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Old October 21st, 2010, 09:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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It is an brand Desire, I rooted, I loaded custom rom (worked fine), but the ROM manager screwed up something. I guess, it reflashed the bootloader (or recovery?), but failed.
Now the desire cannot boot. It stucked at the screen, with logo afer reset and freez.
The bootloader says :

BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.10.05.23

If I try to go to RECOVERY the screen goes white, and nothing happens.

If I put the PB99IMG.zip to SD card, the HBOOT finds it, but says, "Main version is older"

Is any way to reFlash the rom ?

What to do ?

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Use an RUU with equal or higher release number compared to what you originally had, or try the PB99IMG.zip file from the 'alternative froyo installation' thread in the main forum.
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btw rom manager does not reflash the bootloader or recovery.
it puts a fake recovery in a clockworkmod folder on sdcard and uses root to make a adb reboot to the clockworkmod zip rather than full recovery

if you take the sdcard out can you get to recovery?
how did you root the device?
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btw rom manager does not reflash the bootloader or recovery.
it puts a fake recovery in a clockworkmod folder on sdcard and uses root to make a adb reboot to the clockworkmod zip rather than full recovery

if you take the sdcard out can you get to recovery?
No, it`s impossible - Recovery gives me operator logo, after 5 sec black bar at the top of screen and telephone down (not not really off - computer sees it as a android device).

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how did you root the device?
I used unrevoked method - but after reset the telephone remained dead. I took out battery and SD - It helped.

I wanted to fix it.

With RomManager -> Flash ClockworkMod Recovery -> Reboot into Recovery

Since then Desire cannot boot.
For 30 sec I have a logo then reset logo 5 sec and freez, like I wrote above.
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If you can't get into recovery via ill down plus power then recovery, sound like ruu is the only way you can go
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But how ? RUU gives me <error 170> I think loaded system is needed.
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But how ? RUU gives me <error 170> I think loaded system is needed.
See teppic74's earlier reply.
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No, it`s impossible - Recovery gives me operator logo, after 5 sec black bar at the top of screen and telephone down (not not really off - computer sees it as a android device).



I used unrevoked method - but after reset the telephone remained dead. I took out battery and SD - It helped.

I wanted to fix it.

With RomManager -> Flash ClockworkMod Recovery -> Reboot into Recovery

Since then Desire cannot boot.
For 30 sec I have a logo then reset logo 5 sec and freez, like I wrote above.
sounds like recovery did not successfully flash from unrevoked.
if you manage to get to the red triangle when the sdcard is out then i think the sdcard is causing a problem with loading recovery

try this. take the sdcard out and put it in a card reader
(copy the contents off the card to a computer)
format the card as fat32
on the computer go to the <backup folder you made>/clockworkmod/download/koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries/ copy recover-clockwork-2.5.0.7-bravo.zip
paste it to the root of the card, rename it to update.zip (delete update.zip if you already have it there
place the card back into the device and boot to recovery
if it doesnt autoload the hold volup+ power when in recovery, there maybe an option for apply update.zip.
this may get you into the fake flash recovery where you can then try applying a custom rom like teppics.
once done then try using unrevoked again to flash a recovery
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That's not going to work - if recovery is broken there's nothing you can do but flash an RUU. You definitely can't reflash recovery unless you re-run unrevoked3 (or use S-OFF) because of the hardware lock; stock recovery will not run fake flash under any circumstances.
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Indeed, that only works on the engineering recovery we talked about the other week
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That's not going to work - if recovery is broken there's nothing you can do but flash an RUU. You definitely can't reflash recovery unless you re-run unrevoked3 (or use S-OFF) because of the hardware lock; stock recovery will not run fake flash under any circumstances.
well he cant do either as he cannot boot to main rom which both require.

i thought if the device was rooted you might be able to use update.zip even if you didnt have engineering

i havent seen a standard recovery menu as i modified mine pretty quickly

ahh well


EDIT: Teppic, how did you make that pb99img.zip?
if he has a goldcard is it possible for the latest possible version to be converted into a pb99img.zip and then flashed?
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A rooted phone won't change recovery (you don't need to be rooted for custom recovery, and custom recovery won't provide root).

The latest unbranded RUU is available as a PB99IMG.zip file as described. So if the phone was unbranded, no goldcard will be necessary to fix it. This method doesn't require a working recovery or working ROM.
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sounds like recovery did not successfully flash from unrevoked.
if you manage to get to the red triangle when the sdcard is out then i think the sdcard is causing a problem with loading recovery
I also suppose that unrevoked is responsible for my problem.

But Desire does not want to fully load system even without SDcard.

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try this. take the sdcard out and put <CUT>
I tried - exactly as you wrote - No change
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,cut.
EDIT: Teppic, how did you make that pb99img.zip?
if he has a goldcard is it possible for the latest possible version to be converted into a pb99img.zip and then flashed?
With pb99img.zip I get error: "Main version is older" - That's the point

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A rooted phone won't change recovery (you don't need to be rooted for custom recovery, and custom recovery won't provide root).
The latest unbranded RUU is available as a PB99IMG.zip file as described. So if the phone was unbranded, no goldcard will be necessary to fix it. This method doesn't require a working recovery or working ROM.
My Desire is brand-one. What can I do ?

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That's not going to work - if recovery is broken there's nothing you can do but flash an RUU. You definitely can't reflash recovery unless you re-run unrevoked3 (or use S-OFF) because of the hardware lock; stock recovery will not run fake flash under any circumstances.
Now, I launched successfully RUU under USB_Fastboot !

But I tried a number of stock images-roms (with GoldCard - my phone is brand one) and each time I get error:

140:BOOTLOADER VERSION ERROR - on Desire screen : "Main Version is older"

My rom version: 2.15.118.1

What else can be done ???
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Did you use this file renamed to PB99img.zip:

Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites!

With goldcard as per this thread?

Froyo (2.09.405.8) update - Windows not required
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If you have 2.15.118.1 you will need to downgrade your ROM first.

[HOWTO] Downgrade Froyo (2.2) to Stock 2.1 (ANY HBOOT | WIN/LINUX/MAC | ROOT) - xda-developers
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Did you use this file renamed to PB99img.zip:
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With goldcard as per this thread?
Froyo (2.09.405.8) update - Windows not required
Yep, goldcard present - but sitll "Main version is older"

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[HOWTO] Downgrade Froyo (2.2) to Stock 2.1 (ANY HBOOT | WIN/LINUX/MAC | ROOT) - xda-developers
Yep - but Downgrade requires system - I have only access to Hboot .
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You have a bit of a problem then. You could try a branded update with a higher release number (e.g. Three's froyo), and then downgrade that.
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You have a bit of a problem then. You could try a branded update with a higher release number (e.g. Three's froyo), and then downgrade that.
could i ask what would happen if you renamed the fake clockwork update.zip to PB99IMG.zip

ive not tried it but wondered if it could some how initiate recovery

im not trying to confuse matters, im just interested if anyone has tried it
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It wouldn't work.

The PB99IMG.zip method flashes the phone, it doesn't use recovery at all (and so works when recovery is broken).
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ahh ok
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I made a little progress - I have access to recovery, at the beginning is:

E:/Can`t open /cache/recovery/command


Can I do something now and maybe and solve my problem?
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What if you press vol up at that point? I get that error whenever I manually not into recovery although o rooted with an ancient method and have a different recovery mo doubt
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When I try in recovery to manually flash via update.zip :

E:error in /sdcard/update.zip
(status 7)
Installation aborted

> ?
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what is this update.zip?
a recovery or a rom?
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what is this update.zip?
a recovery or a rom?
I tried both - always : an error


So, I give up

I`m sending the phone to an authorized service.

We'll see - warranty success or not (

Thanx 2ever1 for time and help
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ARGH!!! Dont give up. I've got exactly the same issue. Caused by pretty much the same error on my behalf.
Can boot to HBOOT (vol DOWN, press power)
Can get into recovery (from HBOOT select RECOVERY, wait for red triangle, hold vol UP, press power)
Have tried heaps of different PB99IMG.zip's and heaps of update.zip's with no luck.

Basically, HTC/Telstra updated HBOOT to version 0.93 and enabled S-ON (security on) which basically leaves you with no way of upgrading or downgrading HBOOT. AlphaDev have made an excellent boot CD to disable (sort of) S-ON but you have to be in USB debugging to run it (same with Revoked of course). When the furthest you can get is HBOOT also FASTBOOT and the built in recovery I mentioned earlier.

I CAN use fastboot commands from my PC but CAN'T use any adb commands as adb isnt detecting the device (no USB debugging again).
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I FOUND THE SOLUTION (excuse the all caps but I'm pretty pumped right about now).
Just go to this link and do what they say....

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1564427

The main thing you need from this is the http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Bravo_Froyo_Telstra_WWE_2.26.841.2-1.25.841.5_release_Puyk1n84ucirkwseq.zip file.
Rename it so update.zip and drop it on your SD card (I used a goldcard but it might not be essential).
Enter HBOOT (hold vol down, press power, release vol down when the HBOOT screen appears), wait for the PB99IMG.zip to be rejected (about 5 seconds) then press vol down once to highlight RECOVERY and press power.
This looks like it tries to boot then fails but when the red triangle appears, hold vol UP and press power (release vol up when the recovery menu appears).
Select install update.zip from SD card and cross your fingers.

It took about 10 mins with progress indicators along the way and so far the only concern is that it's not finding my SIM card. Mind you, I havent touched anything yet and wanted to get this post up for anyone else who is suffering this.
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It is an brand Desire, I rooted, I loaded custom rom (worked fine), but the ROM manager screwed up something. I guess, it reflashed the bootloader (or recovery?), but failed.
Now the desire cannot boot. It stucked at the screen, with logo afer reset and freez.
The bootloader says :

BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.10.05.23

If I try to go to RECOVERY the screen goes white, and nothing happens.

If I put the PB99IMG.zip to SD card, the HBOOT finds it, but says, "Main version is older"

Is any way to reFlash the rom ?

What to do ?
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hi you
did you solve your problem because I have the same problem as you
I have HBOOT:0.93.0001
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I have resolved my issue. I used Revolutionary (the new AlphaRev + Unrevoked combination), and could not get root. I tried all sorts to get it working.

In the end it was this post that helped:

[Q] s-off struggle - Page 2 - xda-developers


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The live cd method worked fine for me just now, in under 10 minutes I have S-OFF!

I actually just got this to work fine with the CD method - about 8 minutes and I have S-OFF!

The problem must have lain with the stock rom I was left with after creating a goldcard and rooting. Is it possible that this process leaves you with your stock (shipped) rom that has no identity, hence not recognised? Indeed, is that the point of creating the goldcard and I am missing it?

Anyway I post this for anyone else considering the procedure - Alpharev S-OFF 1.8 works fine for a rooted Desire running Oxygen 2.0.1 and Clockworkmod 2.5.0.7. No need to restore a backup - it booted just fine first time after the procedure.

Thanks all for viewing and posting
I flashed Oxygens Mod, ran Revotionary, and within 1min I had S-Off.

Hope this helps someone else. (BTW) I had the CID error no matter how hard I tried.

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