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Old December 3rd, 2010, 11:40 AM   #51 (permalink)
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dont put the clock over 1152
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Old December 3rd, 2010, 11:48 AM   #52 (permalink)
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This is a bit of an Anticlimax..

My Phone suddenly started developing Force Closes after a reboot. Not sure what made it behave like that. Maybe the Sync-Off, or the class 2 Card..

Wiping and trying again..
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I get that sometimes after flashing things.

I find if I flash a kernel (or a few in a row maybe) that eventually it all f*cks up.

I have to wipe data and Advanced restore>SD-ext via Nandroid
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How do you explain it?

A ROM which works perfectly well for 10-15 reboots suddenly goes loony!

I hadnt made a Nandroid of this one since I wasnt sure it would work..

So I've wiped everything..
Dont have a Nandroid ext to restore..
Dont I have to erase the ext file on FAT32..Since it's invisible, how do I do that? Format sdcard? Or will it work only for Partition1?

What steps to be repeated to reinstall Data2SD on a system which was previously on DATA2SD, but wiped? No Nandroid available..
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Its not the rom. Its the Partition. It must be the mounting / unmounting of it. It gets corrupt quite easily.


Mine is stable as hell, until I want to flash something, then sometimes, I have to do a lot of work to recover it.
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Edited the previous post.. Can you suggest a solution without doing the whole procedure all over again? Wish I'd installed Amon-Ra..It was good for partitioning..
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Whatever it was, it corrupted my Recovery.. I did a Fastboot Flash of Clockworkmod..But it still keeps looping at the Joker's image..
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you still can droidzone
you have s-off right?
in fastboot do:
fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-desire-v2.0.1.img

get it from here
xda-developers - View Single Post - [Recovery] [14-Nov-2010] RA-desire-v2.0.0 [GSM]

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what version of clockwork were you using if it was 2.5.1.2 then its a bad egg.
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you still can droidzone
you have s-off right?
in fastboot do:
fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-desire-v2.0.1.img

get it from here
xda-developers - View Single Post - [Recovery] [14-Nov-2010] RA-desire-v2.0.0 [GSM]

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what version of clockwork were you using if it was 2.5.1.2 then its a bad egg.
Nopes, it was the latest version of Clockwork mod..
Tried Amon Ra too..
Nothing..The image flashed ok, but looping at the joker again while going to recovery.
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There's a good flashing app on xda. I used it to fastboot flash 2.5.0.7

Not had any recovery issues with dat2sd though
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There's a good flashing app on xda. I used it to fastboot flash 2.5.0.7

Not had any recovery issues with dat2sd though
What should I search for? Keywords/Link? ..It's not turning up in my searches..
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Sorry..Forgot that you're in the office..
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Nopes, it was the latest version of Clockwork mod..
Tried Amon Ra too..
Nothing..The image flashed ok, but looping at the joker again while going to recovery.
latest one is 2.5.1.2
its a baddy

hmmm you can get clockwork recovery 2.5.0.7 from here
[AlphaRev] Public release S-OFF HTC Desire GSM - xda-developers

flashing tool if you want to do it with a gui can be found here
[UTILITY] 1-click Android Flasher(Recovery, splash1, Radio, HBOOT)[V1.5.5](UPD!) - xda-developers
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latest one is 2.5.1.2
its a baddy

hmmm you can get clockwork recovery 2.5.0.7 from here
[AlphaRev] Public release S-OFF HTC Desire GSM - xda-developers

flashing tool if you want to do it with a gui can be found here
[UTILITY] 1-click Android Flasher(Recovery, splash1, Radio, HBOOT)[V1.5.5](UPD!) - xda-developers
Oops..Forgive my ignorance..My Clockwork was 2.5.0.7. Tried reflashing that, no use. Reflashed the Hboot from alpharev..nothing again

That link gives a gui..Was using the same commands via shell..

I need something stronger..Would using alpharev again help? Or would it brick?
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im not sure how redoing alpharev will work
I have a feeling this is something else and you wont like it.

Ive seen this behaviour when the SDcard is corrupted.
try a different sdcard and see if you can boot to recovery

You could try booting into recovery without an SDCARD at all
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Default [FIXED] Alpharev Joker Loop - Recovery corrupted

Tried switching sdcard too, nothing would work..
Finally fixed it..

What's with my phone and bricking? I seem to be a lightning rod for it! Had a harrowing time, but finally fixed it..

What I tried:
1. As suggested by Alpharev:
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-2.5.0.7-bravo.img
fastboot reboot-recovery

It wrote fine, but again the Joker looped..

2. Tried flashing Amon-ra by above method, didnt work.

Which led me to think something other than Recovery was corrupted. So I flashed my Nandroid backup created earlier by the following steps. Hopefully it will help someone else who gets the Alpharev Joker Loop.

3. Copied my Nandroid backup files (*.img) to Tools folder
Then,
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash cache cache.img
fastboot flash data data.img (This one failed: FAILED (remote: partition does not exist!)

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot

It rebooted and got me into Android home, then promptly restarted..Which meant half the problem is over. Tried to get into recovery again, but Joker looped.

So, I tried flashing Clockworkmod again:
fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-2.5.0.7-bravo.img

fastboot shutdown
fastboot reboot-bootloader

It worked! I got back my recovery

I didnt see these instructions anywhere..Just intuition. Still worked.. Thanks, Rastaman-FB and Dan, for pointing me in the right direction!
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thats mental
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Eh? It worked, didnt it?
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yeah, i wasnt aware the other images would affect recovery.
must have been the boot.img still though thats borked
i wonder whether it was the flash of s-off that caused the issue.
had you tried to access recovery since s-off prior to this problem?

eitherway thank fk for s-off tbh other alternative would have been good ol RUU
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yeah, i wasnt aware the other images would affect recovery.
must have been the boot.img still though thats borked
i wonder whether it was the flash of s-off that caused the issue.
had you tried to access recovery since s-off prior to this problem?

eitherway thank fk for s-off tbh other alternative would have been good ol RUU
Yes, on countless occasions since I was experimenting with Data2SD..There never was a problem getting into Recovery after Alpharev. I know they've documented it, but dont know why it stayed low for so long.

And they've said about Recovery getting corrupted, nothing about Boot getting corrupted.

..But have a mixed experience with RUUs. The only one for my branded Indian device was an old version. Last time I didnt have a goldcard, and I got an SLCD brick after flashing the Indian RUU.

Couldnt recover.
Took it to HTC, they replaced the SLCD and gave me an AMOLED Desire..Hence thankful for the brick for my awesome AMOLED display..

Still I'm scared of RUUs..Anyway I'd have to use the WWE and change the CID if I did that.
Thanks to S-OFF. Else I'd have been stuck!
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Ours is not to reason why. Ours is but to flash and die
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lol..
But not without a fight..
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but surely now you have a gold card, so you can use any ruu as long as its the same or higher than the current
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but surely now you have a gold card, so you can use any ruu as long as its the same or higher than the current
That's true..But you know what.. I tried running the Ruu as rom.zip/PB99IMG.zip from card, and it wouldnt get recognized.. The file is supposed to be picked up by fastboot, but it wasnt.

And RUUs give me weird error messages. It says my battery is <30% when actually it was near fully charged.
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lol you are just unlucky
the pb99img.zip must be extracted from the installer, i had a friend who was telling me they couldnt flash it and he actually zipped the exe and put it on the sdcard.
sufficed to say this didnt work lol.
also people have not noticed it was actually called pb99img.zip.zip due to windows hiding the extention
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lol you are just unlucky
the pb99img.zip must be extracted from the installer, i had a friend who was telling me they couldnt flash it and he actually zipped the exe and put it on the sdcard.
sufficed to say this didnt work lol.
also people have not noticed it was actually called pb99img.zip.zip due to windows hiding the extention
Yup..Covered that..Got the zip from the exe by monitoring the Temp, and did rename it correctly, coz I did that within Linux, and Linux isnt as stupid as Windows that way..

Still no idea..So when I actually will need an RUU in future, dunno what to do!
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droidzone, you know how earlier i said there might be something different about your device

are you pvt-3 or pvt-4
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Yes indeed.
I'm PVT-3
By the way, today I was able to successfully flash the latest WWE RUU. Apparently my goldcard partition was defective. Once I formatted it as FAT32 once again, and put the PB99IMG.zip, it went through..

BUT..
Since then, the Android OS itself keeps rebooting. At times it loads ok, then if I go to Android Market and install something, after it says "Starting to download", it reboots immediately. Then immediately, there is a boot loop before the HTC Briliant screen. Then the phone becomes inoperable until I flash the zip again. Again the whole thing repeats..

Starting to think there's a hardware issue in it.. Maybe something to do with the AMOLED/board they recently installed..

At the moment, I'm trying to downgrade with Teppic's downgrade tool..
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Yes indeed.
I'm PVT-3
By the way, today I was able to successfully flash the latest WWE RUU. Apparently my goldcard partition was defective. Once I formatted it as FAT32 once again, and put the PB99IMG.zip, it went through..

BUT..
Since then, the Android OS itself keeps rebooting. At times it loads ok, then if I go to Android Market and install something, after it says "Starting to download", it reboots immediately. Then immediately, there is a boot loop before the HTC Briliant screen. Then the phone becomes inoperable until I flash the zip again. Again the whole thing repeats..

Starting to think there's a hardware issue in it.. Maybe something to do with the AMOLED/board they recently installed..

At the moment, I'm trying to downgrade with Teppic's downgrade tool..
that sounds like hardware to me mate, lets just hope they dont replace it with a pvt-4 board
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Well it definitely did downgrade the Hboot to 0.83.001 but the reboot immediately after the flash started giving the weird bootloop again!

Why would a successful RUU flash result in bootloop?? Stumped!
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If the hardware is dodgy, software won't fix
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i dont think it did, i think its coincidence. i think you got other stuff going on there.
probably the same reason it corrupted itself the otherday.
again now you ar at stock try a different sdcard.
you still keep getting it then its back to HTC for you im afraid.
theres no reason to get any odd behaviour after an RUU
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It definitely seems to be back to HTC..And it definitely seems to be hardware issue..

Teppic's tool worked flawlessly..I've gone down to Hboot 0.83..

I'd taken the device to HTC and shown it to then..They just tried flashing it, and guess what..Flash error..I suspect it's the CID error..I was on HTC__038 (branded)..but then ran the WWE RUU..

So I took the phone back..Since the only RUU for my region available on the net is 1.21.720, I had to downgrade..Now that Teppic has done it, I'll just flash the Indian RUU and take it back on Monday for repair..

The Service centre was a new one, and when I submitted it last month with an SLCD brick (Incompatible RUU flash), they first diagnosed Display problem, then board problem..Finally after a month, replaced both..Now got an AMOLED..

The technician hinted that CID change would lead to voiding of warranty, so I have to flash the 1.21.720 and take it back.. I was looking forward to using it.. Sigh..
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well you managed to downgrade so you sould be able to flash the correct RUU
once done they have no argument although some people have sent devices to HTC rooted and rommed up and HTC have fixed it due to it being a hardware issue and not software.
i suppose its the osi moddle though. 1st level of support is application/software
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well you managed to downgrade so you sould be able to flash the correct RUU
once done they have no argument although some people have sent devices to HTC rooted and rommed up and HTC have fixed it due to it being a hardware issue and not software.
i suppose its the osi moddle though. 1st level of support is application/software
How on earth did they make a Rooting issue appear to be hardware issue..Actually HTC has very recently added a clause to the warranty disclaimer stating that software issues are excluded..wont be repaired..

But since the warranty on paper supplied with the device leaves that clause out..They wont have grounds to refuse service..at least legally.

Still I decided not to take any chances.. I didnt want them arguing over it..And these people apparently dont even know that a device's CID can be changed..
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no what im saying is they had hardware problems so htc fixed it regardless of it being rooted and having a custom rom on it
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Ah that makes 'Sense'

Done..Flashed back the Indian Rom..And it's now Hboot 0.82..
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i feel bad for you man, just as you got your mouth watering with these juicy hacks it does this to you
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Yup..And the AMOLED too..Am afraid that may not be there when the phone comes back..
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lol it was just a teaser for you :/

You shoud put a note on the thread that most of the conversation in this post is not due to failure of the data2sd setup but a hardware failure of the device itself

we dont want to needlessly scare people out of trying something potentially being one of the biggest things since desire came out
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You're right.. Will do that..
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It was inevitable..And now it's out there!

DATA2SD Script

And the latest AuraxTsense has been released with built in DATA2EXT.. So pretty soon, the manual coding will be extinct!

AuraxTsense
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its still data2ext
also ontop of this its using simlink rather than siberes method so you dont see the internal memory rise to what ever amount your ext container is.

this is a cleaner and safer method however i feel its not perfected
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its still data2ext
also ontop of this its using simlink rather than siberes method so you dont see the internal memory rise to what ever amount your ext container is.

this is a cleaner and safer method however i feel its not perfected
Hmm..So DATA2EXT was around earlier?

It definitely seems to be safer and faster, judging by the Quadrant scores put up by ppl..

So how much Internal memory does it show for you?
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Hmm..So DATA2EXT was around earlier?

It definitely seems to be safer and faster, judging by the Quadrant scores put up by ppl..

So how much Internal memory does it show for you?
data2ext was around for about a week now, ownhere made one that was dangerous and corrupted sdcards badly.
this guy has worked on those issues and made it stable however there doesnt seem to be evidence of it being faster and safer than siberes

sibere explained why in that thread in the way it unmounts, also the fact it mounts as loop back to a file in a partition rather than a physical ext partition only the file/container would become corrupted instead of the hole partition and sdcard.
on top of that the reason why siberes is slower is because hes using sync by default
this doesnt use sync, you can also turn off sync on data2sd and people get between 2200 and 2700 quadrant scores.

I havent toyed with it yet personally, he says himself it doesnt show a value as it just stays at 142mb and doesnt shrink.
im going to let these devs battle it out untill we get perfection.
there is one thing i do know: i will not touch any roms that have ownheres data2ext script in it.

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when i see cleaner safer im refering to ownheres data2ext as siberes method seems pretty solid, its just harder to do
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data2ext was around for about a week now, ownhere made one that was dangerous and corrupted sdcards badly.
this guy has worked on those issues and made it stable however there doesnt seem to be evidence of it being faster and safer than siberes

sibere explained why in that thread in the way it unmounts, also the fact it mounts as loop back to a file in a partition rather than a physical ext partition only the file/container would become corrupted instead of the hole partition and sdcard.
on top of that the reason why siberes is slower is because hes using sync by default
this doesnt use sync, you can also turn off sync on data2sd and people get between 2200 and 2700 quadrant scores.

I havent toyed with it yet personally, he says himself it doesnt show a value as it just stays at 142mb and doesnt shrink.
im going to let these devs battle it out untill we get perfection.
there is one thing i do know: i will not touch any roms that have ownheres data2ext script in it.

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when i see cleaner safer im refering to ownheres data2ext as siberes method seems pretty solid, its just harder to do
Hmm..I was thinking of trying one of the Neophyte ROMs with DATA2EXT when I get back my phone early next week.

I really needed to know a couple of points..I couldnt follow that thread as closely as I wanted, and now it's hard to keep track!

Please tell me:
Are there any differences in the way we use nandroid backup usually, in DATA2SD, and DATA2EXT.Do we need to do anything in particular to do a Nandroid restore, like copying any files manually to the sdcard?
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yes a huge difference in the backup
data2sd will backup the full ext file even if its empty so say you have a 1gb ext file due to the second fat32 partition then it will be 1gb+ in size

if you have data2ext then it around the size of a2sd+ as it can read the files

this post confirms my suspicions that the ownhere etc were a bit naughty and made assumptions causing problems.
[DEV] Solution to MASSIVLY improve I/O (real life not quadrant) + lag fix - xda-developers

it annoys me that ownheres hacked script that was from sibere that was also faulty got a front page spread on xda
New Hack for Desire and Nexus One: data2ext | xda-developers
yet sibere you found it and has a more stable option doesnt even get a mention.
dangerous games
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yes a huge difference in the backup
data2sd will backup the full ext file even if its empty so say you have a 1gb ext file due to the second fat32 partition then it will be 1gb+ in size

if you have data2ext then it around the size of a2sd+ as it can read the files

this post confirms my suspicions that the ownhere etc were a bit naughty and made assumptions causing problems.
[DEV] Solution to MASSIVLY improve I/O (real life not quadrant) + lag fix - xda-developers

it annoys me that ownheres hacked script that was from sibere that was also faulty got a front page spread on xda
New Hack for Desire and Nexus One: data2ext | xda-developers
yet sibere you found it and has a more stable option doesnt even get a mention.
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Wow..Seems like everyone's busy..Sibere set the ball rolling and now so many branches..Guess ultimately, it will all do good for the Desire..

A shame that Google couldnt have done it themselves!
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ultimately it will benefit all
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Got my brand new Desire today..They replaced the old one.

Anyway, tried Neophyte's latest DATA2EXT Rom, and hated it. Not sure whether it is the DATA2EXT or the Rom itself. But reboots and shutdowns were taking close to forever..

So trying Leedroid 2.3a Non A2SD+Sibere DATA2SD..
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