Go Back   Android Forums > Android Phones > HTC Desire > Desire - Tips and Tricks

Get excited for the Samsung Galaxy S5! Find everything you need and discuss it in our Galaxy S5 Forum!

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old August 30th, 2011, 12:24 AM   #551 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by staticashes View Post
step #6 isnt specific enough for me, im also a noob. there was a huge list of packages, none are "manuals". how do i know what to install and what not to install? my phone is an optimus 2.2.2...which apparently is also the froyo 2.2
There shouldnt be a step 6. Use this more upto date one:

[Guide] Move more (most) apps to SD without root (Simplified)

SUroot is offline  
sponsored links
Old September 14th, 2011, 05:14 AM   #552 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 61
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 23
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Default

hi
can we use this method for samsung galaxy mini (pop), or is there any other method for this?
techlearn is offline  
Old September 15th, 2011, 06:50 AM   #553 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

If its 2.2, and you have drivers for your device, it should work.

follow this substituting HTC sync for your own drivers

[Guide] Move more (most) apps to SD without root (Simplified)
SUroot is offline  
Old September 22nd, 2011, 04:48 AM   #554 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 5
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Thanks, this is the best quick solution for low internal memory Android 2.2 phones! Google wasn't redirecting me to this!

I did this on a Linux machine. How:
. Instead of "HTC sync" (only for windows) use "USB share" with no need to turn on 3G or WiFi.
. The directory where to run the commands is android-sdk-linux_x86/platform-tools
. use "root ./"(...) before every command, so that you get permissions to run (do "sudo ./adb kill-server" if you've forgot to put "root").

Just a comment for HTC and Google:
This problem was a huge lack of future vision when making HTC Desire; OR was a despicable way to force consumers to buy new phones the next year! Shame on you!

Quote:
Originally Posted by williamj1 View Post
My Noob's Guide to this Process. (The phone doesn't need to be rooted)

*Updated: Widget Info / Guide / Fix *

*Updated 2: Added some more info for windows 7 users and for new SDK*

Note:
  • This requires Froyo 2.2
  • It doesn't void your warranty
  • It doesn't delete existing apps
  • It's perfectly safe
  • It doesn't require rooting.

I realise there are a few threads about this, but I thought I would make a new one for my easier guide, and hopefully people will find it more easily as they won't have to scroll through pages of other threads to find an answer.
I am now successfully running most apps from my SD Card now. I just thought I would make an easier guide as the others are fairly complex for noobs like me. So here is my guide - hope it helps

  1. Download the SDK from here- Android SDK | Android Developers
  2. Extract using something like WinRar
  3. Copy the second folder into the sdk named "android-sdk-windows" to the desktop.
  4. Open the folder on the desktop and open the file, SDK Manager.exe (as no such file as setup.exe exists in the new version of the SDk)
  5. Close the command / windows command prompt window that opens
  6. Untick all options you are promted to download except ones like the manuals, and Essentially, ensure the USB driver option is selected / ticked.
  7. Let these files download
  8. Ensure on your phone, USB Debugging is on - Go to Settings/Applications/Development/USB Debugging and ensure its ticked / on.
  9. Download and install HTC Sync from HTC's website for your device.
  10. Connect your phone by USB and select the HTC sync option when it pops up with charge only, disk mode etc.
  11. Allow the sync to complete.
  12. Open windows command promt. Start / Run
  13. Type in (without quotations) "cmd"
  14. The following should appear. (with your user account instead of William - note its "users" in windows 7, not documents and settings
15. Type in the following after the ">" at each step (without quotations,and including spaces and capital letters)

"cd desktop\android-sdk-windows\tools" (might be "cd desktop\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools" in windows 7)
"adb devices"
"adb shell"
A $ sign should pop up
"pm setInstallLocation 2"
Another $ should pop up

And your done. Close everything, disconnect phone, turn off phone and then turn it back on again.

16. Now the phone will be set to install all apps you install onto the SD card. However, current apps on phone will mostly still be stored on the internal memory. This process doesn't move these apps for you, it adds the ability. So you must now manually move those already installed on the phone.

To do this, go to settings / applications / manage applications
Then you just click on an app, and the move to SD card box should no longer be Grey. So you must now move all the apps you want onto the SD Card.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Note: I would not advise moving apps like widgets, or anything system related. Furthermore, for example, I have the 3g watchdog app constantly running, so it is advisable to keep apps like that on the internal memory.
See below for more information on widgets...

If you get an invalid path message, it suggests it cannot find the required folder you are asking it to. My method only works if you have saved it to the desktop. If you have saved it elsewhere it won't work. You would have to redirect the desktop part of the code ("cd desktop\android-sdk-windows\tools") to somewhere else.

For example if you saved it in my docs instead, it would be - "cd My Documents\android-sdk-windows\tools". That's why I used the desktop, it's far easier to code the cmd to find the file.

Finally, part of the problem is that when you extract the core sdk rar file, it is extracted to a folder wherever it was saved originally titled android-sdk-windows, but in that is another folder called android-sdk-windows, and then only once you open that second folder do you gain access to the tools, usb driver folders and so on. Therefore, you must either, remove the first folder so you are left with just a folder named android-sdk-windows which inside contains tools... or you must recode my above to say "cd Desktop\android-sdk-windows\android-sdk-windows\tools".

Likewise, beware as I can't remember for certain, but I think the sdk in its core form is called android-sdk_r07-windows or something (08/09 too), so rename this to android-sdk-windows.

One final note. Fairly irrelevant to this process but since this is being viewed a lot I'll say it anyway. Don't ever use a task killer. Wrecks the phone! Happened to me, happened to thousands. Ask below for more info.....

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Widget Fix / Guide

Just to clarify about widgets for anyone unclear. There seems to be a bit of confusion here. This may have been said earlier I don't know, but again hopefully this is simpler. Ill add this to the first post too.

With this process, you can still use widgets, but not if they are on the SD Card (which they automatically will be assuming you got my original guide process to work.) Ive tested this, and it works every time for me. I know some widgets are weird but I think it will work. So to get a working widget....

Note: Some irritating widgets may require you to uninstall the app before you proceed to step 1.

  1. Download and install the widget from the android market
  2. Go to Settings/Applications/Manage applications/Downloaded (or All) and find/select your widget.
  3. Select move to phone.
  4. Turn off the phone
  5. Turn on the phone
  6. Voila. Widget should now work.
------------------------------------------------


Good luck. Any questions just ask. Ill check back regularly too. Hopefully, this guide is a little simpler for noobs

William
quide is offline  
Old September 25th, 2011, 04:58 PM   #555 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

Nothing to do with google
SUroot is offline  
Old September 29th, 2011, 04:09 PM   #556 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Cry can I still do it without a HTC phone?

I have a Samsung 2.2 Android phone and when I saw that you needed to download the HTC Sync and I don't was a HTC phone and I would like to use it since I'm running low on Internal memory and some apps can't be moved to the SD card
Thanks !!!
Rebecca- is offline  
Old September 30th, 2011, 03:11 AM   #557 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebecca- View Post
I have a Samsung 2.2 Android phone and when I saw that you needed to download the HTC Sync and I don't was a HTC phone and I would like to use it since I'm running low on Internal memory and some apps can't be moved to the SD card
Thanks !!!
I have already answered this question just a few posts before yours.
SUroot is offline  
Old October 1st, 2011, 01:36 PM   #558 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Hi
I want to do this on my Xperia Play, but I have one question. What will happen if I update my phone ? Do I have to set this option to default and than update or else some trouble may occur during the update ?
Rossetti is offline  
Old October 1st, 2011, 06:14 PM   #559 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

If you update android operating system, it would undo the change. Not sure what affect on an update of the OS would do but as its not installing any apps, it should be fine.
SUroot is offline  
Old October 7th, 2011, 11:28 AM   #560 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Hi, these directions worked perfectly for me. Thanks for taking the time to post them. One issue, when I restarted my phone all of the thumbnail icons for the apps I had moved to the SD card had changed to the default android thumbnail. Once I moved the apps back to the phone and restarted the phone again the icons were restored to their originals. Does anyone know why this is happening or how to properly move the icons along with the apps to the SD card?

Using an unrooted LG Optimus T with stock 2.2 Froyo.
bobjohnson1221 is offline  
sponsored links
Old October 7th, 2011, 11:27 PM   #561 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 5
 
Device(s): Samsung Vitality on CricKet Android Network
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Novasboy
Default this mega-bites (or: Dummies, n00bs, and apps, oh my!)

Quote:
Originally Posted by williamj1 View Post
Thanks for the clarification and somewhat in depth information

Having said that, 3,809 views later and only 1 comment on the word n00b being offensive.... I think i'll stick with the guide title for now :P
no one seems to be offended about the "For Dummies" line of books, so i don't see why a "for n00bs" thread would be offensive either. As for the post itself, i can't seem to figure out what everyone is talking about in here. i stumbled onto this particular thread looking for an answer as to why, when i move an app from the phone to the SD card, it suddenly shows as much smaller than it did before. Example: GameApp1 is 34mb on the phone. I click the "move to SD Card" option, and a few moments later it shows that the move was successful but the 'size' of the app now shows as 415kb instead of 34mb. Now, i am guessing that this is because most of the app is now stored on the sd card and the 415kb is the amount of info that has to be stored on the phone ... kinda like the windows registry? can anyone elaborate on this for me, please and thank you.
Novasboy is offline  
Old October 7th, 2011, 11:32 PM   #562 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 5
 
Device(s): Samsung Vitality on CricKet Android Network
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Novasboy
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobjohnson1221 View Post
Hi, these directions worked perfectly for me. Thanks for taking the time to post them. One issue, when I restarted my phone all of the thumbnail icons for the apps I had moved to the SD card had changed to the default android thumbnail. Once I moved the apps back to the phone and restarted the phone again the icons were restored to their originals. Does anyone know why this is happening or how to properly move the icons along with the apps to the SD card?

Using an unrooted LG Optimus T with stock 2.2 Froyo.
Bob,
this happens, as i understand it, because the 'thumbnail' or icon for an app is stored in the same place as the app itself. when you move the app to the sdcard, the icon (thumbnail) is now in a new location and the android OS needs to reboot to find it again. you're not doing anything wrong. After you move an app to the sdcard, just shut the phone off completely for like 10 - 30 seconds and then restart it and the icons should be back (always works for me, anyway, but i have a Sanyo ZIO, not an Optimus, although i AM using 2.2.1 froyo as far as i know). i hope this helps you.
Novasboy is offline  
Old October 9th, 2011, 12:09 PM   #563 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Denmark
Posts: 10
 
Device(s): HTC Wildfire S
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Does this guide work for HTC Wildfire S?
AmirDK is offline  
Old October 12th, 2011, 03:39 AM   #564 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

Why are you asking in this thread?

[Guide] Move more (most) apps to SD without root (Simplified)
SUroot is offline  
Old October 15th, 2011, 05:47 AM   #565 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

i wish id found this a year ago, thanks so much, VERY benificial
backstormer is offline  
Old October 15th, 2011, 11:29 PM   #566 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 12
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Happy for an LG P500

So, if I am reading this correctly, I can use this to try and clear up memory issues on my LG P500 with 2.2.2 without having to root and potentially, root my phone completely?
aliceguy is offline  
Old October 21st, 2011, 11:00 AM   #567 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 6
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by williamj1 View Post
My Noob's Guide to this Process. (The phone doesn't need to be rooted)

*Updated: Widget Info / Guide / Fix *

*Updated 2: Added some more info for windows 7 users and for new SDK*

Note:
  • This requires Froyo 2.2
  • It doesn't void your warranty
  • It doesn't delete existing apps
  • It's perfectly safe
  • It doesn't require rooting.

I realise there are a few threads about this, but I thought I would make a new one for my easier guide, and hopefully people will find it more easily as they won't have to scroll through pages of other threads to find an answer.
I am now successfully running most apps from my SD Card now. I just thought I would make an easier guide as the others are fairly complex for noobs like me. So here is my guide - hope it helps

  1. Download the SDK from here- Android SDK | Android Developers
  2. Extract using something like WinRar
  3. Copy the second folder into the sdk named "android-sdk-windows" to the desktop.
  4. Open the folder on the desktop and open the file, SDK Manager.exe (as no such file as setup.exe exists in the new version of the SDk)
  5. Close the command / windows command prompt window that opens
  6. Untick all options you are promted to download except ones like the manuals, and Essentially, ensure the USB driver option is selected / ticked.
  7. Let these files download
  8. Ensure on your phone, USB Debugging is on - Go to Settings/Applications/Development/USB Debugging and ensure its ticked / on.
  9. Download and install HTC Sync from HTC's website for your device.
  10. Connect your phone by USB and select the HTC sync option when it pops up with charge only, disk mode etc.
  11. Allow the sync to complete.
  12. Open windows command promt. Start / Run
  13. Type in (without quotations) "cmd"
  14. The following should appear. (with your user account instead of William - note its "users" in windows 7, not documents and settings
15. Type in the following after the ">" at each step (without quotations,and including spaces and capital letters)

"cd desktop\android-sdk-windows\tools" (might be "cd desktop\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools" in windows 7)
"adb devices"
"adb shell"
A $ sign should pop up
"pm setInstallLocation 2"
Another $ should pop up

And your done. Close everything, disconnect phone, turn off phone and then turn it back on again.

16. Now the phone will be set to install all apps you install onto the SD card. However, current apps on phone will mostly still be stored on the internal memory. This process doesn't move these apps for you, it adds the ability. So you must now manually move those already installed on the phone.

To do this, go to settings / applications / manage applications
Then you just click on an app, and the move to SD card box should no longer be Grey. So you must now move all the apps you want onto the SD Card.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Note: I would not advise moving apps like widgets, or anything system related. Furthermore, for example, I have the 3g watchdog app constantly running, so it is advisable to keep apps like that on the internal memory.
See below for more information on widgets...

If you get an invalid path message, it suggests it cannot find the required folder you are asking it to. My method only works if you have saved it to the desktop. If you have saved it elsewhere it won't work. You would have to redirect the desktop part of the code ("cd desktop\android-sdk-windows\tools") to somewhere else.

For example if you saved it in my docs instead, it would be - "cd My Documents\android-sdk-windows\tools". That's why I used the desktop, it's far easier to code the cmd to find the file.

Finally, part of the problem is that when you extract the core sdk rar file, it is extracted to a folder wherever it was saved originally titled android-sdk-windows, but in that is another folder called android-sdk-windows, and then only once you open that second folder do you gain access to the tools, usb driver folders and so on. Therefore, you must either, remove the first folder so you are left with just a folder named android-sdk-windows which inside contains tools... or you must recode my above to say "cd Desktop\android-sdk-windows\android-sdk-windows\tools".

Likewise, beware as I can't remember for certain, but I think the sdk in its core form is called android-sdk_r07-windows or something (08/09 too), so rename this to android-sdk-windows.

One final note. Fairly irrelevant to this process but since this is being viewed a lot I'll say it anyway. Don't ever use a task killer. Wrecks the phone! Happened to me, happened to thousands. Ask below for more info.....

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Widget Fix / Guide

Just to clarify about widgets for anyone unclear. There seems to be a bit of confusion here. This may have been said earlier I don't know, but again hopefully this is simpler. Ill add this to the first post too.

With this process, you can still use widgets, but not if they are on the SD Card (which they automatically will be assuming you got my original guide process to work.) Ive tested this, and it works every time for me. I know some widgets are weird but I think it will work. So to get a working widget....

Note: Some irritating widgets may require you to uninstall the app before you proceed to step 1.

  1. Download and install the widget from the android market
  2. Go to Settings/Applications/Manage applications/Downloaded (or All) and find/select your widget.
  3. Select move to phone.
  4. Turn off the phone
  5. Turn on the phone
  6. Voila. Widget should now work.
------------------------------------------------


Good luck. Any questions just ask. Ill check back regularly too. Hopefully, this guide is a little simpler for noobs

William

Hi, I m useing sony ericsson W8 mobile....
i want move apps to sd cards...
i try ur steps given...
In step 15 up to this command works prooerly "cd desktop\android-sdk-windows\tools"
But, "adb devices" command promt shows like this
'adb' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

Plz, help me to solve it.......
shaun555 is offline  
Old October 21st, 2011, 11:34 AM   #568 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

Guide is out of date.
SUroot is offline  
Old October 24th, 2011, 08:01 PM   #569 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I keep getting a msg that says adb is not recognized as an internal or external command.
85grappler is offline  
Old October 25th, 2011, 03:44 AM   #570 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

Guide is out of date. But essentially its because you're doing it wrong. adb must be in the folder you are using in your command line.

eg if you are using c:\android-sdk\platform\adb then it adb must actually be there. If its not it may be in c:\android-sdk\platform-tools\adb. Amend your command accordingly.

Im sure this is mentioned in all these out of date guides somehwhere.
SUroot is offline  
sponsored links
Old October 25th, 2011, 01:22 PM   #571 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1
 
Device(s):
Carrier: Not Provided

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Cheerz work (in the end) like a dream


I could not get HTC sync to work on my XP or windows 7 Laptop.
My XP pc would not even recognise my phone as an extra hard drive,
But my windows 7 Laptop did, so I just followed the guide
And it worked like a dream, I set the phone when plugged, in to just charge
ropulla is offline  
Old October 26th, 2011, 02:17 AM   #572 (permalink)
ROM Developer
 
SUroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Riddlesden, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 23,926
 
Device(s): SGS3 (Current) HTC Desire (Retired)
Carrier: 3 UK

Thanks: 1,923
Thanked 5,320 Times in 3,994 Posts
Default

You dont need HTC sync to do anything except supply the drivers. You dont need to sync your phone. This guide is very out of date.
SUroot is offline  
Old October 26th, 2011, 04:47 AM   #573 (permalink)
Check six!
 
Slug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Inverness, UK
Gender: Male
Posts: 17,415
 
Device(s): Sony Xperia Z
Carrier: EE

Thanks: 2,651
Thanked 10,863 Times in 5,524 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to Slug slugbrem@gmail.com
Default

mod note: this guide has been superceded by [Guide] Move more (most) apps to SD without root (Simplified)
Slug is online now  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Slug For This Useful Post:
ivanleong90 (October 26th, 2011), SUroot (October 26th, 2011)
Closed Thread


Go Back   Android Forums > Android Phones > HTC Desire > Desire - Tips and Tricks
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://androidforums.com/desire-tips-tricks/174345-how-move-apps-sd-card-unrooted-device-noobs-guide-updated-09-02-11-a.html
Posted By For Type Date
intern hukommelse This thread Refback January 31st, 2012 10:12 AM
Samsung Galaxy Mini S5570 - User opinions and reviews This thread Refback June 25th, 2011 01:13 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:47 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.