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Old January 13th, 2012, 07:52 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Sorry to be posting this message here but I read the FAQ on rooting and the S-OFF process. I'm still a little confused as to whether or not my HTC Desire needs to be S-OFF'ed before I can install a custom ROM such as Cyanogenmod. Do I need S-OFF to install Cyanogenmod or another other Custom ROMs?

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Sorry to be posting this message here but I read the FAQ on rooting and the S-OFF process. I'm still a little confused as to whether or not my HTC Desire needs to be S-OFF'ed before I can install a custom ROM such as Cyanogenmod. Do I need S-OFF to install Cyanogenmod or another other Custom ROMs?

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Well, it depends what you want to do, but for most things you do not need it.
So no

However if you're on android 2.3, you have no choice but to S-OFF to achieve root.
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Can anyone please tell me the official and most successful way to root my HTC Desire Z Android 2.3.3!?? Please, Had this phone for a year would love to know its full potential! = )
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Can anyone please tell me the official and most successful way to root my HTC Desire Z Android 2.3.3!?? Please, Had this phone for a year would love to know its full potential! = )
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HI

I just wanted to check.. I rooted when I was running 2.2.2. I've installed a 2.3.7 ROM. Is there any benefit to me S-Off now?
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Only S-OFF if you identify a requirement to do so. You haven't so don't worry right now.
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I got one silly question. Is there possible to S-OFF a HTC Desire these days with:

BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT 1.03.0003

My current ROM is modified: CM9-ICS.


If so, how? By downgrading HBOOT first?
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I got one silly question. Is there possible to S-OFF a HTC Desire these days with:

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HBOOT 1.03.0003

My current ROM is modified: CM9-ICS.


If so, how? By downgrading HBOOT first?
ive not seen that hboot before, where is it from
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If you can downgrade the hboot that would work, but I've not seen anyone claiming to have succeeded. Feel free to try, but I fear it may be a case of wait and hope someone cracks this one.

Did you get this by trying the official bootloader unlock (which I think "upgrades" the hboot to this version)?
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If you can downgrade the hboot that would work, but I've not seen anyone claiming to have succeeded. Feel free to try, but I fear it may be a case of wait and hope someone cracks this one.

Did you get this by trying the official bootloader unlock (which I think "upgrades" the hboot to this version)?
i feared it could be that, but when i took it apart it looked like 1.04
hmm maybe it will let him flash hboot?
maybe if he flashed a froyo sense rom it will let him use teppics downgrader?
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Only place I've seen 1.03 is in discussions of the bootloader unlock, but I've also seen 1.04 mentioned in those. Didn't look too closely.

Samsi, if teppic's downgrader works could you let us know? This would be useful information.
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thanks for the reply guys =) i can confirm that hboot came from the official unlock tool provided by HTC. I kind of hate them now :/

I'll try to install an old rom and see where it leads me. I'll post back later.
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It's not the first time. When HTC released their gingerbread for the Desire it initially could not be rooted or S-Offed. In that case revolutionary came to the rescue, and maybe they will again, but who knows.

I think the advice is that when HTC offer something that we can already do in other ways, don't be in too much of a hurry to try their version . The Gingerbread update turned out to be rather useful to us, not because it's Gingerbread but because it offers a pretty universal "return to stock for warranty purposes" tool (as it works with many networks' handsets) and now can be rooted as well. The bootloader unlock seems to offer less than alpharev/revolutionary, and still voids the warranty if I've understood their slightly non-committal wording right, so at this moment I don't see any advantage to using it rather than revolutionary.
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we dont know if hes able to flash hboot from fastboot yet. we dont know what commands have been included as they havent disclosed it
if he can fastboot flash the alpharev stock hboot then its all good

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flash a stock rooted 2.2 rom
the get teppics downgrader and see if it works. if it does it will take you to a 2.1 rom with an early hboot. you can then root with unrevoked and flash the a rom of choice (remember to update radio)
after that is done you can s-off with alpharev
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Discussion of the official bootloader unlock at XDA says that it won't let you flash hboot or radio. I'm assuming this information is correct, but yeah, I guess that the worst that happens if he tries to fastboot flash hboot is that it doesn't let him.
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Discussion of the official bootloader unlock at XDA says that it won't let you flash hboot or radio. I'm assuming this information is correct, but yeah, I guess that the worst that happens if he tries to fastboot flash hboot is that it doesn't let him.
wheres these discussions? xda?
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Yeah, there's a discussion in the desire general forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439410. Someone in that thread was having a similar problem, though I didn't see teppic's tool mentioned.
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Yeah, there's a discussion in the desire general forum here: [Official Unlocking Bootloader] HBOOT HTC Desire - xda-developers. Someone in that thread was having a similar problem, though I didn't see teppic's tool mentioned.
i reckon it would work
teppic mentioned it should work on most hboots as long as the rom was rooted.
the issues with the 2.3.3 RUU is that you couldnt downgrade the hboot as you couldnt achieve root
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i reckon it would work
teppic mentioned it should work on most hboots as long as the rom was rooted.
the issues with the 2.3.3 RUU is that you couldnt downgrade the hboot as you couldnt achieve root
Yep, this is what teppic said
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Teppics downgrader zip file seems to be corrupted or somethin'. Tried to find it in several webpages with no luck. How ever i managed to run an old RUU bravo version ([RUU][RADIO] Official shipping RUU's + Radio's in update.zip's [13/06/10] - HTCPedia.com forums) by flashing bravo_downgrader (AlphaRev 1.8).

I thought an old ruu version would downgrade the hboot version itself, but i didn't :/

Any further suggestions?
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Did you try Teppic's XDA thread? The link's there, and I'm trying to download version 2.3 to test - it's a slow download, but seems to be working.

Edit: Yes, the utility downloaded, and the md5 code checks out.

But I'm puzzled by the rest. If you succeeded in flashing the downgrader then that would be 1.03 gone, and the RUU would replace the downgrader. So presumably that flash failed, but if so how did you run the RUU at all? I think I must be missing something here.
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Maybe flashed the wrong RUU?
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Did you try Teppic's XDA thread? The link's there, and I'm trying to download version 2.3 to test - it's a slow download, but seems to be working.

Edit: Yes, the utility downloaded, and the md5 code checks out.

But I'm puzzled by the rest. If you succeeded in flashing the downgrader then that would be 1.03 gone, and the RUU would replace the downgrader. So presumably that flash failed, but if so how did you run the RUU at all? I think I must be missing something here.
indeed.
when you flashed the downgrader did the hboot say alpharev at the top?
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Hi,

Now i am having S-Off HTC Desire Mobile.

I have stuck in step 6 (adding Custom Recover)

Iíve downloaded Amon-Ra 2.0.1, which is have file name recovery-RA_2.0.1.img
Phone is in FASTBOOT USB Mode.

Now when i perform step-6(D) and in command prompt (fastboot flash recovery C:\HTCSoft\Android2.3.3\recovery-RA_2.0.1.img) nothing happen and pop-up comes with error message.

Wnidown can't open this file:
File: recovery-RA_2.0.1.img

I am not able to Download recover file ClockWorkMod 2.5.0.7 because while i try to download it ask for login credential which i doesnít have.

I am trying on Window-7, Please help me.

Please help me to Root my desire.

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Type the actual command from stage 6, "fastboot flash recovery", followed by the recovery image file name.

And if you were trying to get CWM from the toolbox thread the password is near the end of the thread (I assume you have erase size 20,000, or else you must use amon ra anyway).
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Thanks, I rooted my HTC Desire Successfully.

Now I just want to know that can I install RCMixS_v2.0_A2SD+_BravoHboot ROM on my HTC desire ?

Does any body using RCMixS_v2.0_A2SD+_BravoHboot Rom ?

Or Please share me Good Rom which is compatible with above rooted process and having Latest HTC Sense.

If you have steps please share.

Thanks in Advance !!!

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If you want a new Sense ROM you'll need an ext partition on your sd card.
See the rooting and root memory faqs. There's also a guide to partitioning using GParted with VMWare, which you may find useful.

You need this extra Linux-format partition on your card because new Sense ROMs are too large for the phone's storage, so part of the ROM lives on the card partition instead. This is true for any new sense ROM. If you read the first couple of posts of the ROM's XDA thread it should list the partition in the requirements.
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I doesn't want to go for Partition practice.

I'll be happy with HTC Sence 3.0 as well..

I've rooted my phone with above method only. Can i install RCMixS_v2.0_A2SD+_BravoHboot Rom ?

What does it mean by BravoHboot ?

Presently I've HBoot only...

Could you please guide ?
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In the first post of the RCMixS thread it says:

Requirements:

Fat + Ext 2/3/4 - 1 GB ext

As I said above, all new Sense ROMs, i.e. anything with a Sense version newer than that which comes with the Desire (which is Sense 1.0) will require this. There's no way round it if you want a newer Sense version. It's a bit of hassle, but that's the cost of installing software that HTC never intended to run on the Desire

"Bravo HBOOT" just means the default HBOOT. "Bravo" is HTC's internal codename for the Desire.
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Can any one suggest custom ROM by which i can again star my phone.

I rooted phone with above process and tried to install Insertcoin ROM but it stuck in the loop and now i am not able to start my phone.

Please suggest me ASAP so i can use my mobile and install ROM without partition.

Plz plz plz help
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You did take a nandroid before trying to install that ROM? If so (and you should have), restore that and your phone is working again. If not, please read the rooting FAQ before you try any more modifications.

If you want Sense and don't want to partition, you are limited to Sense 1.0 ROMs and rooted stock ROMs. The latter will be very similar to what you already have. See the Desire Index thread at XDA for a list. If you didn't take a nandroid, flashing a rooted stock ROM will be the quickest way of getting your phone working again - I generally recommend teppic74's ROMs in this category.

Once you have the phone working it would probably be better to move discussion of ROM choices to another thread, since we are no longer discussing using revolutionary.

By the way, I had already told you that you needed a partition to run any newer Sense ROM, and the InsertCoin thread's first post says explicitly that a partition is required. I'm not trying to be awkward when I say these things, I'm trying to save you from getting into trouble like this. A dead ROM is recoverable by nandroid restore or by flashing a new ROM, but there are other mistakes that could wreck your phone irrecoverably, so for your own sake please don't ignore the advice you are given.
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You did take a nandroid before trying to install that ROM? If so (and you should have), restore that and your phone is working again. If not, please read the rooting FAQ before you try any more modifications.

If you want Sense and don't want to partition, you are limited to Sense 1.0 ROMs and rooted stock ROMs. The latter will be very similar to what you already have. See the Desire Index thread at XDA for a list. If you didn't take a nandroid, flashing a rooted stock ROM will be the quickest way of getting your phone working again - I generally recommend teppic74's ROMs in this category.

Once you have the phone working it would probably be better to move discussion of ROM choices to another thread, since we are no longer discussing using revolutionary.

By the way, I had already told you that you needed a partition to run any newer Sense ROM, and the InsertCoin thread's first post says explicitly that a partition is required. I'm not trying to be awkward when I say these things, I'm trying to save you from getting into trouble like this. A dead ROM is recoverable by nandroid restore or by flashing a new ROM, but there are other mistakes that could wreck your phone irrecoverably, so for your own sake please don't ignore the advice you are given.
Thanks Pal to help me out and Run it again on Normal mode,

Now could you suggest me best way to partition my SD card to take full benefit

thanks in advance !!!
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Can anyone suggest me best way to partition my SD card to take full benefit of ROOT.

thanks in advance !!!
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As many people are saying there isn't a guide for this and I found it quite easy, I thought I'd write a simple one. At the moment I don't have the time to make it too pretty or repeat things which SURoot has already done in other guides, but over time I will edit and improve it.

Revolutionary is not the same as Unrevoked. Revolutionary is more like the successor to Alpharev than the successor to Unrevoked, as Unrevoked roots your phone, while Revolutionary will S-OFF your phone. You then have to root it by running a root zip file in recovery mode.

It's just another way of getting to the end goal of having more options of what you can do with your phone.

Revolutionary will not work for every Desire (currently), but it will work for certain HBoots and is the only way for people who have the "official" HTC Gingerbread Android. Froyo users can also S-OFF and root this way too if you have the right hboot (I did, because Unrevoked didn't work).

Almost everyone should be able to get rooted using either this guide or the Unrevoked guide

I'm assuming the goal is to root your phone. If you just want to S-OFF and have already rooted, you can ignore most of the sections as you've probably already done them. You can probably just run the Revolutionary software and follow the prompts (Section 5).

For everyone else, follow this:

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SETUP / PREP

1) Firstly, sort out your drivers so your PC speaks with your phone: (note usb debugging should always be on)

a) Download HTC Sync and uninstall (this leaves the drivers behind but not the program which can interfere with things, you can reinstall it after your rooted)
b) Download and installl HBoot driver (see Unrevoked guide for the download link and guide)

2) Find out your PVT version:

a) Boot into HBoot (from off, hold vol-down and press power), make note of HBoot version. If PTV4, follow (b) to (d). If not, go to (e)
b) Download Terminal Emulator from the market and open it
c) Type "Cat/proc/mtd" and press enter. It will return results of either 20000 or 40000
d) If 40,000 - download Amon-Ra 2.0.1 Recovery (see below section (e)) and store it in a easy to find and access place on your PC (ie C:/ )
e) if 20000 or not ptv4, download your choice of recovery below, either will work.
Amon-Ra 2.0.1 or ClockWorkMod 2.5.0.7

My pvt version is pvt4 but when I check what version on the Terminal Emulator it keeps coming back with the same result..

not found,

I have tried it with a cap C and non cap C but keep getting the same reply..

Is it important which recovery I dowload??

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Just read that I need to leave a space after Cat, sorted thanks.
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trying to download the recovery but having problems with both recommended on here,
Amon doesnt even come up and tells me to search for a comand program and CWM is asking me for login details and password..

Any ideas folks

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if you're getting it from the ultimate toolbox thread, then yes you need the password.
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if you're getting it from the ultimate toolbox thread, then yes you need the password.
OK thanks for that...so where do I get the recovery from then?
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The ultimate toolbox thread. With the password from within the ultimate toolbox thread.
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You get the password from the thread - start at the end and work backwards, it'll be in a post from Rastaman-FB
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Default A solution for HBOOT 1.03 or possibly higher i.e. 1.04

Sorry for late reply. As i've mentioned before, i managed to downgrade the software to an Old RUU version RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3 (Image version 1.15.405.3). At this point my device had no functioning ROM or recovery, which means the only way to communicate with the COMPUTER was through the FASTBOOT.

I then downloaded RUU_HTC 3.14.405.1 Android 2.3 Upgrade.exe from HTC dev (official webpage). Check out this website to see which official RUU version determines your HBOOT as well as KERNEL / Radio. HTC Desire - XDA-Developers

The last mentioned version resulted in HBOOT 1.02, WITH THESE ACTIONS YOU WILL LOOSE ROOT, BUT from now you can simply follow the easy guide at Revolutionary to get S-OFF, root access AND flash desired clockworkmod version.

Unfortunately i do not know which one of these steps gave me permission to downgrade the image version.

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[HOW-TO] Downgrade HBOOT - HTCPedia.com forums

Reported 1 broken link at that guide. You will be needing this URL: Desire mtd0.img creator

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[HOW-TO] downgrade HBOOT 0.93 to 0.80 again - xda-developers

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Or simply just run the downgrader (Zip file, named PB"..." from AlphaRev 1.8 and run it through bootloader OR you can also try the .IMG file through the fastboot.

Feel free to correct me if i am wrong.

Please reply after trying ONE of these steps so we maybe can make a sticky guide or somethin' like that for HTC Desire HBOOT 1.03 or above.
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Right I think I may be thick as I cant add a custom recovery....

When I download CWM it keeps comiung up with the following fault...cannot open the file it dosent seem to be valid..when I try Amon thats says the same...

I am stuck at numer 6, everything before hand is ok..

Doing my head..
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Sorry for late reply. As i've mentioned before, i managed to downgrade the software to an Old RUU version RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3 (Image version 1.15.405.3). At this point my device had no functioning ROM or recovery, which means the only way to communicate with the COMPUTER was through the FASTBOOT.

I then downloaded RUU_HTC 3.14.405.1 Android 2.3 Upgrade.exe from HTC dev (official webpage). Check out this website to see which official RUU version determines your HBOOT as well as KERNEL / Radio. HTC Desire - XDA-Developers

The last mentioned version resulted in HBOOT 1.02, WITH THESE ACTIONS YOU WILL LOOSE ROOT, BUT from now you can simply follow the easy guide at Revolutionary to get S-OFF, root access AND flash desired clockworkmod version.

Unfortunately i do not know which one of these steps gave me permission to downgrade the image version.

1
[HOW-TO] Downgrade HBOOT - HTCPedia.com forums

Reported 1 broken link at that guide. You will be needing this URL: Desire mtd0.img creator

2
[HOW-TO] downgrade HBOOT 0.93 to 0.80 again - xda-developers

3
Or simply just run the downgrader (Zip file, named PB"..." from AlphaRev 1.8 and run it through bootloader OR you can also try the .IMG file through the fastboot.

Feel free to correct me if i am wrong.

Please reply after trying ONE of these steps so we maybe can make a sticky guide or somethin' like that for HTC Desire HBOOT 1.03 or above.
hmm teppics downgrader would have been enough then i think. downgrading to a version that is older than your phone usually results in slcd screen brick.
that would explain why you lost the rom and recovery.
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Do i need to clear dalvik cache before installing any custom ROM ?

Which is the best ROM for HTC Desire ?
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If you wipe data which when changing roms, you should do, it also wipes dalvik.

If you're upgrading a Rom to a newer release of the same Rom without a wipe, its good practice to wipe dalvik
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I have been reading but i'm still having some issues. i got revolutionary on and s-off. i'm sorry if this is a dumb question but it says rootfile - place this on your sd card. I think is what i'm messing up on... i'm lost!
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Once you are s-off, you must fastboot flash a recovery of your choice. Then when you have recovery, you can flash zips. You can either flash a zip file that roots your current rom or flash a custom rom zip file...
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I cant get a custom recovery. i followed the steps went to run entered "cmd" entered fastboot flash recovery and the file name and location. it says fastboot is not recognised as an internal or external command i would appreciate any help!
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I cant get a custom recovery. i followed the steps went to run entered "cmd" entered fastboot flash recovery and the file name and location. it says fastboot is not recognised as an internal or external command i would appreciate any help!
What did you do at step 3 of post 1? Its all here!!!
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the vibe in here really seems to be one of angry obligation rather than altruism. thanks anyway.
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We're not obligated to do anything. We're helping you even though you're not answering our questions, not reading our answers and not following our advice.

Personally, I dont think rooting is for you as you do need to understand what you are doing and to do that you need to read things thoroughly which you seem incapable of doing.

I just dont see how it is so difficult to get to step 6 by going through steps 1-5 first. To be frank if you carry on like this you're going to break your device. Its up to you, but I would definitely recommend follwing things in order and stop being rude to the people who help you.

Yes, we are getting frustrated with you but that is becvause you are not doing what we say and following the advice we give you or even following the guides properly.

All the information is here. All you need to do is read it and stop skipping sections like the impatient person you appear to be.
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