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Old July 11th, 2010, 06:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Fellow Androids

Can I ask how you put music on your HTC Desire? I will just quickly explain how I do it:

-Plug in the HTC Desire with the supplied lead (the one that also enables you to charge the phone via the mains plug)

-Select the Disk Drive (mount as disk drive) option, when I do this a window automatically appears on the screen of my laptop, and the option I click on is "Open folder to view files (it says "using windows explorer" underneath this option)

-Another window then opens up which is the contents of my phone (Comes up as Removeable Disk (F )

-From here I open my music folder on my laptop, position each window side by side, and drag'n'drop the music I want into my phone (displayed as Removeable Disk (F )

-I then go back to my phone, select "charge only", and a message briefly appears in the notification bar at the top of the phone which says "preparing SD Card"

-When I go into my music player it will either say "no music found" or (As I have done this countless times now!) it will show the music I have put on the phone with a message that says "unable to play this type of file", even though it is an MP3.

So my question is how do you all put your music on your HTC Desire? Is there anything I must do to ensure the music will play, or even stay on the phone?

I've tried other ways aswell like:

-ejecting the phone from my laptop by right clicking on "Removeable Disk (F and selecting "eject disk

-putting the music into a "Music" folder

-not putting the music into a "music" folder, instead just dragging and dropping into the phone without putting it into any folder

-turned the phone off and on again (As I'm sure I read somewhere that the phone will recognise the music is on the phone once it has been rebooted

Thanks in advance for any advice given, or if anyone on here has experienced similar issues

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Old July 11th, 2010, 06:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i made a folder on the sd card root directory named 'mp3' with all music in there... try it
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I don't know what the matter could be, as I follow the same procedure and I can see the music appear immediately..

In the music player, tap the button on the bottom left, and go to tracks. Do you see anything there?
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Thanks for your replies fellas

I have tried formatting the SD card, and now the music is being uploaded without any problems so far

If anything weird happens from now on I will update on this thread, but for now all is well!

Anyway thanks to you both for your replies, much appreciated,
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oooh, mine does this to!?! i make sure all the music is there and when i go to play it on my phone and it says its unsupported, then when i plug it in to my laptop the 97% of my mp3's have dissapeared as if deleted by my phone.. why oh why?? very frustrated.. (could it have any thing to do with the new 32gb card i bought)
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I'm having the same prob as Glittafly, hve even tried using a microSD card reader, still having the same prob. Anyone know what we can do to fix the issue??
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I'm having the same prob as Glittafly, hve even tried using a microSD card reader, still having the same prob. Anyone know what we can do to fix the issue??
Make sure your phone is not plugged into the computer, then format the SD card IN THE PHONE using the option under Settings, SD and phone storage, Format. Do not use your computer or any other device. Then create a folder for your music (call it music, tunes, MP3 or whatever you want) and drag and drop the files. As soon as you disconnect the USB cable or switch the phone to "charge only", it will find and play the songs.
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I just gave it a try, but I can only unmount the SDcard, the option to format wasn't available.
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are any of you using apps2sd+ either manual install or via a custom rom?
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i just clicking and gragging from my music folder to the music folder on my sd card. It worked fine that way on the original sd that came with it, but no end of problems with the new 32g ive purchased.

After i made my second post, i tried unmounting the sd card, then the format option was available, so ive now formated the card via the phone, dragged 2 music folders from my pc to the sd, the folders copied, but there was no music in the on the sd card, same thing with my rom folder. So now it seems like the folders are moving over, just not the files within them. Im starting to think it might be a dodgy sd card
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Now ive turned my phone on and off, and 3 quarters of all the files that were copied have disappeared. No music, Photos, roms etc

Any suggestions people?? Im getting sick of carrying my old iphone with me for music, and im ready to throw my desire at a brick wall!! >=(
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not being funny, and I mean no offence, but where did you get your 32gb card, what brand is it?

It sounds like your card could be fake, a smaller card labled and posing as 32gb.

if not, and i hope not, maybe try partitioning the card into 2 sections might help.
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its a kingston, was purchased from a shop here in the city in melbourne. Although, now that i think back to it, it wasnt bought from a very reputable shop, as in, the type of owners are the sort to play a fcken dodgy trick like this. so wouldnt suprise me if its a fake.
if thats the case, they will be getting a major ear blasting when i go in tomorrow or monday.
Weird thing is, its saying 32g on the card, and shows as a 32 gig when connected to my pc, so that would have to mean its a 32g wouldnt it. excuse my ignorance, but im not THAT computer savy :S But is there a way they can make a 2gig card show as a 32g when connected to a pc??
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yes, they can fake the byte count on the card, and print any number they like on the cards exterior. there are a lot of fake 16gb and 32gb cards about.

a 32gb card wont show 32gb of space in windows, probably more like 28gb or 29gb due to the difference between megabits and megabytes, so if your card shows 32gb in windows then I would say there is a good chance its fake.

I hope im wrong.
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the shop you bought it from may not be aware its fake by the way.... (if it is).
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its showing 31.2gb exactly, if i have time on my lunch break tomorrow, ill be taking it back to the shop i bought it from to have a chat with them. Need to determine, if they bought it straight through the manufactors, or from a third party. If it was from a third party, im guessing there is a pretty high chance its a fake.

Do you by any chance have a 32g that you can check on ur pc to check whats showing up? would help alot when i go to the shop tomorrow.

Ive pretty much given up on the 32g card, and am just using the 2g that came with the phone again. Looks like ill be using my iphone formusic until i can get this sorted.
Only downside ive found to these phones is that they could have come with a larger standard storage space on the phone, and then had the sd expansion.
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are any of you using apps2sd+ either manual install or via a custom rom?
i ask this for a valid reason, can you answer it please
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I'm also having this issue,my card may well be fake but i'm also using app2sd. What was your reason for asking this rastaman-fb?
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I too am having this problem with a brand new HTC Evo 4G and stock 8GB card. It did work fine at one time. I am moving apps to the SD card since the Evo has a paultry 400MB of internal space. :-(

I've tried to delete the cache for Music player and stuff but no luck.
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hi i also had this problem on my desire hoe i fixed it was unmounting the sd card (in the phone) then formatting it (also in the phone) fixed the problem btw my music was dissappearing but the space was still taken up and the songs that would play played really fast
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So as per the advice here, I dual booted into Linux and tar balled up the entire SD card. Then I formatted the SD card by physically removing it. Then once back into the Evo (since I couldn't format it whilst IN the Evo for some reason) I re-formatted it using the Evo. Then I pulled the card out and untarred the files back onto the SD.

Now when I boot up the Evo, my music DOES show up, but all my applications that were "on the SD" say "the linked program is no longer installed on your phone". WTF!!!!? How do I get them all back without re-installing everything and re-setting it all up again?! This is ridiculous!
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you cant, if they were "installed" to sdcard then they are gone.
this is why people tend to root devices and use tools like titanium backup and nandroid backups in recovery as its more convenient
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you cant, if they were "installed" to sdcard then they are gone.
Why are they gone? It's an exact copy of the data that was on there before the format!?!? Re-read my post. I can SEE all the .apk files and directories and all that stuff on the card since I restored them from the tar-ball. I don't understand why Android can't find them again, unless it tried to be "too smart" for it's own good and when I said "format SD" from AndroidOS, it wiped out all it's internal links to that SD cards ID or something stupid like that which would be completely asinine.
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this is why people tend to root devices and use tools like titanium backup and nandroid backups in recovery as its more convenient
I can't root my phone. unrevoked3 recovery reflash tool, v3.22 doesn't support my Evo version it seems . I've tried it several times. Not to mention, I'm still in the 30 day trial period deciding if I want to even keep this thing or not -- as it stands, I'm tired of fighting with this thing and think I'll return it. Android is just not ready for prime time. It's still a "hackers" toy it seems. Maybe in another year or so they'll have it polished up and work out all these poor design decisions (I hope). I really wanted to love this phone.

I just find it absolutely ridiculous that I can't make a stable backup of EVERYTHING in my phone without "rooting" or jumping through hoops. My PalmOS Treo/Centro has done this for 20 years.
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Why are they gone? It's an exact copy of the data that was on there before the format!?!? Re-read my post. I can SEE all the .apk files and directories and all that stuff on the card since I restored them from the tar-ball. I don't understand why Android can't find them again, unless it tried to be "too smart" for it's own good and when I said "format SD" from AndroidOS, it wiped out all it's internal links to that SD cards ID or something stupid like that which would be completely asinine.

I can't root my phone. unrevoked3 recovery reflash tool, v3.22 doesn't support my Evo version it seems . I've tried it several times. Not to mention, I'm still in the 30 day trial period deciding if I want to even keep this thing or not -- as it stands, I'm tired of fighting with this thing and think I'll return it. Android is just not ready for prime time. It's still a "hackers" toy it seems. Maybe in another year or so they'll have it polished up and work out all these poor design decisions (I hope). I really wanted to love this phone.

I just find it absolutely ridiculous that I can't make a stable backup of EVERYTHING in my phone without "rooting" or jumping through hoops. My PalmOS Treo/Centro has done this for 20 years.
i can understand your frustration but its not an exact copy, when you use the froyo apps2sd it creates unique links to the files on the sdcard, when its formatted and then rebuild using any other method than a system image (nandroid) then these links are not recreated and they are just seen as dormant apk files.
this is the downside to apps2sd built into froyo
the rooted version puts them on an ext partition and when rooted you can nandroid.
i didnt realise palm backed up everything including apps and lets not exaggerate about "20years" what you gonna back em up to? floppy via parallel port?
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i didnt realise palm backed up everything including apps
Yes, everytime I do a "hotsync" via USB, Bluetooth or IrDA, EVERYTHING in the PalmOS that isn't burned into the ROM is copied to a "\My Documents\Palm" directory. PalmOS is simply a .prc file (palm resource) or a .pdb file (palm database) for each application. This makes it very clean and easy. And you can put any app on the external storage -- you can move them to internal easily too. You also decide at the time of install where it should go. None of this "move to SD" business after the fact.

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and lets not exaggerate about "20 years" what you gonna back em up to? floppy via parallel port?
Okay well maybe 15. I got my first PalmPilot PDA when I founded "Boot" Magazine (now "MaximumPC" in 1996. My point is the same. The fact that I -- as a normal user -- can not make a safe, reliable backup of my phone is absurd. This is more critical than backing up my computer! I'm much more likely to loose, break or have stolen my fancy $500 phone than my desktop computer.

I just find it astonishing that with all these amazing smart phones that have been around for so long that Google / Android (the original startup company that Google bought) would make such poor design decisions and oversights...

I also find it ironic that some of this was no doubt done in the name of "security" and yet the phone is "rootable", so really what have they accomplished? Nothing but frustration.

I believe they should have followed more of the Mac OSX model with their .dmg files (and I'm no phanboi -- I actually hate OSX in general too -- I'm an XP guy myself). Each application should have just been a self contained ".apk" that didn't expand into a plethora of files. It should also contain all your settings rather than use sqllite or xml or whatever else is being used to store your settings. Then you would simply drag/drop these files off the mounted phone for safe keeping. Each one is a little virtual machine in a way. All "secure" and "sand-boxed".
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you are obviously a disgruntled android user, it cannot be helped.
why didnt apple do the same thing with iphone?
most of the apps are just an apk. the problem you have is that you installed to sdcard or moved them to sdcard to conserve on space, if they were on the phone you wouldnt have this problem.
the issue is with htc as they space for apps is very small so you end up moving them.
most people dont have a problem with this unless they completely wipe the device.
you however must have had a tone on the sdcard and tried to do some fancy stuff with your device before youve been even able to root it, thats dangerous in itself. you might have not been able to boot it at all.
yandroid is based on linux
With linux to perform certain tasks you need to run as root or have an app running as root to image the os
Android is no different, unfortunately due to worry about copy-write infringement and security manufacturers make it difficult to root. google do not say "your consumers must not be able to root the device" hell there would be a legal battle and linux would banish the tree entirely

anyway its derailing the thread and its not related to your problem really
I would go and argue your points to evo users.
I appreciate your pain but i dont mess about with stuff untill ive achieved root and got a backup for this reason
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just posted a kind of similar thread - what you are doing works for me (using music folder) but getting the sd card to re-mount after can be tricky while any power supply is attached - once on battery all is good for me. If I choose mount as drive and then charge only it does remount on the phone on the PCs I use.. but I am not sure the desire responds to all USB the same??

If all is ok on batteries than you may have similar problems to me..

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I am an experienced Linux user. I am a senior LAMP developer since PHP version 1 when it was called "Personal Home Page". ;-) So I'm very familiar with "root" and "sudo" and all things Linux/Unix.

My point is that I still find it absurd that I can't make a solid backup of my entire phone in case it's lost, stolen, submerged in water, whatever. It seems that I can use "MyBackup Pro" or "Astro" or something to get SOME applications backed up and SOME data, but not all.

Given that it *is* linux, I expected a tgz of the SD to be "good enough" just as it's good for backing up my entire Linux servers.

Anyways, I'll see if I can root it by the time the 30-day trial is up and then use Titanium and that might just suffice...
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in linux do you commonly install apps to external/removable storage?
i certainly dont

you do on android
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No, however, a symlink still works if the file it points to is deleted and then restored.

Linux doesn't just go and hose up the system because it decided the link doesn't exist anymore. It just says, "oops, file not found". And then if you put the file back, then everything just works again. Magic.

My point being, that Android is trying to be too smart for it's own good and I suspect that the act of me using Android to Format the SD card it knew about, caused it to do MORE than just format. I suspect it went and wiped out any links to said SD card in some internal config/database/etc. thereby
"screwing the pooch" as they say.
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Hi...

I had the same problem using my Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4g... Thanks for the advice. Formatted the SD card, and now they are still there (for now?)

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