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Old November 23rd, 2010, 08:54 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Done! Am now using teppics ROM with power saving mods and Apps2SD+.
Quick system info shows A2SD storage Total: 458mb Free: 331mb

Looks like its working to me! woo hoo!

Should be happy now as Ive got what I set out to do but am already thinking of what I want to do next!

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Old November 23rd, 2010, 10:34 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Lucky.you. I've actually done all the modifications I want to do so need someone to invent more for me to do.

It's fair to say I'm addicted
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:04 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Bah. Im poor nowadays. I cant believe how much my hourly rate has gone down in teh last 18 months
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Silly question: I partitioned my SD card to allow for A2SD+ and then flashed Teppic's ROM which all works fine. I now want to flash LeeDroid 2.2f, which even though is a Sense Rom will probably involve wiping to ensure a clean load. If I wipe the card, I know I'll lose the apps on it (I'll do a Titanium back-up first...) but will I have to repartitian the card too or is that done for good now?
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:25 PM   #56 (permalink)
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turbohobbit, just thought it might be worth mentioning. I seem to remember reading that there's going to be a Leedroid 2.2g release shortly, you might want to hold off for a few days?
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:38 PM   #57 (permalink)
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You wont wipe the card. You will wipe data which will remove the apps from EXT partition.

Then do your (selective) titanium restore.

You can always try without wiping first (you can wipe from recovery, so if you get a boot loop, drop the battery out and boot into recovery).

No point holding off. 2.2g will flash directly over f when its out. I do this sort of thing on the bus to work quite often. No biggie.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:42 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Cool, thanks guys. I'll take a backup now, try without wiping and see what happens...
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Looks like I'm in a boot loop. I've dropped the battery and booted into recovery. Presume I now choose "wipe data / factory reset"?

After that, do I have to reflash the rom or do I just restart?
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Jist restart.
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Cool, cheers. Yup, did that and it all went swimmingly.
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I rooted my desire then partition my sd card using rom manager, the first time it didn't do it properly because once I flashed to leedroid 2.2f and used system info it said A2sd was only 15MB and 13MB free. Did it again right now and now its 458MB and free 347MB. Do I have to reflash leedroid? also how do I check if the SD card partition is ext3?
Any app out there that can allow me to partition to 1024MB?

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For a bigger partition you need to do it on pc. You don't really need it.
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just my experience

i flashed leedroid 2.2f and created 1 1gb ext3 part on my 16gb card

i have loads of apps for a change and managed to install flash and maps updates etc

Quick system info reports

A2SD Storage
Total 0.93gb , Free 513mb

internal Storage
Total 148mb, Free 64.61mb

so from my point of view it was well worth going to 1gb as 512 just wouldnt have been enough which was my only reason for doing it in the first place.

i know that i can get rid of some apps but now i dont need to
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Suppose it depends on the apps then
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Lucky.you. I've actually done all the modifications I want to do so need someone to invent more for me to do.

It's fair to say I'm addicted
hi dan! GREAT tut! I had done the partion thing but had no clue if it had gone through. So I downloaded Quick system info per your recommendation and voila!

Now, I do apologize beforehand if this has already been asked of you or in previous posts (i have not found one helpful after reading LOTS).

A step by step guide (just as you did with this thread) to remove stock/crap apps. I have a HTC mytouch slide with SLIDE-Reloaded v1 from xda's ROM bible.

I have had the phone for three weeks now so I am still a complete noob and learning lots by the day. The one thing that is annoying me is not bien able to get rid of the bloatware.

I have tried to toggle r/w on root manager and multi-select/delete and tried Titanium delete from the back-up restore tab with no avail!

Would this be a challenge or has it already been done? If so would you point me in the right direccion please?

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hi dan! GREAT tut! I had done the partion thing but had no clue if it had gone through. So I downloaded Quick system info per your recommendation and voila!

Now, I do apologize beforehand if this has already been asked of you or in previous posts (i have not found one helpful after reading LOTS).

A step by step guide (just as you did with this thread) to remove stock/crap apps. I have a HTC mytouch slide with SLIDE-Reloaded v1 from xda's ROM bible.

I have had the phone for three weeks now so I am still a complete noob and learning lots by the day. The one thing that is annoying me is not bien able to get rid of the bloatware.

I have tried to toggle r/w on root manager and multi-select/delete and tried Titanium delete from the back-up restore tab with no avail!

Would this be a challenge or has it already been done? If so would you point me in the right direccion please?

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Dan's guide here
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Old November 26th, 2010, 12:22 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Check out the following for removing system apps:
Dan's guide here
Cheers DZ. Of course the best way now is to flash the AlphaRev 1.5 s-off hboot, buy root explorer, browse to /system/app mount as r/w in root explorer and simply delete them. As with all methods though, you need to be careful what you delete.
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Cheers DZ. Of course the best way now is to flash the AlphaRev 1.5 s-off hboot, buy root explorer, browse to /system/app mount as r/w in root explorer and simply delete them. As with all methods though, you need to be careful what you delete.
Well, I love the method you suggested for me last time I had a problem with Google Maps..No need for S-OFF..i.e..Flashing the same ROM over the current ROM after removing the app from /system/app in the ROM zip..Followed by deleting the cache.
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Well, I love the method you suggested for me last time I had a problem with Google Maps..No need for S-OFF..i.e..Flashing the same ROM over the current ROM after removing the app from /system/app in the ROM zip..Followed by deleting the cache.
Yeah that's good too. Mo help if you stay with the stock Rom though.

I need s-off for custom partition so may as well use it for deleting apps too
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Yeah that's good too. Mo help if you stay with the stock Rom though.

I need s-off for custom partition so may as well use it for deleting apps too
Custom partition on the Internal memory?
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Old November 26th, 2010, 01:24 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Thanks droid! Readon some of the info now

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Cheers DZ. Of course the best way now is to flash the AlphaRev 1.5 s-off hboot, buy root explorer, browse to /system/app mount as r/w in root explorer and simply delete them. As with all methods though, you need to be careful what you delete.
Will the AlphaRv replace my current ROM or is this some software to assist in removing apps? I actually have Root Explorer (didn't know there was a paid version though) and that is what I tried initially. Toggled the r/o to r/w > menu > multi-select > selected apps > delete but that did not get rid of anything. As soon as the phone rebooted they were back.

I did the same with Titanium. >Problems > Backup/Restore >selected apps one by one > delete. Titanium would automatically restart my phone after each one (only tried it three times) but that did not get rid of the apps either (as droid mentioned above).

You I managed to hide the suckers with Launcherpro but that is cheating and not really deleting (which is my goal).

I love this sentence from your How to post:
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I was frantically trying to remove a system installed app yesterday, but google wasn’t much help. I found many threads on various forums, all slightly different and all assuming you have a certain level of knowledge about certain things. There was no easy, step by step guide.


This has been my exact same experience AND your post did not pop up in the 5 pages I scrolled through. Problem is you look through forums and although many posts come up, it is exactly what you say, people will write in responses to others as if everyone reading the posts is an expert. I am going blind of reading and reading and searching the how to's. This DOES become addicting though
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Alpharev is a custom Bootloader. Its what boots your Rom or your recovery. It is custom in that it ignores the security flag which is stored in radio nvram. On your normal rooted Rom, this will allow deleting of apps with root explorer. Otherwise they are replaced when you reboot.

CDMA rooted users enjoy s-off when they.root with unrevoked. GSM need alpharev.

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Dan, can you link me to any guides (here or on XDA) which explains how to actually calculate and choose MTD Partition size? Which guide did you use-Firerat's or daedelus82's? And how much space have you saved with this hack? I did find a few threads, but couldnt find a good enough explanation for setting the size..
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I used daedelus.

I looked in quick system info app, how much system space was used and set system a bit bigger.

I've got 260MB of 293MB data free
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1) Backup your SD card contents to your PC
2) Install ROM manager from the Market.
3) In ROM manager, click "Flash Clockworkmod recovery"
4) Choose "Partition SD Card", select size as 512MB, Swap = 0
5) now you just need to flash your ROM with a2SD+ support.
Step 3 is SO important, even if ROM Manager says you have the current latest version of ClockworkMod. Trying to partition the SD card without flashing recovery will cause an error and you need to reboot.

You also need to flash recovery before you use ROM Manager to create a nandroid backup ("Backup current ROM"), and before flashing other .zip files (Super-Circle battery Icon) etc.
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Thanks for this Dan. I rooted and am using the Leedroid ROM. Your advice was straightforward, easy to follow and appears to be working using the 'quick system info' test. Thanks for helping me out.
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Thanks for this Dan. I rooted and am using the Leedroid ROM. Your advice was straightforward, easy to follow and appears to be working using the 'quick system info' test. Thanks for helping me out.
No worries.

I noticed a lot of questions about this, both here and in ROM threads. I thought since I had a little knowledge on the subject, I would compile the FAQ to help people out.
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Dan, as you're already aware, I'm using LeeDroid2.2F with A2SD+. Am I ok to install apps using the .apk file rather than through the market? Will these still go where they are supposed to automatically etc?

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All apps will go as desire. However, you wont get the associated market links.

Any restore via titanium will restore the market link btw.
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All apps will go as desire. However, you wont get the associated market links.

Any restore via titanium will restore the market link btw.
Cheers mate.

Just thought I'd run something past you as it confused me a little.

I restored Angry Birds to my phone last night via Titanium. For some reason, it installed part of it to my SD card and part of it to my phone.

Is this because it was saved on both my phone and SD card previously?

Anyway, after reading your post above I decided to do a bit of experimenting. The market link wasn't restored for me, despite the fact I restored the app and its data via Titanium.

I thought this was strange, so I backed up Angry Birds via Titanium and uninstalled Angry Birds.

I then reinstalled it from the Market to see if it would show up. It didn't show up at first, but it did save some of the app to the SD card, which once again I moved across to the phone.

I then rebooted my phone and the market link was restored.

I then restored only the Angry Birds data and all seems fine.

I suppose I'm wondering why it installed part of the app to my phone and part of it to the SD card?

Edit: I've just downloaded the new Angry Birds Seasons game and this did the same. It downloaded part of the game to the phone and part of it to the SD card. Once again I naturally moved it to the phone.

Also, I assume there's no harm in me only transferring across only the app data to be used with a freshly downloaded version of Angry Birds in order to get the market link restored.

It's all fairly minor stuff, but I'm enjoying the odd bit of tinkering and seeing how things work if that makes sense? I guess that's how we all learn!
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I cuerrently running LeeDrOiD 2.2f. I presume if I download and install AlphaRev 1.5 the s-off will stay in the HBOOT even if flash a new / updated custom ROM such as LeeDrOiD 2.2G (as and when it's released!).

Also, I presume I download AlphaRev to the root of the SD card, like with a new ROM?
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Cheers mate.

Just thought I'd run something past you as it confused me a little.

I restored Angry Birds to my phone last night via Titanium. For some reason, it installed part of it to my SD card and part of it to my phone.

Is this because it was saved on both my phone and SD card previously?

Anyway, after reading your post above I decided to do a bit of experimenting. The market link wasn't restored for me, despite the fact I restored the app and its data via Titanium.

I thought this was strange, so I backed up Angry Birds via Titanium and uninstalled Angry Birds.

I then reinstalled it from the Market to see if it would show up. It didn't show up at first, but it did save some of the app to the SD card, which once again I moved across to the phone.

I then rebooted my phone and the market link was restored.

I then restored only the Angry Birds data and all seems fine.

I suppose I'm wondering why it installed part of the app to my phone and part of it to the SD card?

Edit: I've just downloaded the new Angry Birds Seasons game and this did the same. It downloaded part of the game to the phone and part of it to the SD card. Once again I naturally moved it to the phone.

Also, I assume there's no harm in me only transferring across only the app data to be used with a freshly downloaded version of Angry Birds in order to get the market link restored.

It's all fairly minor stuff, but I'm enjoying the odd bit of tinkering and seeing how things work if that makes sense? I guess that's how we all learn!
Not sure. what about other apps?

You havent used force to sd in titanium? Perhaps your rom has a default install location set somewhere in settings?
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Not sure. what about other apps?

You havent used force to sd in titanium? Perhaps your rom has a default install location set somewhere in settings?
Nope. I haven't used force to SD in Titanium.
The smaller apps have been installing immediately to the phone (SD card partition) like they should.

Perhaps it's something to do with the size of the apps? As Angry Birds is quite large in size in comparison to your average app.
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Maybe angry birds is encoded to install directly to SD.
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[QUOTE=danfrance;1891277]There appears to be a lot of confusion about this, how to do it, what it is and how to check it is working.


How do I check it has worked?

Download "quick system info from" the market. It will show you an "a2SD" total size and free space.

If the free space is less than the total, the partition is being used for apps and it is working.[QUOTE]





Titanium Back Up (free) also tells you if a2sd is working. At the bottom of its homescreen there is now 3 horizontal meters, the very bottom one is a2sd, if it doesn't appear, your a2sd is not working.
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Titanium Back Up (free) also tells you if a2sd is working. At the bottom of its homescreen there is now 3 horizontal meters, the very bottom one is a2sd, if it doesn't appear, your a2sd is not working.
Yes true. Is yours accurate? Mine shows an amount of a2sd and I dont even have a2sd anymore.
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Yes true. Is yours accurate? Mine shows an amount of a2sd and I dont even have a2sd anymore.

I think so, I flashed the Firerat patches the other day and couldn't get them to work, Titanium Back Up gave me only Internal and SD readings. I then flashed Darktremor and then there were three. I did wipe Dalvik and a few other caches I'd never heard of though.
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But is the free / used space = to that in QSI?

If so, I'll edit and add it to the FAQ

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But is the free / used space = to that in QSI?

If so, I'll edit and add it to the FAQ

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My figures are accurate to within 100mb, but that's only because Titanium rounds things off to 100's. Sorry no screen shots, maybe someone else will confirm this. My point in the thread was is that it told me at a glance that my a2sd was working. Originally I thought it was working because my low memory warnings weren't appearing, unfortunately I didn't realize that this was because the new ROM was so much smaller than the old one.
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Originally I thought it was working because my low memory warnings weren't appearing, unfortunately I didn't realize that this was because the new ROM was so much smaller than the old one.
You have a 250MB /system partition that your ROM sits within. No matter how small the rom is, it will only make a difference within the system partition.

/data is a completely separate partition. You cannot use /system space as /data space.

Small rom does not mean more space for data / apps etc

so by not realising, you were in fact correct
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Ah of course, when we speak of flashing a ROM, we are in fact flashing onto or into RAM.
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Its all one physical drive. It has 3 partitions. Data is your stuff, system is Rom (read only memory) and then cache.

Then there is RAM (random access memory) as a separate unit of flash again
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Dan, I know you say that all apps should be moved from sd to phone before starting the procedure, but what would the consequence of not moving them?

I've got far too many than would fit in phone storage so I was hoping I could restore them to sd after flashing then move them to phone. Not possible?
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Try it, let ys know. Can't see it breaking anything
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Try it, let ys know. Can't see it breaking anything
Done. It was actually easier than I expected, when Titanium restored the apps they were automatically installed to the a2sd partition so I didn't have to move them...almost 60 apps installed and almost 95mb free
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Running with Apps2SD+, I still have these apps appear on the "On SD Card" tab of manage applications:

Angry Birds - 1.90 MB
Tank Recon 3D Lite - 588 KB
androidVNC - 256KB.

Why are these apps on the "sd card" - shouldn't the script always move the apps back to internal storage?

Should I move these back to the phone?!
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Running with Apps2SD+, I still have these apps appear on the "On SD Card" tab of manage applications:

Angry Birds - 1.90 MB
Tank Recon 3D Lite - 588 KB
androidVNC - 256KB.

Why are these apps on the "sd card" - shouldn't the script always move the apps back to internal storage?

Should I move these back to the phone?!
No the script doesn't move them from sd. The script is older than froyo, so it wasn't possible to move them to sd at the time anyway.

Yes you should move them back to internal.

What Rom are you on? Perhaps you have an install location set?

On cyanogen based roms, you cam set internal, external or default. If apps are coded to external, then you may have to change from default to internal.

If you don't have this, just double check apps when you install them


Edit. Or do the pm installlocation back to internal memory as per the undo of Williamj thread
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