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Old December 15th, 2010, 10:54 AM   #101 (permalink)
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I'm still on data2sd. Stable as ever.

Only issues I have are sometimes I have to restore SD-EXT after flashing a new rom, due to corruption. But never corrupts in normal use.

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I'm still on data2sd. Stable as ever.

Only issues I have are sometimes I have to restore SD-EXT after flashing a new rom, due to corruption. But never corrupts in normal use.
Dan,
Can you clarify the steps to go about while doing a Nandroid Backup, ROM install, and Nandroid Restore; while using DATA2SD?

Is there a difference from how we used to do it?

And specifically, suppose I backed up Nandroid of a ROM using DATA2SD, and then used a NonDATA2SD Rom (with A2SD+), would I be correct in doing the foll:

  • Backup Nandroid of the A2SD+ based ROM.
  • Change the 2nd partition (ext partition) back to FAT32, Format it;
  • Nandroid Restore the DATA2SD partition.
Is that all?
Or should we NOT do the regular Nandroid Restore, and do an advanced individual restore, omitting something?
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Assuming you already have data2sd set up...


Download new rom.

Put busybox and 01data in relevant place.

Usual pre flash nandroid backup.

Flash rom. Thats it.

However, if you have any issues with data, in clockwork...

Backup and restore>Advanced restore>SD-EXT
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Assuming you already have data2sd set up...


Download new rom.

Put busybox and 01data in relevant place.

Usual pre flash nandroid backup.

Flash rom. Thats it.

However, if you have any issues with data, in clockwork...

Backup and restore>Advanced restore>SD-EXT
Excellent..
And if I change my memory card?
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Excellent..
And if I change my memory card?
Assuming you have already got a data2sd rom:

Insert Card

Mount as Mass Storage in recovery

Partition as required

Adb shell

mount /sdcard

may need -
mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /sd-ext

dd if=/dev/zero of=/sd-ext/ext2 bs=1048576


then unmount, and restore in recovery

Backup and restore>Advanced restore>SD-EXT




That should be it. Just need to recreate the ext file on fat 32 and restore data to it.

I will be doing this shortly, but that should be all that is needed.
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I'm getting a weird error in Step 3.
Trying
adb push c:\busybox-armv6l /system/xbin/busybox

Getting:
C:\Software\htc\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb push c:\busybox-armv6l /system/xbi
n/busybox
failed to copy 'c:\busybox-armv6l' to '/system/xbin/busybox': No space left on d
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No I'm sorry. Missed a couple of steps.
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I'm getting a weird error in Step 3.
Trying
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Getting:
C:\Software\htc\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb push c:\busybox-armv6l /system/xbi
n/busybox
failed to copy 'c:\busybox-armv6l' to '/system/xbin/busybox': No space left on d
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You mounted /system?
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Yes I did. Something's up with busybox. It's not allowing me to copy busybox to /system/xbin..

Other commands are working fine.
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To make ext4, what mods would I need to make in the following commands:

dd if=/dev/zero of=/sd-ext/ext2 bs=1048576
/system/xbin/busybox mke2fs -m 0 -F -L userdata /sd-ext/ext2

Do I replace both highlighted parts? Anything else?
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I have no idea on that. Sibere has not yet fully detailed that one (although I read today he will be doing so shortly).

I still use ext2
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I have no idea on that. Sibere has not yet fully detailed that one (although I read today he will be doing so shortly).

I still use ext2
Couldnt get over that error ("No space left"). Ended up leaving DATA2SD, for AuraxTSense with DATA2EXT..

After the first couple of reboots, the ROM works perfectly. Very few problems. A reboot occured while restoring Titanium apps even w/o data. Dont know what that was about..

Anyway, got bored of it, and installed the new ReflexTsense HD.. One word.. Wow! The ROM is just awesome.. No 720p vids..But otherwise, the experience is heavenly!
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Someone suggested you put busybox in Rom and flash. Try that?
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Someone suggested you put busybox in Rom and flash. Try that?
I did. Then I got the other msg about busybox which I posted at XDA:

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Trying the foll in recovery:
adb push c:\busybox-armv6l /system/xbin/busybox

Getting:
C:\Software\htc\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb push c:\busybox-armv6l /system/xbi
n/busybox 
failed to copy 'c:\busybox-armv6l' to '/system/xbin/busybox': No space left on device
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I forgot to mention that the version I'd flashed was old..Does not support the mk2fs function, or at least that was what mk2fs told me. Hence I flashed the busybox zip, then tried putting Sibere's newer busybox on top with adb push.

By the way, where does Leedroid install busybox? I couldnt find it in /system/xbin
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I'm still on data2sd. Stable as ever.

Only issues I have are sometimes I have to restore SD-EXT after flashing a new rom, due to corruption. But never corrupts in normal use.
You have sync on?
What about swap?

I'm facing boot loops with both d2sd and d2xt..
Tired of repairing it constantly
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No Sync, no Swap.

Some roms don't work with data2sd.
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No Sync, no Swap.

Some roms don't work with data2sd.
Hmm..
Finally got it stable on Neo's 7.9 A2SD+ version after editing out the 30a2sd.. Having Sync on..

Not one boot error so far.

I think DATA2EXT is dirty code.. Corruptible.. Sibere's is stable.. Only problem is unpredictability of whether the ROM is compatible or not.

Tried Aurax 7.9 A2SD- Works fine
ReflexTsense A2SD-Does not work.

It's a puzzle.
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Indeed.

I only ever use Defrost though (I just love vanilla roms) and its my favourite.
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i did say i dont like the data2ext model, there are certain coders i dont trust on there and none of their work will be put on my phone
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Indeed.

I only ever use Defrost though (I just love vanilla roms) and its my favourite.
Never got around using AOSP Roms..I miss the HTC Sync app..I'm addicted to the Outlook calendar prog, and cannot go about without syncing it at least once a day. Dont like Google Calendar
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i did say i dont like the data2ext model, there are certain coders i dont trust on there and none of their work will be put on my phone
Yes, I seem to remember

Only reason I used it was because I'm a huge fun of Neo's roms, and since there's a version coming with built in DATA2EXT, and b/c I need more Internal space than MTD hacks can give me, I went for it.

Right now, I'm taking Neo's A2SD+ ROMS, manually editing out A2SD script and getting DATA2SD on them. Seems to work fine.
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but the data2ext he uses is ownheres code which is flakey imo
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but the data2ext he uses is ownheres code which is flakey imo
That it is..

Wish there was an easy way to install DATA2SD on Neo's ROMS w/o having to worry about running the code each time though..

Tried Iinga's scripts based on Sibere, but at times it seems to go haywire
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That it is..

Wish there was an easy way to install DATA2SD on Neo's ROMS w/o having to worry about running the code each time though..

Tried Iinga's scripts based on Sibere, but at times it seems to go haywire

Not sure what you're talking about.

Once you have created the ext file on your sd card (on any rom) using Sibere's process, all you need to do is put the busybox and 01data file in any other rom (providing the rom has tested with data2sd as working) and flash it.

If you're going between sense roms, or between AOSP roms, this should be fine.

Its just going from AOSP to sense or vice versa (when you would normally have to wipe) that this may not work. Although I think I have a work around for that (untested)
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Not sure what you're talking about.

Once you have created the ext file on your sd card (on any rom) using Sibere's process, all you need to do is put the busybox and 01data file in any other rom (providing the rom has tested with data2sd as working) and flash it.

If you're going between sense roms, or between AOSP roms, this should be fine.

Its just going from AOSP to sense or vice versa (when you would normally have to wipe) that this may not work. Although I think I have a work around for that (untested)
Uh oh..
So that means I shouldnt have done a Full wipe in b/w installing Roms?
Since a full wipe does wipe out the ext file too..

Guess I missed a lot of discussions from that thread!
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If I factory reset it, it removes the ext - almost as if it no longer exists. Sibere says factory reset only wipes /data, but for me its as if ext doesn't exist

If you use clockworkmod recovery, you can advanced restore/SD-EXT but this of course won't help if you need the wipe as it restores all data which may be incompatible with new rom.

By the way, if you do have to wipe, it may be easier to wipe through titanium (uninstall user and system apps). Then the ext file remains. Flash new rom with busybox and 01data, titanium restore. Worth a try
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If I factory reset it, it removes the ext - almost as if it no longer exists. Sibere says factory reset only wipes /data, but for me its as if ext doesn't exist

If you use clockworkmod recovery, you can advanced restore/SD-EXT but this of course won't help if you need the wipe as it restores all data which may be incompatible with new rom.

By the way, if you do have to wipe, it may be easier to wipe through titanium (uninstall user and system apps). Then the ext file remains. Flash new rom with busybox and 01data, titanium restore. Worth a try
Err..
Slightly confused..
So if I'm installing a new Rom (possibly incompatible with the older one), what do you suggest that I do in Clockwork mod? "Wipe data/Factory reset" or that I use the "Mounts and Storage">format /data, /system, /cache leaving /sd-ext alone?

What is the procedure you follow while using DATA2SD and trying out Roms in between? And if we remove the A2SD script from these and flash the busybox, 01data, and e2fckrcry, and setup permissions for these, that's all that is needed? (To confirm)
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Slightly confused..
So if I'm installing a new Rom (possibly incompatible with the older one), what do you suggest that I do in Clockwork mod? "Wipe data/Factory reset" or that I use the "Mounts and Storage">format /data, /system, /cache leaving /sd-ext alone?
No, neither. I suggested wiping via titanium backup. "Uninstall user and system apps"

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I don't really try out other roms. Really happy with defrost so I only upgrade defrost. Thats why my titanium wipe work around is untested



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And if we remove the A2SD script from these and flash the busybox, 01data, and e2fckrcry, and setup permissions for these, that's all that is needed? (To confirm)

All I do is drop busybox and 01data in the rom zip before flashing the rom (and remove a2sd). Then I flash the rom.

I flash a zip with some apps in it, after I flash rom, so I may integrate this into that
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No, neither. I suggested wiping via titanium backup. "Uninstall user and system apps"
Wow..
Dan, that worked perfectly. Had set up Aurax 7.9 with DATA2SD. Removed all my user apps with data with Ti, and installed Leedroid 2.3 after removing the a2sd+ script and adding Sibere's files. Booted up perfectly. Thanks.
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ReflexTSenseHD v1.4.1 would crash though. acore.process FC. Nothing would fix that. Maybe something in the nature of an HD Rom..

Aurax, Teppic's Rom and Leedroid all seem to work.
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Modded Iinga's DATA2SD update.zip for Support for Aurax..

Now, after wiping/deleting files, and flashing the new A2SD+ Rom, only this zip need to be flashed as update.zip.

No need to remove the A2SD+ support. The script itself does that.
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got 16GB class 10 card for my birthday. I will be partitioning and testing data transfer to it at somepoint in the next week. Will feedback.

Will also test I/O speed sync on and sync off.
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4. Download the following files:
a. e2fsck_recvy.zip (102.52 KB)
b. 01data.txt (394 Bytes)
c. busybox-armv6l (1.01 MB)
d. busybox_signed.zip (602.18 KB) -Download this one only if your ROM does not come with built in busybox support


4.1 Unzip these files (except busybox_signed.zip and 01data.txt. Just copy 01data.txt to C to C:\
Is it just me or is anyone else having problems with unzipping files a & c. Or have I completely got it confused? I've tried WinRar and 7-Zip both come up with error messages when trying to unzip. Please help.
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Is it just me or is anyone else having problems with unzipping files a & c. Or have I completely got it confused? I've tried WinRar and 7-Zip both come up with error messages when trying to unzip. Please help.
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Guess I made a typo there. Unziponly file a.

Here's the link to the original thread by sibere. You can get the files there if there's a problem with my links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852219
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FYI sync off same 2500 quadrant but sync on now around 2000 ish, so that's a little over normal for me with a class 10.

Problem is it should just be as easy as pushing a new 01data with sync on in it, but having problems.

Can only test sync on in command line
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FYI sync off same 2500 quadrant but sync on now around 2000 ish, so that's a little over normal for me with a class 10.

Problem is it should just be as easy as pushing a new 01data with sync on in it, but having problems.

Can only test sync on in command line
What kind of problems? Doesnt the push go through?
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It pushed fine but just wouldn't recognise the EXt file once updated. Initially I redownloaded the 01data from Sibere, but this looks to have changed from when I originally downloaded it.

I then amended my existing one, again same issue.

Managed with doing an entire restore of system and data via nandroid to get it back to before.

However, I worked around it as I have S-off, I mounted init.d as r/w and manually typed sync into 01data.

Rebooted and all seems as expected. Highest quadrant score of 2007, after loads of tests. So that indicates Sync is on for me as usually I would be getting over 2200 and upto 2400 with sync off (on this kernel) and now can get nowehere near that.


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It pushed fine but just wouldn't recognise the EXt file once updated. Initially I redownloaded the 01data from Sibere, but this looks to have changed from when I originally downloaded it.

I then amended my existing one, again same issue.

Managed with doing an entire restore of system and data via nandroid to get it back to before.

However, I worked around it as I have S-off, I mounted init.d as r/w and manually typed sync into 01data.

Rebooted and all seems as expected. Highest quadrant score of 2007, after loads of tests. So that indicates Sync is on for me as usually I would be getting over 2200 and upto 2400 with sync off (on this kernel) and now can get nowehere near that.


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Hmm..Ever had problems with Sync off? I've had boot loops on shutdown with Sync off. Now keeping it on.

However my Class 2 memory card is starting to sulk, so about to order a Class 10.
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If you use the reboot menu when you press power, it doesn't unmount EXT properly (if at all) and yes can cause bootloop/FC on boot/Catastrophic data loss.

This is why I have got a Class 10 so I can use SYNC. Yeah my fake quadrant boost has gone on I/O, but I'm still getting better I/O than if it was on NAND.

I willbe honest, most of the time, it was stable as long as I wasn't using the reboot menu or apps that reboot (rom manager, metamorph etc)..

But normal shutdowns never had a problem.
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If you use the reboot menu when you press power, it doesn't unmount EXT properly (if at all) and yes can cause bootloop/FC on boot/Catastrophic data loss.

This is why I have got a Class 10 so I can use SYNC. Yeah my fake quadrant boost has gone on I/O, but I'm still getting better I/O than if it was on NAND.

I willbe honest, most of the time, it was stable as long as I wasn't using the reboot menu or apps that reboot (rom manager, metamorph etc)..

But normal shutdowns never had a problem.

I've had similar experience with reboot menu. I even wrote in neo's forum and asked him to disable the reboot options in his data2ext option. Apparently, both data2ext and data2sd are siblings when it comes to this.
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I just discovered the easiest way to switch between memory cards while using data2sd. Just right click the ext partition in gparted and copy, then choose new card and paste.
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ha. no way. didn't know that function was there.
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ha. no way. didn't know that function was there.

:-) Typo.. I meant the second fat32 partition of course.
And if u use VMWare, you don't even have to reboot windows to partition the card. :-)
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Yep I have vmware player, but only really use web interface locally.
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Yep I have vmware player, but only really use web interface locally.
I think u need the server edition for this. It's very simple. If I need to partition, I just resume the server from hibernate. Takes only 3 secs and the SD card is immediately loaded by gparted. It's like running the livecd w/o a reboot. All the perks of running a program from windows, wlo the hassle of reboot for livecds.
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Yeah I have a 10 server licence I think. I have virtual servers running at home. I actually have VMware configuration and support on my CV so no worries there
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Yeah I have a 10 server licence I think. I have virtual servers running at home. I actually have VMware configuration and support on my CV so no worries there

Oops.. sorry abt that.
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