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Default Still indecisive! HTC One or S4, for overall convenience?

Hey, everyone! My contract is close to its expiration, and I was wondering what phone I should get to replace my LG Optimus S. Both the HTC One and GS4 are great phones, and I'd be very complacent to get either one of them since they are a HUGE upgrade from the Optimus S.

However, as a high school student, I was wondering which of them would be much better/more helpful/more convenient for me in the next two years under a new contract. I'll be using my phone more for the camera, music player, games to pass time, and to help me with certain tasks with the browser or certain apps (searching up things, sparknotes, AP notes, etc.)


HTC Pros: pretty much everything; almost zero lag, audio quality, pretty good (but not great) camera & its features, design, 32 GB memory = more music and pics.
Cons: although overall it is much better than my current phone's and is amongst the top, the HTC's 4 MP camera is kind of what holds me back at times. Also, the no menu button might slightly bother me and the phone is almost irreparable if it breaks.

S4 Pros: better simplicity, better convenience, somewhat better camera than the One's, useful Multi-Window, it looks easier to use, reparable, expandable memory and replaceable battery
Cons: some minor lag issues, 16GB might not be enough (but its more than my Optimus S's 2 GB lol).

Note: those are from what I've heard/seen from reviews. Would the HTC's camera be good enough for photos with friends for the memories?
Anyways, sorry for making this post long! Please help me out with either experiences from these phones or with any info!

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Here's a comparison by Phandroid's Kevin Krause:
Samsung Galaxy S4 vs. HTC One

The thing about storage is that the Galaxy S4 can use microSD cards. It allows for an extra 64GB of storage via a microSD card so if you can afford an extra $20, you can have a 16GB Galaxy S4 with an extra 32GB of storage for a total of 48GB whereas there is no expandable memory option for the HTC One except the Chinese variant.

Both should run smoothly with little to no lag issue with the upgraded processors and 2GB of RAM. Of course, lag is inevitable and you may experience it once every blue moon

For a student, both of these devices should suffice. If you don't like the stock apps, there's always other apps you can download in the Play store for your educational needs.
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Thanks for the insight!

I'll certainly take that into considerations
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No problem.
And check out these subforums and see what the guys there have to say about both devices:
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Btw if it comes down to the camera issue since both phones will deliver the same fast performance with everything else, which would be better for video recording and picture-taking, both for memories and sharing (such as in instagram, twitter, or snapchat)?

And do their respective browsers have a feature that the other doesn't have?

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If you want professional reviews, check anandtech.com. Their S4 review is shorter than their One review (though longer than anyone else's) mainly because Samsung gave them less time.

My feeling is that both are more than good, and it's a matter of individual preference.
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I checked the reviews (and more lol), but I still haven't found a resolution. Essentially, it just comes down to the camera and browser/app performances to better suit my educational needs and memory safe-keeping.
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Well, if it makes it easier, the HTC One camera is better in low-light situations and the Galaxy S4 is better in light.
The browser can be changed easily with another browser off the play store such as Firefox or Firefox Beta, Boat Browser, Dolphin Browser, Chrome Beta, etc.
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Well, if it makes it easier, the HTC One camera is better in low-light situations and the Galaxy S4 is better in light.
The browser can be changed easily with another browser off the play store such as Firefox or Firefox Beta, Boat Browser, Dolphin Browser, Chrome Beta, etc.
Thanks! Ahh, tough decisions lol. I haven't been using my LG Optimus S as a camera because of its quality so I don't know whether I'll be taking more low-light shots or regular ones. But even in regular lighting, would the HTC One still provide a good-quality shot?

And thanks. Do their respective browsers support adobe flash player though?
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Take a look for the camera comparisons yourself
Samsung Galaxy S4 vs HTC One Camera Comparison | TechnoBuffalo

I may have spoken false. Looking at these I think the One's camera may be superior. But, I don't know much about good quality pictures.

Hm, I think Adobe stopped supporting flash on Android so I would tend to think that they do not. However, there is a slight workaround for this shown here:
How to Install Adobe Flash Player on Android Phones - QbKing77
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One big issue you may want to consider is storage. The S4 will provide expandable storage while the One will not, and it could be cheaper in the long run.
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Sorry for this indecisive post but both seem extremely tempting to me! If you are going for looks the HTC One definitely wins.

Performance-wise both should be very similar because of . I 'feel' Samsung Galaxy S4 will be a little faster because of PowerVR SGX 544MP3 but don't quote me on this.

I personally, would get any because both seem like great powerhouses with 1080p display!
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Performance-wise both should be very similar because of . I 'feel' Samsung Galaxy S4 will be a little faster because of PowerVR SGX 544MP3 but don't quote me on this.
PowerVR SGX 544MP3 is only going to be on the Exynos model, whereas most will be getting the Snadragon, which will have an adreno 320 (same as the One, though I think clocked slightly faster).

The question though is whether any of this matters for real world use?

There's been a lot of discussion of storage over in the S4 forum. The bottom line seems to be that the S4's internal storage will be fine for most, but for some users who want to install large apps (apps which store a lot of data internally) it could be limiting. If your main data requirement is media the SD card works fine.

I really would say that you should have a look at the real devices before making a choice
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PowerVR SGX 544MP3 is only going to be on the Exynos model, whereas most will be getting the Snadragon, which will have an adreno 320 (same as the One, though I think clocked slightly faster).

The question though is whether any of this matters for real world use?

There's been a lot of discussion of storage over in the S4 forum. The bottom line seems to be that the S4's internal storage will be fine for most, but for some users who want to install large apps (apps which store a lot of data internally) it could be limiting. If your main data requirement is media the SD card works fine.

I really would say that you should have a look at the real devices before making a choice
Thanks for clearing that out, sounds just about right. But both these devices are just so smexy (if you know what I mean ) I wouldn't be able to device either... The HTC One looks awesome to me with great (and supposedly very durable) build quality. Whereas the Samsung Galaxy S4 looks a little plasticky (just a little...) but gives you the advantage of a much better camera and the ability to install a microSD card to reach upto 128GB!

Anyways, I wish the OP all the best in whichever device he goes for because to me, either would be an excellent buy!
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I don't really mind the HTC's minimum 32 GB space. I don't plan on installing apps that take up a lot of space, but I do mainly on pictures, videos, music, educational apps, less demanding games, and maybe even files, so storage shouldn't be an issue for me.

And the browser sounds good then. But compared to the S4's browser, are there features that it has that the One's doesn't? I won't consider the air view features, though. Trying to get them to work more consistently will take more time than using the browser manually. I know that both will deliver fast performances, but I'm just trying to determine which would be more time-efficient, speedy, and helpful. So when it comes down to using the browser with multiple websites/tabs open (i.e. for school-related websites or other stuff), which one would load pages more quickly, and switch tabs and browse pages faster?

I also forgot to mention. The camera will not only be for capturing memories, but also for notes on the board or for pages from a book just in case there's no time to write them down and for reminder purposes. I've heard that the camera for the HTC One doesn't zoom in as much, and combined with its lower megapixels, letters might probably show up as grainy.

What are your takes on these?
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One big issue you may want to consider is storage. The S4 will provide expandable storage while the One will not, and it could be cheaper in the long run.
That's not entirely true, you can use OTG cables to expand storage on both phones.
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I don't really mind the HTC's minimum 32 GB space. I don't plan on installing apps that take up a lot of space, but I do mainly on pictures, videos, music, educational apps, less demanding games, and maybe even files, so storage shouldn't be an issue for me.

And the browser sounds good then. But compared to the S4's browser, are there features that it has that the One's doesn't? I won't consider the air view features, though. Trying to get them to work more consistently will take more time than using the browser manually. I know that both will deliver fast performances, but I'm just trying to determine which would be more time-efficient, speedy, and helpful. So when it comes down to using the browser with multiple websites/tabs open (i.e. for school-related websites or other stuff), which one would load pages more quickly, and switch tabs and browse pages faster?

I also forgot to mention. The camera will not only be for capturing memories, but also for notes on the board or for pages from a book just in case there's no time to write them down and for reminder purposes. I've heard that the camera for the HTC One doesn't zoom in as much, and combined with its lower megapixels, letters might probably show up as grainy.

What are your takes on these?
From what it sounds like, the camera is your only real deciding factor with storage being a very distant second. As for taking pictures of pages, both cameras will do just fine, I have used "camscanner" to take pictures of pages with my Evo 4G which has a much worse camera than either of the two phones, I can read the page just fine from those pictures, now if you want to take pictures of the black/whiteboard, or presentations, you may need to zoom in either while taking the picture (not recommended in either case) or post process. If you zoom in post process, the S4 may be the better choice, because while the clarity is not going to be as great, you can zoom in more due to the number of megapixels (Megapixles basically only relate to the size of the image.) If you can wait, I'm getting my One tomorrow, I can take some pictures of text at a distance with it, and show you what it looks like zoomed in. My wife has an S3 and I can do the same with her phone. While not the same megapixle count as the S4, it should give some idea as to what to expect.
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From what it sounds like, the camera is your only real deciding factor with storage being a very distant second. As for taking pictures of pages, both cameras will do just fine, I have used "camscanner" to take pictures of pages with my Evo 4G which has a much worse camera than either of the two phones, I can read the page just fine from those pictures, now if you want to take pictures of the black/whiteboard, or presentations, you may need to zoom in either while taking the picture (not recommended in either case) or post process. If you zoom in post process, the S4 may be the better choice, because while the clarity is not going to be as great, you can zoom in more due to the number of megapixels (Megapixles basically only relate to the size of the image.) If you can wait, I'm getting my One tomorrow, I can take some pictures of text at a distance with it, and show you what it looks like zoomed in. My wife has an S3 and I can do the same with her phone. While not the same megapixle count as the S4, it should give some idea as to what to expect.
Thank you! I won't be changing phones until later this week anyways. I REALLY appreciate that!
I don't mind the One's minimum of 32 gigs, so storage isn't really an issue for me. The deciding factors are actually the camera and browser convenience for a high school student (especially when you need multiple tabs when you're searching several topics at once, and switching between them).
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Thank you! I won't be changing phones until later this week anyways. I REALLY appreciate that!
I don't mind the One's minimum of 32 gigs, so storage isn't really an issue for me. The deciding factors are actually the camera and browser convenience for a high school student (especially when you need multiple tabs when you're searching several topics at once, and switching between them).
The browser is a non issue, chances are you will end up downloading a browser for whichever phone you end up with.
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The browser is a non issue, chances are you will end up downloading a browser for whichever phone you end up with.
That's good to hear. I'll probably stick with the stock browser because I've heard that the others doesn't support adobe flash. Nonetheless, I'll download a different one if it helps browse faster when going to school-related websites.
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Go with the S4 for sure.

I had the Evo 3D and it met with a black screen of death. I foolishly did not use a SD card in that phone at the time, thinking I'd add one later... well all of my photos / videos got deleted upon factory reset to try to fix my HTC phone.

Always go with external storage option if you can... that is a feature that could save you major headaches down the road, and of course back up (which is a lot easier with a SD card as many people have problems connecting Android phones to the PC due to USB issues or some other stuff).
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Go with the S4 for sure.

I had the Evo 3D and it met with a black screen of death. I foolishly did not use a SD card in that phone at the time, thinking I'd add one later... well all of my photos / videos got deleted upon factory reset to try to fix my HTC phone.

Always go with external storage option if you can... that is a feature that could save you major headaches down the road, and of course back up (which is a lot easier with a SD card as many people have problems connecting Android phones to the PC due to USB issues or some other stuff).
Actually, SD cards due to this reason is becoming unneeded. With G+, Dropbox and Sugarsync able to make backups of videos and pics as soon as you take them. The phones without expandable storage is thinking of the push to cloud.
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Actually, SD cards due to this reason is becoming unneeded. With G+, Dropbox and Sugarsync able to make backups of videos and pics as soon as you take them. The phones without expandable storage is thinking of the push to cloud.
The problem with cloud is still pretty major though:

1) data caps make moving data back / forth between cloud financially un-doable
2) even with the very best of connection speeds, it's tough to sit and move gigabytes of data back and forth between cloud and device. I'm at the point where I don't bother even uploading my data to cloud because it really slows the connection down, or slows the device down, or both
3) security of data on the cloud is a major concern.

Until bandwidth / reliability / security are golden, I think it will be very difficult for many people to rely on the cloud...
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Depends how you view it. If you think of it as backup rather than storage, and your storage is adequate for your needs, it obviates one argument for sd.

I should add that I say this as a total cloud sceptic. But also as someone who doesn't regard any storage medium (fixed or removable) as bulletproof.
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That's good to hear. I'll probably stick with the stock browser because I've heard that the others doesn't support adobe flash. Nonetheless, I'll download a different one if it helps browse faster when going to school-related websites.
Quite the opposite.

If you want Flash, you're best bet is Boat Browser and a side-load of Flash. Instructions how are in both the SGS4 and One forums.

The stock SGS4 was called out in particular for having issues with Flash and I can't remember when I last found the HTC browser at all worthwhile.

And yes, the cloud is on the internet now and that means it's not for everyone.

If you can work with 32 GB, then either phone is for you, visit a shop, hold them, trust your gut feeling and go with that one.

They're both winners and much of it may come down to personal preference.
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None of that applies to the HTC One, that's apples and oranges compadre.

And the only place that an Evo 3D would store videos and pictures would be to the sd card, that's not erased on a factory data reset.

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Well overall I've decided on the One. If there's some discrepancies or problems that arise, I'll reconsider the S4 (:
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Well overall I've decided on the One. If there's some discrepancies or problems that arise, I'll reconsider the S4 (:
Well, sorry I didn't get a chance to take those pictures yet, but for what it's worth, I noticed the One does have a "text" setting under the camera.
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Well, sorry I didn't get a chance to take those pictures yet, but for what it's worth, I noticed the One does have a "text" setting under the camera.
That's totally fine! Thank you for your considerations still, but if you're still able to do that, I'd really appreciate them as well

And I've never had a phone that has those extra-featured settings, but that "Text" setting would be for taking snapshots of books/pages/whatnot, I presume?
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That's totally fine! Thank you for your considerations still, but if you're still able to do that, I'd really appreciate them as well

And I've never had a phone that has those extra-featured settings, but that "Text" setting would be for taking snapshots of books/pages/whatnot, I presume?
I would guess so. I think what I will do is print off an eye chart on a sheet of paper, tape it on the wall and take pictures of it from various distances, that should give you an indication of what the cameras can do. Keep in mind the S3 camera is probably not as good as the S4
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I would guess so. I think what I will do is print off an eye chart on a sheet of paper, tape it on the wall and take pictures of it from various distances, that should give you an indication of what the cameras can do. Keep in mind the S3 camera is probably not as good as the S4
Ah, alright. Thanks once again. And I don't mind; there's barely any huge noticeable disparities between the S3's and S4's picture qualities, despite their difference in megapixels (just my opinion, judging from what I've seen in a bunch of comparisons).
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a bit of an OT here, but does the One support OTG cables? (Amazon.com: T & S Electronics Micro USB OTG Cable - LIFETIME WARRANTY! Micro USB OTG to USB Adapter. Samsung Galaxy S4, HTC One, Nexus 7 & Nexus 10 and all other OTG compatible devices: Computers & Accessories)

if so, you can use a flash drive, or a Amazon.com: Kingston G2 USB 2.0 microSDHC Flash Memory Card Reader FCR-MRG2 (Black): Electronics that reads micro SD cards, which would render the internal reader a "nice to have, but not crippling that it's missing" feature.
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People here are using that on their Ones, yes.
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Ah, alright. Thanks once again. And I don't mind; there's barely any huge noticeable disparities between the S3's and S4's picture qualities, despite their difference in megapixels (just my opinion, judging from what I've seen in a bunch of comparisons).
My HTC One pictures may be obsolete soon as well, in the UK an update rolled out a few days ago that made improvements to a number of things, the camera was included.
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My HTC One pictures may be obsolete soon as well, in the UK an update rolled out a few days ago that made improvements to a number of things, the camera was included.
Awesome. I hope it'll help improve its quality
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Ok, so I took the pictures and put them in the public folder of my dropbox account, they are all named accordingly, no post processing was done to any picture as that's not my strong suit, and ultimately, you will be the one doing that with similar textual pictures. All the photos were taken in "TEXT" "scene" which both the HTC One and the Samsung Galaxy S3 have. If I zoomed in it will be noted on the file name along with the approximate distance away from the pages I was. I used the app camscanner for the PDF file.
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Ok, so I took the pictures and put them in the public folder of my dropbox account, they are all named accordingly, no post processing was done to any picture as that's not my strong suit, and ultimately, you will be the one doing that with similar textual pictures. All the photos were taken in "TEXT" "scene" which both the HTC One and the Samsung Galaxy S3 have. If I zoomed in it will be noted on the file name along with the approximate distance away from the pages I was. I used the app camscanner for the PDF file.
Thanks! They look neck and neck so the One's camera looks pretty well!
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Thanks! They look neck and neck so the One's camera looks pretty well!
No problem, glad it helped you (or made the decision worse lol), btw, I found this on HTCpro

"Capture white boards, documents, speeches and meetings with cameras and video recorders."

As you can see by the pictures, HTC isn't the only one able to do this, but they advertise it for business use lol.
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No problem, glad it helped you (or made the decision worse lol), btw, I found this on HTCpro

"Capture white boards, documents, speeches and meetings with cameras and video recorders."

As you can see by the pictures, HTC isn't the only one able to do this, but they advertise it for business use lol.
Oh it helped! Yeah, it sounds like it can greatly help me! I'm just waiting for the phone to arrive; I can not wait to use it!
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Oh it helped! Yeah, it sounds like it can greatly help me! I'm just waiting for the phone to arrive; I can not wait to use it!
Cool, you'll love it, come visit us over on the HTC One board!
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Scanning through this thread, doesn't look like anyone mentioned the neat Zoe feature! It really is a cool feature that does bring your memories to life especially when it so conveniently puts together your shots for the day into a 30sec video clip w/music. I love it.
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Cool, you'll love it, come visit us over on the HTC One board!
I DO love it! Just wanna say that I'm glad I got the One. Just to sum it up, I was very satisfied and it left me with no disappointments. Thank you, and also everyone else, for your cooperations!

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Scanning through this thread, doesn't look like anyone mentioned the neat Zoe feature! It really is a cool feature that does bring your memories to life especially when it so conveniently puts together your shots for the day into a 30sec video clip w/music. I love it.
It really is neat! I've used it a couple of times, but I'm yet to add some effects.
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Go with the S4 for sure.

I had the Evo 3D and it met with a black screen of death. I foolishly did not use a SD card in that phone at the time, thinking I'd add one later... well all of my photos / videos got deleted upon factory reset to try to fix my HTC phone.

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for sure? i don't see anything that would sway it in the s4's favor "for sure".

if anything, with his indoor photo requirements (unless he's taking outdoor classes), it would be in favor of the One's low light camera capabilities.
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