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Old October 10th, 2012, 08:22 AM   #101 (permalink)
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The first problem is that Minitool is rubbish. We recommend GParted - there's a guide to using it in the All Things Root Guide sticky post. I tend to trust 4Ext Touch recovery to partition cards as well - more so than CWM (but I trust that much more than Minitool!). You should also use Ext4 or Ext3 rather than Ext2.

As for the rest, I need to read your post again (on TapaTalk and was interrupted).

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Old October 10th, 2012, 08:44 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Ok, not sure what you've done. Wiping user data should not do that unless you've used Titanium Backup to convert some system apps to user apps (if you have, then a factory reset will delete them!). Please don't take this wrong, but I recommend learning a bit more about this stuff before you try changing things - for example, Titanium has nothing to do with moving apps to ext partitions. Being S-Off means there is nothing to stop you messing the system up if you don't know what is ok to do and what is not.

Most important question: did you take a backup from recovery (a "nandroid" backup)? If so, restore that and you are back to where you were when the backup was made. Beware when partitioning, as that usually wipes the card (where your backups are!), so always back up the card first.

If you have no nandroid and you have wiped data from recovery then there is nothing left to lose. In that case you may as well flash a custom ROM. If you want to use an ext partition to gain space you'll need to do this anyway, as the default HTC ROM doesn't support the scripts needed for this. In this case I'd recommend redoing the partitioning first, choosing a ROM, then installing that. Read the root memory faq (linked in the same sticky thread) first.

If you could give a little more detail on what does work we might be able to come up with another solution (all I know now is that 2 things don't work). But I have to go offline now.

One other, slightly more major way, would be to reflash to stock using a RUU - but choose the right one (a recent unbranded Froyo or the Gingerbread upgrade). This will unroot and remove your recovery, but you'll still be S-Off so can redo those. It's more major, but for getting the phone working quickly might involve learning less. This also erases all user data, and you wouldn't be able to restore a Titanium Backup until you'd rooted again.

Without more info on the status those are the ideas I can come up with.

Good luck - I'll check in later when I can.
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I'M on 2.3.3 HTC DEV
ran revolutionary.....should it be charge mode or?

waiting for device...and nothing happens.

i left USB DEBUGGING OFF, trying again lol.
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failed to get root, is your firmware too new?
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Hi,


The memory issue is now really an inconvenience and I have made the choice to root my phone, however I just don't feel confident enough to start the process. I have read this thread several times but there are too many technical terms used which I don't really understand.


My aim is to root my device so I can remove/freeze some of the apps that came with the device (e.g. Flickr, Footprints, Friend Stream, etc) that I have never used, also to extend the phone memory over to a partition on the SD Card for extra storage.


There are a lot of terms that I am not familiar with and feel lost in all this (e.g. sticky post, md5, recovery, img, etc).


I am on Win 7 and below are the details of my phone device,


BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP- 051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO- 5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010



I would appreciate if you could tell me what I would need to start and complete the process successfully. Any specific Guides that I would need to read.


I know the threads have very useful steps and discussions, but I get lost in all the different questions that others have asked.



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Sorry, on my phone so can't easily post links. A sticky post is a thread that remains at the top of the list in this forum regardless of when the last post was. So look for a thread called Desire All Things Root Guide on the first page of this forum's list of threads and that's it. That one is also the red link in my signature.

In that thread you'll find links to posts explaining some of the terminology. I'd also recommend reading "[faq] Rooting".

Recovery is a small program which is intended to help you fix things if there is a problem with your Android installation. The one that comes with the phone doesn't let you do much, so we replace it with a custom version which does a lot more, including letting you modify your software and take system backups.

Don't worry about "image" - img is just the file type here. Copying an image means filling a particular partition with the contents of the .img file (which may be a single program, or a set of files).

There's a thread that explains md5 checking linked from the ATR Guide thread.

Don't rush - it's important to know what you are doing before trying it.
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Excuse my ignorance, but this step is not clear at all (Step 5) Run Revolutionary).


I assume the phone will have to be connect with the USB cable to the PC/Laptop, but does not mention in what state the phone should be in (switched off, Hboot, switched on as normal???)


Maybe this was covered in another place but I must have missed it.


Also, at what point do i use the Root file from "4 b)"?



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I have an HTC desire, for which I have been following your excellent guide through steps 1-5.

Proceeding onto step 6, I entered HBOOT, went to the fastboot screen and connected my phone to my PC, whereupon the notification changed to FASTBOOT USB as expected.

I moved the image files (Both the Amon-RA that I intended to use and the Revolutionary) to the c: root directory, and typed the fastboot sequence... at which point everything goes awry;

My Windows 7 PC simply refuses to recognise 'Fastboot' as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. So I am unable to load a custom recovery through fastboot... and therefore cannot root!!

What can I do to get this fastboot to work or to bypass this issue entirely?
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Have you installed the fastboot command on your pc (early step in tutorial - part of the SDK on Windows IIRC)?

Fastboot is both a program on the computer and a mode on the phone.
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Excuse my ignorance, but this step is not clear at all (Step 5) Run Revolutionary).


I assume the phone will have to be connect with the USB cable to the PC/Laptop, but does not mention in what state the phone should be in (switched off, Hboot, switched on as normal???)


Maybe this was covered in another place but I must have missed it.


Also, at what point do i use the Root file from "4 b)"?



Thanks for your help on this.

I didn't get a reply to the above, would you please let me know.

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Hi guys! I managed to get to 3 when realising i cant download clockworkmod because the 'Useful Downloads thread' is not working. Hopefully the links further down aren't dead either. Can someone help me out? Thanks In Advance!
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I didn't get a reply to the above, would you please let me know.

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Sorry, real life keeping me rather busy.

You use the root file from 4b in 7c - flashing that file from recovery is what actually roots the ROM.
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It's working fine for me.

It is password protected to prevent leaching of Rasta's bandwidth. The username is in the thread, and the current password is in the last post.
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Have you installed the fastboot command on your pc (early step in tutorial - part of the SDK on Windows IIRC)?

Fastboot is both a program on the computer and a mode on the phone.
Ahhh.. No, sorry. How should I do that? .. "part of the SDK on Windows IIRC??" For those non-teckies, a link to a quickstep tutorial, or at least an explanation would be good. Sorry for being dim,

OK.. Installed SDK tools and now going to try Fastboot again.
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Ahhh.. No, sorry. How should I do that? .. "part of the SDK on Windows IIRC??" For those non-teckies, a link to a quickstep tutorial, or at least an explanation would be good. Sorry for being dim,
Sorry, it's hard to post links from TapaTalk while travelling, which is where I was when I sent that.

But it's step 3 of this very guide: it tells you to go to the adb and fastboot faq (and provides a link) and to follow the setup instructions. The setup instructions are the second item in that faq, "how do I set up my windows PC to use adb and fastboot?".

I can't add a lot to them because I don't use Windows very much at all myself.
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Sorry, it's hard to post links from TapaTalk while travelling, which is where I was when I sent that.

But it's step 3 of this very guide: it tells you to go to the adb and fastboot faq (and provides a link) and to follow the setup instructions. The setup instructions are the second item in that faq, "how do I set up my windows PC to use adb and fastboot?".

I can't add a lot to them because I don't use Windows very much at all myself.

Great.. Fastbooted successfully. Now going to root and finally get Jelly Bean onto my Desire! Phew. thanks for all your help (so far)


Now running Cyanomod 10 successfully. Many thanks. Now just need to sort out the Apps2SD and I'll finally be sorted. Cheers
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Hi,

New to the forum but have spent a while reading.
Was following the guide but got stuck at "adding custom recovery", it's probably something simple but in command prompt when I use the command "fastboot flash recovery c:\file location" I get the reply ""fastboot" is not a recognized command".
Any pointers?

Edit: should I be in ADB shell?

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Hi Hottomato, and welcome to AF

You need to install fastboot on your computer. It's step 3 of this guide, where it tells you to follow the setup instructions in the adb & fastboot faq.
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Hi Hadron, Thanks for the reply.

I have (i believe) installed fastboot.
I think I was in the wrong directory. In the programs files directory c:\Program Files\android-sdk\platform-tools\ there is an application called fastboot.
Am I right in thinking this is what I'm trying to use with the "fastboot flash recovery" command?
i.e. from cmd I should type "cd c:\Program Files\android-sdk\platform-tools"
then from that directory type "fastboot flash recovery c:\Users\Documents\Rooting\recovery.zip" where c:\Users\Document\Rooting\recovery.zip is the file I am trying to flash?

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i mean recovery.img not .zip
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That sounds about right to me.

Test it by connecting the phone (in fastboot mode) and typing "fastboot devices". That should return the phone's serial number. If you get that, it means that your fastboot program on the PC is working and talking to the phone correctly. I always do this before I use fastboot for anything more serious
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Congratulations, you're S-OFF and Rooted!
Cheers, next stop a2sd but thats a different thread.
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I have done the S-off and custom recovery and am now on to rooting. I am a novice at this and do not understand how you get the rooting zip file from my computer (running windows 7) to the micro sd card in my phone. It may be obvious to everyone else but not to me, sorry!
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The easiest way is to connect the phone to the pc via usb, mount the card from the phone (do HTC call it disk drive mode? It's been a couple of years since I used HTC software) and use windows explorer to copy the file to your sd.

If you've already installed a custom recovery there should be an option to mount the card over usb in the recovery menu, if you don't want to boot back in Android.

Or use a card reader if you have one.
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Hi,

I finally managed to do it, many thanks for all your help and guidance.

My HTC Desire is now S-OFF and Rooted.

I would appreciate if you could point me in the direction regarding the below points,

a - How to increase the phones storage, I have a 16G sdcard in the phone.

b - How to stop (remove) some of the apps that I don't require.


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There are two ways to increase storage, both described in the "root memory faq", which is linked from the All Things Root Guide sticky post in this forum (red link in my signature).

Basically these are:

* add an ext-format partition to the card (a linux file format) and a script that will move apks, and often the dalvik cache, to the partition. Many custom ROMs have this script built in, and you can add it to most others.

* use a smaller ROM than the HTC Sense one, then a custom hboot which shrinks the /system partition (where the ROM lives), allowing the space to be added to the /data partition (your "internal storage").

As I say, the guide gives more info on both.

As for removing apps you don't need, if you are S-Off you can simply uninstall them. However, do this with care because sometimes there are other things which depend on them. A safer way is to "freeze" them using Titanium Backup - safer because it is simple to undo - which stops them running. I would always recommend taking a nandroid backup before messing with system apps, just in case you get something badly wrong (the worst mistakes can stop the phone booting, in which case a nandroid restore will fix it).
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So you decided to flash a custom ROM. Did you take a backup from recovery first?

Did you do a factory reset before flashing the ROM? If not, that's why it won't boot. But did you back up apps and data before flashing? It's sometimes possible to recover them if not by flashing a rooted stock ROM instead (without a wipe) but it doesn't always work.
Great! reading this solved my problem
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Thanks to your excellent guide, I have been able to S-off and root my HTC Desire and install cyanogen 10 with excellent results, in spite of being a novice! Only one problem. Whilst I can see a camera app under "manage apps" it does not appear on the app page so I cannot open it. Any suggestions?
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That is very odd. What happens if you try to add a shortcut to your desktop?

Could it have been hidden in the app drawer? I've never used a JB-based ROM (and this won't be an official CM10 on the Desire), so don't know what quirks there might be.
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Probably best if I go direct to cyanogen. Making shortcuts is very weird and I have not succeeded yet (you have to use a slider). Another weird thing is that, on the locked screen, when you unlock you get a momentary "ghost" of the phone app (which also appears under "locked screen" with the slider mechanism). Have to say that the cyangen 10 take on Jelly Bean is really good and virtually bug free, even on the Desire (except for the camera). Thanks anyway, you help has been invaluable. I am nearly 70 years old so it is never too late to learn a new skill!
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Have to use a slider? You can't just long-press on the screen and then select "add shortcut" from the options?

I'm going to have to try something newer than Gingerbread so that I know how these interfaces work....
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Can you recommend a fast and stable custom ROM for the HTC Desire, with AP2SD.


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hi hadron
now my htc desire is having a bad situation.
it can't boot into android and my 4ext recovery seems ok already.
now my current rom is unknown and the recovery shows an error it is error mounting sd card. EVEN I PUT BACK MY SD CARD INSIDE TO THE PHONE THE INFO OF SIZE STILL SHOWS THAT --MiB.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY AND WHAT SHOULD I DO ABOUT IT...

I WANT TO INSTALL RUNNYMEDE AIO ROM OR CAN YOU SUGGEST ANY BETTER AND STABLE ROM FOR ME........
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Can you recommend a fast and stable custom ROM for the HTC Desire, with AP2SD.


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There are several. If you want an AOSP ROM (not Sense) I would recommend Oxygen. It has been removed from the list at XDA but is still available from the developers website. Oxygen Downloads
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Have you got a card reader? If so can a computer see the card.

It sounds like the card may have been corrupted when you disconnected it. If so you may have to reformat it. But would be good to try with a computer first.
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hi guys, i'm a complete noobie at these things.
I was trying to follow the instructions to get S-off, but only got as far as step 4. The beta key that comes up on the revolutionary website doesn't work on the program. I've tried many times, anyone got any ideas?
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I'm sure you've checked but make sure the info is entered exactly as it appears on your phone.
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Copy and paste is the best advice I have. I had a similar problem last time I tried testing it and that was the answer.
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Thanks for the recommendation, I don't know much about ASOP ROMs and how they look and feel, but I will check it out.

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Oxygen is rock solid but if you want a little more being there are a number of themes versions like the ever popular Mildwild.
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Hi,

I was already rooted with CWM so now I just wanted to S-OFF.
I set up all the steps. Tested fastboot - it returned the serial number of my phone. All looked good.
Now I ran the Revolutionary.exe... it has been 15 min, but nothing much happening...
I just see "waiting for device" message on the revolutionary prompt....
Is something wrong? how long should it take....
Should i leave it as it is? or stop it?

Pls help

Regards,
Raj

EDIT -- I took a chance and disconnected. I was in fastboot mode in phone so thought that could be the reason. Tried running the revol with phone on (in normal mode).
Though here the Device was recognized, Caroline gave up with error. "caroline failed but had this to say: entation fault"
Found out this is due to ICS/JB roms. The process does not work with these roms.
I flashed back one of the Sense roms with 2.3.* and ran the file.
Perfectly S-OFF!!!

Thanks a ton for the guide.
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Hi all, I want to S-OFF to modify my partitions but I only have HBOOT 0.80 so I can't use Revolutionary. I've read I need to flash a stock Sense ROM and that will automatically update my HBOOT, is this right?
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First of all take a nandroid back up.
Run the gingerbread RUU
Then continue with the guide.

You will be able to restore your current set up when you have S-off & have reflashed a recovery
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Sorry again but where exactly is the username and password for the clockwork mod recovery? I can't seem to find it
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Sorry again but where exactly is the username and password for the clockwork mod recovery? I can't seem to find it
Username: androidforums
Password is currently: thankfkforthat
If updated it can usually be found in the last fewposts of this thread.

However the current recommendation is to use 4EXT Touch Recovery.

I suggest you run Revolutionary & say no to install recovery. That will get you S-Off then follow this guide to install 4EXT.
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Great tutorial! Very nice!

However, I got stuck in "Adding custom recovery" part. I have the recovery.img and I had no problems in the earlier steps. As many other people I do not get pass the "< waiting for device >" part.

I have made sure I am in FASTBOOT MODE and I clearly see the text "FASTBOOT USB" on my phone. After that I type, in the terminal on my computer, in the right directory: "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" and I get "< waiting for device >" - no more. However, when I type "sudo fastboot devices" it finds my device - I get the serial number! I try again - but with the same result.

Some people had problems with the drivers, but that cannot be the problem because it finds my device - right? So, what can be the problem? I am out of ideas

I anyone has a clue and wants to help I would be very thankful!
By the way, I am running Linux Mint 14. Thanks in advance!



I know this is not recommended but, theoretically, if I skip this step, will I be unable to make recovers with the 4Ext app later or even continue the rooting process?
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Hi J_ohan, and welcome to AF

You need a custom recovery to proceed. You can change it later, but you need one to start. And you can't skip this and use the 4Ext app to install recovery because that needs root as well as S-Off.

If "sudo fastboot devices" works, but "fastboot flash recovery" doesn't, at the risk of suggesting the obvious have you tried "sudo fastboot flash..."?

I'm sure you have, so more practically, can you boot into hboot mode and check that it says "revolutionary" at the top and "S-Off"? If not then revolutionary hasn't done its stuff and that would explain why the fastboot flash won't work.
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Thanks so much for the quick reply!!!

Perhaps it was the sudo-thing (I am a bit unsure if I wrote it before) or some magic, but now it worked!
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Hi Hadron tried following the steps listed got lost towards the end and now hopefully not in a mess.Managed S-off.Used Android flasher to install 4ext recovery.Through error managed to delete the system.Now all ive got is
the 4 ext recovery and the following listed
revolutionary
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP- 031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO- 5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010
Suppose i format everything from my system to sd card what steps do i need
and could u suggest a stock or stable rom.
Thanks for reading.
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Hi Hadron tried following the steps listed got lost towards the end and now hopefully not in a mess.Managed S-off.Used Android flasher to install 4ext recovery.Through error managed to delete the system.Now all ive got is
the 4 ext recovery and the following listed
revolutionary
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP- 031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO- 5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010
Suppose i format everything from my system to sd card what steps do i need
and could u suggest a stock or stable rom.
Thanks for reading.
Sorry its S-OFF
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