Desire: All about Rooting - Updated 11 Nov 2011

lekky · August 31st, 2010, 08:13 AM

All useful threads will be added to this global sticky, if you feel a thread is worth of inclusion then please pm me with the details and I'll look it over. Good luck with your fantastic and sexy phone all!

General Information

Guides

ROMs

Desire ROMs at XDA Developers

Tools & Downloads

Useful Downloads for Root users - The Toolbox

NightAngel79 · May 16th, 2011, 05:31 AM

Updated

Usta · May 29th, 2011, 07:31 AM

Updated on July 21st, 2011.

SUroot · February 21st, 2012, 02:00 PM

Hey guys and gals..

Our root sticky (This one) will soon be replaced by the following:

Desire - All Things Root Guide

This is our opportunity again to put our stamp on it...

Currently it looks like this: I have put my comments below in greem too. What do you guys think?

General Information

Root terminology is more advanced than ours. Good time to replace it. The "what is root" is covered by the rooting FAQ I feel.

Guides

ROMs/Kernels

Should Stock ROM list point to Shipped roms?

Themes

Overclocking / Underclocking / Undervolting

What about adding antutu CPU master? https://market.android.com/details?id=com.antutu.CpuMasterFree&feature=search _result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbnR1dHUuQ3B1TWF zdGVyRnJlZSJd

Tools & Utilities

Maybe just keep the root tools thread here and amalgamate with the below?

Perhaps we could recommend root apps here instead? Not sure about "ROM Toolbox" though

Downloads

Hadron · February 24th, 2012, 02:14 PM

Shipped-ROMs is definitely better than that XDA thread for RUUs. Not only has the XDA list not been updated for more than a year, but I think the CDMA RUUs are for the wrong phone! Shipped-ROMs use HTC codenames, so the Desire CDMA is Bravo_C rather than Desire (which was the codename for the Droid Eris).

How about something like:

Stock ROM lists (RUUs): GSM CDMA

where the links are to the appropriate shipped-ROMs collections (though it's not much of a collection for CDMA - does anyone know a better one?)

Tyseyh · February 24th, 2012, 06:55 PM

I actually wish i had something constructive to say here, but i found the current guide great, things can only get better eh!

if i think of anything, I'll be sure to let you know.

Rastaman-FB · February 26th, 2012, 05:01 AM

im very happy with that, very happy indeed.
looks very logical

SUroot · March 2nd, 2012, 07:22 AM

This is my proposal, please advise if we want to add / change so I can report to a guide / mod to update?

General Information

Guides

ROMs/Kernels

ROM List -XDA
Shipped ROMs
- GSM
- CDMA

Themes

Overclocking / Underclocking / Undervolting

Tools, Utilities & Downloads

Useful Downloads for Root users - The Toolbox

Hadron · March 2nd, 2012, 04:56 PM

Hi Dan,

Just comparing this to the new sticky, and maybe some of the tools and utilities links are worth preserving (though like you I'm not sure about ROM Toolbox)? Apart from SetCPU, Ti and Root Explorer would be the first 2 root apps that come to mind, so I don't see the harm in linking those - we've recommended them often enough

Anything else I'd add? QSI isn't really a root app, but it's one we've recommended often enough when trying to diagnose problems that maybe it's worth a link? I've had a browse through my own app drawer and don't see so much else.

Did you reckon Scary Alien's "what is root" was too, well, scary?

SUroot · March 2nd, 2012, 05:59 PM

Do you mean the "what does rooting mean?" Thread? If so thought it was just repeating what was in the rooting faq.

Don't want duplicate info so if you want both, feel free to strip the rooting faq.

I'm just a bit concerned its a bit of a mess right now so I'm having to point people to my signature rather than the sticky until its sorted. It's not ideal so whatever it takes to get it right and not have two guides and general info sections....

Hadron · March 3rd, 2012, 02:17 AM

Agreed that one place is better, and I'm not stripping the rooting FAQ!

At the moment the wretched Phandroid app won't let me look at this thread - just gives "error". Think I'm going to have to Tapatalk after all...

SUroot · March 3rd, 2012, 04:18 AM

Tapatalk is not without its quirks. It's 100 times better than Phandroid though. I'm not sure 15 minutes trial is long enough.

Bullet points are the most annoying as they don't list, they display in rows like normal text.

Hadron · March 3rd, 2012, 09:06 AM

Yeah, that's rubbish but I'm used to the XDA app so not such a shock.

At least I can read this thread! Also Phandroid has started sucking cpu in the background, even though I have the old version. So the time has come

SUroot · March 3rd, 2012, 09:30 AM

It's amazing after a while how we ever survived with Phandroid app...

ducky1979 · March 3rd, 2012, 06:39 PM

Awesome job, much neater, well done,
Is it also worth adding a troubleshooting section?
Ie, things to try if something isn't working? Like linking to terminal emulator, gps test?
Probably not but just wondering?

Hadron · March 3rd, 2012, 07:20 PM

I've been trying to educate myself about the "standard sticky", and as I currently grok it (sorry, it's late!) I think that a troubleshooting guide added to the guides section would be fine, but an extra section in the sticky would be more controvertial.

Dan, I'm guessing the main motivation for your proposal in post 8 vs post 4 is flattening the structure and removing subsections whose names match the first 2 sections? I think that's completely cool, as well as much neater.

Please, anyone else with ideas do chip in. The purpose of the sticky is to serve the needs of the forum, so we need your thoughts.

SUroot · March 3rd, 2012, 08:00 PM

Yes indeed but also to remove as much duplication as well. For example, there's sdk download and adb stuff which we already have.

I personally would like exactly that post and nothing else from the new sticky. Then just anything else the desire community could add

Hadron · March 3rd, 2012, 08:15 PM

The SDK download is a particularly visible difference. I guess it's a trade-off between visibility and duplication. ADB should be obvious from the title "[FAQ] ADB and Fastboot", so that one seems a clearer-cut example of something that can be tidied up.

Google apps is the odd one to me - very necessary for just one ROM, but it's a very widely known ROM. I think that I regard that as an oddity of CM rather than something people need generally, so not so important to include in the sticky (unless we feel that there's a chance that people who flash CM without noticing that it doesn't include gapps would go here without being directed - long shot in my opinion!

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shauny13 · March 4th, 2012, 02:37 AM

Hadron, a troubleshooting guide would be an excellent addition, good idea.

nicka3200 · March 4th, 2012, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shauny13

Hadron, a troubleshooting guide would be an excellent addition, good idea.

I would suggest that a troubleshooting guide should include, or link to, a guide to how to apply a RUU through fastboot including instructions to apply the downgrade hboot if a custom hboot had been applied.

When I had to return my phone for repair (wouldn't boot) I had no idea

SUroot · March 4th, 2012, 07:15 AM

It's actually duckys idea.

We could link to bortaks troubleshooting guide on xda. Senseless doing all the work again?

I don't think I have the time to do sb SUroot style one....

Although we could list all the scenarios and collaborate on Google docs or something

shauny13 · March 4th, 2012, 07:49 AM

ah, thanks to Ducky, but also Hadron and your good self for all the hard work.

SUroot · March 4th, 2012, 08:10 AM

But not me?

shauny13 · March 4th, 2012, 08:21 AM

and i quote from my last post

"and your good self", aimed at you Dan.

SUroot · March 4th, 2012, 08:59 AM

Oh ok

Rastaman-FB · March 4th, 2012, 01:01 PM

i like that the revised one looks less intense
its hard to give input into whether or not these changes are sufficient as im not really a user of guides anymore and wouldnt know what it would be like to first come across this guides.
smaller is definitely better as long as it serves the same purpose as the original. in this instance i think it does.

basically i cant see any reason for it not to be the revised version

ducky1979 · March 4th, 2012, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUroot

It's actually duckys idea.

We could link to bortaks troubleshooting guide on xda. Senseless doing all the work again?

I don't think I have the time to do sb SUroot style one....

Although we could list all the scenarios and collaborate on Google docs or something

thats an excellent idea, its a good guide, then maybe add a useful app guide,
like i suggested for apps like gps test, terminal, titanium, sms backup, apn, backup, and any others people feel are a necessary app.

SUroot · March 5th, 2012, 04:27 AM

Cool.

Hadron, could we get this added as is for now please? Then work on what else we want. I really want to start directing people to the sticky rather than my signature.

Hadron · March 5th, 2012, 08:41 AM

I'll have a go sometime this evening. Was thinking I should look at this tonight anyway as my availability won't be so good this week.

Hadron · March 5th, 2012, 03:14 PM

OK, I've done the edits.

I left the MD5 verification link in because I figured that was only partially duplicating what we had elsewhere - the Toolbox has the Windows tools, but that link has Android tools and even a Mac solution in it as well. Otherwise it's as in post 8.

SUroot · March 5th, 2012, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hadron

OK, I've done the edits.

I left the MD5 verification link in because I figured that was only partially duplicating what we had elsewhere - the Toolbox has the Windows tools, but that link has Android tools and even a Mac solution in it as well. Otherwise it's as in post 8.

Awesome, thank you...

Edit.. looks very neat

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