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Old December 17th, 2010, 07:55 AM   #101 (permalink)
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how can I prevent widgets to be installed on the sd card?

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When you say SD card, are you refering to the standard Froyo method of moving apps to SD card, or the App2sd+ method?
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?????????

You mean some apps are shown as installed on SD card rather than the A2SD+ partition? Just move them back to the phone. It depends how the app is coded - some apps are set to install on SD using the FroYo method but that's not the same location as the SD card using for A2SD+.
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When i had stock froyo (a2sd) if i force to be installed on sd, the widget wont work. is this the same with a2sd+ ??
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When i had stock froyo (a2sd) if i force to be installed on sd, the widget wont work. is this the same with a2sd+ ??
No.

SD EXT is seen as internal memory. Everything operates as if it is internal memory.

even if you mount your SD card in Windows, it doesnt unmount SD EXT so the apps can still be used.
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Hi Dan and others,
I am begining to muster up courage to move to a custom ROM, but have a few queries:
I have a debranded Orange phone (goldcard used) with stock HTC Froyo. Do I need to Unlock (Sim) my phone for the initial rooting process??

I have a gold card but would like to use a bigger card for the A2SD+ features, should I make it a Goldcard as well or can I flash my rom with the original Goldcard and use the new formatted card after flashing for daily use.

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I am begining to muster up courage to move to a custom ROM, but have a few queries:
I have a debranded Orange phone (goldcard used) with stock HTC Froyo. Do I need to Unlock (Sim) my phone for the initial rooting process??

I have a gold card but would like to use a bigger card for the A2SD+ features, should I make it a Goldcard as well or can I flash my rom with the original Goldcard and use the new formatted card after flashing for daily use.

grateful for all advice
You don't have to use the goldcard when flashing. It's just a backup for recovery purposes.

You don't need to unlock the phone but with Orange it might be best to remove the sim during the rooting process.
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You don't have to use the goldcard when flashing. It's just a backup for recovery purposes.

You don't need to unlock the phone but with Orange it might be best to remove the sim during the rooting process.
Thanks Dan, will do, I am hoping to use the Leedroid rom v2.3. I am on 2.2 stock HTC, is there any thing that I need to be careful about in particular during the process??
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I know I need to root 1st but do I do the 5 steps Apps2SD thing beofre or after I've installed my new ROM?
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1) Backup your SD card contents to your PC
2) Install ROM manager from the Market.
3) In ROM manager, click "Flash Clockworkmod recovery"
4) Choose "Partition SD Card", select size as 512MB, Swap = 0
5) now you just need to flash your ROM with a2SD+ support.
The first one you can do before rooting, but you need to be rooted before you can do any of the others. The last one is the installation of the new ROM
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Thanks Dan, will do, I am hoping to use the Leedroid rom v2.3. I am on 2.2 stock HTC, is there any thing that I need to be careful about in particular during the process??
I haven't installed Leedroid myself. Just the usual things to be careful of. You may need to do a wipe.

If you're going to Leedroid from an Orange branded rom, I believe Eris Ed has done this, so he may have some pointers...
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2) Install ROM manager from the Market.
3) In ROM manager, click "Flash Clockworkmod recovery"
4) Choose "Partition SD Card", select size as 512MB, Swap = 0
5) now you just need to flash your ROM with a2SD+ support.


The first one you can do before rooting, but you need to be rooted before you can do any of the others. The last one is the installation of the new ROM
How do I backup the the SD card, with Titanium backup?

The only i don't want to REALLY lose is my Angry Birds game!
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How do I backup the the SD card, with Titanium backup?

The only i don't want to REALLY lose is my Angry Birds game!
If you need to backup only Angrybirds:

Titanium Backup>Filter:Angry>Backup>
Click on the file and choose backup.
Now copy the folder TitaniumBackup from sdcard to pc
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If you need to backup only Angrybirds:

Titanium Backup>Filter:Angry>Backup>
Click on the file and choose backup.
Now copy the folder TitaniumBackup from sdcard to pc
Thanks.

I want to backup the whole SD card cos that seems to be the thing to do before I install a ROM but backing up Angry Birds is vital

So I use Titanium to backup the whole SD card before I flash the ROM?
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Hmm..
Ti is used to backup applications and data, including optionally all system data. It creates files in the folder TitaniumBackup in the sdcard

If you want to backup the sdcard, just copy all the files/folders to the pc. If it includes the above folder, you can restore all apps on your new rom too
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Ti is used to backup applications and data, including optionally all system data. It creates files in the folder TitaniumBackup in the sdcard

If you want to backup the sdcard, just copy all the files/folders to the pc. If it includes the above folder, you can restore all apps on your new rom too
So run Titanium, backup the files to the SD card & then basically just mount the phone as a disc drive & copy everything to the PC?
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So run Titanium, backup the files to the SD card & then basically just mount the phone as a disc drive & copy everything to the PC?
Yup..
Also, do a Nandroid backup too be safe, and these backup files are in folder Clockworkmod\backup\. Copy these also to hard disk to be safe.
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Also, do a Nandroid backup too be safe, and these backup files are in folder Clockworkmod\backup\. Copy these also to hard disk to be safe.
How do you do that?

Sorry I know I'm being thick
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How do you do that?

Sorry I know I'm being thick
Connect the phone to a computer. Select disc drive mode. Copy the files

Or did you mean the nandroid? Boot into recovery (reboot phone while holding volume down key down). When you get bootloader screen, use volume key to select "recovery" (follow instructions on screen). In recovery, scroll down to "backup and restore" (can now use trackpad), select, select "backup", leave it to do its thing, then reboot phone when it gives you the option at the end.
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Connect the phone to a computer. Select disc drive mode. Copy the files
Maybe he was asking about how to make Nand backup.

I'm assuming you're rooted.
Power off phone
Hold down Vol- .
Now press Power button keeping Vol- pressed. Keep them pressed until display turns on
Now Vol- to select Recovery
Press Power button once more to Select
Now you've entered Clockworkmod.
Choose Backup and Restore>Backup

After backing up, copy that folder Clockworkmod which will appear in Sdcard
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Yeah, that occurred to me just after I hit "save" - hence the edit above.
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Yeah, that occurred to me just after I hit "save" - hence the edit above.
lol..We were probably typing it out at the same time.
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Thanks chaps.

Just gonna have a look around for a ROM over the next day or two & then take the plunge - again!
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I haven't installed Leedroid myself. Just the usual things to be careful of. You may need to do a wipe.

If you're going to Leedroid from an Orange branded rom, I believe Eris Ed has done this, so he may have some pointers...
Thanks Dan,
followed the instructions, and got my phone rooted; flased with Leedroid ROM and can confirm have A2SD+ working well.
Feels great to be liberated!!!!!
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followed the instructions, and got my phone rooted; flased with Leedroid ROM and can confirm have A2SD+ working well.
Feels great to be liberated!!!!!
Cheers all
Which instructions did you follow?
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followed the instructions, and got my phone rooted; flased with Leedroid ROM and can confirm have A2SD+ working well.
Feels great to be liberated!!!!!
Cheers all
And..the cycle begins..
It's a good start..A2SD+, better than Froyo.
But soon you'll seek more, will run out of space (Murphy's Law)..
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I'm sure you're right, Droidzone, but for now I have about 250 megs and I'm hoping Data2sd or Data2ext get stable before it's necessary to take the next step.
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I'm sure you're right, Droidzone, but for now I have about 250 megs and I'm hoping Data2sd or Data2ext get stable before it's necessary to take the next step.
Data2SD is stable, but installation is not very easy. Data2Ext is definitely not stable. Your approach is right. I wasnt suggesting you try them at the moment. But there was a time when A2SD+ used to be enough for me.
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I have Desire with latest 6.1.1 Cyanogen. I did the steps as described, only I have RA recovery instead of Clockworkmod which doesn't work well. But the steps are the same, I did choose 0MB Swap and 512MB ext but when I (re)flash the Cyanogen mod what I get is this:


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Now I did all the steps again, a reflashed Cyanogen ROM, but what I got is again the same as shown. My A2SD storage is always 33,60 MB total? Why is that?
SD card is 8GB, and the size after making 512MB partition is correct, why the OS is showing 33,60 only?
I just can't get free space in my Internal storage which is only 151MB total?!

Is there a way to fix all that mess? Thank you in advance.
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I have Desire with latest 6.1.1 Cyanogen. I did the steps as described, only I have RA recovery instead of Clockworkmod which doesn't work well. But the steps are the same, I did choose 0MB Swap and 512MB ext but when I (re)flash the Cyanogen mod what I get is this:


Now I did all the steps again, a reflashed Cyanogen ROM, but what I got is again the same as shown. My A2SD storage is always 33,60 MB total? Why is that?
SD card is 8GB, and the size after making 512MB partition is correct, why the OS is showing 33,60 only?
I just can't get free space in my Internal storage which is only 151MB total?!

Is there a way to fix all that mess? Thank you in advance.
Remove partition and format in gparted. Then repartition in gparted
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Any windows (7) software capable of doing it?
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Boot into a gparted live cd. Everything else Is second rate.
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This may have been answered already and tried to read everything in the thread but may have missed it:

So, when I do a Full Factory Wipe or Wipe Davlik Cache, does this leave my apps installed on the ext alone? Wiping doesn't affect the sdcard at all does it?

So, when I flash a new rom or kernel after a full wipe, are my apps still sitting there with their respective Davlik Cache's intact? So if I do a full re-install from Titanium I will have two copies of my apps? Is this gonna cause a problem?

Confusing.
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Factory reset will wipe /data.. All your apps and Dalvik cache are on EXT which is an extension of /data so everything will be wiped.

You can always format sd-ext via recovery anyway.
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Is the only reason for moving all the apps to the phone before you do the partition is cos the SD card will be wiped?

So if you have a backup of the card with Titanium it doesn't matter as the apps can all be reinstalled anyway?
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Is the only reason for moving all the apps to the phone before you do the partition is cos the SD card will be wiped?

So if you have a backup of the card with Titanium it doesn't matter as the apps can all be reinstalled anyway?
The partition is an extension of internal memory. Do apps need to be on internal memory to take advantage of it.

I'm not sure if you take a titanium and restore on new Rom, they may all go to internal. If some are still on sd, you can move them back
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The partition is an extension of internal memory. Do apps need to be on internal memory to take advantage of it.

I'm not sure if you take a titanium and restore on new Rom, they may all go to internal. If some are still on sd, you can move them back
So I guess if they won't all fit I'll have to back them up with Titanium, delete a few, do the partition, flash the ROM & then put them back on with the backup?
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You'll probably be wiping anyways
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You'll probably be wiping anyways
That's what I was thinking.

So long as they are all backed up that's the main thing.

I only have 30 odd apps at the mo so if worst came to worst & it went pear shaped I'd just download them again.
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Titanium will definitely capture them, so you wont have to resort to that
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Remove partition and format in gparted. Then repartition in gparted
Well now it became really interesting to watch what is happening with my storage. I didn't do anything as I'm waiting for the weekend to have more time to 'play'. But When I checked the info about memory status the A2SD now shows 99,69 (33,60 before) total MB, and 53,49 Free. Internal total is 151 as it was with about 20MB free (After I moved all SD capable apps to SD manually - with native Froyo option bwah). System is 250 total with 126MB free... and so on.

Now how come that A2SD storage goes from 33,60MB total to 99,69MB ttl without me doing anything (not even rebooting the phone in between the readings?)
Is the quick system info app reliable enough for these kind of info?

I'm coming from the old (first) Samsung Galaxy which had 8GB internal storage and some 1GB or more for apps and I never come even close to fill the all the space available and now in few days of having Desire I'm stuck in the way I can't even install all the apps I had on the old Galaxy and that were not NFS or navigation or whatever are the big fancy space-eating apps...
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Well now it became really interesting to watch what is happening with my storage. I didn't do anything as I'm waiting for the weekend to have more time to 'play'. But When I checked the info about memory status the A2SD now shows 99,69 (33,60 before) total MB, and 53,49 Free. Internal total is 151 as it was with about 20MB free (After I moved all SD capable apps to SD manually - with native Froyo option bwah). System is 250 total with 126MB free... and so on.

Now how come that A2SD storage goes from 33,60MB total to 99,69MB ttl without me doing anything (not even rebooting the phone in between the readings?)
Is the quick system info app reliable enough for these kind of info?

I'm coming from the old (first) Samsung Galaxy which had 8GB internal storage and some 1GB or more for apps and I never come even close to fill the all the space available and now in few days of having Desire I'm stuck in the way I can't even install all the apps I had on the old Galaxy and that were not NFS or navigation or whatever are the big fancy space-eating apps...

Sorry, getting confused by the comma's

Can you give me it in whole numbers please?

Are you saying total size of partition was 33MB and now is 99MB? How much of that 99MB is free?

A screenshot would really help clear up the issue.
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Sorry, getting confused by the comma's

Can you give me it in whole numbers please?

Are you saying total size of partition was 33MB and now is 99MB? How much of that 99MB is free?

A screenshot would really help clear up the issue.
Sorry because of comma's, here are the screenshots: LINK

One additional thing I did is that I manually moved all the apps 2 SD (Froyo option) but that didin't affect the free internal storage space much.

P.S. If you are having trouble seeing the gallery please inform me. Thank you.
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Sorry because of comma's, here are the screenshots: LINK

One additional thing I did is that I manually moved all the apps 2 SD (Froyo option) but that didin't affect the free internal storage space much.

P.S. If you are having trouble seeing the gallery please inform me. Thank you.
bah, the link takes me to my own picasa profile.
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bah, the link takes me to my own picasa profile.
I really don't get it, I copy/paste the 'share' link.

OK let's try this:

1st image

2nd image

The internal forum image inserting over web link doesn't work for me so I hope this finally works.
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Thats really odd. Not sure what to say. Would be worth double checking in GPARTED if the partitions are correct. I can't even think of a reason for that.
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I know I'm being thick here but just to clarify after I've done the backups & I'm ready to do the partition for apps2sd+ before flashing the ROM, all apps have to be moved to the internal memory?

I can't really get my head around why if both the sd card & the phone get wiped as part of the procedure & everything is backed up?
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Because at the time is writing I wasn't sure of the effects for one. Also if no wipe required, all is in place.

Just do whatever and ill post you some fairy dust. This will make all Ok
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Because at the time is writing I wasn't sure of the effects for one. Also if no wipe required, all is in place.

Just do whatever and ill post you some fairy dust. This will make all Ok
Haha you missed that bit out
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