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Old October 16th, 2013, 12:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey all! I've got a relatively new pc.. and hp g7. I like linux more than windows 8. So I tried installing ubuntu (more specificly lubuntu) and did away with windows.

Well, after experimenting in the live cd, it seemed to work just fine so I install and get rid of windows entirely. But install fails with grub2 bootloader not installing. I've done some looking and I'll be honest, I don't know many linux commands, but I went ahead with the commands while in the live cd to try and make it work. With no success. So now I've got a pc with a live cd able to run and a broken operating system.

I am in the process of downloading linux mint iso. And I'm going to burn it to a thumb drive from the live cd hoping that will allow linux mint to be booted up and installed.

But will it work?! Only time will tell.. I certainly hope so! I don't want my new pc to quote unquote "brick" lol

Anyone got some good suggestions to possibly just make lubuntu work??

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Old October 16th, 2013, 12:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If your machine has UEFI, make sure that Secure Boot is disabled.
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I think it does but how do I do that??
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When you turn the machine on, there should be an option to get into UEFI... similar to the way you get into BIOS on older machines (UEFI is the replacement for BIOS).

Depending on the machine, this could be through a key combination such as Ctrl+Alt+Esc or it could be a single button like F2, F9 or F10.

If you have the manual for the computer, there should be something about it in there.

A quick web search for 'get into UEFI G7' tells me that you might have to hit the Esc key a few times to get into the Startup menu, and then hit F10 to get into UEFI Setup.
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i had to download an ISO that actually removed secure boot and made it work like a normal BIOS, then slapped in my Linux CD, made sure to change boot order to boot the CD first, and it worked. keep in mind it will get harder as they keep patching the UEFI partition.
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i had to download an ISO that actually removed secure boot and made it work like a normal BIOS, then slapped in my Linux CD, made sure to change boot order to boot the CD first, and it worked. keep in mind it will get harder as they keep patching the UEFI partition.
Now I wonder if this is for security, or something Microsoft might be doing to try to ensure that PCs only run "genuine" Windows, by locking them down. An anti-piracy measure(hello China), and to stop people using alternative non-Microsoft OSs.

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Myself I've not had any actual dealings with a UEFI or secure boot PC yet. Was working with a couple of brand new Lenovo Thinkpad laptops recently, and they both appeared to have a regular BIOS, There was no problem with installing Linux on either of them, together with Windows in a dual-boot configuration.
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I got it figured out uefi was a little easier to disable than I expected
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I am a bit irritated that my laptop won't boot from USB drive due to 'lack of drivers' or something...

EFI does not do Win32 bootable, apparently.
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Now I wonder if this is for security, or something Microsoft might be doing to try to ensure that PCs only run "genuine" Windows, by locking them down. An anti-piracy measure(hello China), and to stop people using alternative non-Microsoft OSs.
The public reason is that it makes malware that targets the boot sector and the BIOS/UEFI itself very difficult.

Preventing non-MS OSes, and later, as Trusted Computing takes hold, non-MS approved software, is definitely a possibility. I would not put it past Microsoft to have these plans.
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