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Old October 14th, 2011, 09:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Pros/Cons of HTC Rezound vs. Galaxy Nexus

I keep debating between these phones. Yes, I know they aren't out yet, but like many here I want to pounce the minute they appear. So, I'm doing my homework now so I'm ready on November 10 or (hopefully) sooner.

Much of my decision will be based on the look, feel and handling of the phone when I can see it in person. Each phone has their good points. The Rezound has a faster processor (1.5 vs 1.2) but how big of deal is this? The Prime will have ICS right away, but we don't know when Rezound will have it. I'm disappointed that HTC will launch a phone after ICS is available without it. I always hate having yesterday's technology. If I thought that ICS was coming to Rezound soon, that will help me lean toward it, but we don't really know, do we?

I like sense and am looking forward to 3.5, but would I rather have ICS now as opposed to waiting for it just to have sense 3.5?

So, like many, I am torn between these two. I invite your thoughts and personal opinions. I don't expect anyone to make this decision for me, but am interested in hearing how others are making this decision and their thought process.

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Default Same here

I am torn between these two myself. I bought the Thunderbolt, and I do like HTC sense, but the Nexus sounds great. I remember the OG droid, and loved the regular stock Android experience. But I have grown accustomed to sense. I am loving 4G, and will definitely make sure I keep that.
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I'd always rather have the better hardware than the better software. Software can always be updated but you can't just update your hardware (yes yes, for the smartass that would say "well you can break out the processor etc, etc..." I know that if you really wanted to you could update the hardware). What kind of RAM does each device have? To me that should be a tie breaker if you're looking at one over the other.
 
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I'm excited for ICS, but it's going to take a while for apps to be updated. So I'd personally rather get the Rezound/Vigor and then update to ICS once it's more established.
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Being that this & the Nexus are the same price, it does make the case a little harder for the Vigor. I know that there are rumors of no-SD card (major drawback) & bad battery life, but I'm lucky in that my upgrade date is Nov 16, so I might wait for reviews of both & the RAZR as well as see if Black Friday will bring any deals for these phones.
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I keep debating between these phones. Yes, I know they aren't out yet, but like many here I want to pounce the minute they appear. So, I'm doing my homework now so I'm ready on November 10 or (hopefully) sooner.

Much of my decision will be based on the look, feel and handling of the phone when I can see it in person. Each phone has their good points. The Rezound has a faster processor (1.5 vs 1.2) but how big of deal is this? The Prime will have ICS right away, but we don't know when Rezound will have it. I'm disappointed that HTC will launch a phone after ICS is available without it. I always hate having yesterday's technology. If I thought that ICS was coming to Rezound soon, that will help me lean toward it, but we don't really know, do we?

I like sense and am looking forward to 3.5, but would I rather have ICS now as opposed to waiting for it just to have sense 3.5?

So, like many, I am torn between these two. I invite your thoughts and personal opinions. I don't expect anyone to make this decision for me, but am interested in hearing how others are making this decision and their thought process.

Thanks.
While I agree that it is nice to have ICS out of the box, saying that you're disappointed that it is shipping with old tech is really not quite true.

Phones were shipping with 2.2 up until the middle of 2011. Android 2.3 (GB) came out in the fall of 2010. The thing is HTC has been the best manufacturer for getting their phones updated. The only ones that have really had issues is the Thunderbolt and OG Incredible for the 2.3 update.

As far as if the Rezound will get ICS, yes we don't know 100% that it will. But again look at HTC's history for updating their phones. Each one has gotten at least major OS update, with most getting 2. Show me a device that HTC has not bumped up at least one OS update and I'd give creedence to your argument. The only thing that'd stop it from receiving an update is if the hardware wasn't compatible. But with the Rezound and the Nexus being even (with each having an advantage or 2 over the other) there is no reason that it won't at least see ICS, if not JellyBean also.

I look at their past when deciding on a phone. HTC for the most part has been a lot better than Samsung. The Thunderbolt wasn't their greatest, but when you consider that until November 2010 it was going to be a 3G device, then was redesigned to be 4G, and still shipped 5 months later, that's huge. And of course the others (Samsung, LG, and Moto months later) had less issues, but their phones started out as LTE phones, and they had anywhere from a month to 6 months to shake the kinks out. If the Tbolt had launched in say May, we'd be looking at a completely different phone as far as problems.

As far as Samsung, they've had quite a few issues in the past. Build quality, GPS problems, & the slowest to update between the other android manufacturers. Add to that rumors that the Nexus is going with no microsd slot and no removable battery, and that's enough for me to put the Rezound over it on my list.
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Samsung does way better on battery than HTC and GPS issue went away in SGS2 and newer phones after that. Also it's just confirmed that Galaxy Nexus has large 1900mAh removable battery, dual LED flash.
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Samsung does way better on battery than HTC and GPS issue went away in SGS2 and newer phones after that. Also it's just confirmed that Galaxy Nexus has large 1900mAh removable battery, dual LED flash.
I think you are over-generalizing about the battery life between Samsung and HTC. You have to compare apples to apples.

If the battery specs you provide are accurate, the Samsung will have a battery that has a larger capacity by 280mAh. At the same time, the GN will have a larger, more power-hungry screen and lack the ability to separately set clock speed and voltage in each of its two cores when compared to the Rezound. Reports from those who have used the GN have been disappointing with respect to real-world battery life. The Rezound probably won't be that great either, at least when using LTE since we are still on the 1st gen chips.

The Rezound has a removable battery and a dual-led flash too. If the Rezound has HTC's new camera, the picture and video quality will be amazing. I haven't seen a real world review of the GN's camera- that may be great as well.

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I keep debating between these phones. Yes, I know they aren't out yet, but like many here I want to pounce the minute they appear. So, I'm doing my homework now so I'm ready on November 10 or (hopefully) sooner.

Much of my decision will be based on the look, feel and handling of the phone when I can see it in person. Each phone has their good points. The Rezound has a faster processor (1.5 vs 1.2) but how big of deal is this? The Prime will have ICS right away, but we don't know when Rezound will have it. I'm disappointed that HTC will launch a phone after ICS is available without it. I always hate having yesterday's technology. If I thought that ICS was coming to Rezound soon, that will help me lean toward it, but we don't really know, do we?

I like sense and am looking forward to 3.5, but would I rather have ICS now as opposed to waiting for it just to have sense 3.5?

So, like many, I am torn between these two. I invite your thoughts and personal opinions. I don't expect anyone to make this decision for me, but am interested in hearing how others are making this decision and their thought process.

Thanks.

Truthfully, these phones are fairly similar in specification, but will provide a much different user experience (Sense vs stock Android). If you're not sure about which one to get, wait until they are both out and then check them out in person. Also, check out the user reviews for both of them. Both of these phones are on the cutting edge, and IMHO, you can't go wrong with either one as long as the one you pick is a good fit for your tastes.
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I think you are over-generalizing about the battery life between Samsung and HTC. You have to compare apples to apples.

If the battery specs you provide are accurate, the Samsung will have a battery that has a larger capacity by 280mAh. At the same time, the GN will have a larger, more power-hungry screen, while at the same time, it will lack the ability to separately set clock speed and voltage in each of its two cores when compared to the Rezound. Reports from those who have used the GN have been disappointing with respect to real-world battery life. The Rezound probably won't be that great either, at least when using LTE since we are still on the 1st gen chips.

The Rezound has a removable battery and a dual-led flash too. If the Rezound has HTC's new camera, the picture and video quality will be amazing. I haven't seen a real world review of the GN's camera- that may be great as well.
I'm not sure what you mean by over-generalizing on battery performance. Just name one phone in the same category that HTC does better than any other, let alone samsung. Fascinate, Charge, SGS2 are quite better than Incredible, Tbolt, Sensation on battery respectively.

I guess you are referring to BMX comment on GNex battery. He clarified that it does about 6 hours under non-stop heavy usage and said Bionic does about 4 hours under similar usage. That's pretty good for dual core/LTE. But like you I wouldn't take anything confirmed until real spec is revealed and early reviews pop up.
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I'm not sure what you mean by over-generalizing on battery performance. Just name one phone in the same category that HTC does better than any other, let alone samsung. Fascinate, Charge, SGS2 are quite better than Incredible, Tbolt, Sensation on battery respectively.

I guess you are referring to BMX comment on GNex battery. He clarified that it does about 6 hours under non-stop heavy usage and said Bionic does about 4 hours under similar usage. That's pretty good for dual core/LTE. But like you I wouldn't take anything confirmed until real spec is revealed and early reviews pop up.
In my experience, battery life is different between users. For example, some people complain about the battery in the Dinc2. I love mine, and can almost get 2 days out of a single charge on a stock battery with moderate usage (phone use, web and video use and 4 email accounts using push). On the other hand, I work with some people who use the Fascinate, and they can't stop complaining about having to charge every 4 to 5 hours. At the same time, I know that a lot of people love the Fascinate, and are fine with the battery. My point is there seem to be differences in real-world user experience, so yes, claiming that all Samaung phones are better with battery than all HTC phones is overgeneralizing.

Since nobody has done a review of the battery on the Rezound, we can't get a feel for its battery life, but I'm betting it won't be vastly different from that of the GN.

We will certainly know a lot more once all features and specs for both phones are confirmed, and we see some real world experiences being reported. Until then, this is all speculation.
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Until these phones actually come out, choosing is going to involve a lot of guess work. either could turn out have a nasty bug etc. There both very close spec. wise. Personally, I think most of it is going to turn out to be personal preference based on the UI's (sense/no sense). some people love sense, some hate it.

Both are going to be really good phones I think, and will have the kind of staying power the Dinc. has enjoyed. It been 1 1/2 years since the Dinc. came out and we're just now getting phones that I would consider a significant upgrade.
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Samsung does way better on battery than HTC and GPS issue went away in SGS2 and newer phones after that. Also it's just confirmed that Galaxy Nexus has large 1900mAh removable battery, dual LED flash.
My point on the gps had more to do with how they handle problems. I know some people who still have gps problems.

I've seen everything from a 1700 to a 2200mAh battery rumored for the Verizon Nexus. Assuming the 1900mAh is the one that's another 2 hours of battery if both were equal. The Nexus has a screen that's .3" larger. While that might not seem like a big difference, it'll suck more juice.

As far as dual led flash, big deal every HTC phone I've owned had that. Samsung is the one who doesn't always go that route (some Galaxy S phones only had one led, some had none).
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In my experience, battery life is different between users. For example, some people complain about the battery in the Dinc2. I love mine, and can almost get 2 days out of a single charge on a stock battery with moderate usage (phone use, web and video use and 4 email accounts using push). On the other hand, I work with some people who use the Fascinate, and they can't stop complaining about having to charge every 4 to 5 hours. At the same time, I know that a lot of people love the Fascinate, and are fine with the battery. My point is there seem to be differences in real-world user experience, so yes, claiming that all Samaung phones are better with battery than all HTC phones is overgeneralizing.
Of course, there are always small number of exceptions and it depends on each one using phone. But I was talking about general consensus from reviews, both pro and users, and HTC generally doesn't have upper hand on battery compared to competing phones used in similar condition. If your friend has to recharge Fascinate every 5 hours, obviously he must be using it in very different way than you do with Dinc2. I can also make Fascinate go two days if I pretty much use it as phone/email device.

And 1620mAh doesn't give me confidence in battery life of Vigor given their track record, especially Tbolt. I really hope it doesn't become another Tbolt when it comes to battery life. Though Nexus has larger 4.65" screen, it's got bigger battery and bottom 0.3" will be used for soft buttons with black background. So it won't be much different than 4.3" screen as SAMOLED doesn't consume much power on black.
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You can't really decide yet since we don't know the issues.

Who knows which one doesn't play well with LTE or ships with crappy build or etc..

I know I won't be touching the Samsung Prime if I hear 1 GPS complaint. Samsung has the worst GPS and if it isn't fixed, Vigor will be easy choice for me.
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You can't really decide yet since we don't know the issues.

Who knows which one doesn't play well with LTE or ships with crappy build or etc..

I know I won't be touching the Samsung Prime if I hear 1 GPS complaint. Samsung has the worst GPS and if it isn't fixed, Vigor will be easy choice for me.
Everything I've heard is they've "fixed" the GPS issues. But my Dinc will "lock-in" in about 10-15 seconds if I'm outside, I expect that kind of performance from my next phone too...
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Everything I've heard is they've "fixed" the GPS issues. But my Dinc will "lock-in" in about 10-15 seconds if I'm outside, I expect that kind of performance from my next phone too...
Both my Inc's (1&2) lock extremely fast. My problem again isn't if the initial GPS problem is fixed, but how they handled the one that did have problems. It goes to how quick they are on fixing issues that come up. If they're ok with having you get the next iteration of the phone to solve the issue, then that's not the phone for me.
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Of course, there are always small number of exceptions and it depends on each one using phone. But I was talking about general consensus from reviews, both pro and users, and HTC generally doesn't have upper hand on battery compared to competing phones used in similar condition. If your friend has to recharge Fascinate every 5 hours, obviously he must be using it in very different way than you do with Dinc2. I can also make Fascinate go two days if I pretty much use it as phone/email device.

And 1620mAh doesn't give me confidence in battery life of Vigor given their track record, especially Tbolt. I really hope it doesn't become another Tbolt when it comes to battery life. Though Nexus has larger 4.65" screen, it's got bigger battery and bottom 0.3" will be used for soft buttons with black background. So it won't be much different than 4.3" screen as SAMOLED doesn't consume much power on black.
You are right; the people I work with that use the Fascinate do use it differently than I use my Dinc2- they use it for handset calling and email only. One of them uses it to check sports scores. That's it. On the other hand, most of my calls are made with BT, and I use a fair amount of apps and data in addition to email as well. Again, each user's experience will be different.

I agree with your hesitation about the 1620MaH battery. I said the same exact thing in the Vigor battery thread. It would be nice to ship a phone like this with a higher capacity battery, especially since we know that the 1st generation LTE chips are anything but power efficient. This is where I do think that HTC can run into problems- it's not so much that HTC handsets don't manage power as well as some others, it's more that a similarly spec'd handset with a lower capacity battery will require more optimization in the power management department. I think this is why individual usage leads to results that can be so different for the same handset. On the other hand, as one of the other members has pointed out, a 200mAh increase in battery capacity may very well lead to battery life increases that are only marginal in the real world.

I also agree with you about the TBolt. I don't have one but have read enough to realize how many people have reported bad battery life. The battery for the Vigor / Rezound is already available, and some TBolt users have purchased and begun using it with positive results. This is a good sign.

My understanding of the GN's screen is that the soft buttons disappear and leave the entire screen usable in many applications. Even if they didn't, I believe that testing has shown that an LCD screen of the same size will still use less power than AMOLED. I can't find it now, but one of the major tech blogs did a comparison between the Dinc1 with AMOLED, and the Dinc1 with SLCD and found the SLCD to generally have better battery life. I can't recall the margin of difference right now though.

The differences in clocking/voltage abilities between the application cores in these phones will come into play with respect to battery life too. That's why IMO, it's not possible to say which one of these two phones will provide users with generally better battery life, or if there will be no significant differences between them until they're launched.
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then you have this.....

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/100457-samsung-galaxy-nexus-prime-revealed-slower-than-the-iphone-4s-galaxy-s-ii

just rumors of course, but what if it is not as great as everyone hoped.

Right now the vigor is my first choice still, then the prime, then the razr.

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then you have this.....

Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Prime) revealed: Slower than iPhone 4S, Galaxy S II | ExtremeTech

just rumors of course, but what if it is not as great as everyone hoped.

Right now the vigor is my first choice still, then the prime, then the razr.

Decisions, decisions.
Just rumors, but looking fairly official. I haven't followed the Verizon Prime thread that closely, are we aware of the differences between the DoCoMo phone and the Verizon Phone (if any)?

You ordered these phones exactly as I do. Vigor first, Nexus second and RAZR 3rd. No way I'm getting a phone without a removable battery (RAZR), and apparent lack of SD card and Samsung's GPS history makes the Nexus a distant second. Plus, I'm a huge fan of Sense.
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What if the RAZR allows you go all day until bedtime to recharge and doesn't need a removable battery? On this feature, I would be OK with...I'd prefer that than knowing that I have to change the battery out mid-day to make it through the rest of the day. The single most thing about all MOTO phones that I don't like, is their UI. It's way behind Sense 3.5.
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Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Prime) revealed: Slower than iPhone 4S, Galaxy S II | ExtremeTech

just rumors of course, but what if it is not as great as everyone hoped.

Right now the vigor is my first choice still, then the prime, then the razr.

Decisions, decisions.
That's probably not the final device and they were just debugging the firmware codes, checking GPU performance at low clock. So it's not really indication of how Nexus will perform in real world. Even mighty SGS2 got poor benchmarks by anandtech before official launch. But final released version set new records in smart-phone benchmarks. So it's nothing to worry about.
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I have to say the demo of ICS really has me reevaluating my desire for the Vigor. The new people hub, calendar app, and mail app all look awesome and I'm loving the built in support for Google Voice voicemail. I think for me the RAZR is out because I hate the look of Motorola Android skins but if both the Vigor and the Prime release the same day it's going to be a toss up of which one I get.
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Yes, I was impressed with it as well.
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The only thing that is bugging me is a 5mp camera. I know that megapixels don't matter that much and I don't take that many pictures but my OCD is kicking in with respect to that.
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The only thing that is bugging me is a 5mp camera. I know that megapixels don't matter that much and I don't take that many pictures but my OCD is kicking in with respect to that.

I'd be MUCH more worried about it low light performance then the MP... That's my biggest complaint with phone cameras.
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The only thing that is bugging me is a 5mp camera. I know that megapixels don't matter that much and I don't take that many pictures but my OCD is kicking in with respect to that.
That is my second biggest concern. My first is battery. But the Panoramic option and no lag on this one might just make up for the drop in spec.
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I've been reading the reviews of ICS and starting to think that I've gotta have it. Who knows how long the upgrade will be before it comes to Rezound.
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I've been reading the reviews of ICS and starting to think that I've gotta have it. Who knows how long the upgrade will be before it comes to Rezound.
If the Rezound gets it. HTC could take quite a while to figure out how to integrate Sense with ICS. And if you look at their released statement they have basically said 'we aren't sure what we're doing' about this.
Although - once the code is released I would anticipate custom ROMs very very shortly thereafter.
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I've been reading the reviews of ICS and starting to think that I've gotta have it. Who knows how long the upgrade will be before it comes to Rezound.
If the specs, form factors, and builds (read:manufacturers) of the phones don't sway you one way or the other, then straight ICS vs. Sense 3.5 is likely what it will come down to.

Just read where most 2.3 GB phones "should" be capable to be upgraded to ICS at some point in 2012...only time will tell if this is 100% true and which phones will actually see upgrade before EOL.
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If the Rezound gets it. HTC could take quite a while to figure out how to integrate Sense with ICS. And if you look at their released statement they have basically said 'we aren't sure what we're doing' about this.
Although - once the code is released I would anticipate custom ROMs very very shortly thereafter.
Agree 100% on all points.
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If the specs, form factors, and builds (read:manufacturers) of the phones don't sway you one way or the other, then straight ICS vs. Sense 3.5 is likely what it will come down to.

Just read where most 2.3 GB phones "should" be capable to be upgraded to ICS at some point in 2012...only time will tell if this is 100% true and which phones will actually see upgrade before EOL.
I like the idea of the Nexus having the slightly rounded back for ergonomic reasons. But if Rezound is built like the DInc with the contoured back that's nice too.

Read 'should be capable' as 'What will the carrier want to add to it to make it even more nightmarish for the manufacturer to incorporate and come out with a working product'

And EOL happens relatively quickly with so many devices - especially if they don't do as well as the carrier anticipated.

Such hard decisions. (And then you throw in that many people don't actually have to choose till January or February when there may be new rumors for the phones of the first quarter of 2012)
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I think it will also depend on how ICS integrates with existing hardware buttons. If it can run in a mode where the soft buttons aren't present when hardware buttons are then that's fine. However, if it still shows the buttons on the screen the I'm out as it would eat up to much screen real-estate.

I will, however, be buying the first HTC made-for-ICS phone when it releases on Verizon.
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I own an HTC Incredible and have been waiting for the Vigor-Rezound, now two things I would love for the new HTC LTE smartphone to have is Gorilla Glass and an Amoled screen, it's the two features that I love about my Incredible, nice and vibrant and scratch resistand "no aftermarket screen protectors needed", if the rumors of the specs are true, the new HTC will wipe the floor comapred to the Razr and Nexus, first removable battery on the HTC, second- true 720p screen, unlike the Razr, third-expandable micro SD card slot, fourth- Sense UI, fifth- 1.5 dual core cpu and better GPU that will come with either the Razr or the Nexus, and last but not least, when are we going to see an official presentation of this smartphone, Samsung and Moto have taken off and HTC is nowhere to be heard off.
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I am with you all. This is the HARDEST phone waiting I have ever gone through. When I watched the ICS video I was going crazy. I have to have it. But then I went to Droidlife and read all the replies about the Replay they had up. Almost everyone was crying about the phones specs. I want ICS as much as anyone But you can't have it on a bad phone. We are buying a phone first (or at least I am). No SD slot, awful GPU scores, total plastic and last but not least, Samdung!!!! They are one of the worse while HTC is one of the best!!!

Having a ICS on a Samsung is kind of like having a cell phone NOT on Verizon. If your not on Verizon, you don't have a cell phone. And the same can go for above.

I hate this!!!! I think once the Rezound is released and or introduced and we see whats really up, it will make this easy. And like everyone else, it all depends on the Battery life. I can't take another phone that doesn't last half a day.

Come on HTC, don't let us down, please.......
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I'm in no way shape or form totally sold on the Galaxy Nexus or ICS...

However, food for thought!

Yes the specs on the Nexus are not earth shattering, and hardware wise...its ehhh And no SD Card slot is annoying IMO

But let us not forget, Technology is moving so fast, is anything going to really blow our minds these days?

When u talk or think Nexus, you have to remember its software 1st, hardware 2nd. And if you really want the latest and greatest from Google...A Nexus device is the only way to go.

And honestly, most of us have not felt the Nexus in our hands with the availability to really put it through its paces, which needs to be done in order to really make a decision.

Ok on to HTC, its a crap shoot my peeps! HTC is so heavily invested in Sense, that its going to be tough to get ICS on this thing. Not to mention, HTC has some of the worst battery life in the land of Android.
Couple that together with HTC phones that have had big screen leakage issues, and the decision becomes a little easier.

I'm an Tech fan before anything else, so I fight with no flag, and don't have a favorite Phone manufacturer, I switch depending on what I like and fall into.

Hopefully new trends pickup with the release of the Vigor and HTC brings some heat.

So honestly the OP's question can't get answered just yet until both are available and we see exactly what HTC baked up.
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Right now the only thing you can go by are the differences in specs.

GN has non removable battery or SD card, rezound extended battery and cover are already available. advantage Rezound

GN is coming in two models - 16 gb internal and 32 gb internal. Rezound only has 16 gb internal and a 32 gb sd capacity. I'll bet you;ll pay more for that extra 16 gb in the GN than you will for a SD card.

Both 4g, wash

both 1 gb ram, wash

android 2.3 vs 4.0, advantage GN, although many of the individual advantages of ICS are available today as market apps that you can run on phones as far back as an Eris... Although with ICS being essentially developed specifically for the GN, that has to have some advantages

1.2 vs 1.5 ghz dual core processors, advantage Rezound

8 back and 2 front vs 5 back and 1.3 front camera resolution, advantage Rezound

Styling, I think is advantage GN. In my opinion, the Rezound is basically a rehashed design.

Display resoultion, wash

screen size 4.65 vs 4.3. This is a wash because the buttons for ICS are integrated into the screen. Well, it's a wash until Rezound gets ICS, then the Rezound has some redundant buttons on the front of the device.

I read the Rezound is supposed to have a barometer for local weather

The GN camera is supposed to be really slick. With no-lag and the smooth panorama, it could be nice.

Not sure what Beats is going to bring to Rezound, but I wouldn't mind a better quality external speaker.
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8 back and 2 front vs 5 back and 1.3 front camera resolution, advantage Rezound

screen size 4.65 vs 4.3. This is a wash because the buttons for ICS are integrated into the screen. Well, it's a wash until Rezound gets ICS, then the Rezound has some redundant buttons on the front of the device.
Good points but... i thought the gnex will have removable battery?

Plus sammy is known for the best phone cameras... i'm betting they are as good if not better than htc's 8

ICS can run on phones that already have capacitive buttons... the on-screen buttons can be hid


All that said... HTC & Sense>[insert whatever you want here(as long as it isnt a tablet)]
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Good points but... i thought the gnex will have removable battery?

Plus sammy is known for the best phone cameras... i'm betting they are as good if not better than htc's 8

ICS can run on phones that already have capacitive buttons... the on-screen buttons can be hid


All that said... HTC & Sense>[insert whatever you want here(as long as it isnt a tablet)]
Yes the Nexus has a removable battery. The camera on it also looks very good. If it comes to Verizon it will be my next phone.
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screen size 4.65 vs 4.3. This is a wash because the buttons for ICS are integrated into the screen. Well, it's a wash until Rezound gets ICS, then the Rezound has some redundant buttons on the front of the device.
Actually, if I'm not mistaken, on the GN the on-screen buttons go away when watching videos and movies, giving you more screen real estate. So I would say the GN wins in this category.
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Right now the only thing you can go by are the differences in specs.

GN has non removable battery or SD card, rezound extended battery and cover are already available. advantage Rezound

GN is coming in two models - 16 gb internal and 32 gb internal. Rezound only has 16 gb internal and a 32 gb sd capacity. I'll bet you;ll pay more for that extra 16 gb in the GN than you will for a SD card.

Both 4g, wash

both 1 gb ram, wash

android 2.3 vs 4.0, advantage GN, although many of the individual advantages of ICS are available today as market apps that you can run on phones as far back as an Eris... Although with ICS being essentially developed specifically for the GN, that has to have some advantages

1.2 vs 1.5 ghz dual core processors, advantage Rezound

8 back and 2 front vs 5 back and 1.3 front camera resolution, advantage Rezound

Styling, I think is advantage GN. In my opinion, the Rezound is basically a rehashed design.

Display resoultion, wash

screen size 4.65 vs 4.3. This is a wash because the buttons for ICS are integrated into the screen. Well, it's a wash until Rezound gets ICS, then the Rezound has some redundant buttons on the front of the device.

I read the Rezound is supposed to have a barometer for local weather

The GN camera is supposed to be really slick. With no-lag and the smooth panorama, it could be nice.

Not sure what Beats is going to bring to Rezound, but I wouldn't mind a better quality external speaker.
Just a few problems with your post.

The G-Nex DOES have a removable battery. There is a pic on an article on Engadget with the back off. If you zoom in, you can see a battery connector and adjacent on the batery you can see polarity symbols.
Link: Behind the glass: a detailed tour inside the Samsung Galaxy Nexus -- Engadget

The part of your text I bolded is because you have it reversed. ICS was not designed for the G-Nex, but rather the G-Nex was designed for ICS, to showcase it. If ICS was designed for the G-Nex, they'd have to change ICS for other phones.

The barometer does not give local weather. It's used to measure the barometric pressure so it can determine the altitude and add that along with longitude and latitude to get a faster GPS lock.

One thing also mentioned in the Engadget article is that apparently it will support MHL (giving it HDMI out over the micro-usb with an MHL to HDMI adaptor). I believe that the modified usb on the Rezound is there for the same reason.
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Thanks, I was looking for information on HDMI since it didn't have a HDMI port. That helps me sway more towards the GN......so far.

Which one has the better GPU?
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Which one has the better GPU?
Don't know about the Rezound, but the GN has the 540 like what was in the Galaxy S. That could explain the poor benchmarks compared to the GS2.
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HTC Rezound = Adreno 220 GPU

Galaxy Nexus = Imagination Technologies PowerVR SGX 540 (same as the Galaxy S and Nexus S, though this one uses a higher clock speed at 384MHz)

I'm just not sure which one is supposed to perform better.

EDIT: This sounds like the Adreno 220 is better.
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011/08/09/qualcomm-adreno-205-vs-adreno-220-htc-sensation-vs-htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/#more-24154
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Galaxy Nexus = Imagination Technologies PowerVR SGX 540 (same as the Galaxy S and Nexus S, though this one uses a higher clock speed at 384MHz)

I'm just not sure which one is supposed to perform better.

EDIT: This sounds like the Adreno 220 is better.
Qualcomm Adreno 205 vs Adreno 220 / HTC Sensation vs HTC Flyer, HTC Desire HD and Samsung Galaxy S | MobileTechWorld
The Droid Razr also sports the SGX 540 GPU, so it appears that the Rezound will have the upper hand as far as GPU of the 3.

I seem to recall that someone said in the comments on the Engadget article I mentioned earlier that they were disappointed that Samsung opted for the older GPU on the GN, but someone replied that that GPU was the only option for the OMAP 4430/4460 currently.

I also recall reading that the OMAP processor was the CPU Google had optimized ICS for, just like they optimized Honeycomb for the Tegra2. If that would be the case I think then I'd rather get a phone with a better GPU and have it updated from GB to ICS rather than get an ICS phone with a lesser GPU.

Of course with the rumblings I've heard about a few more devices launching with ICS later this year/ early next year, if HTC is one of them they'll probably forgo the OMAP and stick with a Snapdragon. I also remember reading that they were considering trying Intel CPUs, so that may also be a possibility.

Decisions, decisions.
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Is the Rezound super lcd? Got to give the advantage to the Samsung if it it is. I love AMOLED screens, and the AMOLEDs efficiency should more than make up for the larger screen in the battery draining category.
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Actually, if I'm not mistaken, on the GN the on-screen buttons go away when watching videos and movies, giving you more screen real estate. So I would say the GN wins in this category.
Well kind of... depending on the Vigor's screen tech, the pixel density is going to be higher.

Vigor: (4.3"/720p) + space for capacitive buttons
GN: (onscreen buttons + home screen area = 4.65")/720p

If you're watching a video on both screens, the image will be bigger on GN, but you'll have a denser screen on the Vigor. The PenTile isn't help the GN's cause either.


Strange...I still prefer capacitive buttons.
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I'm starting to lean toward the GN but waiting on more info on the Vigor. May come down to flipping a coin. LOL
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Vigor all the way. Though i will say i'm eager to get both in my hands at a vzw store and see whats up with them
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I'm leaning heavily toward the Vigor too. Loved those case pics DroidAV8R posted.

Can I start another thread asking everyone if they are going to buy it too?
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Can I start another thread asking everyone if they are going to buy it too?
Why don't you just edit this thread, and add a poll to it? If you do, be sure to also add in the Droid RAZR as well, and also add a 4th option for "waiting til all three launch to see".
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