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Old October 6th, 2012, 09:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default is ice cold sandwich all up and running ok now?

specifically the videocam?

want to flash it, but i need my camera to be ok for pics and vids. is there anything not working on it?

and hows battery life compare to ARHD you reckon?

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Look, it depends on your taste. You can flash trickdroid,virtous infinity,sabsa bliss, all nice sense roms, but as you know sense is bloatd with stuff you dont need, so battery can be queastionable. Camera works on all three roms and its great quality. Other ics rom is very good by lordclockan his 8.7 has working cam and video. Now battery life depends on your usage, and im sure if you browse trough this forum you will find ways to preserve it on any rom.
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Look, it depends on your taste. You can flash trickdroid,virtous infinity,sabsa bliss, all nice sense roms, but as you know sense is bloatd with stuff you dont need, so battery can be queastionable. Camera works on all three roms and its great quality. Other ics rom is very good by lordclockan his 8.7 has working cam and video. Now battery life depends on your usage, and im sure if you browse trough this forum you will find ways to preserve it on any rom.
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No disrespect meant, but I guess we are all just thinking, why not make a Nandroid backup and give it a try. If you don't like it, you can restore the back-up in 5 minutes.

I appreciate your being cautious, but when we rooted it was for a bit of an adventure. Just flash Ice Cold Sandwich 8.7. I don't think you will regret it. We can sort out battery life when you have Ice Cold installed.

Will even flash it myself if needed to figure things out
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thanks. have flashed it and am loving it so far. im trying to get it how i want it, but theres a few little things i cant find how to change. do you mind me asking on here if anyone can help with little things as and when?

ive changed governor to smartass to try and save battery, today will be the first full days use with it, so im really hoping the battery lasts me the day, thats the main thing.

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Look, it depends on your taste. You can flash trickdroid,virtous infinity,sabsa bliss, all nice sense roms, but as you know sense is bloatd with stuff you dont need, so battery can be queastionable. Camera works on all three roms and its great quality. Other ics rom is very good by lordclockan his 8.7 has working cam and video. Now battery life depends on your usage, and im sure if you browse trough this forum you will find ways to preserve it on any rom.
hmmm.... youre making me feel like i was a little out of order asking that, or silly. but i dont really understand your answer in a way.
yes i can do a nandroid, and in fact i have, and do regularly, i just thought that it may be quicker to ask a simple queston on here to save flashing a rom unecessarily. ive always been made to feel quite welcome asking anything on here.
as for you answer on sense roms, why? i dont really understand all the sense/aosp differences, but why are you quoting me about sense roms when i didnt ask that? just curious why youre describng 3 roms ive never mentioned and what relevance it is.

thanks anyway for your reply, spose im just a bit baffled by it and curious as to whether im missing something.
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thanks. have flashed it and am loving it so far. im trying to get it how i want it, but theres a few little things i cant find how to change. do you mind me asking on here if anyone can help with little things as and when?

ive changed governor to smartass to try and save battery, today will be the first full days use with it, so im really hoping the battery lasts me the day, thats the main thing.

thanks again
If I remember correctly from my last Ice Cold install (8.6.1) what I could not figure out how to do was adjust voltages (or was that Jelly Time) . I should really jeep more notes. Think I will flash it and see if I can still least adjust smartassV2 governor settings.

If battery life disappoints give me a day or two to catch up with you.
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With ice cold sandwich i had one of the best battery life ever. you should put governer smartassv2, 240mhz-1024mhz. You could undervolt for about 100mv, but it could make the system a bit unstable. Try the roms, it wont take much, just do a nand before you do it.

I was quite tired when i wrote the reply, sorry for the confusing reply. I was saying that ics sense roms have the best camera.
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Tbh I think the ICS roms are the best they're going to get. Personally I'm not a fan of them now. I've tried Jellytime and I like it more, though after running it as a daily rom for a while I still end up going back to Virtuous Affinity v205.0 as I get 2 days battery life out of this with a few tweaks. How much longer I will stick with the trusty DHD is another point.
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I've always changed my governor to smartass v2 as well

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1. first question that comes to mind is the keyboard. i prefer the ARHD keyboard, and i also cant find where to stop the keys vibrating. do i need to download another keyboard and flash it from recovery?

2. i cant find that theme that comes in all the pics where the minimalistic text is shown across the screen. apparently its a free sense theme, but i cant find where to get it. i also installed the minimalistic text app, and put a widget on the homescreen, but whatever setting i put the text to, its always tiny writing. i change the 'dip' size and it changes the writing in the settings to a big 'SAMPLE' but its still the same on the screen when i go back to it.

anyone care to solve those bad boys for me please? :-)

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1. first question that comes to mind is the keyboard. i prefer the ARHD keyboard, and i also cant find where to stop the keys vibrating. do i need to download another keyboard and flash it from recovery?

2. i cant find that theme that comes in all the pics where the minimalistic text is shown across the screen. apparently its a free sense theme, but i cant find where to get it. i also installed the minimalistic text app, and put a widget on the homescreen, but whatever setting i put the text to, its always tiny writing. i change the 'dip' size and it changes the writing in the settings to a big 'SAMPLE' but its still the same on the screen when i go back to it.

anyone care to solve those bad boys for me please? :-)

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Vibration/haptic feedback settings are usually in Settings ---> Sound.

Minimalistic Text is an app that can create widgets.

If you want Sense like icons you can install this theme.
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Vibration/haptic feedback settings are usually in Settings ---> Sound.

Minimalistic Text is an app that can create widgets.

If you want Sense like icons you can install this theme.
no, cant find haptic anywhere.

slowly getting to grips with the minimalistic text, but still cant make it do what i want. any experts? i want it like this, and with this theme, but cant find it.


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no, cant find haptic anywhere ...
Settings > Sound ... the near the bottom in the 'System' section.

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Will be flashing this when I get home tonight.

Minimalistic Text requires a lot of trial and error, but you don''t have to start from scratch. You can edit your existing efforts.
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Got home early today. Only 2 PM and I am sleepy already. But had to start work early this morning. Well, it gives me Ice Cold time.
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Settings > Sound ... the near the bottom in the 'System' section.

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i dont have it there. in that section ive just got system volume, dial pad touch tones, touch sounds, screen lock sounds, vibrate on touch. these are all tickboxes that are unticked.
then ive got camera sounds and volume adjust sound wich are ticked.

id assume if anything it would be the vibrate on touch, but it doesnt say haptic, and its unticked anyway.

btw, is there no other keyboard on this rom? will i have to go find the one from ARHD and flash it seperately?

thanks for the advice on minimalistc text, im slowly getting there. very complicated tho. normal, accented and non accented texts?? in seperate boxes? confusing :-)
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Give me a few minutes, setting up Google account on Ice Cold Sandwich now.

Settings > Sound > Vibrate on Touch = Basically turns haptic feedback on and off.

Keyboards. I recommend SwiftKey.

By the way, what launcher are you using?
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Last time I installed this ROM (early September) I had not yet learned how to edit Init.d scripts.

We have tons of governors, loads of clock speeds and voltage controls. This is going to be fun
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i dont have it there. in that section ive just got system volume, dial pad touch tones, touch sounds, screen lock sounds, vibrate on touch. these are all tickboxes that are unticked.
then ive got camera sounds and volume adjust sound wich are ticked.

id assume if anything it would be the vibrate on touch, but it doesnt say haptic, and its unticked anyway. ...
This is the one. I guess they don't say 'haptic' has noone would know what they were talking about. So they use 'vibrate on touch'.

Did you clear caches etc before flashing?

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Yep I cleared caches and dalvik first. I've also downloaded SwiftKey keyboard from the market to try and that's not vibrating so I'll see how I get on with it thanks.
I'm using apex launcher at the moment but have tried the others and don't see much difference between them.

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Are you saying you cannot enable vibration on the capacitive buttons and keyboard? Even with the Vibrate on Touch option ticked?

Sorry, was busy setting up my phone.



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I've been running Ice Cold Sandwich for a week or so now and am impressed with it. I've never closely monitored my battery usage that much since I'm almost always near a charger (thankfully) but I do get the impression that the battery usage (for me at least) is slightly better than it was with GB. Not very scientific, I'll grant you :-)

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My own impressions are similar to BrutalUK. A well built ROM like Virtuous Affinity is hard to beat in battery life for the following reasons
  • undervolted around 10% at the higher clock speeds.
  • a good range of auto-brightness options.
  • oc_deamon which can run screen on/screen off profiles without a back ground app

I have never spend much time on Ice Cold Sandwich but it looks like a good ROM to tweak for long battery life.
  • This ROM is also undervolted though a bit less aggressively than VA.
  • Has powerful auto-brightness options

I was thinking of re-tweaking the smartassV2 governor. The way it is tweaked right now (ahem) does not make too much sense to me. If you guys are willing, maybe you can test the settings too.
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no, i mean i cant stop the keyboard vibrating, even when that box is UNticked :-) i dont want it to vibrate. i dont like that little keyboard either. ive just downloaded the swiftkey3 keyboard from the market and that doesnt vibrate. still trialling it.

i want that theme from your pic! where do i get it? :-D and how did you set your minimalistic text to display that format over 2 lines? im nearly there, but cant get it to say "eighth OF october". cant get an 'of' from anywhere :-)

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Settings > Sound > Vibrate on Touch

Turns haptic feedback on and off from the 4 capacitive buttons and some on screen functions. I have never used the stock ICS keyboard so I am not knowledgeable about that.

THAT LITTLE KEYBOARD DRIVES ME NUTS.

SwiftKey has its own haptic feedback settings in Apps > SwoftKey 3 > Advanced.
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Settings > Sound > Vibrate on Touch

Turns haptic feedback on and off from the 4 capacitive buttons and some on screen functions. I have never used the stock ICS keyboard so I am not knowledgeable about that.

THAT LITTLE KEYBOARD DRIVES ME NUTS.
Yeah... turns off haptic feedback, but still vibes when texting. Think that the only workaround would be as ral says...

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Default smartassV2 on ICS 8.7

ICS 8.7 is clocked by default at 1075 MHz @ 1075 vdd.
Stock HTC ROM is clocked by default at 1024 MHz @ 1200 vdd.

Default smartassV2 settings on ICS 8.7 are as follows:
  • Ideal wake frequency is 921 MHz. This is the speed the governor tries to target when awake. Slower ramp up when it passed this speed.
  • Sleep wake-up frequency is 998 MHz. This is the speed the CPU jumps to when the screen wakes.
  • Ideal sleep frequency is 614 MHz This is the speed the governor tries to target when at sleep.
  • Ramp up step is 192 MHz. When it jumps from one frequency to another, it jumps in 192 MHz increments.
  • The CPU ramps up when CPU load measure over a period averages to 70%
  • Ramp down step is set to 0. Meaning this setting is disabled. Not sure what this does.
  • The CPU ramps up when CPU load measure over a period averages to 30%

Off hand, I don't see the point of having the ideal wake frequency lower than the wake up frequency.

614 MHz ideal sleep frequency seems to be a bit high. The entire range of clock speeds is available at sleep, but this is the speed the processor targets. Looking at CPU stats, the ROM spends most of its time at 230 MHz when asleep and rarely spends any time at 614 MHz.

Was thinking...

Ideal wake frequency of 768 MHz or 921 MHz.
Sleep wake-up frequency same as ideal wake up frequency.
Ramp up step of 70.
Ideal sleep frequency of 230 MHz.

The other option is to make it more performance oriented (ondemand like) but with a sleep governor.
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Anyone else getting garbled distorted fonts. It goes away in a few seconds. Was wondering if this is a common issue.

Update: Apparently it is a known ICS AOSP issue.

Update 2: If you enabled the back button kill function, using this clears it up.
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weirdly enough, the settings on my swiftkey keyboard say haptic is turned on, yet it doesnt vibrate. complete opposite of the android one. ah well, its how i want it so ill leave it :-D

ral, is that a picture of the theme on your phone? if so where did you get it?

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Aside from checking the tick box, you should select Haptic duration and move the slider to your desired feedback level.



The screenshots are from my own phone. Nova Launcher. Two Minimalistic Text widgets and everything else is default Ice Cold. The wallpaper, I think I posted a link in one of our discussion threads. Will try to find it later.

Update: Found the link to the wallpaper.
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how do i take a pic of my screen if i ever need to ask questions about it? i think i read it was hold down power and press home, but that never works for me. it either tries to switch off or asks which launcher i want to use.
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Settings > ROM Control > Power menu options > Show screen shot

The option will now appear when you long press the power button.

Dig around the settings. Check the Nova or Apex settings too. It is amazing what you will find in there. I have never used most of the options, but you can create some amazing home screens in there if you are the type.
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The option will now appear when you long press the power button.

Dig around the settings. Check the Nova or Apex settings too. It is amazing what you will find in there. I have never used most of the options, but you can create some amazing home screens in there if you are the type.
thanks, just enabled it and taken a pic :-)

as for the apex and nova settings, ive just changed them over and had a look but all the settings seem the same, same wallpapers, same themes etc. there doesnt seem anything in there that i havent tried already to change the look.
ive downloaded a couple of wallpapers from your link, and ill hook the phone up to pc in a bit and stick em in the wallpaper folder if i can find it thanks :-)

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Phone is back on the charger.

9:57 minutes on battery with 18% remaining
2:24 minutes of screen time (with auto brightness level set at 10)
14 minutes of voice calls
25 minutes of Symphony of Eternity
3G on the whole day with Google email/calendar/contacts sync and GTalk and Viber. Twitter updates every 4 hours.

I kind of get the impression that ICS 8.6.1 was a bit more frugal. But I had the phone on smartassV2 tweaked for performance (more aggressive than the default Ice Cold smartassV2 setting).

Max frequency = 1075MHz
Ideal wake frequency/screen wake frequency = 1075 MHz (921/998 Mhz on default).
Sleep frequency = 230 MHz (614 MHz on default).

Needless to say at this setting Ice Cold runs really fast.

Will try this for tomorrow:

Max frequency = 1075MHz
Ideal wake frequency/screen wake frequency = 768 MHz
Sleep frequency = 230 MHz

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thanks, just enabled it and taken a pic :-)

as for the apex and nova settings, ive just changed them over and had a look but all the settings seem the same, same wallpapers, same themes etc. there doesnt seem anything in there that i havent tried already to change the look. ive downloaded a couple of wallpapers from your link, and ill hook the phone up to pc in a bit and stick em in the wallpaper folder if i can find it thanks :-)
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You can stick the wallpapers pretty much anywhere. The Gallery app should find them.

Am not experienced at configuring Nova/Apex home screens. Let's hope someone else chimes in.
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You can stick the wallpapers pretty much anywhere. The Gallery app should find them.


png file so not sure if itll work :-)

EDIT: it did :-D

EDIT EDIT: its a work in progress. still trying to improve the minimalistic text and wondering if the icons at the bottom can be made smaller and fit 7 on there instead of 5. oh, and the wallpaper of course :-)
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Nova Settings > Dock > Dock Icons

You owe me another pic when you are done.
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thanks a lot :-D

too cluttered at the bottom do you think? and the green spoils the look? or am i just being anal now??? :-D

EDIT: how did you get the blue icons at top of your screen such as the battery icon?
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Blue is the color of the default theme. Too cluttered. Not sure. Will try it myself and see how it does after a day of use.
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ok ive changed the theme and liking the blue, but now my notification bar at the top is light grey instead of blending in with the pic. id post a pic but dont want to litter the thread with loads of pics every time i do something.

its not easy on the eye when i pull the notification bar down, real silvery grey with blue writing which is hard to read. cant find how to change it to black like yours.
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Have you tried going into Settings > Themes and selecting the original theme.
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not sure what the original theme is, theres 3 and one doesnt work, so i tried the other and thats a lot better thnks :-)
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The original theme is 3/3. The one with a green messaging icon.
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The original theme is 3/3. The one with a green messaging icon.
thanks, using it now. wish the messaging icon was blue tho. its not allowed on my home screen now :-D
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Quick question...can anyone tell me how ye can get the date and month in writein on the home screen?? I'm running ice cold sandwich 8.7 and find it very good...everything works for me so for...cheers
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That's done using minimalistic text... an app that lets you create that sort of stuff
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and its hard to get your head round. ill let you quickly know how i did mine. think i set it for horizontal 2X1, then set the text at accented 22 dip, and 20 for non accented just for a bit of change. its a bit of a faff setting up the data boxes, but if you need help just shout. i needed help so ill pass it on :-)

EDIT: just off topic, but thought it worth mentioning, ive had the best battery life ever with this rom, running the smartass governor. im well happy with it. nearly at the stage where i do a nandroid in case anything goes wrong :-)
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just off topic, but thought it worth mentioning, ive had the best battery life ever with this rom, running the smartass governor. im well happy with it. nearly at the stage where i do a nandroid in case anything goes wrong :-)
I was a bit disappointed with my battery life yesterday, but I did tweak smartassV2 for performance. Today, I am have not used the phone much yes (just received 3 emails so far) and the phone has been asleep most of the time since I recharge yesterday, but 3G is on and I have GTalk and Viber running on the background.

10:22 minutes - 92% battery left, on deep sleep 98% of the time.
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I will be leaving you gents at this point. Planned to stay on Ice Cold Sandwich a bit longer, but the longest I have managed to wean myself off Sense is 2-3 days

Also I did find an error in my governor tweaking project. This ROM has a very good range of available clock speeds, and it allowed me to track smartassV2's habits better.

Needless to say I am itching to fix and test my smartassV2 governor settings on Blackout ICS.

Will be back sooner or later. While I never spend more than two to three days on a AOKP ROM (Sense addicted), I flash so many ROM's a full 15-20% of my time is spent on AOKP ROM's.

I leave you in the capable hands of D-U-R-X and the other rebels. Back to the Death Star for me.

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I will be leaving you gents at this point. Planned to stay on Ice Cold Sandwich a bit longer, but the longest I have managed to wean myself off Sense is 2-3 days
thanks for your help with this rom mate. as a relative newbie to this, i dont really know the differences between aokp and sense. i know sense is sort of the interface, but i dont know what a sense rom has that this ice cold sandwich doesnt for instance. i picture sense roms being full of 'rubbish' that use up the battery. am i right?

ill still read the other threads on different roms with interest, you never know, i may get itchy fingers like you :-D

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