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Old May 6th, 2010, 03:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Phandroid.com Folding@home Official Team Stats Page

While I am at it, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this team effort by donating their unused processor cycles and as well as posting and helping out in this very thread.



So what's the actual purpose of the folding team? Well it's not about folding laundry! Stanford University runs a distributed computing program called Folding@home and its goal is to understand protein folding, misfolding, and related diseases. That last part, related diseases, is what this is really all about; it's what nearly 3,000,000 processors are doing and that is helping to find cures to various forms of cancer.

From the Folding@Home home page:

"Proteins are biology's workhorses- its "nanomachines." Proteins help your body break down food into energy, regulate your moods, and fight disease. Before proteins can carry out these important functions, they assemble themselves, or "fold." While protein folding is critical and fundamental to virtually all of biology much of the process remains a mystery.
When proteins do not fold correctly (misfolding), there can be serious health consequences, including many well known diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, AIDS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many cancers.
If we better understand protein misfolding we can design drugs and therapies to combat these illnesses."

How does the Phandroid Folding team work? Basically you download a small program or client that once installed will utilize your processor’s ‘unused’ cycles to work on folding. Unused cycles? Simply put, it is the portion of you processor that isn’t doing any work, so if it’s running at 80% while you game, the other 20% goes to folding. It does this on the fly and will not interfere with your gaming or other computer usage. The clients run either in the background or as a screen saver, only folding when the computer is idle.



What are the requirements to run it? Whatever processor you use needs to be able to complete the work units on time which can usually be done on a processor running at 1GHz or faster. Even better are the new generation of graphics cards which support CUDA (Nvidia) or OpenCL (AMD) parallel computing models. The faster your machine is, the better. You will score more points and help our team climb up to the top ranks.

You can download the client here.

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Phandroid.com Folding@home team summary (ExtremeOverclocking.com)


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Wow, this sounds like a really good cause. It has convinced me to go onto my computer and run the program. Count me in.
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Wow, this sounds like a really good cause. It has convinced me to go onto my computer and run the program. Count me in.
Awesome! Welcome to the team.
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Stuck.

I might well join up once my new GPU arrives and is installed.
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Great! We need all the help we can get. I see many people here have very powerful rigs. That would be great to have all of them on the team.
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I was trying to help, just installed and when running got this error.

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I was trying to help, just installed and when running got this error.

What are your specs?
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Nice, what is the graphics card you are using?
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Just added to previous post
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Alright. Hopefully this will help you:

Folding@home has run into a serious error running the core. and will shutdown - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net
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Got a new error now

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Ah, okay. You need to download and install the latest drivers with CUDA.

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Ah, okay. You need to download and install the latest drivers with CUDA.

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Downloading now
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Okay good. That should do the trick.
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Okay good. That should do the trick.

No this really didnt help, now everytime i load a new webpage the screen flickers black
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That's strange.. Did you restart your computer after the installation?
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Whoa... I did a Google search and that seems to be a common problem with GeForce 9500 GPUs...

I'll keep searching for a solution. Hold on.
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iv just removed all the new software, uninstalled my gfx card drivers, just re downloading the old driver
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Alright. You should try installing the stand-alone CUDA package once you've reverted back to your old drivers.

http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/3_0/drivers/devdriver_3.0_winvista-win7_32_197.13_general.exe
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Now up and running on my new HD 5850. I've lowered the CPU usage nicely, and once I'm satisfied that it's still stable I may add another client to make use of the Phenom X4.
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Now up and running on my new HD 5850. I've lowered the CPU usage nicely, and once I'm satisfied that it's still stable I may add another client to make use of the Phenom X4.
Nice! I hear that card will get you nearly 5,000 PPD (points per day)! So far, you are the most powerful member on the team. Welcome aboard.
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Hopefully you'll notice them in the team stats soon, although I'm not running 24/7 yet. Still tweaking.....
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Awesome. I'm gonna fire up my PS3 and start folding with that as well.
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Hopefully you'll notice them in the team stats soon, although I'm not running 24/7 yet. Still tweaking.....
Damn, 5 work units already. You're fast.

I'm Rikusaki by the way. I've been folding for a very long time, but you'll catch up .
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Damn, 5 work units already. You're fast.
Not me, the GPU is doing all the work. I might tinker with the SMP client this evening and see if I can get it doing something useful too.

Waaaaay back in the mists of time (when a 400MHz Pentium II was cutting-edge!) I was part of a team doing something similar to crack RC5 encryption. No GPU cleints back then - it was all done on single-core CPUs, apart from a few guys who co-opted SMP servers at their work for illicit overnight runs.
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I installed and configured the SMP client this evening and it's currently running through its first data set. With all four CPU cores @ 100% utilisation the system is still perfectly usable and CPU temp has only risen 7C above idle level. I'll run the GPU client alongside it overnight and look at the logs in the morning to see how they play together... may have to back off the "CPU Usage" slightly on the SMP client to avoid throttling the GPU one.

Already thinking about resurrecting my old Athlon X2 purely as a folding rig. We might get a few weeks work out of my 8800GT GPU before it finally croaks (and I can contact BFG about a warranty replacement!)
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I installed and configured the SMP client this evening and it's currently running through its first data set. With all four CPU cores @ 100% utilisation the system is still perfectly usable and CPU temp has only risen 7C above idle level. I'll run the GPU client alongside it overnight and look at the logs in the morning to see how they play together... may have to back off the "CPU Usage" slightly on the SMP client to avoid throttling the GPU one.

Already thinking about resurrecting my old Athlon X2 purely as a folding rig. We might get a few weeks work out of my 8800GT GPU before it finally croaks (and I can contact BFG about a warranty replacement!)
Haha, nice! I'm actually using a factory overclocked version of the 8800 GTS-512. Nvidia cards seem to do better at folding because of CUDA. That 8800 would be a great addition to the team.

I might fire up an SMP client as well. I have a Q6600 overclocked @ 3.4Ghz.
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I'm actually using a factory overclocked version of the 8800 GTS-512.
Those puppies were built for clocking - mine is an OC2 variant from BFG.

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I think the latest ATI client uses DirectCompute but that little 8800 was a cracking video transcoder using CUDA routines in MediaCoder.

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It's a blast-from-the-past.... CLI config etc but a cinch to install thanks to the clear guide available on the F@H site. Be aware though that it uses "big" WUs as the default and mine is currently churning through 500k steps!
1h20m in and it's at 14% completion.....
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It's a blast-from-the-past.... CLI config etc but a cinch to install thanks to the clear guide available on the F@H site. Be aware though that it uses "big" WUs as the default and mine is currently churning through 500k steps!
1h20m in and it's at 14% completion.....
Yeah.. I have another old 8800 GTS 320.. Might stick that in one of my older builds and use it just purely for folding.
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What the.... You jumped from 8 to 132 WUs overnight?! How did you do that? That's insane!
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I am going to try to get on with my PS3 tonight. I am copying this info and hope to give it a go.
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What the.... You jumped from 8 to 132 WUs overnight?! How did you do that? That's insane!
It's bogus - notice how the points didn't increase much?

Each run with the SMP client aborted with an EUE and took the core with it, which also messed up the GPU client. So I installed the uniprocessor CPU client hoping that would be more reliable. Guess what....? Every run (on a single CPU core) also threw up EUEs but some sort of data was returned each time. I think that's what has inflated the WU count.

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It's bogus - notice how the points didn't increase much?

Each run with the SMP client aborted with an EUE and took the core with it, which also messed up the GPU client. So I installed the uniprocessor CPU client hoping that would be more reliable. Guess what....? Every run (on a single CPU core) also threw up EUEs but some sort of data was returned each time. I think that's what has inflated the WU count.

p.s. found the ideal folding rig last night. Check this bad boy out!
Oh, lol.

Also, the link you gave me doesn't work.

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Ah, must be UK-specific or sommit. It's a Cray CX1-iWS with:

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Yup, that's right.... 24 cores of Xeon goodness! Yours for only $55k!
Wow.... I bet that rig would put us in the top ten in no time!
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Lol, oh man.. You're already at 400 work units?
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Now you're over 800! Damn.
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Now you're over 800! Damn.
Nope, now 1100+....

In addition to the GPU client I had three standard systray clients running overnight, two on the GROMACS core (one using >10MB work assignments and one not) and another on the ProtoMol core (using -advmethods). One of the GROMACS projects involved very unstable models and most were EUE'd within a few seconds of the simulation starting. Not very productive points-wise but hopefully will assist the boffins with their work.
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In addition to the GPU client I had three standard systray clients running overnight, two on the GROMACS core (one using >10MB work assignments and one not) and another on the ProtoMol core (using -advmethods). One of the GROMACS projects involved very unstable models and most were EUE'd within a few seconds of the simulation starting. Not very productive points-wise but hopefully will assist the boffins with their work.
Nice! Keep it up. You're doing great. Our team moved up 10 positions in the last 7 days. Let's break into the top 1,000!
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The 8800GT is a no-goer I'm afraid. It isn't able to run any projects for more than a few minutes before the client shuts down with "NANs detected" errors. Furmark and OCCT's DirectX stabilty test don't show any artifacts or failures and F@H doesn't stress it anything like those two, and it's even behaving from a cold boot, which is a bit annoying as I need it to be consistently failing to RMA it. Plus it would have added another few thousand points to the team.
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The 8800GT is a no-goer I'm afraid. It isn't able to run any projects for more than a few minutes before the client shuts down with "NANs detected" errors. Furmark and OCCT's DirectX stabilty test don't show any artifacts or failures and F@H doesn't stress it anything like those two, and it's even behaving from a cold boot, which is a bit annoying as I need it to be consistently failing to RMA it. Plus it would have added another few thousand points to the team.

Is it the same work unit failing over and over? If so, delete the queue.dat, work folder, unitinfo.txt and that should make it download a different WU.
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Nope, I think there's simply a minor problem that only becomes major when folding. Maybe failing VRAM, maybe shaders on the way out, maybe it just hates me.... I'll maybe leave it on the bench rig running Furmark overnight and see if I can kill it.
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Nope, I think there's simply a minor problem that only becomes major when folding. Maybe failing VRAM, maybe shaders on the way out, maybe it just hates me.... I'll maybe leave it on the bench rig running Furmark overnight and see if I can kill it.
Lol. Good luck.
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Hmm, Lady Luck is a fickle mistress....

The cursed card survived 7.5hrs of Furmark unscathed, and is currently 52% through a GROGPU2 wu. If it's developed the 'bad solder' problem that plagued the 8xxx-series then perhaps keeping it working hard will stop the joints cracking?

Some bad news: the a3 core crashed ("program has stopped working" msg from Win7) just after I woke up this morning and I lost a 2500pt wu - checkpoint didn't work for some reason.

update: woohoo, I think it's finally died!
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update: woohoo, I think it's finally died!
Aw, that sucks.

On the bright side, out team is moving up quite nicely. We should push hard to break into the top 1,000!
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Aw, that sucks.
Nononono, it's good.... means I can get it RMA'd. If I'm lucky I may get a 260GTX in exchange, depending on what stock BFG have left.

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Oooh, lol. That's cool! A GTX260 would be awesome. That card is great at folding.

It's 65% faster than a 9600 GT (Don't know why it says "Pro" instead of "GT")


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It's a crapshoot what actually arrives back, and won't be helped by BFG's announcement that they're ceasing graphics card production completely. I might be 'unlucky' and get a borked 8800GT back if they find one in a dusty cupboard, of course. A friend played GPU ping-pong with them for three months until he got a working replacement for his 9800GTX.
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