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Old February 9th, 2013, 11:28 AM   #251 (permalink)
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Don't know if this has been asked but can I use gtalk in linux and how.

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If all you want to do is instant message with other google talk users, then there are clients that can IM with gtalk. It uses the xmpp protocol. I use Pidgin IM, it lets you IM with others also, such as yahoo, msn, etc.
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if you absolutely have your heart set on running the official (windows only) GTalk app, there is always wine
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Don't know if this has been asked but can I use gtalk in linux and how.
Pidgin is pretty easly to setup for Gtalk. Its what I use.
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Pidgin is pretty easly to setup for Gtalk. Its what I use.
Pidgin works for most things. We even have it communicating with the Microsoft Office 365 Lync service.
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if you absolutely have your heart set on running the official (windows only) GTalk app, there is always wine
Google Talk works fine in a browser, IM, voice and video, no need to install anything.
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Wine is for those who feel guilty and can't quite stop thinking the M$ way.
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Sometimes WINE is useful though, to be honest.

I pull rom.zips out of RUU's with WINE.

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I run a schematic creation program through wine... and the Netflix PPA.
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I run a schematic creation program through wine... and the Netflix PPA.
Why don't you contact the respective companies and tell them you're NOT using their products because they don't have a native Linux version? That's what I do. Netflix? Not for me! My Amazon Prime membership includes streaming TV shows/movies/etc., and it works on Linux. Anything that doesn't have a native Linux version, or otherwise work on Linux (such as browser based), I do without.

(Okay, I do have one--and only ONE--long standing exception: Roller Coaster Tycoon. I've been playing that via wine since the last millennium. But that's it!)
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Wine is necessary for a good portion of my PC Games, which as of yet have no such support for Linux and probably never will.
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Wine is for those who feel guilty and can't quite stop thinking the M$ way.
There's no need for name-calling or attacking people.

I wish that every application program had a native Linux version, but the fact of the matter is that isn't going to happen. When there is no other option but to use a Windows program, WINE is a great option to have.
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Why don't you contact the respective companies and tell them you're NOT using their products because they don't have a native Linux version? That's what I do.
How's that working out for you? How many companies have responded to the "vinegar" approach?

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I spent much of yesterday watching episodes of a TV show that used to air on CBS, but is now only available on ION, which is only available in SD where I live. The full-HD episodes are available on Netflix, which sure does appear to be running natively on Linux on my Netgear NeoTV box. Netflix is also the only place outside of notmeTunes where I can get early episodes of Top Gear (UK).

I'll leave the deprivation, hair shirts and self-flagellation to the Calvinists and rms...
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Why don't you contact the respective companies and tell them you're NOT using their products because they don't have a native Linux version? That's what I do. Netflix? Not for me! My Amazon Prime membership includes streaming TV shows/movies/etc., and it works on Linux. Anything that doesn't have a native Linux version, or otherwise work on Linux (such as browser based), I do without.

(Okay, I do have one--and only ONE--long standing exception: Roller Coaster Tycoon. I've been playing that via wine since the last millennium. But that's it!)
Way to hold to your principles, man.

Linux, for me, is about flexibility, capability, and budget. It is a tool, no more, no less. A very good tool, mind you, and powerful in many respects.

That doesn't mean that I will (or must) reject other tools just because I prefer this particular one.

That is like saying, "I absolutely refuse to eat pie, because I have a preference for chocolate cake." Sorry, but a slice of apple pie just goes better with vanilla ice cream...
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That doesn't mean that I will (or must) reject other tools just because I prefer this particular one.
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WINE has had its uses for me. Just like my uses, I'm sure WINE is useless to some people. It just depends on who you are

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Wine is necessary for a good portion of my PC Games, which as of yet have no such support for Linux and probably never will.
Have you tried DOSBox? That's excellent for making those old games work with any modern OS.
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First of all, that's WOman. Second of all, when I started playing Roller Coaster Tycoon, circa 1999 or 2000, Linux wasn't NEARLY as popular or well known as it is now. So complaining back THEN wouldn't make sense.

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Linux, for me, is about flexibility, capability, and budget. It is a tool, no more, no less. A very good tool, mind you, and powerful in many respects.

That doesn't mean that I will (or must) reject other tools just because I prefer this particular one.

That is like saying, "I absolutely refuse to eat pie, because I have a preference for chocolate cake." Sorry, but a slice of apple pie just goes better with vanilla ice cream...
Sorry, but that's a piss-poor analogy. For me, it's not ONLY that Linux is vastly superior to m$ products in every conceivable way, such as security, stability, customization, power, etc., but there's also the principle involved of not supporting a company whose shady, often illegal, business practices got them where they are. Or should I say WERE. I can only imagine the anguish in Redmond as Linux has overtaken the world. You do use Android, right? So a better analogy would be, "I'd love a slice of apple pie with vanilla ice cream on top, rather than my usual chocolate cake. However, the apple pie is made in a third-world sweatshop where people work 15 hour days for pennies, and on principle I can't support that. So I'll stick with the chocolate cake made in the US for living wages."
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Why don't you contact the respective companies and tell them you're NOT using their products because they don't have a native Linux version? That's what I do. Netflix? Not for me! My Amazon Prime membership includes streaming TV shows/movies/etc., and it works on Linux. Anything that doesn't have a native Linux version, or otherwise work on Linux (such as browser based), I do without.
I have to agree with Moody here. I have used Wine in the past, and also used Codeweavers Crossover, which offer better support then Wine. But as time went on I decided against running Windows apps inside Linux. I know there are some that may need to use Windows programs for business purposes but you do take the chance of making your linux system unstable. If they do not make a native linux program, then I do without. I've learned to accept that!
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Windows is a tool, and sometimes a very useful, if flawed, one. I'm primarily a Linux user but sometimes it's just better from a compatibility viewpoint to use PowerPoint rather than Libre Office Impress. And I really don't like Wine. (except for a nice Sangiovese or Primitivo).
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How's that working out for you? How many companies have responded to the "vinegar" approach?
Very well, thank you! Remember when web sites REQUIRED Internet ExploDer in order to access them? Yeah, that's a foggy memory for me, too, now that it's ancient history--because *I* and other like-minded people COMPLAINED, and told those companies we wouldn't do business with them until they were accessible by Linux users. There aren't any windows-based applications I need/want/care about, so I haven't complained about software, per se, in a long time. Only recently, and as a result of reading a question here about Netflix, did I pull out my old "as long as you're not supporting Linux I won't be a customer" routine.

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I spent much of yesterday watching episodes of a TV show that used to air on CBS, but is now only available on ION, which is only available in SD where I live. The full-HD episodes are available on Netflix, which sure does appear to be running natively on Linux on my Netgear NeoTV box. Netflix is also the only place outside of notmeTunes where I can get early episodes of Top Gear (UK).
How early? I see old episodes of Top Gear all the time on BBC America.

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Dosbox only runs old DOS games MikeDT, such as Super Solvers and Oregon Trail, or more later 1990s incarnations such as Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe or Doom. however i was specifically speaking of Star Trek Online and Flight Simulator X, which have no Linux version or comparable game of the same calibre

I have seen some impressive screencaps of X-Plane, a Linux copy of FSX, but am unsure if it is worth spending $10 on given that Flightgear never could run properly on any of my computers. even the new Toshiba wouldn't load it--it got to 'loading scenery' then silent-crashed to desktop. there is this sense of joy i get from faking 747 engine failures/fires and hearing the GPWS callouts during the simulated crash scene....and i miss it immensely. try installing FSX-Passengers and then recreating the conditions in the movie Flight and it really becomes fun!
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Dosbox only runs old DOS games MikeDT, such as Super Solvers and Oregon Trail, or more later 1990s incarnations such as Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe or Doom.
Oh yeh, Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe that was awesome.

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however i was specifically speaking of Star Trek Online and Flight Simulator X, which have no Linux version or comparable game of the same calibre
Now I can't play Star Trek On-line at all....

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That's all I get. Is it United States only or something? And then "CBS Studios Inc.", the MPAA, the RIAA, Hollywood, etc are wondering why people are stealing their stuff.
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have you tried the fakeout by setting your region to USA? i have gotten around region blocks that way for a long time

BTW just got FSX running. runs quite well in fact!
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Second of all, when I started playing Roller Coaster Tycoon, circa 1999 or 2000, Linux wasn't NEARLY as popular or well known as it is now. So complaining back THEN wouldn't make sense.
So, you grandfathered your one favorite app in...

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Sorry, but that's a piss-poor analogy.
Wow... I think this is the very first time that anyone has ever told me that.

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For me, it's not ONLY that Linux is vastly superior to m$ products in every conceivable way, such as security, stability, customization, power, etc., but there's also the principle involved of not supporting a company whose shady, often illegal, business practices got them where they are.
As opposed to whom? Do you know of a computer hardware company that hasn't done the same? What are you running your precious Linux on?

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Or should I say WERE. I can only imagine the anguish in Redmond as Linux has overtaken the world.
Yeah... no. Unless Linux is suddenly the overwhelming OS of choice in the corporate world, then I seriously doubt Redmond is sweating much at all.

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You do use Android, right? So a better analogy would be, "I'd love a slice of apple pie with vanilla ice cream on top, rather than my usual chocolate cake. However, the apple pie is made in a third-world sweatshop where people work 15 hour days for pennies, and on principle I can't support that. So I'll stick with the chocolate cake made in the US for living wages."
Again, what hardware are you using?

Last I heard, Microsoft does most of their work here in the good old US of A. On top of that, do any coders really work for pennies? I always thought they worked for donuts and caffeine.

Now Linux, on the other hand... born in Finland. Then again, that is only the kernel. Almost everything else in your distribution is GNU... at least most of that is American.

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Remember when web sites REQUIRED Internet ExploDer in order to access them? Yeah, that's a foggy memory for me, too, now that it's ancient history--because *I* and other like-minded people COMPLAINED, and told those companies we wouldn't do business with them until they were accessible by Linux users. There aren't any windows-based applications I need/want/care about, so I haven't complained about software, per se, in a long time. Only recently, and as a result of reading a question here about Netflix, did I pull out my old "as long as you're not supporting Linux I won't be a customer" routine.
But... I thought you don't need/want/care about Netflix?

Now, try this one for size-- Apple was born here in the US. In a garage, of all places. It was a giant-killer-- the Apple IIe took on the behemoth IBM. They didn't win. Nor did they lose... they just were. A niche product that invested heavily in the nation's youth for decades, until finally they came out with a hit. Then another. And a third.

Now Apple is the giant. Being challenged by whom? Linux? Only a Linux variant being used (exploited) by another giant. Where's Microsoft? In nearly every corporate and government office. Do they care about the average consumer? Only in that they want to make sure those office and government workers have the software they need to do their work at home.

Yes... Apple and Microsoft-- two sides of the same coin, living an incestuous relationship where they feed off each other, now doing the same with Linux. You do know that Microsoft was the 17th largest contributor to Linux in 2011, right?
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Sorry, @Dngrsone, that you didn't understand that my analogy was to illustrate basing decisions on principle, and instead took it to NOT be an analogy, but a statement of fact that m$ pays slave labor to its employees.

Sorry, too, that you think other companies--according to you, the computer hardware companies I use--have been sued for illegal business practices like m$ has. If you'd like to list them, feel free! Last I heard, m$ was in a class of its own when it comes to anti-trust litigation, illegal tactics to create a monopoly, having the Department of Justice involved, etc.

And, yes, m$ is indeed worried--very worried. And they should be. Their bloated, overpriced, inferior products aren't selling, while LINUX-based Android products are being activated at an astonishing rate--MUCH, much higher than anything m$ has ever seen in its entire history. The fact that m$ is now contributing to Linux and talking about offering Linux versions of its software is pretty good proof that they're scared. They want in before it's irrevocably too late.
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Do you know what Microsoft does to companies that scare them? They buy them.

Android is not a desktop OS. Microsoft is going after the tablet market, because they know the desktop is beginning to decline.

In about ten years the desktop will be a niche product. Everything will be done on some sort of touchscreen device, or some yet to be invented interface. MS will be there, you can count on it.

As for the hardware companies, Intel has been slapped with all kinds of antitrust litigation, and they have gone the rounds with AMD, Motorola, et al just like Apple and Samsung are doing now. AMD and Intel are tied to each other just like Microsoft and Apple are.

Oh, and everyone's favorite Chinese corporation, Foxconn, has been building motherboards for all the big desktop computer players for decades...

I tire of this. I like Linux; but I am old enough to appreciate that there is a place and time when Windows is necessary.

You don't have to like it. I don't have to care; and I don't.
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i like Linux and run it on my computers, but that does not make me a linux fanboy either. fanboys, be them MS, Linux, or Apple, are all alike. they still cling to brand loyalty that has been obsolete since everything went overseas. buying a Curtis-Mathes television set may have had merit back in the '80s but today every brand is exactly alike. it does not matter what name or label is slapped onto them anymore--ever hear of 'badge engineering?'

A Linux fanboy(or girl) so anti-MS that they choose to use watered down versions of the same software that is used in Windows but in a native GNU version may be avoiding their own worst enemy. and all the power to them if they like that. but to me a watered down app, no matter how stable and functional, is a watered down app. if i can find an open-sourced means of making any app run in Linux, hey, it just makes it even better. who cares what OS it was designed to run on? Wine has had the hatred of the GNU people for some time, but guess what? it's NOT WINDOWS! so why the hate? they're an open sourced compatibility layer. just because it runs Windows programs does not make it Windows.

this attitude that Android/Linux is better than everyone else and that everyone should convert and run only that system really irks me. why should i lose my liberty to choose what i want on my own machine? so Microsoft makes Flight Simulator X. so what? Flightgear and X-plane are watered down half-functional copies that cannot even run any add-ons, mods or hacks the way FSX can. why would i give up one of the best sims to date for some watered down version? why should i? it's my computer.

Honestly i never did get why it is such a problem that someone chooses MS products over Linux or Apple products over Android. but some 'fandroids' get so tempermental should someone choose something other than their favorite device. who died and made you ruler of everyone's IT preferences?
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Doesn't MS have a huge subsidiary in Hyderabad, India? The devs there probably do work for pennies, or rather rupees and curry and tea. Also allows MS to develop software 24 hours a day, while MS Redmond is sleeping, MS Hyderabad is busy coding.
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Let us keep focus here. This is not a M$ vs Linux thread. There are plenty of those around.

So getting back on track has anyone besides sapatech run Mageia 3? I'm currently running it with KDE and like it so far. Its very smooth.
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Much as I appreciate the power and flexibility of KDE, I just don't like the interface... I wish there was a gnome setup that had the power of the KDE desktop.

I am trying Mint 14 out right now (I've borked my Ubuntu 12.04 networking), but I may lay Unity over it. My printer doesn't want to work in Mint, though.
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i like Linux and run it on my computers, but that does not make me a linux fanboy either. fanboys, be them MS, Linux, or Apple, are all alike. they still cling to brand loyalty that has been obsolete since everything went overseas. buying a Curtis-Mathes television set may have had merit back in the '80s but today every brand is exactly alike. it does not matter what name or label is slapped onto them anymore--ever hear of 'badge engineering?'

A Linux fanboy(or girl) so anti-MS that they choose to use watered down versions of the same software that is used in Windows but in a native GNU version may be avoiding their own worst enemy. and all the power to them if they like that. but to me a watered down app, no matter how stable and functional, is a watered down app. if i can find an open-sourced means of making any app run in Linux, hey, it just makes it even better. who cares what OS it was designed to run on? Wine has had the hatred of the GNU people for some time, but guess what? it's NOT WINDOWS! so why the hate? they're an open sourced compatibility layer. just because it runs Windows programs does not make it Windows.

this attitude that Android/Linux is better than everyone else and that everyone should convert and run only that system really irks me. why should i lose my liberty to choose what i want on my own machine? so Microsoft makes Flight Simulator X. so what? Flightgear and X-plane are watered down half-functional copies that cannot even run any add-ons, mods or hacks the way FSX can. why would i give up one of the best sims to date for some watered down version? why should i? it's my computer.

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So getting back on track has anyone besides sapatech run Mageia 3? I'm currently running it with KDE and like it so far. Its very smooth.
I just added a minimum KDE to mine and I have to say it seems to run much better then Gnome 3. I guess because Mga is a KDE distro.

One thing about Linux that I like, it's a free distro, as in freedom. I expect its shortcomings. Now when it comes to Windows & Apple, if one pay good money for it, then the shortcomings it have shouldn't be. Are do those companies do certain things to their OS to keep you locked in? I've seen linux offer some good programs or able to do certain tasks that these billion dollar companies can't or won't offer.
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What don't you like about it? As I've explained to others, if you REALLY explore its myriad of settings and options, it can look like, or act like, or be like, whatever YOU want. So it's hard for me to understand what the problem is.

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Playing RCT via wine does not involve windows in any way, shape, or form. I do not have windows, don't have access to windows, don't run windows in a virtual environment...NOTHING. You're misunderstanding using wine to run a windows-based program with windows being NECESSARY. It is not.

Now that you see the difference, how about dropping this?
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Sometimes, when I decide to try a new distro, I choose "Live mode" and whatnot. It loads and decompresses the kernel..then it goes to start and bam: rainbow pixels all over the screen. Can't see a damn thing.

Not sure if its relevant or not, but the last one I tried was a debian based distro, called Parsix.
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Sometimes, when I decide to try a new distro, I choose "Live mode" and whatnot. It loads and decompresses the kernel..then it goes to start and bam: rainbow pixels all over the screen. Can't see a damn thing.

Not sure if its relevant or not, but the last one I tried was a debian based distro, called Parsix.
More likely a video issue. It may depend which video card/drivers it uses or need. During the boot process, most distros offer different video boot options, usually shown at the bottom of the screen right before pressing the Enter key to start the boot up.
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More likely a video issue. It may depend which video card/drivers it uses or need. During the boot process, most distros offer different video boot options, usually shown at the bottom of the screen right before pressing the Enter key to start the boot up.
Hrm...unetbootin didn't give me any options other than "Default" I believe. Perhaps I'll use dd and see that way. Usually dd is a bit better in that regard...not that unetbootin is bad, I just have better luck with dd
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Hmmm, I did assume you were using a cd/dvd disc. I've never used unetbootin before so not sure if it offers options or not. Check on Ubuntu forums for similar issue as yours.
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Whoops, I should have specified. I'll have to see what I can find on Ubuntu forums/Linux forms later.
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have you tried the fakeout by setting your region to USA? i have gotten around region blocks that way for a long time

BTW just got FSX running. runs quite well in fact!
How difficult was it to set up? I have it but it's not set up and I'm kinda interested in finding out
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I messed up my networking settings trying to get an ad hoc session set up to connect my phone to the laptop. I thought I had reversed everything, but something isn't right. My wifi will work for a while at home, but it will drop offline and I will have to reboot the machine in order to get back online.

The laptop won't even connect to the wifi network at the college (then again, their certificates are screwed up all kinds of special).

If there is a way to reset my network stuff back to defaults without having to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 desktop 64-bit; I'd be forever grateful to learn how to do it.
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the instructions were on the Wine home page for FSX. but basically, you copy both DVDs to a home folder (i named it 'FSX') and when it asks you to skip or overwrite existing files on DVD #2, just say skip all or skip and check the spot to 'use the same decision'. then leave DVD #2 in the drive. then just run setup from the folder you made, wait and wait (it hangs a lot during install) then it should auto-launch. for some reason product activation fails so you're stuck in trial mode (the game times out after 30 minutes) but if you save your flights you can continue where you left off. i tried phone support but it just spits out an error code when they give me my confirmation ID. i do not think Wine supports the method of activation for some reason. so far that is the only downside. graphics performance is pretty decent, it identified my ATI Radeon series but not sure if that was Wine or if FSX has direct hardware access. it does perform better than Star Trek Online.


FYI you also need Internet Explorer 8 too. the launcher uses it to display parts of the UI. without it will simply crash. with older copies (such as IE 7) it throws an infinite loop of script errors until the computer runs out of RAM or you force close Wine from another terminal (pkill exe)
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Actually I don't. And it's not due to foggy memory either.

I recall quite clearly the bad old days when Netscape used lots of proprietary tags that weren't W3 approved. I recall Spyglass/Microsoft and other players like AOL picking up this bad habit, but it's generally agreed that Netscape was the worst offender. Even to this day, no browser passes the Acid test 100% on everything.

If you're referring to the brief period when some websites tried to use CaptiveX objects, I'd have to say that its inability to function properly even under ideal circumstances had more to do with its demise than anything else.

To think that in some alternate universe, there is no such thing as Java, Miguel de Icaza is a Microsoft Fellow and IE for UNIX destroyed Netscape before Gecko was born thanks to MS Mono!

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Starting with Series 2, when James May returned to complete the trio that we know and love.

BBCA started airing the "lost episodes" back when the only HD video sources I had were OTA and DISH. The DISH DVR doesn't allow saving shows as files, so I had to wait until the local cable company finally obeyed the law and hooked my TiVos up to their digital cable service. (Refusing to do business with them only hurt me, BTW.) I'm still missing one episode each from Series 2 and 3 after roughly a year of manually searching for and recording the episodes that I can't get through Amazon. Just as well I suppose, since the older episodes have been recently remastered with the shot-on-film segments appearing in full-HD resolution on BBCAHD.
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That's all I get. Is it United States only or something? And then "CBS Studios Inc.", the MPAA, the RIAA, Hollywood, etc are wondering why people are stealing their stuff.
Yes, that's pretty much it. It dates all the way back to the days when a very few wealthy people had C-band satellite dishes to watch network TV programming (which was all sent in the clear back then) before the local stations aired the shows. Of course it never dawned on them that all of the low-paid TV station employees who regularly used our stations' satellite equipment for personal viewing and (naturally) had access to broadcast quality recording equipment might be the bigger threat to their precious programming!

By the time that Ku-band home satellite service commenced, there were international treaties in place that prohibited viewing programming that isn't intended to be seen in your country. That carried over to DVD regions, and is now enforced through geolocation software, which isn't working too well according to recent reports.
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I messed up my networking settings trying to get an ad hoc session set up to connect my phone to the laptop. I thought I had reversed everything, but something isn't right. My wifi will work for a while at home, but it will drop offline and I will have to reboot the machine in order to get back online.

The laptop won't even connect to the wifi network at the college (then again, their certificates are screwed up all kinds of special).

If there is a way to reset my network stuff back to defaults without having to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 desktop 64-bit; I'd be forever grateful to learn how to do it.
You might want to brush up on your find and grep skills, and scour your /etc directory (and subdirectories) for errant network device config files. It may be as simple as restoring the `.old' versions of these files. If you're running a network configuration daemon, you'll want to disable it until you get everything sorted.
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i think Star Trek Online's region block is done for an entirely different reason than the DVD and other blocks. they had some account merger thing going on that made those countries unable to access the service..it's not the same as 'this isn't allowed in your country because you suck' like other region blocks.
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