spridell

I think that's pretty good guess.

I think the S3 will be out much sooner this time around probably by middle Summer.

Photon 2 by August

New version of Galaxy Note by Middle September

Iphone 5 October

drexappeal

If you guys want to catch a glimpse of comparison, event is live right now:
A GALAXY Unpacked

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drexappeal

Need to see "S-Voice" in a loud environment, but pretty cool.

Jceinc

EVOLTE killin the S3 IMO

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jfenton

Only thing I see that is better over the spront One X variant is a replaceable battery on the GSII.

I for one will go EVO with the LCD2 display, camera system and hopefully better radios, GPS and audio qualities.

I am soooooo glad the GSIII isn't a show stopped. I have a GSII and am ready to come back home to HTC

hsh.shawn

Hmmm looks like a very solid phone but I think I am going to stick with the Evo LTE after watching that and looking at the photos. I do not like white phones and not a fan of that blue one either. Colors aside though specs seem pretty much on par with the Evo LTE. It has a slight advantage with removable battery but by everything I have read the 2000mah battery will be more than enough for a day.

I do like the eye tracking software to keep the phone awake(assuming it works well) it is a great feature. I will call it a wash though as I really like the kickstands on my Evo's

With great marketing and solid Brand recognition I am sure the GSIII will outsell the One X line, but I don't think you can go wrong with either. EVO for me this seals the deal

EDIT: That wireless charging is a bit tempting as well

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brownhornet

So.. the GS3 comes with a 4.8 inch screen as compared to 4.7 on the Evo, comes in 16,32 and 64 gig models PLUS sd card which means technically you can expand to 96 gigs, a quad core xynos vs a dual core s4, thinner with a removable 2100 mah battery but the Evo is killin it? I've heard fanboyism before but sheesh. I'll even give the Evo the screen win (even though many do prefer the AMOLED), and I can't even give you the camera considering the pics the One X takes couldnt even best the GS2 or the 4S.

I mean sure, being able to take 100 pics in a minute is cool (or however many it is) but in pretty much all the comparisons the One X has come in last in the actual quality of the pics between the 3. So i'm trying to figure, where's the kill here lol. And engadget has already said the GS3 spanks the One X browser easily (no surprise there) so help me understand the "killing" thing.

drexappeal

Actually, that means up to 128gb, if you consider the 64gb card is working fine on many android phones (including my Photon).

May 29 for Europe, means North America/US is probably looking at end of June at the earliest.

Motorola is next up for any "announcement," so I'm hoping to see that at the beginning of June.

novox77

Seems like a good phone. I'd want to play with both before passing judgment.

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PyroSporker

You are telling me that people will allow and actually WANT a live device watching them ALL THE TIME!?! You've got to be kidding me...
And it is considered a feature?!
This crosses the line, and I consider it a complete and total security flaw in every sense of the word.

To each his or her own I guess.





Show us what you got Moto

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Doomstang

I thought I was 100% sure I wanted the evo 4g LTE...but after watching the sgsIII event, I'm not so sure anymore. The S3 didn't completely blow my mind away with hardware, but Samsung has really done some work on software that I like.

Sauske

Samsung copied HTC with the best shot feature! lol! LTEvo all day!

AM2

he did say IMO, not IYO...I agree with him. for me (ME), the cam plus cam ui, kickstand, slcd2 or whatever it is, speaking of comparisons the s4 in most I've seen handles the other one for most tasks etc., I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference in thinness, hd voice(as it will be), availability, would be nice to have removable battery , but I've never had to replace a battery and generally upgrade yearly, and for me the more burst shots the better to insure I get the one I like . kinda sounds like an over reaction to his IMO comment which one could misinterpret as fanboy ism as well don't ya think...I say it all with LOVE

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Sauske

Agreed! They copied HTC best photo feature! lol! And beside having removable battery, I didn't see anything to say whoa! I did like how you could keep the video playing while in different apps! LTEvo all day!

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AM2

yes they did add what seems to be a ton of "new" software...I only wonder how much of it will go down the "it was cool in the beginning but now meh" road...similar to the 3d feature on 3vo, at least for me. in the end it was about the things I used daily and over the long term as it related to specs and hardware...but I agree software folks should rejoice. some of it seems pretty cool. I wonder how much of it could be found in the market, although having everything in one place is much easier

hsh.shawn

It is all a matter of opinion for example:
As far as space goes the Evo LTE comes w/ 16 gigs expandable to 48 or possibly 80. I would never need any where near that much with Google Music and cloud everything now a days so that is a mute point for me(though sure technically a win for gsIII). I will definitely give you a win on the 2100mah removable battery(though it looks like the Evo LTE will last plenty long enough based on One X testing with 1800mah) Screen size again 4.7 is almost too big imo so 4.8 is even worse(its a preference thing no clear winner) as far as screen I am biased because I tested out the One X and the screen is phenomenal way better than any Amoled I have seen yet. We do not know what processor the US gsIII will have rumors have it with the same S4 chip in the EVOLTE. I do really like the wireless charging and eye tracking software I just don't know if it is enough for me to hold off on the Evo. There are screen awake apps that suffice and wireless charging though really nice is not a must have for me(even a negative as sometime I like to pick my phone up and use it while charging)

So you are right no kill in either direction they are both great phones I really don't think there is a wrong choice here? To each his own

WifiMaxed

Kickstand baby, its all in the kickstand! I will take Sense 4.0 over Touchwiz anyday. As far as a quadcore SGS3 making it to U.S. shores, that's to be seen if it plays nice with LTE. Other than that I agree with other poster, its pretty much a wash and agree it personal preference.
I think I will stick with Beats Audio as well.

nsu300zx

Anandtech seems to think differently about the camera:

I’m very impressed with HTC’s One X/S series camera, to say that HTC has made massive improvements is an understatement. The One X has some of the best (if not the best) low light performance I have seen from a smartphone, no doubt in thanks to that fast F/2.0 aperture and noise reduction they’re doing on their ISP. HTC’s optics have very controlled/minimal distortion and remain nice and sharp across the field, which is no small feat. The lights on lightbox sample has great color saturation, sharpness, and dynamic range. In the dark with the flash on, their ability to control LED brightness also helps avoid the washed out flash look that I see from other smartphones as well.
The other part is that HTC’s optical system now has a low enough F/# to overcome the small 1.4µm pixels and deliver shallow enough depth of field to actually show some nice, visible bokeh. It isn’t perfect, but it’s definitely there.
I think with the HTC One series it’s time to add HTC to the short list (Nokia, Apple) of smartphone vendors doing more than just integrating a module into their smartphone platforms.

Seems like one of the best.

AM2

you have to copy nowadays, so I'm not surprised there . all the manufacturers copy each other at various points in time. no way to compete if they didn't. EL TEvo stands out to me as well though for various reasons...now let's just hope it comes out may 18th or close to it

drexappeal

I love any phone that has a kickstand too...still want to see if Motorola steps up for Sprint, but I do have to admit that if the E4GT 2 translates to almost the same device as the SGS 3...I have to give it more consideration than I was initially thinking I would.

Sauske

Agreed!

Sauske

It's personal preference! I just prefer Sense over Touchwiz! Quad or Dual it doesn't matter, as both phones run liquid smooth! Both phones are beast's! SGS3 has feature I like and LTEvo has feature I like...it comes down to what suit you! It's sense for me!

mak916

Here is a hands on video.
Samsung Galaxy S III preview: hands-on with the next Android superphone (video) -- Engadget

mak916

For me the GS3 has a slight advantage over the LTEvo with removable battery at this point. Once we get both phones up and working we will see. But for me, having the option of a removable battery is important. summer time is when I travel and don't always have access to charge my phone.

WifiMaxed

Agreed, I am kickstand junkie and so will be keeping a keen ear out (hopefully soon) about MoPhoQ. Photon would be my only second consideration versus LTEVO. Don't get me wrong E4GT killer phone. Just need a kickstand and not the case/clip on type, built-in

I've been holding out as well, launch day OG EVO is still my daily driver(w/OG Batt, just say'n). While, the wife rubs her Photon in my face , Temptation of E4GT was there, but the need for kickstand ruled out SGS3 vs LTEVO = kickstand for the win!

WifiMaxed

This is one my concerns as well (Non-Removable batt) and voiced it on another thread. I wish could give the person the proper credit for there response. In short, mentioned just buy ext batt charger. About the same size as regular phone battery and just plug your phone into it. Unless your flying Australia LTEVO's 2000mah is going to be enough for most.(his/her words) I thought to myself "Well there is a no-brainer" I agree would have been nice to include removable batt on LTEVO.

EarlyMon

The LTEvo, like the Rezound, is using a Samsung camera sensor (actually the LTEvo uses Samsung for both cameras). Just saying. Bet it's the same as EL TEvo.

And before the confusion hits, pretty sure the USA/LTE market is going to see only the S4 in this phone - just a guess, but pretty sure based on -

AnandTech - The Samsung Galaxy S III Revealed: 4.8" HD SuperAMOLED, Exynos 4 Quad, Available 5/29 in Europe

Wish they'd drop the PenTile, but it doesn't bother a lot of people.

Pretty cool about the on-board memory going up to 64 GB - plus SD card expansion.

BenChase7

So, they are still using PenTile? Thats a bummer, imo. I hated the pentile screens. I know they say its supposedly less noticeable on a HD screen... But, I already went that route... never again.

I was very glad to see EL Tevo's HD screen was NOT PenTile.

EarlyMon

BTW - now that the SGS3 has moved from rumor to fact, I've merged today's discussions into this thread.

AM2

EL TEvo advants for me: kickstand, cam and cam ui(based on specs,reviews and sample pics so far, and playing with the one x), slcd2, sense, hd voice potential, cam shutter button, availability, NV, unlimited data, beats audio simply cuz given the choice i'll take it, and the wonderful evo forum bunch!

GS3 advants for me: front cam, removable battery, wireless charging capability

things that don't make a diff to me : 4.7 vs 4.8, 32 or 64 g variant which equals more money I would think, most software add ons cuz I think I'll already have most of them and others would probably end up in the market somewhere if I really felt I wanted to try it, blue and white colors cuz I like black or silver phones

I think I covered it all for me

PyroSporker

I'm cornfused, do you have a link about the camera sensor for the Evo 4G LTE?
I don't doubt you, I just want to know more since I haven't seen that info anywhere. I'm kind of an info junkie.

PenTile is a device killer in my opinion.When I saw PenTile earlier during the press release the phone took a leap off my list (opinion). I'll wait to see the screen in hand though before I say for sure.

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Lorak

El tevo wins on every front except the 50kbps network its on.

mak916

That is truly interesting about HTC using Samsung's cameras. Either way its not going to be an easy decision for me.

EarlyMon

Ja wohl.

AnandTech - The HTC One X for AT&T Review

Of course, in addition to the sensor, the LTEvo uses the ImageChip (an image signal processor (ISP)) so the results aren't tied to the ISP in the main core.

If the SGS3 relies on the main core, then we can expect a possibility of some differences or additional software complexity as the Exynos and S4 (both used in the SGS3) will have different firmware for all of that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXjm6gvDy5Q

Not terrible for an FFC.

And then, there's the HTC ImageSense tying it all together.

Only results count and time will tell, but I'm not sure if the SGS3 will be able to match EL TEvo for pictures or not.

Offhand, I think videos are going to be an open competition.

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Jceinc

HTC quality vs Samsung. As previously stated, killing it.

Orion

Uh oh, look what you started Drex. Lol Anyway, as far as screens go....EVO all the way. Suprised Samsung didn't try to do better in that department. Sense 4 looks better than the new touchwiz. But it does have a removable battery. That's a plus. I'm going to be neutral here and test both phones. Surprisingly, I'm still undecided....damn lol. Does the new Galaxy have scrolling wallpapers? From the vids it doesnt seem so.

Tommydaniel

opinion. I have dropped my Epic Touch several times and not a scratch. Also, the One X and GSIII both use polycarbonate.

BenChase7

yea, the One X is carbonate... but isnt the EVO LTE metal?

Tommydaniel

and polycarbonate.

Jceinc

Yeah but they feel cheap and horrible. Almost toy like. I've given them a chance, twice, never again. I like to be able to use my fancy phones

NeoteriX

I'll just note for anyone wondering -- Samsung's ability to develop a phone thinner than the HTC One X and with a removable 7.77 Whr battery is a testament to the space advantages of AMOLED screen technology.

Using optical lamination on an LCD display pretty much cuts down the thickness of the screen as much as physically possible, but nonetheless, having a backlight requires some space.

Since AMOLED pixels are self emissive (they generate their own light), that accounts for your space saving right there!

On another note, I'm really not sure what HTC was thinking limiting the onboard memory to 16 GB on the One X... I can accept that from an engineering standpoint, there was no space for the microSD card (the Evo has one because the space normally reserved for the SIM card was thankfully replaced with a microSD one), but I feel like internal memory is a tangible fixed number for consumers to grasp, and when one phone has less (and only comes in the "less" option), whereas other phones have more (and more more), that is an easy sales loss right there.

What gives, HTC?

drexappeal

Interesting that the HD Super Amoled is a Pentile screen. That's never really been an issue for me with the Photon, even though I did notice it (after never having a pentile screen before).

Nontheless, screen clarity has always been the most important aspect for me. As long as I can see the phone in the sun and also have auto brightness on, without it draining battery, I'm fine with any screen.

BenChase7

for obvious reasons, there has to be some polycarbonate for NFC to work, but its pretty safe to say the majority of the EVO LTE is metal casing

BenChase7

I cant believe they used PenTile on the GSIII, myself. Its always been a downfall to me. I know they say it dosent make as much of a difference on an HD screen... but I've been down that road once.. and I wont do it again.

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simcha

I'm still waiting for Motorola. Having said that, and I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this so I'll just say it. El TEvo isn't a Samsung. That alone gives the EL TEvo 1,000,000 votes from me.

OK, enough of my anti-Samsung bias, back to the technical reasons people are picking between the two...

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2strokenut

After watching the whole thing live and seeing the specs I can see that both phones are going to be very evenly matched. I think the decision to buy either will be swayed by whether you favor HTC or Samsung. I think HTC dropped the ball big time by leaving out bigger storage on the other ONE models.

BenChase7

GSIII Benchmarks...

Looks like EVO LTE wont have much to worry about in that regard. lol

Samsung Galaxy S III gets benchmarked, shows plenty of promise -- Engadget

JMac202

You couldnt pay me to own a Samsung phone again. I got sucked into buying the Galaxy Note on AT&T and while this phone is nice it still has all the Sammy issues...radios, wifi, reception and terrible GPS. And the kicker is this phone has two GPS radios in it. The normal one and a GLONASS one (similar to a windshield mounted GPS unit in a car) and it still has trouble locking on and staying locked on.

TouchWiz sucks. I hate it. I really wish carriers gave you and option to use they're skin or just Vanilla Android. Especially now because I loved vanilla ICS.

Samsung sucks people in with the specs and their screens. Which they sound and look great but I've found out with the Epic, Nexus S and now the Note that when it comes to everyday real world use Samsung products are pretty much junk. All three phones all had GPS, Wifi and singal reception issues. Seems like a running theme for Samsung across the board.

Hell on Sprint the signal is Qualcomm based and Samsung used a 3rd party radio instead of a Qualcomm one. Why? Beats me. Not sure if it's that way now though? Why not one that was made for a qualcomm signal?

EarlyMon

Nailed it in one, compadre.

Tech talk:




TL/DR or too techy translation:

Software technologies exist so that those of us used to going under the hood, or used to just mounting our phones as an USB drive to get to our sd card content - can have all of our storage for apps or sd card use simply shared from a common pool.

Then instead of telling people that they're getting, say, 16 GB or whatever (true in hardware but not in reality - the operating system and phone needs some) they could just say - you're getting 11 GB or whatever on board to use for apps, media and your data.

Then, options for adding sd cards or buying phones with more memory will make more sense for all of us. We're smart enough to manage what we store on our PCs, we're smart enough to do that here on phones today.

Google, Samsung and HTC simply don't get us as consumers.

Still unless I hear that Samsung screwed up the added storage (and everyone has had a history of that at times), I'll have to give the storage round to Sammy on this one.

I'm giving both phones a C+ for having 1 GB of ram. These CPUs and GPUs are phenomenal and Android is only growing and app complexity and features can only increase - the day for 2 GB is here.

So, that's a draw for the SGS3 and EL TEvo, in my view.

Sauske

Agreed!