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Old January 26th, 2013, 01:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Computer having problems with music playback: any suggestions?

I have an older computer, and any music I play has problems.
HP Pavillion 521n
AMD AthlonXP 1600+ @ 1.4 Ghz
1 Gb RAM @ 100/130 Mhz
XP Pro SP3

The music will sound scratchy and skip, stutter, or drag. I thought it was a bad CD, but:
-- all my CDs act the same
-- they act the same in two different drives
-- mp3s originally on another computer and transferred to this one are also showing the same symptoms.
-- same problems both with Windows Media Player 11.0 and VLC 1.1.11.

So now I'm thinking either my processor can't handle msic playback, or maybe I need to adjust a buffer setting?

Any suggestions?
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Old January 26th, 2013, 04:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome, EdNerd!

What you have is mighty close to the computer that I built for my mother several years ago, and replaced with something a bit newer this last Thanksgiving weekend. Roughly the same CPU and RAM, and also running XP.

IIRC it started off with 256M of RAM, and was at 1G when it was replaced. Most of the time it was at 512M, which was enough at the time to run Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird, and Word 2000, according to Process Explorer. As Mozilla products got more porky, more and more RAM was needed to stave off paging. Although my mom wasn't much for multimedia, it could play audio quite well, and lo-res video if need be.

My first question would be about the CD drive, but it looks like you have that covered. You might want to try unplugging it altogether for a while to see if that makes a difference, but that's a long shot. Now that I think of it, if every component is old, something like a keyboard with a stuck key might be sending interrupts and slowing down the system.

The next question is what kind of software is running hidden in the background on your machine, that might slow things down? When I built my mom's old system, I took care to turn off every unneeded Windows service, application pre-loader and anything else that used up system resources unnecessarily. Doing stuff like this is second nature for me after 15 years doing corporate IT, and having to breathe new life into old computers. It might not be as easy for you.

Is the sound card built into the motherboard, or in a separate card? Now would be a pretty good time to pull all of the expansion cards, clean the contacts on the cards and blow out any junk in the slots. IIRC some sound cards used to offload much of their function onto the computer CPU, which not only uses up more system CPU and RAM, but also relies on buggy drivers that haven't been maintained for a long time. If you can, see what kind of sound hardware you have. A new $10 sound card might make all the difference. (Don't forget to disable all onboard sound/modem hardware before you try a new or new/old sound card.)

Beyond that...If you haven't reinstalled Windows from bare metal, now might be time to refresh your system. IME a bare metal reinstall is the single best way to refresh a tired old PC. If that doesn't work, it may be time to retire the old hardware. If you have any experience with Linux (and even if you don't) you might use it with Linux. There are plenty of Linux distributions that are designed to make the most out of an old PC.
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Ah yes! I just popped up sysconfig and StartUp is choking this poor machine! I turned off almost everything.

And there's a whole lot of services, too. Most are MS. Is there a list of what service connects to what machine need, so I know what I can turn off? For instance, this thing will never connect to the internet, so I don't need anything touching email, internet or networking services, firewall, etc. Or do I?

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I used to have a list of NT services that I used as a reference ages ago. I wish I could find it. I'll keep looking...

If you connect to other computers on a LAN, you'll need to have Windows Networking and related services like "Computer Browser" and "Workstation" installed and running. If you're doing no networking at all, you can disable lots of stuff. I don't have XP running anywhere, but you can use the Dependencies tab to back-track some of them. Just don't touch RPC whatever you do!
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I found this:
Black Viper’s Windows XP x86 (32-bit) Service Pack 3 Service Configurations | Black Viper | www.blackviper.com

I followed most of the recommendations to Disable or Manual a buncha stuff.

But it doesn't help with the CD playback. Still skips and stutters.

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I don't know how committed you are to sticking with windows, but if you're open to dumping windows I can help!

Install a lightweight Linux, one that works well on older hardware, and you should be good to go. I resurrected my 6-year-old HP dv6000 laptop, which I had upgraded its Kubuntu version on one too many times, by installing Bodhi Linux. Its performance is now like it's brand new again.
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I found this:
Black Viper’s Windows XP x86 (32-bit) Service Pack 3 Service Configurations | Black Viper | www.blackviper.com

I followed most of the recommendations to Disable or Manual a buncha stuff.

But it doesn't help with the CD playback. Still skips and stutters.
That looks like a good guide! I bookmarked it for myself.

If there's nothing obviously wrong at this point, like CPU and/or RAM usage pinned at 100%, it could be a hardware problem. If it is, it may or may not be worth fixing. You might want to think about how much more time and effort you want to spend on fixing this. Take it from me, it is not a good feeling when you've racked your brain and pulled out your hair for weeks, and end up tossing the whole thing in the end.

I'd try swapping in a "known good" sound card before quitting. You can buy one for less than $20 at Best Buy, and it can be returned if it doesn't help. Just be nice about keeping everything neat and clean.
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I don't know how committed you are to sticking with windows, but if you're open to dumping windows I can help!

Install a lightweight Linux, one that works well on older hardware, and you should be good to go. I resurrected my 6-year-old HP dv6000 laptop, which I had upgraded its Kubuntu version on one too many times, by installing Bodhi Linux. Its performance is now like it's brand new again.
That just gave me an idea. Boot a live Linux environment (which can be done with the Bodhi disc) and see if it's a problem while running Linux. If it is, you know for sure that it's a software problem, and a bare metal install is the best solution.
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