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Old November 24th, 2013, 08:36 PM   #1701 (permalink)
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I fixed it:

I edited the .desktop file again; there are two icon pointers-- Icon[en_US] and Icon

I had to give both items the same pointer, then erased the KDE cache files.
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Easy Tricks Portal: How to install Great Little Radio Player 1.4.5 on Various Linux distributions

I wish the Linux Thread was able to have it's own Topics. Is it possible? I believe alot of good topics get lost after awhile since everything linux is one thread!
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I don't think anyone thought, or knew, this thread would be as big and active as it's become!
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Well, I mean having a completely different thread related to Linux and Linux being the main Topic. Like this Topic is under Computers & IT.
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I wish the Linux Thread was able to have it's own Topics. Is it possible? I believe alot of good topics get lost after awhile since everything linux is one thread!

I tend to think of this stickied thread as more of a discussion of Linux in general. But if someone does have a particular issue they wish to discuss, I don't see why it shouldn't have its own thread. In fact looking at the first page of C&IT, I see three Linux related threads, each one with it's own subject. Linus Torvalds should sue, Privacy and Ubuntu, and Ubuntu 13.10.

We don't have specific stickied threads for Apple or Microsoft. However there's F@H and Let's see your desktop, both stickied.
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Well, if we overwhelm the forum with a bunch of Linux-related threads, then that might be an incentive for them to make a sub-forum specifically for Linux issues...

I can very easily create a thread with my own Minty issues.
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Could just ask me to make a subforum.

I'll need to get permission to make a subforum within a subforum but there's nothing technically in the way.

I'll get back to you all. If you don't hear anything in a few days, probably a good idea to remind me.
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Actually it seems to be more Microsoft and Windows related threads in the forum at the moment. But there's only one Apple related thread I can see. That's currently on the front page. Most of the other threads seem to be hardware, or discussions about particular softwares, like the GIMP or Photoshop.

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Do it IMO, especially if you think your Minty issues require ongoing discussion.
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A Linux Sub forum definitely has my vote. I think it would be beneficial to the site
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Well, I mean having a completely different thread related to Linux and Linux being the main Topic. Like this Topic is under Computers & IT.
A Linux sub-forum has my vote! Great idea, saptech.
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Thanks everyone...it gets my vote. Subforum was the word I couldn't think of when I brought it up!

we're going to make sure LINUX get respect. We're tired of being treated like Rodney Dangerfield!!!


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I pitched the idea to Phases, he was interested - and now the holiday is upon us and then catching up from the holiday after that.

If we'd been a day or two earlier...

Anyway, I'll update you next week, if I don't, drop me a line and remind me.

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What's the story with the spat between Canonical and Mint? C is claiming Mint is insecure, and Mint is hinting that C is behaving like MS or a dictator.

Canonical developer criticizes Linux Mint

Answering controversy: Stability vs Security is something you configure ← Segfault

I really don't like 12.04. I did like Mint 14 and would have kept it if Skype worked.
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What's the story with the spat between Canonical and Mint? C is claiming Mint is insecure, and Mint is hinting that C is behaving like MS or a dictator.

Canonical developer criticizes Linux Mint

Answering controversy: Stability vs Security is something you configure ← Segfault

I really don't like 12.04. I did like Mint 14 and would have kept it if Skype worked.
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Refresh my memory, zuben--have you tried KDE/Kubuntu? My 12.04 is beautiful beyond description, and doesn't have any of the annoying 'features' that Ubuntu 12.04 now has standard.
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I downloaded and burned one Kubuntu DVD. Tried it, and it looked flat. I don't mean all the dratted visual effects and crap that Ubuntu wants, but it seemed all gray.
I have trouble with the command line. I know what it is as I used DOS, but the terminology of that got me, too. I had to memorize every command. Now it's like learning another foreign language.

Like I've said, there are really no tutorials. Most of the easy ones tell you how to get onto Facebook. I happen to want to hook up an Epson Scanner. The usual reply is go get a new scanner and get an HP. I don't want an HP. Takes you forever to find the answer that you can't use a printer since it isn't supported. I happen to like my Pixma -i6000. It works. It prints stuff that HP won't begin to touch. But it's at least 8 years old. This is what you can't find. I simply don't want an all-in-one. Who on earth faxes anymore? The scanner interface is simply designed for most to copy. My Epson will do slides at the resolution I want.

I might just mess around after Christmas. Right now I am too immersed in making gifts to want to sit there.

What do you know about Slimboat Browser? I have Iron and that. I think I am going to delete FX since I can't get ESR going.
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I have trouble with the command line. I know what it is as I used DOS, but the terminology of that got me, too. I had to memorize every command. Now it's like learning another foreign language.
Wasn't it exactly the same when you first learned DOS, and had to memorise everything like a foreign language? It is different, many commands are different, e.g. "ls" instead of "dir", etc. Might seem hard at first, gets easier with practise of course. Go into the command line on a Mac you'll find that very much the same as Linux, because Mac OS X is a Unix OS.

I'm very much used to it now, because I abandoned Windows earlier this year out of frustration, and just use Linux Mint laptops and a Macbook.

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Like I've said, there are really no tutorials. Most of the easy ones tell you how to get onto Facebook. I happen to want to hook up an Epson Scanner. The usual reply is go get a new scanner and get an HP. I don't want an HP. Takes you forever to find the answer that you can't use a printer since it isn't supported. I happen to like my Pixma -i6000. It works. It prints stuff that HP won't begin to touch. But it's at least 8 years old. This is what you can't find. I simply don't want an all-in-one. Who on earth faxes anymore?
China!

Faxing is still a very common way of communicating and sending documents here. And I'm talking about the traditional method of faxing as well, i.e. with a fax machine and a telephone line. The local department store in my neighbourhood has a good range of fax machines, right next to the Android tablets and smart-phones. But then tape cassettes and Video CDs are still popular here as well.

Faxing is much used in technologically advanced Japan as well.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/14/world/asia/in-japan-the-fax-machine-is-anything-but-a-relic.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0&ref=world

Probably to do with the languages amongst other things. Can be much quicker to write Chinese or Japanese with a pen and paper, than it is to enter it on a QWERTY keyboard.
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I have trouble with the command line. I know what it is as I used DOS, but the terminology of that got me, too. I had to memorize every command. Now it's like learning another foreign language.

Like I've said, there are really no tutorials. Most of the easy ones tell you how to get onto Facebook. I happen to want to hook up an Epson Scanner. The usual reply is go get a new scanner and get an HP. I don't want an HP. Takes you forever to find the answer that you can't use a printer since it isn't supported. I happen to like my Pixma -i6000. It works. It prints stuff that HP won't begin to touch. But it's at least 8 years old. This is what you can't find. I simply don't want an all-in-one. Who on earth faxes anymore? The scanner interface is simply designed for most to copy.
You need this.

Banks still use the fax, other companies as well, though the smarter ones are realizing that they can scan and email signed documents, which is pretty much the same thing...
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I have trouble with the command line. I know what it is as I used DOS, but the terminology of that got me, too. I had to memorize every command. Now it's like learning another foreign language.
I have to admit that I'm scratching my head at this. I am as certain as I can be that Kubuntu can easily be installed and configured without ever touching a command line. Its settings are legendary--there are so many of them! But they're basically all accessible within its GUI. So I'm really not sure what you're referring to.

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There are probably workarounds out there, but I can't say anything for sure. I understand about the HP recommendation because--in my experience--every HP printer, scanner, or all-in-one that I've ever had has worked out of the box with Linux. So it makes sense that it's the brand that gets recommended a lot.

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Slimboat? I'm not familiar with that. Off to see what I can find...

ETA: Just installed Slimboat browser and am playing with it a bit. Looks good so far--it's fast!
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Does anyone who run KDE use Korganizer and can you add Google calendar to it? Also if I install it will it install Kontact? I don't want Kontact, if possible.

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I installed KOrganizer at some point, but don't actually use it. I just found out when I ran it that because I've disabled Akonadi server, it can't do its thing. So I can't test it for you. However, I verified that Kontact can be removed without affecting KOrganizer (at least in terms of being ABLE to remove it, without simultaneously removing KOrganizer--whether the latter will function properly with Kontact gone, I can't honestly say).

My best advice is to simply install KOrganizer and see what happens. If Kontact gets installed, too, and you don't want it, remove it and see if KOrganizer still functions.
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Banks still use the fax, other companies as well, though the smarter ones are realizing that they can scan and email signed documents, which is pretty much the same thing...
I think letters of credit(L/C) are usually sent by fax.
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HP products think they know be all and end all about what you want. I've had one of their scanners yell since I wanted to scan at 300 DPI,
They don't deal with the color printing in Photoshop. I can get the requirements of each printer and coordinate the specs of printer, scanner, and screen. They also don't like vector programs. I've used Illustrator and Inkscape on the PC, and HP either prints gibberish or takes forever, on Linux it takes forever to print a page that has any graphics.
I do crafts, and HP with that circular feed they have will not take paper heavier than certain card stock. My Canon, which has direct feed will print on anything that fits in there.
I have a degree in Graphic Arts, I do things as we were taught in college. HP is a machine and how I do something is none of its business. Epson and Canon don't presume to tell you how to do anything. They tell you what might damage the printer, but no other comments.

The one good thing about HP printers, the old ones conserved the ink. I just reactivated one after 2 years of non use, and the ink printed.

As for gray - I couldn't find too much on customization, I'm not gung ho on fancy, but I do like the menu bar in one place, and I like the maximize, minimize, close icons on the right. There were a few other annoyances, not major, but just enough, and I still wasn't sure about Skype working.
Ubuntu has a plain gray screen, I found the old Gnome 2 setting with no animations.
When I had Mint, I got rid of the Mint splash screen and went to plain gray. But it was easier to get other stuff into Mint than this version of Ubuntu. I had ESR going.

As to Slimboat, I use Boat here, wondered if they were related. I think it used to be Slimbrowser and was just changed to Slimboat. I have Iron rather than Chrome, and I've removed both Bing and Google as search engines. I use Start Page, Ixquick and Duck. I haven't updated FX on Ubuntu as I don't like the newer versions, and was trying to get ESR. TMobile informed me my browser was out of date. I update most of the other stuff, I just uncheck FX and Mozilla. I haven't used it for a while, anyway.

The only thing FX has going is tab permissions. I don't have to look at a page full of images if I don't want to. I can turn them off on the fly. The new Australis is going to look like Chrome, and I'd rather have the menu bars where I can see them. Pale Moon (based on Mozilla) doesn't do Linux or Mac.

BTW, you have to edit a lot of crap in About:config. Mozilla has hooked into some social sites, and if you don't like it, you edit it. I want a browser that does nothing but browse, if I want a link, I bookmark, I can use tabs or not and all the toolbars are available. I don't like the damn speed dials either. They take up too much real estate. I can read faster than I can recognize the icon and a line of text is faster.
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SlimBoat and Boat have no relation at all, apart from they're both Webkit based AFAIK. SlimBoat is American, Boat is not American..sure the name comes from Beijing Office Automation Tech, or something like that. SlimBrowser is really IE with a different interface, it uses IE's Trident engine.

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The only thing FX has going is tab permissions. I don't have to look at a page full of images if I don't want to. I can turn them off on the fly. The new Australis is going to look like Chrome, and I'd rather have the menu bars where I can see them. Pale Moon (based on Mozilla) doesn't do Linux or Mac.

BTW, you have to edit a lot of crap in About:config. Mozilla has hooked into some social sites, and if you don't like it, you edit it. I want a browser that does nothing but browse, if I want a link, I bookmark, I can use tabs or not and all the toolbars are available. I don't like the damn speed dials either. They take up too much real estate. I can read faster than I can recognize the icon and a line of text is faster.
I'm sure both SlimBoat(Ebay and Amazon affiliate) and Boat(ad-ware) are heavily hooked into some affiliate and ad stuff. Monetisation in return for giving you nice "free" browsers. So something to be aware of if privacy and tracking are of a concern to you. Plus Boat is almost certainly phoning home to Beijing as well. In the same manner that Dolphin does, also Chinese.
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I installed KOrganizer at some point, but don't actually use it. I just found out when I ran it that because I've disabled Akonadi server, it can't do its thing. So I can't test it for you. However, I verified that Kontact can be removed without affecting KOrganizer (at least in terms of being ABLE to remove it, without simultaneously removing KOrganizer--whether the latter will function properly with Kontact gone, I can't honestly say).

My best advice is to simply install KOrganizer and see what happens. If Kontact gets installed, too, and you don't want it, remove it and see if KOrganizer still functions.
Well, I was able to install Korganizer without installing Kontact, but something must be missing because I'm not able to setup Google Calendar using this website.

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I did install a minimum KDE, so something is probably missing. I didn't want to use Kwallet with it so I didn't choose it during setup of the Korganizer, either.

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I did install a minimum KDE, so something is probably missing. I didn't want to use Kwallet with it so I didn't choose it during setup of the Korganizer, either.
KWallet is used for quite a few things. I don't know why you don't want to use it, but without it you're probably limiting the number of apps you can run and/or their functionality.

Also, in the link above, the article is titled "Using Kontact with your Google Account," and the image on the page is indeed Kontact. So...help me out here! (Look, I got like zero sleep last night, I'm still working on my first cup of coffee, and I have to take my little princess, Joy Noelle, to the vet in a little while--and she knows something's up, so she's hiding.) I thought you didn't want Kontact, but it seems from that article that it's basically part of using KOrganizer to do what you want.
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KWallet is used for quite a few things. I don't know why you don't want to use it, but without it you're probably limiting the number of apps you can run and/or their functionality.

Also, in the link above, the article is titled "Using Kontact with your Google Account," and the image on the page is indeed Kontact. So...help me out here! (Look, I got like zero sleep last night, I'm still working on my first cup of coffee, and I have to take my little princess, Joy Noelle, to the vet in a little while--and she knows something's up, so she's hiding.) I thought you didn't want Kontact, but it seems from that article that it's basically part of using KOrganizer to do what you want.
The article is titled Kontact but does mention Korganizer and setting it up with Google Cal.

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I do not have the 'Calendar in Remote File' option. I'm sure if I need Kwallet but since you say it's a good thing to have, I'll include it.

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Adding Kwallet did make a difference. I now have Korganizer configured with Google Calendar. Now I need to figure out if they will sync with each other or if Korganizer will sync with GC!

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I note that SlimBoat is not exactly free of Facebook, and other social stuff. And it definitely has its own affiliate code for Ebay and Amazon. This is the default start page, and no attempt to localise itself for the country, I know Hulu is rather useless in the PRC.

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This is only peripherally related to Linux, since that's what I use. I have this weird, new, inexplicable issue with my mail client, SeaMonkey.

When I search within one specific folder, it yields no results. And what's crazier is that if I move some of the messages from that folder to another folder and then search in their new location, I STILL get no results.

I'm doing what I've done for DECADES (SeaMonkey was formerly the Mozilla Suite, which was Netscape Communicator before that), but definitely not getting the expected results!

Searching any other folders or messages, using the exact same search criteria, i.e., searching within the body of the messages in a folder, works.

The e-mails in question are plain text.

I'm stumped.
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Well, I finally figured out where to program the hotkeys to spin my cube around in Plasma:

System Settings, Shortcuts, Global Keyboard Shortcuts

KDE Component: KWin

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This is only peripherally related to Linux, since that's what I use. I have this weird, new, inexplicable issue with my mail client, SeaMonkey.

When I search within one specific folder, it yields no results. And what's crazier is that if I move some of the messages from that folder to another folder and then search in their new location, I STILL get no results.

I'm doing what I've done for DECADES (SeaMonkey was formerly the Mozilla Suite, which was Netscape Communicator before that), but definitely not getting the expected results!

Searching any other folders or messages, using the exact same search criteria, i.e., searching within the body of the messages in a folder, works.

The e-mails in question are plain text.

I'm stumped.
Could be a bug. Was SeaMonkey updated recently?
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Could be a bug. Was SeaMonkey updated recently?
Good thought, Mike. Perhaps the last update did it--and I know there's a new update that I haven't applied yet. Maybe that will undo it! If it is a bug, it's just very odd that it only applies to specific messages.
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We have a new one:
Zorin OS 7 Released - A Ultimate Linux Desktop with Windows 7 Feel

Look at the 6th item in the list. The repositories don't always have the programs and drivers I want. I'm not getting rid of a scanner and printer I like just for Ubuntu!

Any OS on my computer would look the same. Gray screen, no animations, no fancies.

BTW, I've seen rumors about Mozilla's support for Seamonkey. If you look at Mozillazine fora, they will have some info. I did like Netscape.
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I long ago lost track of all the Linux distributions out there. And now there's another one!

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Is that actually how you like it, or is it a resource thing, or...?

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I'm not sure what you mean. SeaMonkey *IS* Mozilla. It started as Netscape Communicator, then became the Mozilla Suite, then finally settled on being called SeaMonkey.
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I'm going to save myself some private messaging.

First, thanks to all who've sent reminders about the subforum, I didn't forget but was definitely about to.

I'll see what I do.
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I've seen complaints elsewhere about the lack of interest by Mozilla in Seamonkey. I usually do read the Mozilla section to see what kind of junk they are going to try to include next. I haven't used it. I prefer Thunderbird to built-in email. Opera had email, I didn't sign up for it, and got pestered about it every time I opened the browser at the end. When I did use Opera, I also used Eudora, not Operamail.
The new policy at Mozilla seems to do almost nightly updates. Every week another new version rolls out. Seamonkey doesn't do that, so maybe that's why some users feel ignored. I got tired of the nonsense, so I switched to Pale Moon which doesn't do Linux. ESR doesn't do nightly versions either. It's written mostly for businesses that need the interface more static and just security updated.

The desktop is gray by preference. I don't always maximize a browser and don't need a lot of extra color in the background. With the way Gimp opens, with separate screens, I'd switch to a neutral background to be able to focus on what I'm doing.
I tend to park stuff that I temporarily need on the desktop. I just shove the minimized browser out of the way. By doing that, at least I can read the browser and remember exactly what I was looking for on the desktop. Works well on the dual boot. I can download whatever I want in Ubuntu and shove it on the offline XP desktop for use. When I use XP, I file it.
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I've seen complaints elsewhere about the lack of interest by Mozilla in Seamonkey.
It's more a matter of Mozilla deciding to focus on SeaMonkey's children, Firefox and Thunderbird. Whereas SM is a suite that includes both a browser and e-mail client, Mozilla decided to spend their time promoting each unit separately (FF and TB). So the SeaMonkey project branched off, but is still accessible from Mozilla's web site.

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My SM is configured exactly as I want it, so I don't have any unwanted junk.

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I tend to park stuff that I temporarily need on the desktop. I just shove the minimized browser out of the way. By doing that, at least I can read the browser and remember exactly what I was looking for on the desktop.
What you're describing doesn't match up with my daily experience using KDE. Everything I have open is visible and accessible on that desktop's taskbar--and ONLY on that desktop's taskbar, by preference. If I wanted apps to be visible on desktops they're not running on, I could have it that way, but I don't like that. As for the GIMP and its multiple windows, that's no longer necessarily the case--they now have a single-window option. That was something I thought I'd really like...until it rolled out in beta and I didn't like it at all. *shrug* What can I say? I guess I had gotten used to its multiple windows by then, and the way I have them arranged by default works really well for me.
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I was unaware of the single-window option... I will have to try that out.
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Followup to my last post.

Here are some screenshots showing my desktops; select any to see them full size.

The first two illustrate doing nothing (it's just there to show what minimized apps look like in the taskbar) and hovering over one of the minimized apps (SeaMonkey).






This is another desktop, which has no apps running on it, hence nothing minimized in its taskbar:




Desktop cube just to show the multiple desktops:




I like absolutely NOTHING on my desktops, except pretty wallpaper. The way I have my KDE configured it's beautiful to look at, and everything is easily accessible, but there's no clutter. I hate clutter.
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Why would I put a download of an embroidery file on the taskbar? That's going to be shoved on a USB stick when I find one and transferred to the computer that runs the embroidery software. That's mostly what I have saved on the desktop. Stuff that belongs elsewhere and the computer isn't online so I can't use dropbox.
With the file sitting on the desktop, I remind myself to transfer it. If it goes in downloads, I'll forget.
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If this is right, then someone had better be doing some better user guides than what's available. Some of us have enough knowledge to want more than the standard "how do I get on Facebook" and are not techy enough to understand the language.

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The company I work for has a good two dozen machines with XP on them, and they are not likely to upgrade anytime soon.

Hell, I have two machines in my shop that run on old AT machines and DOS 6.0... no upgrades for the software running on them (nor the hardware they power), so I am stuck with them until the end of time.

As for user guides... good luck. I could write the type of guide you want, but who is going to pay me for it? There's a lot of time that goes into such a project, and I certainly haven't any to spare.

Nor would it be profitable enough for me to quit my day job.
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I feel like I'm missing something here. In my personal experience, just about everything I've ever used or had problems with could be looked up online. Most projects, such as the GIMP, have excellent, in-depth guides and tutorials. Even relatively obscure things, like the old Broadcom 43xx wireless issue on laptops, could be solved by looking online.

Again, I'm speaking strictly from *MY* experience.
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The company I work for has a good two dozen machines with XP on them, and they are not likely to upgrade anytime soon.

Hell, I have two machines in my shop that run on old AT machines and DOS 6.0... no upgrades for the software running on them (nor the hardware they power), so I am stuck with them until the end of time.
If one has legacy hardware and software that the manufacturer no longer supports or is out of business. You have to use it because for whatever specialised process or job it's doing no modern equivalent exists or is prohibitively expensive. You're very much down to supporting yourself and doing whatever you can to keep it going, like scavenging Ebay and rubbish dumps for old AT machines. Many businesses find themselves it that situation with old machinery and things.

Wouldn't surprise me if there was some factory somewhere doing some process with CP/M machines...LOL.
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Hell, I have two machines in my shop that run on old AT machines and DOS 6.0... no upgrades for the software running on them (nor the hardware they power), so I am stuck with them until the end of time.
But what happens when they die? I'd be looking at it like that, i.e., that I'd better get moving on a plan, now, to transition over to something else. I would not want to be in a position of being forced to take action as a result of a crash
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Yeh if those old AT computers are your livelihood. Better have some contingency and/or moving on plan.

It's not not just the hardware and software of course, it's the people that know how to maintain and service it. They move on, retire, pass away, etc. and don't pass the information on. Whatever old system or machine craps out and no one knows how to fix it.

Think NASA found themselves in that situation for a few of their old systems and had to get people back out of retirement, or at least ask them how to service and fix them.

Talking about legacy PC things. Our classroom whiteboard projectors all have analogue VGA plugs. Some new laptops don't come with VGA sockets, especially ultrabooks, Android tablets and laptops don't have VGA either, and nor do Macs and iPads. Often it's digital DVI and/or HDMI only now. And analogue VGA will eventually disappear completely from new PC hardware, like the way serial, parallel and PS/2 ports went.
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That also happened--and I mean really widespread--during the Y2K frenzy. Long retired COBOL programmers were hired out of the woodwork to bring old code up to snuff for 01/01/2000.

For any youngsters who don't know , back in the day files had to be as concise as possible, because storage and/or memory were at a huge premium. So programmers--never even THINKING that decades down the road this wouldn't work out so well--assigned only two spaces in programs, such as databases, for the year position of a date, i.e., MMDDYY. The YY was understood to be prefaced with 19, as in 1974 or 1987. That was all fine and dandy until 2000 came along! Hence the infamous Y2K issue, that kept many of us up for long hours leading up to New Year's Day.
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