my music library), I want to convert a few albums' worth of .wma files to .mp3, since I can't seem to find those particular CDs.
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Yup it's OLPC. The Sugar interface. I was looking at the status of it recently and thinking about it. The $100 laptop turned out to be a $200 laptop in the end. And now these days we've got the $50 Chinese Android tablet and smart-phone, that's become very popular in emerging markets where the "XO" laptop was originally intended.
Replying to my own post:-

I've been playing with the Sugar UI on my Linux system for the last couple of days, and it actually took me a while to work out what I was supposed to be doing with it and how things worked. I didn't find it particularly intuitive. Or even how my primary and middle school students could use an XO laptop, compared to using an Android tablet. I'm now using my Linux Mint laptop for few of my younger students, with things like Tux4Kids and the KDEdu, one nine year old Mongolian girl absolutely loves TuxTyping.

I believe one of the criticisms of OLPC, was lack of teacher training, materials and resources when the XO laptops were being deployed. And apparently many of them were going unused by the students. I'm a teacher in what's basically an emerging market, where these things might have been intended.

I brought this up in the Linux thread, because OLPC is about a Linux OS laptop.
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(sigh) Why, oh why do they have to make things difficult?

There is only one file manager that does a decent job of bulk renaming, and that is Thunar.

I am having a hell of a time finding a way to install Thunar in Mint.
From a terminal...
sudo apt-get install thunar

...or you can find it in Synaptic or Software Centre. Thunar is the default file manager for XFCE I believe. Although I never had any problem with file handling and naming in Dolphin, the default KDE file manager.

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I managed to convert one .wma file to .mp3 (yay!), but I have to convert the files one at a time? That's not only silly, its almost criminal...
That's audio format transcoding and not just straight file renaming. I don't believe Windows can do that as standard, not without installing third party software, like say DBpowerAmp. However if the WMA files have DRM, you'll be out of luck. Which is why I call it Digital Restrictions Management, because it's all about restricting what you can do with DRM'd content.

Clementine will do bulk audio format transcoding in Linux, like say WMA to MP3, provided the WMAs don't have DRM.
WMA with DRM is very much restricted to Windows Media Player only. Not even Apple Macs can play that.
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Meh. I am complaining. I do that, sometimes.
Me too.

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Can you not apt-get install it? I just did on my Chromebook, which is running Kubuntu 13.04. Or what about installing it from the Linux Mint site?

You can also install and explore some renaming utilities, such as gwenrename and krename.

Better yet, how about renaming your files from a command line? If you want to go that route, post some info about what you have and what you want, and off we'll go!

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I've never converted wma to mp3, but after a quick look around, I think ffmpeg will do the trick. There's some info about it, and some other stuff, here.
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However if the WMA files have DRM, you'll be out of luck. Which is why I call it Digital Restrictions Management, because it's all about restricting what you can do with DRM'd content.
Please. I can transcode DRM'd content with speaker out jack, a line-in jack, a speaker cable, and windows sound recorder.
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Please. I can transcode DRM'd content with speaker out jack, a line-in jack, a speaker cable, and windows sound recorder.
Which is what's known as the analog hole. However that is time consuming as it has to be done in real time, and one song at a time most likely. Which it is legal for personal listening AFAIK but IANAL. I'm sure the RIAA would love to be able to close the analog hole though.

The other method is to burn audio CDs of the DRM'd songs, and rip them in the desired format. Provided the DRM allows the burning of audio CDs. And this is what Apple actually suggested for their DRM'd iTunes Store music.
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Code:
~ $ sudo apt-get install thunar
[sudo] password for dngrsone: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package thunar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'thunar' has no installation candidate
I am running Mint 15 Cinnamon with KDE-full running on top of that.

Apparently, Thunar is invisible to my machine.

Code:
~ $ sudo apt-get install mint-meta-xfce
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 mint-meta-xfce : Depends: gtk2-engines-xfce but it is not installable
                  Depends: thunar but it is not installable
                  Depends: thunar-archive-plugin but it is not installable
                  Depends: thunar-media-tags-plugin but it is not installable
                  Depends: thunar-volman but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-appfinder but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-mixer but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-panel but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-places-plugin but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-session but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: xfce4-settings but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfconf but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfdesktop4 but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-screenshooter but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfwm4 but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
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If this is going to be a one shot deal then I'd recommend the first thing that came to my mind - a find loop as shown in Moody's last link above with ffmpeg.

You'd be done by now.

Unless you want Thunar just because you do.
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Code:
~ $ sudo apt-get install thunar
[sudo] password for dngrsone: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package thunar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'thunar' has no installation candidate
I am running Mint 15 Cinnamon with KDE-full running on top of that.

Apparently, Thunar is invisible to my machine.

Code:
~ $ sudo apt-get install mint-meta-xfce
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 mint-meta-xfce : Depends: gtk2-engines-xfce but it is not installable
                  Depends: thunar but it is not installable
                  Depends: thunar-archive-plugin but it is not installable
                  Depends: thunar-media-tags-plugin but it is not installable
                  Depends: thunar-volman but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-appfinder but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-mixer but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-panel but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-places-plugin but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-session but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: xfce4-settings but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfconf but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfdesktop4 but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfce4-screenshooter but it is not installable
                  Depends: xfwm4 but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
This is Linux Mint 15 KDE edition, Cinnamon not installed.
Code:
mike@mike-Ideapad-S110:~ > sudo apt-get install thunar
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  exo-utils libexo-1-0 libexo-common libexo-helpers libthunarx-2-0
  libxfce4ui-1-0 libxfce4util-common libxfce4util6 libxfconf-0-2 thunar-data
  xfce-keyboard-shortcuts xfconf
Suggested packages:
  thunar-archive-plugin thunar-media-tags-plugin
Recommended packages:
  libxfce4util-bin xfce4-panel thunar-volman tumbler
The following NEW packages will be installed
  exo-utils libexo-1-0 libexo-common libexo-helpers libthunarx-2-0
  libxfce4ui-1-0 libxfce4util-common libxfce4util6 libxfconf-0-2 thunar
  thunar-data xfce-keyboard-shortcuts xfconf
0 upgraded, 13 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
Need to get 2,710 kB of archives.
After this operation, 11.0 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
Code:
mike@mike-Ideapad-S110:~ > sudo apt-get install mint-meta-xfce
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  add-apt-key exo-utils gtk2-engines-xfce inxi libexo-1-0 libexo-common
  libexo-helpers libgarcon-1-0 libgarcon-common libgnome-bluetooth11
  libkeybinder0 libnm-gtk-common libnm-gtk0 libtagc0 libthunarx-2-0
  libunique-1.0-0 libxfce4ui-1-0 libxfce4util-common libxfce4util6
  libxfconf-0-2 mint-artwork-xfce mint-backgrounds-xfce mint-meta-core
  mint-stylish-addon network-manager-gnome network-manager-pptp-gnome p7zip
  policykit-1-gnome pppoe thunar thunar-archive-plugin thunar-data
  thunar-media-tags-plugin thunar-volman xfce-keyboard-shortcuts
  xfce4-appfinder xfce4-mixer xfce4-panel xfce4-places-plugin
  xfce4-screenshooter xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfconf xfdesktop4
  xfdesktop4-data xfwm4
Suggested packages:
  irssi xchat konversation quassel network-manager-openconnect-gnome
  network-manager-openvpn-gnome network-manager-vpnc-gnome p7zip-full xfce4
  xfwm4-themes
Recommended packages:
  hddtemp libxfce4util-bin gnome-keyring gnome-bluetooth tumbler xscreensaver
  xfce4-volumed
The following NEW packages will be installed
  add-apt-key exo-utils gtk2-engines-xfce inxi libexo-1-0 libexo-common
  libexo-helpers libgarcon-1-0 libgarcon-common libgnome-bluetooth11
  libkeybinder0 libnm-gtk-common libnm-gtk0 libtagc0 libthunarx-2-0
  libunique-1.0-0 libxfce4ui-1-0 libxfce4util-common libxfce4util6
  libxfconf-0-2 mint-artwork-xfce mint-backgrounds-xfce mint-meta-core
  mint-meta-xfce mint-stylish-addon network-manager-gnome
  network-manager-pptp-gnome p7zip policykit-1-gnome pppoe thunar
  thunar-archive-plugin thunar-data thunar-media-tags-plugin thunar-volman
  xfce-keyboard-shortcuts xfce4-appfinder xfce4-mixer xfce4-panel
  xfce4-places-plugin xfce4-screenshooter xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfconf
  xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-data xfwm4
0 upgraded, 47 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
Need to get 24.9 MB of archives.
After this operation, 54.1 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
I didn't download and install Thunar or XFCE, because I don't require them. But it all looks OK to me.

A repo problem?
What repos are you using? I'm using default Ubuntu ones, not changed them....ubuntu.com/ubuntu etc.
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Well, Thunar has some good stuff going for it when it comes to dealing with media files-- auto rename based on tags and such...

I tried fixing the dependencies through aptitude (I know, not supposed to mix aptitude and apt, but it was worth a try), and the last thing I did before coming in to work was to open the Software Sources manager and do a repair and clear cache.

Maybe that will help, I don't know.
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can Synaptic install non-Buntu distros or is it just limited to *buntu distros only? my problem is mostly revolving around *Buntu and i'd like a non-Buntu based distro again. not that it will help with the SSD issue. even Puppy had issues with booting and running off SD cards in the past
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I think it just depends on whether there is a repository for Synaptic to draw from.
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is it possible to add-apt repository from say, Vector, SuSE or some other distro? right now i'm worried about compatibility, and i heard that the ChromeBook BIOS doesn't support init.rd images and am stuck wondering what will boot after the ChromeOS kernel. i've searched and all the Chromebook Linux how-to's involve Ubuntu. i don't *want* ubuntu

Worse comes to worse, i'm blowing Linux off and putting ChromeOS back until they can get more options for Linux. having only ONE distro that overheats the machine is not acceptable. Besides, everything i do as of yet with my Chromebook is able to be done in ChromeOS with far less headaches.
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is it possible to add-apt repository from say, Vector, SuSE or some other distro?
Good question. I really don't know. But I'm guessing that other distributions' repositories may not be compatible with Ubuntu's. Does anyone know for sure about doing this?

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that is true, which makes me curious why so many are so anti-ChromeOS and pro-Ubuntu lately.

here's another mystery. why are so many Linux geeks so anti-OS X? isn't it built off of UNIX? or another one, why so many Linux geeks hate UNIX? seems hypocritical since neither are Microsoft, and all of them are so like each other.

As for my repo question, i meant is it possible to in Synaptic to install any non-Buntu distros like Vector or SuSE through it, which would involve adding that distro's repo. or is it limited to *Buntu only?
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Well, logic dictates that synaptic would be compatible with Debian and its variants. SuSE uses yum; I'm not sure about Vector.
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that is true, which makes me curious why so many are so anti-ChromeOS and pro-Ubuntu lately.
I can't speak for anyone but myself, and I'd hardly call myself anti-ChromeOS (in the way I'm anti-micro$oft), but I simply didn't like the limitations of COS. For the whole 30 minutes I used it, that is. And I've been pro-*buntu since I started using it way back when, because I LIKE it.

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here's another mystery. why are so many Linux geeks so anti-OS X? isn't it built off of UNIX?
Again, not speaking for anyone but myself, my only reason for being "anti-OS X" (and I've actually never even thought of myself that way, because I truly have no feelings about it one way or the other!), would simply be that--for me--it wouldn't work because of its proprietary nature. As I found with Google's idea of *nix, 30 minutes was all i could take before realizing it was too limiting/limited for me.

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I have no idea. I don't know any Linux geeks who hate UNIX. Quite the contrary, actually.

I have nothing but fond memories of--and gratitude for--UNIX, as my life would be completely different had it not been part of it.

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Right, and I guessed that other distros' repos might not work with *buntu, but I don't actually know. I'd never given any thought to this before, but all the repositories would have to follow the same structure and contain the same file types in order to work. Could be an interesting experiment!
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Check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656880
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I would imagine the different repos would cause problems. Different packaging strategies leave most unavailable for other distros
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is there any means of getting another distro onto a Chromebook? all i can find is how to get ChrUbuntu 12.04 on the thing. i have not as of yet found a single how-to involving SuSE or Fedora or Vector for that matter.

UNetbootin methods wouldn't work because 1) the internal card reader isn't supported by the Chromebook BIOS as a boot device and 2) init.rd images are not supported by Chromebook BIOSs. the only way the ChrUbuntu distro works is by using ChromeOS's actual kernel so the BIOS sees it as ChromeOS in dev mode, not as init.rd. UNetbootin images likely use init.rd or vmlinuz, not supported by the Chromebook BIOS.
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I don't know. I'm not feeling adventurous enough to give it a whirl myself--I'm really pleased with my Chromebook right now!--but given that anything is possible with Linux, I'd say it is. I just can't say how!
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I found a series of articles detailing installation of OpenSuSE on an ARM Chromebook...
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Here's one: https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:ARMChromebook
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