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Old July 17th, 2011, 09:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Kids.

So I was reading up on some terminology. Mainly what the hell S-OFF, and S-ON mean. I now know they refer to the security settings in the HBOOT of HTC phones.

I read that if the phone is fully rooted using Unrevoked, then the phoen will then be fully S-OFF. However mins is still reading as S-ON in the HBOOT screen.

How is this possible, and how do I become fully S-OFF?

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Unrevoked only provides S-Off on CDMA Desires, and even then not all of them.

For S-Off on a GSM Desire (which is what you have) you need to pay a visit to alpharev.nl. There's also a tutorial thread in xda-developers desire-android-development forum, linked from SUroot's root memory FAQ (look under "alpharev partition tables").
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Hmm. That all looks alot more complicated than just rooting it. Might have to give that a miss. Took me months to pluck up the courage to root. Knowing me I'd brick my phone. Thanks anyway mate.
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It's actually pretty similar in complexity to rooting - you make a bootable disc from the alpharev iso, and once you've done that the actual S-Off is pretty much a one-click operation.

But you shouldn't (IMO) do it just because you've read someone say that it's a good thing to have. You should think about what else it makes possible, and if those are things you want to do then many of us here have done it and will be happy to advise.
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Okay so what I gather it free's some space up by resizing the partitions, and switches off the HBOOT security features making it easier for unsigned roms to be installed, but I've not seen anything about any other effects. What else does making the phone S-OFF with alpharev offer?

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The other thing is that bypassing the NAND security lets you write to the system partition while the phone is running Android, so you can e.g. add init scripts without flashing, or use Ti to unistall system apps (or use it's option to integrate updates to these into the ROM).

You also gain the option to flash radios via fastboot rather than recovery (should be safer, and the only option if you have a reduced size cache partition).

The main attraction is however resizing the internal memory partitions to waste less space and make more of it available for user apps.
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The security is not in the hboot. It's in radio nvram. They can't change that do they devised a special hboot to ignore it. Technically security is still on. Just ignored
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Hadron. The space saving advantage is a great appeal to me. I might just consider doing this. Thanks.

SUroot. Thanks for clearing that up. I'd say I'm about 50% there now with all the tech' droid stuff. I'm still learning the more advanced side of things. Any tips, advice us greatly appreciated.

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Does doing this affect the ROM? What I mean by that is will I need to reinstall GV? or does it just resize the partition the same way that Partition Magic on a PC does. I might well take the plunge tonight. Be interesting how much space I'll claim back.
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If were taking about hboot partitions, totally different. It's just changing where all the software thinks the partitions are. Should be.ok so long as Rom is smaller than system. Take a nandroid backup via recoveryfirst though
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Okay colour me stoopid, but I'm lost already. I've downloaded the Alpharev iso, and burnt it to CD.

I cant get the PC to boot from this CD, as described in the guide. I'm REALLY lost with this now....

Do I put the alpha.zip file that's now on the CD onto my SD card, and install that?

Sorry to be a pain guys. I realy cant get my head around this alpharev thing after all.



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I've also just set up my PC to run fastboot as per SUroot, sorry Dan described in his guide here [FAQ] ADB and FASTBOOT for Windows (Updated 1st June 2011)
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You need to burn it to CD as an iso, not just copy the data. Not much of a windows user, so can't name a utility off the top of my head, but SUroot has posted this a couple of times, so a quick forum search should bring up the answer.

As for flashing different memory table, when you are S-Off you can follow the instructions on alpharev.nl. In essence you take a nandroid, update the hboot, wipe, restore the nandroid, but there are step-by-step instructions just under the download links for the various tables.
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Okay colour me stoopid, but I'm lost already. I've downloaded the Alpharev iso, and burnt it to CD.

I cant get the PC to boot from this CD, as described in the guide. I'm REALLY lost with this now....

Do I put the alpha.zip file that's now on the CD onto my SD card, and install that?

Sorry to be a pain guys. I realy cant get my head around this alpharev thing after all.



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I've also just set up my PC to run fastboot as per SUroot, sorry Dan described in his guide here [FAQ] ADB and FASTBOOT for Windows (Updated 1st June 2011)

You have to tell your pc to boot from cd, f8 I think during boot to enter bios, when there change the boot sequence so its cd first. Then when you reboot it should boot straight from the cd and that's it, s-off is very simple, don't install their clockwork mod, deselect that, and if your anything like me you will be shitting it for a few minutes then your done. Good luck.
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sounds like you have just made a data disk. The alpharev should be an image that you burn to disk and then thr pc boots from it, what software did you use to burn the disk? Try using this.

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Hmmm maybe you're right. I used Deamon tools to burn the CD. When I looked at it, there was only two files, and a zip folder. I thought it didn't look like a bootable CD. I'll have another look tomorrow.

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Yeah you need to burn it as an iso. Essentially a clone from the image.
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Okay I'm still struggling with this. I've burnt two images with Free ISO burner, and one with Afterburner lite, and, another with Active@ ISO burner, and all four show EXACTLY the same files, and are none bootable. Tried three differant downloaded AlphaRev ISO files incase one was corrupted. Nothing.....
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Can you confirm you can definitely boot to other CD's?

Theres a more long winded way around this...


Download and install VMware player
VMware Player 3.0

You need to sign up, but thats fine.

Once you have installed vmware player:

Open VMplayer
click "create new virtual machine"
Select "I will install the Operating system later"
Next
Select "other" and again in the drop down.
Next
Set name as "CD bootable" if you like or leave as is.
The machine will take up a small amount of space, so ensure you are happy with teh location.
Next
Store virtual disk as single file
Set disk size as 0.5 or something
Next
"Customize hardware"
highlight CD drive in left and in right, "use ISO image". Browse to your allpharev.iso or alpharev.iso or whatever.
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Finish
The machine will start up in a new window. If it does not, you can play it from the main window.

Plug your phone in. Look at the bottom edge on the right of the window. You should hover over the icons as one will be your phone. Click on it and select "connect to guest" and thats it. Go through the process
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Okay, first of all. I'm a dick LOL.

I've got that many drives attached to my PC that every time I tried to boot from the CD, I kept clicking on one of the HDD to boot. No bloody wonder it wasn't working.

So in bed last night, I had a flash of inspiration, and realised this.

Got up and tried it. Low and behold the CD booted fine. Linked up the phone, and ran the AlphaRev HBOOT utillity.

After getting to stage three, and the screen readinng, waiting for flashing to complete, I waited........and waited........and waited.......and you guessed it, I waited.

After three and a half hours later, now now 02:15 this morning, the phone STILL hadn't done anything. Now comes the brown trouser moment, I picked up the phone, and caught the USB cable. Countless read/write errors came up on the screen. OH F**K I thought, I've bricked my phone.

Thought, I might as well turn the PC off now, since my phone is screwed, but just out of curiosity, I booted it. STILL read the old HBOOT with S-ON, but thankfully I was able to recover the backup I ran before I tried this.

How long does this process take. I'm shocked that after 3 hour's nothing had happened.

I REALLY want to try again, but I don't want to wait that long. Most nights I end up in the spare room, as my 3 year old ends up in our bed. The PC is in there, and it'll keep me awake. So running it through tyhe night is really a no no.

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Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes....
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So I'm guessing three and a half hours is on the L O N G side? LOL

I'll give it another go now.

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Okay sat on my wifes laptop while this thing is running, and it still doesn't seem to be doing much. The PC says "Waiting for flashing to complete", and the phone says

AlphaRev SPLBOOT version 2.0

Normal NAND detected, Non-PVT4.

Is that what it's supposed to say?

Not much activity on the PC. This is the same place where it hung all last night.
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25 mins and still no change. Me thinks it's not worked again.
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The first posts of the tutorial thread at XDA says "some people have reported it taking up to an hour", though it only took about a minute for me.

Some people have also reported it hanging at the last step, but being S-Off after they gave up and rebooted.

Trouble is, most people only do it once, so don't get so much experience of this.
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Well seeing as it wasn't S-OFF after three and a half hours last night, and the phone still worked, I'm guessing it'll be safe to give up.

What do you suggest?
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it hung on mine. I pulled battery after an hour and it had worked, only strangely i never had the joker splash screen, so i just flashed that at a later date.
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Okay I'll give it another 15 mins, that'll be an hour then. Then we'll see, if I have a nice S-OFF Desire, or a rather expensive paper weight LOL
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Okay, left it an hour. Dropped the battery, rebooted, and restored. Still S-ON. I think I'm just going to have to accept that my phone doesn't like the idea of being totally unlocked, and S-OFF.

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Are you running GingerVillain?

Try this: take a nandroid (always a good idea before running alpharev anyway!), wipe, install a simple stock froyo ROM (e.g. Teppic74's). Don't bother restoring anything, just run alpharev.

Once it's done, just restore the nandroid.
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ok i think i know what the issue is here,
1st of all you are running a non "sense" rom. this can cause issues with flashing
it is recommended by alpharev to backup current rom, flash to a standard custom sense rom like teppics or leedroid 2.x etc. run the utility and once complete restore the backup

from your sig you are using GV 2.7 which is AOSP not sense
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Okay thanks guys. That's a job for tomorrow night....if the missus stops complaining that a spend more time with my phone than her LMFAO
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ok i think i know what the issue is here,
1st of all you are running a non "sense" rom. this can cause issues with flashing
it is recommended by alpharev to backup current rom, flash to a standard custom sense rom like teppics or leedroid 2.x etc. run the utility and once complete restore the backup

from your sig you are using GV 2.7 which is AOSP not sense
Rasta is right. I used Leedroid nona2sd rom and I was S-OFFed in matter of minutes!
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Old July 20th, 2011, 04:20 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Old July 20th, 2011, 04:40 PM   #40 (permalink)
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if the missus stops complaining that a spend more time with my phone than her
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Rasta is right. I used Leedroid nona2sd rom and I was S-OFFed in matter of minutes!
i used leedroid to and i s-off'd without any problems.
it took a few minutes thats all.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 03:14 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Yep, I also couldn't S-OFF on Gingervillan ROM. It worked on an early version of Redux though. Probably, it was too plain to hinder anything in the process...
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Old July 21st, 2011, 10:29 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Okay got LeeDroid 3.3.1 sat on my SD card ready to try this out. I'll let you know later.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 02:45 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Okay that's it. I OFFICIALLY give up on this S-OFF palava.

Just tried to run AlphaRev, twice with LeeDroid 3.3.1 SENSE ROM, and both times I got an error after stage 2 of unable to enumerate USB device. Also got this message not longer after stage 3 started, along with 4 line error messages.

The phone still booted fine, but STILL S-ON.

The weird thing is I also got these enumerate messages when the USB cable fell out the other night, this time however, the cable was in tight.

I might just have to accept that my phone is destined to always be S-ON.

I've switched to Redux ROM now after the good reports on size, and battery life.

Thanks for all your help guys. Looks like I lost this battle.

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could be the cable, is it the official one that came with the phone. Try another usb port maybe.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 04:14 PM   #46 (permalink)
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dont know much about the 3.x leedroid as its based on gingerbread
i was refering to the 2.x leedroid as its froyo and htc build
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Old July 21st, 2011, 04:17 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Yeah, don't want to beat deceased equines here, and I understand the desire to call it a day, but I also used a Froyo Sense ROM for this (what the tool was developed for).

Sorry it's been such a pain
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 10:16 AM   #48 (permalink)
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So I need a FroYo Sense ROM? Be easier to find some rocking horse s**t, as every ROM seems to be Gingerbread now.
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 10:22 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Use leedroid 2.x or teppic74's rooted stock or your own nandroid of original Rom
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 12:52 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I've found one called NeoPhyte. Going to run this. Says its FroYo, and sense, so should do the trick. Let you know how I get on.

Bugger. Downloaded a verion without the radio. Dumb Schmuck.

Going for Teppic74's base ROM as advised.
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