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Old April 1st, 2011, 05:14 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I'd recommend a custom rom then. Its the easiest way to go.

If you want sense less and up-to-date, get gingervillain. Its got some nice extra's too.

If you want extra clean, theres oxygen but ive not tried it myself. These are both 2.3 roms. Both stable

got a link for a guide on how to flash a custom rom? looking into using gingervillain 1.8
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rooting FAQ (not guide) in my sig has info on this.
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rooting FAQ (not guide) in my sig has info on this.

Sorry SUroot, maybe im blind but i didnt see the tutorial from the Rooting FAQ thread.

I did find a tutorial from unlockr... and again it seems easy enough.but I got a few question.

when ask to "to Wipe Data, select wipe data/factory reset and then select wipe dalvik cache", all data will be lost right? what is the easiest way to back up? and then how to I restore?

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Flashing a custom rom AND data backup

(from the FAQ not sure how you missed it )

If you didnt see it in the faq, you werent reading th3 faq. You were just looking for something specific. you should read the entire FAQ.

How do I flash a custom ROM?

First, find a rom that you want from here:

Desire Index - Everything Desire is here! [UPDATED: 18/2] [InsertCoin,Cool Z & HD] - xda-developers

It lists all the good roms. Be aware that you already need to be rooted. If you want to use apps2sd+, you will also need to have partitioned your card first. See the apps2sd+ FAQ in my signature.

Be aware that you may need to wipe. However, for stock / HTC sense based roms for the desire (not including ports such aas the desire HD ports), you MAY get away without doing a data wipe. AOSP (vanilla) roms will definitely need a wipe

Its always best to take a nandroid backup of your existing rom. See the Nandroid section further on in this FAQ.

Also you should backup your apps and data. Titanium Backup is a great app for this. However, I also use mybackup pro for sms and call logs, but there are alternatives out there.

If you have to wipe, this is due to an incompatibility with system settings from your old rom. See the wiping section, also further on in this FAQ.

So (based on clockworkmod recovery):

1) download you chosen ROM onto SD card
2) Do all your backups
3) Boot into recovery manually (see recovery section earlier)
4) Choose "wipe data / factory reset"
5) Choose "Install zip from SD card"
6) Once complete, choose "reboot system now"

It can take 10 minutes to boot up first time, so give it this long before taking further action. If it still has not booted, pull out the battery, but ONLY when the boot animation is on. NEVER during a flashing process.

If you can obviously see the boot animation looping, this may be due to the lack of wipe. Pull the battery and boot into recovery and perform the wipe.

Once booted, if you wiped, set up the phone with network and market access and download Titanium again and whatever data restore app you used for sms (if desired).

If you wiped, be careful which option you choose to restore. You dont want to restore system settings, so "restore missing apps with data" is a good one to choose.

Now, enjoy setting up and playing with your phone.
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SUroot, wow I am blind...
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Hi guys

I have an HTC Desire on Orange, and am trying to root it using this guide.

I'm not seeing what it says I should in the device manager though, as per step 5 of the prerequisites:

Expand "Other Devices" in the right-hand pain and locate "Android 1.0 device"

I'm using Vista and don't see an 'other devices' folder. I see one called 'android phone', which contains only a file called 'Android ADB interface', but can find nothing else related to the phone in the device manager.

There's a further folder called 'portable devices' that has 'E:\' in it, but assume that is just the memory card.

I'm totally new to this and really scared of frying my phone, so would appreciate any advice.

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Just to confirm, you're not running android when you are checking are you? You should be in Hboot mode
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arent all desires rootable?
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Wow, thanks for the fast reply!

I'm in Hboot mode, as per the guide. it says its plugged in on the phone screen too
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HBOOT 1.06 is not.
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Wow, thanks for the fast reply!

I'm in Hboot mode, as per the guide. it says its plugged in on the phone screen too

It shows in Other devices if there are no drivers. Once you update the drivers, it shows as "Android Phone" which you already have.

Try updating the drivers on "Android Phone" instead, although it sounds like that step is already somehow complete.
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Thanks for that. I spent ages trying to make a goldcard earlier, and downloaded all sorts of stuff as had problems with almost every guide I tried. So maybe it got updated then? Am I risking anything if I proceed past this step if updating the 'android phone' doesn't work?

I'm so paranoid about breaking the phone and not being able to restore it

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Ok, so I can't update the 'android phone' (no option to), only the 'android adb interface' inside that folder. Shall I do that, or am I going to trash it??
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What you could do to be sure, is delete android phone, and start the hboot driver install again.
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Thanks for all the help - I (think I'm) now rooted.

I have an addition for your FAQ, and a couple more queries if you wouldn't mind asisting again:

1. I can't get terminal emulator to show me my erase size. When I enter cat /proc/mtd I get a 'permission denied' message. Like a fool, I pressed on with running Unrevoked 3.32 from here anyway: How To: Root the HTC Desire (Unrevoked Method) (Updated 1.18.11) | TheUnlockr. It seems to have worked (this guide doesn't even mention erase size, which confused me?!), and I have created and restored a back-up from within rom manager since rooting. Does that mean I'm good to go, or might stuff go wrong still? do I still need to check the erase size? if so, is there another way I can do this other than terminal emulator if so? Sorry, that's a bunch of questions!

2. I have free access to Orange Maps as part of my contract. I'm worried that if I install a custom ROM I'm going to lose my Orange Maps - I found one thread where someone had tried to re-download it from the market after rooting and it said that it wasn't compatible with their device. And I know Google has its own sat-nav equivalent but, for once, I actually prefer the Orange one!

3. For info, when I got the 'is your firmware too new?' message during Unrevoked install, I disabled wifi and disabled 'allow installation of non-market apps' and it then worked fine. Can't remember where I found that advice now (been looking at a silly amount of forums and threads), but might be worth sticking in the FAQ in case it helps someone else

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as you are already rooted, dont bother about erase size.
and do nandroid backup instead of rom manager backup
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and do nandroid backup instead of rom manager backup
Thanks for this. I thought that the ROM backup in ROM manager was powered by ClockworkMod though? Is it not doing the same thing?

Oh, and how can I check that my goldcard is working? Seems wise to check before flashing a new ROM.

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Fixed broken Drop box link, created when re-organising my Drop box.

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Awesome guide (and FAQ too), thanks SUroot. Found it from google and of the many sites I read I came back here because it was the clearest/easiest.

Mine didn't work with 3.32, but went fine with 3.21

Now to sort out my storage so my phone doesn't keep filling up with apps!
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hi i'm a noobie at all this and have been following the vid tutorial to sort out my phone. i'm stuck at when running alpharev and on step three where the pc says that it is waiting for the flashing to complete. its not done anything for twenty minutes unlike the video where it was about ten seconds and more information came up on the desire screen all i have is
"AlphaRev SPLBOOT version 2.0

Normal NAND detected. Non-PVT4"

nothing else has happen. What do/can i do?
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hi i'm a noobie at all this and have been following the vid tutorial to sort out my phone. i'm stuck at when running alpharev and on step three where the pc says that it is waiting for the flashing to complete. its not done anything for twenty minutes unlike the video where it was about ten seconds and more information came up on the desire screen all i have is
"AlphaRev SPLBOOT version 2.0

Normal NAND detected. Non-PVT4"

nothing else has happen. What do/can i do?
See the solution here: S-Off Done... Flashing Partition Table Help?
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I rooted my phone with the help of SUroot when I first got it. Was asked to do a friends last night as he could no longer install anything due to lack of memory. Followed this guide exactly several times without success. Then the penny dropped - the phones memory was full. We uninstalled some of the larger apps and tried again. Worked a treat. New rom flashed.

So just to add - if you are having problems check you have some free memory on your phone.
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I rooted my phone with the help of SUroot when I first got it. Was asked to do a friends last night as he could no longer install anything due to lack of memory. Followed this guide exactly several times without success. Then the penny dropped - the phones memory was full. We uninstalled some of the larger apps and tried again. Worked a treat. New rom flashed.

So just to add - if you are having problems check you have some free memory on your phone.
Indeed. In fact this is mentioned in the accompanying rooting FAQ.

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Other UnrEVOked errors...

There are other errors involving "failed to unlock NAND" or containing "MISC" or "backup CID". Although there are lengthy ways to overcome these which often will not work, it may just be as well to downgrade using teppic74's downgrade tool (GSM ONLY), to 2.1 and try with an older unrEVOked version.

[HOWTO] Downgrade Froyo (2.2) to Stock 2.1 (ANY HBOOT | WIN/LINUX/MAC | ROOT) - xda-developers

Another error received is "Internal error: installing package failed." This can sometimes be down to there not being enough space on the device in "internal storage". You can delete some apps or even wipe as a possible work around.
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I know, but I never read the FAQ until following the instructions failed.
We got it done OK in the end though.

Excellent guide.
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this is a really really silly this to ask but iv just done all that and it went so easy so thank you so much was brilliant. but how do i tell if it is rooted???

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Was wondering if i could get some advice. I have a new HTC desire and would like to root it and subsequently get rid of all the orange rubbish on it.

Been looking at the guide and I looked at the PVT and i have a four one. but the terminal application recommended doesnt work, so i tried a different one, but this gives me permission denied. What would you recommend that i do ??

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When you say "Terminal emulator" does not work, what exactly happens?

You can follow this:

http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/158131-guide-easily-remove-system-apps-rooted-stock-roms-updated-15-04-11-a.html


Do:
1) Pre-requisite - Download SDK
2) method steps 1-5 (except in step 1, do not boot to recovery, just connect phone via usb)

Then type the same command:

cat /proc/mtd
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just read the link u posted and thats the one i followed so im still non the wiser wats going wrong?? sorry im a noob when it comes to this.
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When you're connected in HBOOT, in device manager can you see "Android 1.0 device"?

Did you install HTC sync then remove the application (ONLY) via control panel?
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yeah i did that,cud see android device in hboot
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reboot the pc, reboot the phone, connect phone in another USB socket. Try that.
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ok ill try that,dus it matter that my phone is updated with froyo
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nope. Well providing you're not using an old version of unrevoked, but you would get a "is your firmware too new" error, not "waiting for device"
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ok ill let u know how it goes
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isnt working,dont suppose it matters tht im on a netbook doing this
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Providing its windows it should be ok, unless the USB ports aren't good enough (possible). Have you another PC?
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yeah ive just taken it all apart the other day lol,ive sent photos from my fone onto here via a usb adapter
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Yeah, also we know that it shows in device manager so we know its picking it up. On laptops (and front USB ports on desktops) they are often underpowered so basic connections work fine, but more advanced stuff (like rooting) these ports are not sufficient.

It may be worth trying it on another PC. If it still happens, we know its not your laptop. Its your phone. (or you )
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just checked my netbook spec and they r 2.0 usb connections the same as the pc.
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this is the only bit of the process i didnt fully understand so i got feeling i done something wrong here

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Current Android Software version
  • Settings>About phone. We need to check if your software is the ARA build (ARA 2.xx.415.x) this is the Arab build
Hboot version, PVT and Erase size.
  • Boot into Hboot (from off, hold volume down and press power)
  • Make a note of your Hboot version - Must be lower than 1.06
  • Make a note of your PVT version. If it is PVT4 you must now check if the erase size is 40,000
  • "Download Terminal emulator" from the market and open it.
  • Type "cat /proc/mtd" and press enter. It will return results of either 20,000 or 40,000

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just checked my netbook spec and they r 2.0 usb connections the same as the pc.
No thats not what I meant. I mean the USB's are underpowered often on laptops as are the front usb ports on desktop pc's.

Its nothing to do with the version of the USB.
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this is the only bit of the process i didnt fully understand so i got feeling i done something wrong here

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Current Android Software version
  • Settings>About phone. We need to check if your software is the ARA build (ARA 2.xx.415.x) this is the Arab build

If you had this version, you would get "Is your firmware too new?" so its nothing to do with that. Plus you're probably not on ARA as thats the Arab build.

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Hboot version, PVT and Erase size.
  • Boot into Hboot (from off, hold volume down and press power)
  • Make a note of your Hboot version - Must be lower than 1.06
  • Make a note of your PVT version. If it is PVT4 you must now check if the erase size is 40,000
  • "Download Terminal emulator" from the market and open it.
  • Type "cat /proc/mtd" and press enter. It will return results of either 20,000 or 40,000

Which bit didnt you understand? This is just information you require.
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you have enabled debug mode right?
do not mount the phone as mass storage when connected to the netbook

can you take a screenshot of device manager on the netbook please
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pvt version. yeah its set to debug and its on charge only wen its connected up,wud take a screenshot but dunno how lol sorry
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