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Old August 31st, 2010, 08:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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All useful threads will be added to this global sticky, if you feel a thread is worth of inclusion then please pm me with the details and I'll look it over. Good luck with your fantastic and sexy phone all!



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Hey guys and gals..

Our root sticky (This one) will soon be replaced by the following:

Desire - All Things Root Guide

This is our opportunity again to put our stamp on it...

Currently it looks like this: I have put my comments below in greem too. What do you guys think?



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Root terminology is more advanced than ours. Good time to replace it. The "what is root" is covered by the rooting FAQ I feel.

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Should Stock ROM list point to Shipped roms?

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What about adding antutu CPU master? https://market.android.com/details?id=com.antutu.CpuMasterFree&feature=search _result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbnR1dHUuQ3B1TWF zdGVyRnJlZSJd

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Maybe just keep the root tools thread here and amalgamate with the below?

Perhaps we could recommend root apps here instead? Not sure about "ROM Toolbox" though


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Shipped-ROMs is definitely better than that XDA thread for RUUs. Not only has the XDA list not been updated for more than a year, but I think the CDMA RUUs are for the wrong phone! Shipped-ROMs use HTC codenames, so the Desire CDMA is Bravo_C rather than Desire (which was the codename for the Droid Eris).

How about something like:


where the links are to the appropriate shipped-ROMs collections (though it's not much of a collection for CDMA - does anyone know a better one?)
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I actually wish i had something constructive to say here, but i found the current guide great, things can only get better eh!

if i think of anything, I'll be sure to let you know.
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im very happy with that, very happy indeed.
looks very logical
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This is my proposal, please advise if we want to add / change so I can report to a guide / mod to update?

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Hi Dan,

Just comparing this to the new sticky, and maybe some of the tools and utilities links are worth preserving (though like you I'm not sure about ROM Toolbox)? Apart from SetCPU, Ti and Root Explorer would be the first 2 root apps that come to mind, so I don't see the harm in linking those - we've recommended them often enough

Anything else I'd add? QSI isn't really a root app, but it's one we've recommended often enough when trying to diagnose problems that maybe it's worth a link? I've had a browse through my own app drawer and don't see so much else.

Did you reckon Scary Alien's "what is root" was too, well, scary?
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Do you mean the "what does rooting mean?" Thread? If so thought it was just repeating what was in the rooting faq.

Don't want duplicate info so if you want both, feel free to strip the rooting faq.

I'm just a bit concerned its a bit of a mess right now so I'm having to point people to my signature rather than the sticky until its sorted. It's not ideal so whatever it takes to get it right and not have two guides and general info sections....
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Agreed that one place is better, and I'm not stripping the rooting FAQ!

At the moment the wretched Phandroid app won't let me look at this thread - just gives "error". Think I'm going to have to Tapatalk after all...
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Tapatalk is not without its quirks. It's 100 times better than Phandroid though. I'm not sure 15 minutes trial is long enough.

Bullet points are the most annoying as they don't list, they display in rows like normal text.
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Yeah, that's rubbish but I'm used to the XDA app so not such a shock.

At least I can read this thread! Also Phandroid has started sucking cpu in the background, even though I have the old version. So the time has come
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It's amazing after a while how we ever survived with Phandroid app...
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Awesome job, much neater, well done,
Is it also worth adding a troubleshooting section?
Ie, things to try if something isn't working? Like linking to terminal emulator, gps test?
Probably not but just wondering?
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I've been trying to educate myself about the "standard sticky", and as I currently grok it (sorry, it's late!) I think that a troubleshooting guide added to the guides section would be fine, but an extra section in the sticky would be more controvertial.

Dan, I'm guessing the main motivation for your proposal in post 8 vs post 4 is flattening the structure and removing subsections whose names match the first 2 sections? I think that's completely cool, as well as much neater.

Please, anyone else with ideas do chip in. The purpose of the sticky is to serve the needs of the forum, so we need your thoughts.
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Yes indeed but also to remove as much duplication as well. For example, there's sdk download and adb stuff which we already have.

I personally would like exactly that post and nothing else from the new sticky. Then just anything else the desire community could add
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The SDK download is a particularly visible difference. I guess it's a trade-off between visibility and duplication. ADB should be obvious from the title "[FAQ] ADB and Fastboot", so that one seems a clearer-cut example of something that can be tidied up.

Google apps is the odd one to me - very necessary for just one ROM, but it's a very widely known ROM. I think that I regard that as an oddity of CM rather than something people need generally, so not so important to include in the sticky (unless we feel that there's a chance that people who flash CM without noticing that it doesn't include gapps would go here without being directed - long shot in my opinion! )
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Hadron, a troubleshooting guide would be an excellent addition, good idea.
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Hadron, a troubleshooting guide would be an excellent addition, good idea.
I would suggest that a troubleshooting guide should include, or link to, a guide to how to apply a RUU through fastboot including instructions to apply the downgrade hboot if a custom hboot had been applied.

When I had to return my phone for repair (wouldn't boot) I had no idea
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It's actually duckys idea.


We could link to bortaks troubleshooting guide on xda. Senseless doing all the work again?

I don't think I have the time to do sb SUroot style one....

Although we could list all the scenarios and collaborate on Google docs or something
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ah, thanks to Ducky, but also Hadron and your good self for all the hard work.
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and i quote from my last post

"and your good self", aimed at you Dan.
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i like that the revised one looks less intense
its hard to give input into whether or not these changes are sufficient as im not really a user of guides anymore and wouldnt know what it would be like to first come across this guides.
smaller is definitely better as long as it serves the same purpose as the original. in this instance i think it does.

basically i cant see any reason for it not to be the revised version
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It's actually duckys idea.


We could link to bortaks troubleshooting guide on xda. Senseless doing all the work again?

I don't think I have the time to do sb SUroot style one....

Although we could list all the scenarios and collaborate on Google docs or something
thats an excellent idea, its a good guide, then maybe add a useful app guide,
like i suggested for apps like gps test, terminal, titanium, sms backup, apn, backup, and any others people feel are a necessary app.
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Cool.

Hadron, could we get this added as is for now please? Then work on what else we want. I really want to start directing people to the sticky rather than my signature.
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I'll have a go sometime this evening. Was thinking I should look at this tonight anyway as my availability won't be so good this week.
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OK, I've done the edits.

I left the MD5 verification link in because I figured that was only partially duplicating what we had elsewhere - the Toolbox has the Windows tools, but that link has Android tools and even a Mac solution in it as well. Otherwise it's as in post 8.
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OK, I've done the edits.

I left the MD5 verification link in because I figured that was only partially duplicating what we had elsewhere - the Toolbox has the Windows tools, but that link has Android tools and even a Mac solution in it as well. Otherwise it's as in post 8.
Awesome, thank you...


Edit.. looks very neat
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Im in CM7.

Hboot 0.93.0001
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Everytime i run the official RUU, it always says error 140 bootloader.

How do I get hboot to 0.83 and official Asia froyo 2.2?
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Your current hboot is newer, so the ruu won't run.

There are tricks for downgrading. Am on phone so can't easily dig up links, but a forum search for downgrader should bring something up. I expect it needs a goldcard (see the rooting faq, linked from the All Things Root Guide sticky post).

Why do you want to downgrade to something that old?
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Hi Hadron, it is because I wanted to get it for a trade-in, thus i need to bring my htc desire S back to original stock ROM.

I try finding answers but none has helped me.
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This is the Desire forum, I am sure you don't want to be putting Desire stuff on a Desire S.
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hmm, now i'm confused. how to check which desire am I using exactly? I mean there is htc desire GSM/S/Z or wat so ever.
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GSM is a technical standard. If the phone has a SIM card, it's GSM.

HTC have used the name "Desire" for a number of devices: Desire, Desire HD, Desire Z, Desire S, Desire C, Desire X (just announced), and I've probably missed one or two

Visit GSMarena.com and look at the list of HTC phones (from the sidebar). You should be able to recognise yours from the picture. But you should be able to tell from this description:

The Desire (this forum) has 2 physical buttons on the bottom-left (home and menu), back and search keys on a rocker switch on the bottom-right, and a little round optical trackpad in the middle. No physical slide-out keyboard (that's the Z). Oh, and on the HBOOT screen it will say "Bravo" at the top (Desire S is "Saga").
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ah mine fits your description! is Z then.

Hi Hadrod, I have been trying out many roms and recovery. I think I pretty messed up my desire right now. I could get between gingerbread 2.3 upgrade RUU & [Rom/Kernel][CM7/AOSP][2.3.7]CronMod-bravo/bravoc (Updated 08/11) - xda-developers this CM7.

However, i wish to go back to my 2.2 froyo Asia RUU, I try to follow teppiz, Alpharez methods, and even direct run the official RUU but it seems that my hboot stuck at between 0.93.0001(CM7 first version, 2.3.7 Gingerbread), 1.02.0001(2.3.3 Gingerbread), 6.93.0001(CM7 second version, 2.3.7 Gingerbread) and after flashing alpharez downgrade hboot file i get 6.93.9999

Is there any solution?
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Just check one thing: you say it fits the description, but then say "is Z then". Is that last a typo ("Z" has a physical keyboard, Desire does not)?

Assuming it's a Desire (i.e. Bravo), then is the RUU you are trying to install RUU_Bravo_Froyo_hTC_Asia_WWE_2.13.707.1_Radio_32.4 4.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_143921_signed.exe? That's the only Froyo Asia I can see at shipped-ROMs (the other 2 HTC Asia's I see there are Eclair). Or have you a later one?

If you've actually flashed the alpharev downgrader have you tried your preferred RUU after that? That one's intended to let you overwrite it, and bypasses customer id (i.e. region/network) checks, so it may be that it'll work now.
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Yes, it is a desire Bravo. Yeap, that is the one I tried. I followed Alpharev steps and installed the RUU too. Both methods doesn't work. I even go all the way to flash the 2.3 upgrade gingerbread rom, hoping I could downgrade from there but it still didn't work. I knew my hboot initially was 0.83, PVT1, the latest radio 5.17.... and S-ON.
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Will the official 2.33 not work for the trade-in? That's official HTC software, and here in the UK they still accept your warranty after running that.

What happens when you try to run the Froyo Asia RUU after the downgrader hboot? Does it still just refuse to run?
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hmm in SG, they only accept the official updates from OTA(telecom companies) which is 2.2.1 froyo. As this 2.3.3 update, I got it from the shipped rom website yea so Im not quite sure they accept it.

When I run it, it stuck at verifying signature page shown on my desktop. Thereafter it gives an error 140 bootloader.
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You could have got it from HTCdev.com for all they know, but if they really are only going to accept the HTC Asia version we'll have to try that.

So what happened when you ran teppic's downgrader, and what software/hboot did you have when you tried that?

The reason I'm asking is this: the downgrader won't run the RUU you want, but it will let you flash a 0.93 hboot (so a later Froyo). So you could try running another WWE Froyo RUU (RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.0 0.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe is an early Froyo, but I think will work for this). That will I believe leave you with a 0.93 hboot, but I think teppic's downgrader should work on that release (though you'll need a goldcard). And if you can get the downgrader to work you should, according to the thread, be back to hboot 0.83, and that means you ought to be able to run the RUU you want.

A bit convoluted, but the best I can come up with. I should add that I've never used the downgrader or made a goldcard myself, so this is all guesswork based on other people's experiences.
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For teppiez, I had never succeeded in it even with a goldcard. I get an error which says main version is older, update failed.
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Haven't much time online today, so this will be brief.

I have had one idea that might work. It's very much at your own risk.

There is a way of extracting a PB99IMG.zip from an RUU - one thread in the ATR Guide sticky has this in the title, and the usb unbrick guide refers to it too. Once you have one of those, you can unzip it and it should contain a number of image files (boot, hboot, radio, recovery, system). These are what the ruu installs.

Question is, if you are S-Off (i.e. have a Alpharev or Revolutionary hboot) is there anything stopping you from fastboot flashing these images directly?

You would want Alpharev stock hboot, or maybe the downgrader (don't know what partitions that has - I'd have made it stock myself, but don't know for sure). The stock rom in the ruu won't fit in other hboots.

We use fastboot for updating radio or recovery, so know that's fine (fastboot flash recovery recovery.img for example). We don't use it for rom installation as ROMs aren't distributed as images, but I can't see why it wouldn't work there (fastboot flash system system.img), and boot can be updated that way. And we do this to update hboot. So while the ruu won't let you downgrade hboot, can you just fastboot flash the image? If the hboot itself or the fastboot command doesn't impose the version check it should work.

This is untried territory as far as I'm concerned, and a problem flashing radio or hboot is the end of the phone. So while I think this might work in principle, and as long as the images are intact should be safe, I'm not advocating it. It would be your call.

If you try this, leave hboot to last - when you flash that you will lose the ability to fastboot flash anything else! I would suggest booting the phone before that last step to check it works - as long as you are S-Off we can fix problems with ROM or recovery, but once you flash hboot the only option left if it isn't working is an RUU.

Anyway, not one to rush into, but if the trade in is worth enough to you and you can't run the ruu any other way this might work. It may let you update the ROM anyway!
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One other thought before I go offline. Scotty85 knows htc hacking very well. You could ask him whether he sees a flaw in that plan if you were interested in trying?
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